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Aqib Talib and Anthony Collins Going to NFL; Tim Beck Going to Nebraska

Just four short days after the biggest win in the program's history, the Kansas Jayhawk football program has lost three rather large components of their 12-1, record-breaking season. While all three, two players (Talib and Collins) and one coach (Beck), had been rumored to leave for some time, there was still some possibility of a change-of-heart, a slight chance to keep them if for only one more year.

  • CB Aqib Talib had been a candidate to leave early for the NFL for the entire season, and would have likely forgone his final season of eligibility were the Jayhawks to make the Orange Bowl or not. However, the decision was likely finalized the moment he jumped in front of Tyrod Taylor's pass intended for Justin Harper and ran down the sideline of Dolphin Stadium 60 yards, untouched, into the endzone, high-stepping the last 5 yards. As excited as I was for the football team, the tiniest part of me knew that if he wasn't already gone, he was gone now. This was going to be his last ever game in a Kansas uniform. So, when the news came this morning from his brother that he was leaving Kansas early to head for the guaranteed paychecks of a 1st or 2nd round draft pick, I wasn't surprised. And I knew what was about to follow. I knew who was about to make an expectedly similar decision about his football future.
  • Anthony Collins, a RS Junior just like Aqib, had come in under the radar to everyone besides Jayhawk fans. While not necessarily NFL-ready, certainly not as much as Aqib Talib, they had said all along that they were making the decision together, deciding to come back to Lawrence or depart for the NFL becoming a joint-decision. So, as soon as Aqib's news came out, Anthony Collins' subsequent announcement certainly was no shock. I think that, despite his awesome game against potential first-day-pick Virginia Tech DE Chris Ellis, he could have really used another year at Kansas. After all, he only played one year of organized football in high school before coming to Kansas, and another year of football knowledge could have shortened NFL bench time from a couple of years to none or one. More on it later though, in my Goodbye post. I will do one for all three of the departed Jayhawks sometime this week.
  • However, the most crushing news of the day was Tim Beck's departure to Nebraska to coach with fellow Youngstownian Bo Pelini. While also expected, I was hoping for some last minute change-of-heart, enabling one of our best Texas recruiters, someone who was the lead in numerous key recruits (including potential incoming RB Cyrus Gray), to stay with the Jayhawks. However, it wasn't to be, and he is now going to be the runningbacks coach up in Lincoln. He is also the passing game coordinator, and is one of the two coaches who does those cutsie-pie audibles from the sideline. His replacement will be the most important development of the offseason, we need someone who can do at least most of what Beck filled. We need someone with plenty of Texas connections, most likely we will snag another Texas head coach with the same connections. Texas is the most important area of recruiting for us, and we need to find someone who can find talent and can get said talent to come to Lawrence. Everything else pales in comparison to the recruiting need, but it would be nice to have someone who has run a spread offense before and can audible in plays like he did.
Again, I will do a "Goodbye to..." for all three, most likely some time this week.

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Goodbye, and Good Luck
With the amazing season these two helped give us, it would selfish to ask for anything more. Here's to future health and success for both.

While losing Beck could potentially hurt recruiting, you gotta believe that an early draft pick or two could help it out a lot more. Players want to go somewhere that will help them become NFL players.

If I was, say, a 3 or 4 star CB recruit, I would see that two former Jayhawks at my position are now on NFL teams, with a possible third poised for a breakout in the next couple of years (Harris), and that would have to influence my decision.

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 7, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

agreed completely.
while it hurts to lose talib and collins, especially AC, the long-term benefits might be greater because they will both go in the first two rounds.

sending kids to the NFL after their junior season that get drafted at the top of the draft always goes over well with the HS kids, and it might be better that they left than if they stayed.

by rockchalk on Jan 8, 2008 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

"Championship" game thoughts
After watching the first half, I feel comfortable in saying that we could beat Ohio State on a neutral field. Too bad we couldn't do as well as they did against that powerhouse "Bye" after Misery and WFVU choked.

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 7, 2008 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

reminds me of the JoPo article...
did you read that by chance?

he basically says the same thing you do, both Kansas and tOSU played the always tough matchup of 'Idle' on December 1st, but tOSU moved up to #1 (from #3) and we moved down to #8 (from #5).

oh well...

by rockchalk on Jan 8, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It is the sign of a good program,
having to worry about things like losing underclassmen to the NFL.  It is nice to have such problems now.

by James Quinn on Jan 7, 2008 11:27 PM CST reply actions  

#7
Screw the old boys club that is college football. I know, we still had a great season, it's just a number, yadda yadda yadda. Anyone that honestly thinks that Ohio State is better than us is either an idiot, or isn't paying attention.  

Its just not fair to this team to STILL be disrespecting them. There's a self-fulfilling prophecy at work here: Kansas isn't very good, so any team they beat must not be very good.

Every week, "they" said, "lets see them beat THIS team. Then we'll know how good they really are."  We keep doing this all season long, beat the #1 ranked team in the BCS computer rankings on a neutral field, and still can only move up one spot. Rediculous.

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 8, 2008 8:37 AM CST reply actions  

I think the BCS will have KU ranked higher
I think the final BCS rankings will be announced today.

But I guess it really doesn't matter too much at this point.  Teams are now ranked #1 and then "everyone else."

by James Quinn on Jan 8, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

i think...
that the final BCS rankings are the one announced pre-bowls.

i might be wrong, but i dont think there are BCS rankings announced after all is said-and-done.

the page on ESPN claims the one where tOSU is #1, LSU #2 is the 'Final'.

by rockchalk on Jan 8, 2008 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

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