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Happy Birthday, Allen Fieldhouse

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On March 1, 1955 Allen Fieldhouse was officially dedicated, and the best building on planet Earth was open for business. The first game was a stirring 10 point win over Kansas State, and it also set the official attendance record of 17,228, a record which stands to this day and probably will until the end of time because official capacity is only 16,300.

Since the Fieldhouse was opened, the Jayhawks have an overall winning percentage of .864 in the building, and Bill Self has a record of 144-7 in the building (and, as I noted on twitter, has won twice as many conference championships in a row as he has home losses in conference play).

ESPN the Magazine has called Allen Fieldhouse the loudest arena in the country, and in the last Border War, the crowd set a record for loudest decible recording at a college basketball game.

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Personally, the first time I saw Allen Fieldhouse was when I was a Junior in high school and was touring colleges. There were renovations going on at the time, and so I didn't even get to see the floor in the building, but it was still the most beautiful thing I had seen.

The thing that strikes me most about the Fieldhouse is that even though it is an old building, it still gives off the impression that it is brand new when you walk in. That they were able to renovate it to make it seem modern yet keep the historic feel inside the building is incredible. Speaking of renovations, if you're lucky enough to go to Allen Fieldhouse, a required stop is in the Booth Family Hall of Athletics, where you'll get to see tributes to not only KU's basketball history but history in all sports (my personal favorite is Clifton Cushman, North Dakota native and silver medalist in the 400m hurdles at the 1960 Olympics).

Watching a game at Allen Fieldhouse is a great experience for many reasons. First, the sight lines in the building are incredible. I have seen a game from the front row and I have seen a game from the upper deck (for lack of a better term) and in each spot I had a great view of all the action, and didn't feel like I was too far away. They certainly don't make arenas like that anymore.

But honestly the best reason to go to Allen Fieldhouse is for the traditions. Signing the alma mater before the game, waving the wheat, holding up the UDK insert during opponent introductions, throwing the newspaper confetti during KU's introductions, and of course the world famous rock chalk chant.

It's a building named after one of the best college basketball coaches ever, with a court named after the game's inventor, and one that manages to look forward while still honoring the past. Bill Self said that if a donor offered them $20 million with the request that it be put to a new arena he would turn it down, and it's impossible to blame him for that.

It's one of the few places where the building is the star of the show. On Saturday Allen Fieldhouse will host yet another Senior Day with yet another group who has won a Big 12 championship. During their Senior Day speeches I expect each Senior to thank the crowd and the atmosphere. It's all possible because of the building. Happy birthday, old gal. Here's to many more.

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My first game was in December 1985

Kansas faced George Washington – we went during winter break. The game was far from a sellout. My dad ordered tickets by phone and we picked them up at will call. Sat in the chair backs on the west side – can’t do that anymore.
Was a great team to see – Manning, Dreiling, Kellogg, Turgeon and Archie Marshall. Those guys went all the way to the Final Four and the days Allen Fieldhouse being half-full were gone after that.
The fieldhouse felt old back then – still was used as an indoor track and didn’t have the modern restrooms and concession stands we enjoy today. Been a couple years since I’ve seen a game but am happy with the recent renovations and hope it makes it many more decades.

by jayhawk1996 on Mar 1, 2012 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

I actually miss the indoor track...

It was a great piece of the history of the building. Kinda wish they could have incorporated it into the renovations (or at least kept it as part of the Hall of Fame).

What? A girl who likes sports...INCONCEIVABLE!

by ladyjay78 on Mar 1, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Anschutz opened with the new track in Fall of '84

so Allen wasn’t being used for the track team anymore. The bleachers had been brought down to floor level leaving only the outer 2 lanes for rec running. I think it was a couple years before they did the full reno to completely build out in place of the track.

As nice as the new HOF is, I rather miss the old hallways lined with the photos; sort of monastic. Definitely wouldn’t miss avoiding the I-beam columns on the inside of the turns. Padding or not, that was a bit intimidating.

by dagger108 on Mar 1, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

My top two games would have to be…

Scoonie Penn and Michael Redd coming to town.

Kareem Rush and Clarence Gilbert’s coming in with Missouri and getting smacked around. Gilbert had a good game as I recall, but we won so there’s that.

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by Owen on Mar 1, 2012 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

Top two games that I saw in person that is.

I thought K-State v KU last year was going to be in the mix, but then K-State went and sucked so it went from a top 5 matchup to just another Wildcat beatdown.

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by Owen on Mar 1, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

If I'm thinking about the same Missouri game,

and I think I am, that was a great game.

I remember it being a weird day. A Big Monday, overcast, unseasonably warm, and everything was just calm. The first half was very close, with KU leading by one at the break. Then the second half started and Kansas just blew the doors off. Outscored Missouri by 31 in the second.

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by Triston27 on Mar 1, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

yep...

best atmosphere I’ve been a part of in Allen Fieldhouse, place was shaking before tip.

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by Owen on Mar 1, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

That was a fantastic game.

I don’t remember which MU player it was but if I recall correctly, someone bricked a dunk off the front of the rim and fell flat on their butt. The crowd went nuts. I also saw two MU fans get escorted from the building before the game even got started. They were wearing yellow and black jumpsuits and ran right behind all the frat guys, above the tunnel, taunting them. I’m not sure if they were aware that security was escorting them out for their own protection.

by gerseph on Mar 1, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

My top game

was watching Pitino cry as KU smacked around his Kentucky Wildcats 150-95.

Just seemed like Downtown Terry Brown couldn’t miss a 3.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Mar 1, 2012 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

Kinda OT:

I was talking with a neighbor who lives up the street from me last night. I was wearing a Kansas t-shirt (footbal 2008 if you really want to know). He made a comment that his boss is a Jayhawk. Turns out his boss is David Booth. I found out that Naismith’s rules are currently at David’s home. I told him: “tell your boss to send them to Allen Fieldhouse as soon as possible – along with some more money!”.

He said he would. :-)

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Mar 1, 2012 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

– along with some more money!

that way we can finally build that hockey arena we’ve all been talking about! AMIRIGHT?!

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Mar 1, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Works for me!

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Mar 1, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

woo

I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter

by fetch9 on Mar 1, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

say what you will

but I’d much rather we make some much needed changes to Memorial Stadium

Use the forks

by PenHawk on Mar 1, 2012 2:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Awe, I remember running

the Kansas Relays on that track. But then again I’m ok with whatever they do over there so long as we get better.

by gerseph on Mar 1, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Starting with are winning percentage there?

Then I agree.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Mar 1, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

are = our

ah hell.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Mar 1, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

My first game was right after moving to KC from Switzerland

Around 2000. KU vs. Nebraska. My dad was like “hey KU has a good basketball team we need to go!” Kansas won by around ten or so. I remember just being like wow this is pretty cool.

Didn’t go again until I was a freshman. I think they played Vermont in the first game I watched as a student. Vermont was good back then, they had some huge white guy who was legit. I think we won by 7 or so. After that… it was a whoooooole lot of games.

Highlites from years in school:

2004-2005 – Beating OSU by a point my freshman year and killing Texas. Beating KSU to celebrate the 50 year anniversary of the building.

2005-2006 – Beating OU in an insane comeback (still my favorite). Beating Kentucky when Rush went off on Rondo.

2006-2007 – Killing Kansas State despite all the Huggins hype. Beating Texas and Durant. Destroying OSU to open conference play (back when they were still good).

2007-2008 – Beating KSU at home and avenging our loss from earlier in the year.

Lowpoints:

2004-2005 – Losing to Iowa State in OT.
2005-2006 – Losing to KState at home to Woolridge and his neckbrace.
2006-2007 – Oral Roberts. The A&M game was tough too since we were winning the whole time and lost on Law’s three.
2007-2008 – lol

by KU Grad 08 on Mar 1, 2012 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

explains a lot

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Mar 1, 2012 5:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

does that have to be a 'not nice' thing?

The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.

by labbadabba on Mar 2, 2012 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for posting, Fetch...

It’s a wonderful place that deserves all the praise it gets. I’m pleased to know we’re all a small portion of the reason why.

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 1, 2012 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Ah man the 1 on the end got cuz off!

::prepares to be made fun of relentlessly::

by KU Grad 08 on Mar 1, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually have a loss on my record (Texas last year)

so I should probably get less than that. I really thought I’d make it through my career undefeated too.

I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter

by fetch9 on Mar 1, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Consider yourself lucky

I have seen us lose at home 6 times I think…

I know some people who nearly made it through all 4 years with no home loses. If it hadn’t been for the Texas loss they would have done it.

by KU Grad 08 on Mar 1, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

My two favorite games I've attended at Allen Fieldhouse have been

This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIYkssHAYLQ
(Georgia Tech at Kansas in OT, New Year’s Day 2005)

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfA6Q-LFeAo
(Texas at Kansas, 2007 to clinch the Big XII Title)

Both games were emotionally draining, jet-engine loud, and great wins for KU. I only wish I could add the Missouri at AFH game from last week and I think that would be a trifecta.

by rockchalk1187 on Mar 1, 2012 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

I forget his name but

GT had an insanely good guard that year. I remember that game (I was at home) and he kept throwing up these crazy runners and hooks and they all just kept dropping. I was spent by the time KU pulled that one off.

by gerseph on Mar 1, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh man how'd I forget this one...

Oh wait I wasn’t there. Was home for xmas. Really bummed I missed it. Langford was a beast that game.

by KU Grad 08 on Mar 1, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Both were awesome games...

And are near the top of my list. I don’t think we ever led that GT game until overtime.

But probably not on the level of last week. I’m hesitant to automatically call it best ever, but it was special.

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 1, 2012 7:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

My favorite moment...

actually came during the Women’s NIT final in 2009.

I debated in college, which really limited by ability to attend games. We traveled across the country to debate most weekends during the basketball season. I worship the Fieldhouse and adore the men’s basketball team, but, oddly enough, my best moments with one never really involved the other.

The first time I entered the Phog was in October 1997 for an exhibition game between the Chicago Bulls and Seattle SuperSonics. (How’s this for a picture of greatness?) My family was able to make it to a few KU games that were especially meaningful to us—we lived in Manhattan and my parents graduated from Fort Hays State. But my time on KU’s campus as a student from 2004 to 2009 was unfortunately bereft of any meaningful moments with the basketball team in the Fieldhouse. Rather, my fondest memory was the product of the greatest luck: a friend’s sister got left over comp tickets to the 2008 Final Four from her law firm, my friend’s first choice couldn’t go, and I was next in line.

In the spring of 2009, the KU women’s basketball team hosted the WNIT finals. My debate partner and I had just won KU Debate’s fifth national title. You can imagine our excitement when we were invited to be honored at the game—college debate is not often done to much fanfare. During the first timeout, we were introduced at mid-court with Chancellor Bob, and the sellout crowd gave us a standing ovation. I couldn’t wipe the stupid grin from my face for weeks.

While I wish I went to more games as a student, I think that my experiences demonstrate the true beauty and power of the Phog. From the beginning, it has never been about winning basketball games—that’s just a byproduct. Allen Fieldhouse embodies the Jayhawk spirit: fierce loyalty, incredible passion, and an awesome appreciation of tradition. May both live on forever.

by CaliforniaJayhawk on Mar 1, 2012 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

I was at the exhibition when the Bulls played as well.

Holy crap that was awesome, I had somehow forgotten about it. I was only a kid but my dad took me and my brother and it was amazing.

by rockchalk1187 on Mar 1, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

was at that sonics, bulls game as well

I was actually a Sonics fan, Gary Payton was my duuuuude!

by I need more Esteban on Mar 1, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

For my first KU game

I was 12 but it was a blast. I got to see the ‘93-’94 team play at the high-school I would later attend. (Shawnee Mission South) They played a little scrimmage game there as part of a fundraiser. That was beyond incredible. $5 ticket if I remember correctly, to watch Greg Ostertag, Scot Pollard, Jacque Vaughn, Steve Woodberry, Greg Gurley (his cousin went to the high-school, which is why they played.), T.J. Whatley, and B. J. Williams. It kills me that I don’t have pictures of that. My first game at Allen Fieldhouse was a preseason game in 1999 but I was still blown away by the atmosphere.

I have also been fortunate enough to introduce three people to the old place for the very first time. It’s so much fun to sit back and watch their reactions to it all. It also make you realize just how special the place really is.

The one and only loss I have seen there was in Feb. 2001 to a ranked Iowa State team featuring Jamaal Tinsley. We lost 77-79 when Luke Axtell’s three missed from the right corner in the final seconds. It was funny too, those Iowa State fans were so cocky back then. I heard all manner of non-sense about how our reign was over and they would dominate the Big 12 from now on. But the best part was seeing them bounced in the first round of the tournament that year as a 2 seed to 15th seeded Hampton. I don’t usually delight in other’s missery (except mU) but I couldn’t help myself.

by gerseph on Mar 1, 2012 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

I was at that game at South

I was sitting on the baseline. The players were right there and they were so huge.

Gurley is a South alumnus. I always figured that’s why they played it there.

by KSinDC on Mar 1, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe that was it

but I remember hearing something about his cousin. Then again I was like 12 so I don’t really know. I actually am not even sure exactly when that game was. But I remember Ostertag Vaughn and Gurley very clearly. Ostertag got tired running and just sat under his basket for a while too. I graduated South in 2000 and went to KU in 2000-2001.

by gerseph on Mar 1, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Not only was Gurley A South alumnus

but didn’t he drain a buzzer beater 3 pointer to win State?

Or something like that?

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Mar 2, 2012 7:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah and beat Steve Woodberry's team out of Wichita.

That was an amazing game. The type of game that makes it a shame that KSHSAA took 6A out of Emporia.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Mar 2, 2012 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll preface this by saying I haven't attended hundreds of games or anything...

But I’ve never seen the Jayhawks lose in the Phog. In fact, I’d never witnessed a KU loss until the Davidson game at the Sprint Center this year.

The most exciting game I’ve seen there was the GT New Year’s game. I regret not going to more games there as a student, but it seemed like I was always working during our biggest games.

Use the forks

by PenHawk on Mar 1, 2012 6:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think I've been there for a couple losses

But I can only remember one clearly: to Pepperdine some time in the mid 90s. Doug Christie hung at least 40 points on us, and we could do nothing to stop him. If I remember right, we forced overtime, but I never felt like we were going to win.

by KSinDC on Mar 1, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I had heard about the 127.3 db

being a record but I’m curious if this needs any sort of validation. For example, if you want in the Guinness Book you typically need some sort of official to witness the event. Obviously there were plenty of witnesses but whose equipment registered the number and who saw the actual reading? I really want this to be the record but I want it to be backed properly too.

by gerseph on Mar 1, 2012 7:39 PM CST reply actions  

I said before, but I'd be very surprised if we got to 127dB

127dB is about 5 times as loud as 120db, and about 50 times as loud as 110dB, which is already pretty loud. It takes ten times as much energy to move the meter from 120 to 121 dB as it does to move it from 110 to 111 dB.

I can definitely believe that we set a new record, but I can not believe we were more than twice as loud as the previous record holder (I’d read Cameron was the record-holder at 124).

by KSinDC on Mar 1, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

The only thing I can imagine

that makes this remotely possible is that during the pregame video it’s mostly the students screaming. When Robinson blocked that shot, the other 3 quarters of the Fieldhouse were probably screaming too. (I wasn’t at the game) With 4 times as many people contributing I can see how there would be a considerable spike in volume. But like you said, I’m just not sure how much. I hope some further documentation comes foreword to validate our impressive fan support.

by gerseph on Mar 1, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, the combination of loud going louder

The place was screaming since it was the final possession and we were on D… then obviously the block and that escalated what was already noise.

It wasn’t a hushed crowd suddenly reacting to a big play, it was a crowd going bonkers that went over the top.

#Ireallyhopethenumberisaccurate

by KU Grad 08 on Mar 1, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it might have been a spike in decibel level

when everyone yelled at the same time. Doesn’t have to be sustained and everyone being on cue can be much better than everyone trying to sustain like at the beginning of the game before tip off.

by rockchalk1187 on Mar 2, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

On cue meaning

when Robinson had his block and everyone let out a collective “fuck yeah” type of yell.

by rockchalk1187 on Mar 2, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

During the pregame video, the audio is cranked up pretty loud

That’s providing a lot of the sound energy. On Robinson’s play, there’s only people providing the sound energy.

I don’t know what the theoretical maximum is for decibel level produced by human voices, but I’d guess 127 is close to or past it.

by KSinDC on Mar 2, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm dubious too...

Mostly because I haven’t actually seen it verified. It was extremely loud and like you, it wouldn’t surprise me if we set the record. But it was pretty damn loud in there earlier and the scoreboard was showing in the 120-121 range. That’s a hell of a jump.

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 2, 2012 7:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Lifelong Jayhawk fan

But my first game in the Fieldhouse was my super-senior year at KU. This was back in 2009 when Mizzou beat us in Columbia on that lucky-as-hell shot that bounced high off the rim and magically dropped through, giving them a two-point win that Tigers fans took every opportunity to point out. As luck would have it, we played at their place first and at Allen second. I knew we were way better than them and I made it my mission to get tickets to the Mizzou game at Allen. Turns out I was right. Sherron tore them apart and we ended up smoking them by 25. Was an absolute blast.

by Scott_Pilgrim on Mar 2, 2012 3:14 AM CST reply actions  

Hard to choose favorite games because they all were enjoyable.

1. Senior night my freshman year when Raef Lafrentz gave his speech after beating K-State.

2. “Pants on backwards” game was great too because how often do you see a grown man put his shorts on the wrong way?

3. It was an early year game, but I will never forget seeing the Christian Moody fake pass to Giddens for 3 shot during the TCU game in 2004. I was sitting in the section straight across from the KU bench so I was in perfect position to see the entire sequence go down. It was awesome!

What? A girl who likes sports...INCONCEIVABLE!

by ladyjay78 on Mar 2, 2012 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

I remember that no look pass

Couldn’t believe it came from Moody. I also was terrified Giddens was going to miss despite being wide open… mostly because he kind of did that a lot that season.

by KU Grad 08 on Mar 2, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

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