Kansas Jayhawk News and Notes 2.9.12
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Jeff Withey bears down | KUsports.com
“Coach definitely got in my head. He told me I can’t go games where I don’t score. I have to be part of this team and help out,” - Jeff Withey
Coach Self's response is the best
Bill Self: KU rebounds nicely from loss to MU | KUsports.com
“I didn’t think our energy level was very good today (at shootaround). I didn’t think it was great yesterday. I thought we might pout up and feel sorry for ourselves. “We showed some toughness."
Defense polarizes programs | KUsports.com
Kansas is a boot-camp basketball program, Baylor a summer-camp team, replete with a no-cussing policy implemented by coach Scott Drew, a magnificent recruiter and likable face for the once-disgraced program.
Rapid Reaction: Kansas 68, Baylor 54 - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN
The Jayhawks have had a stranglehold on the Big 12 for most of the past decade. It doesn't appear as if they are ready to loosen their grip. The win over the Bears put Kansas back into a tie for first with Missouri. The victory also means that KU's chances at grabbing a No. 2 seed in the NCAA tournament are still alive.
Withey plays big as KU schools Baylor | CJOnline.com
More Withey props
Jayhawks ice Jones in win | CJOnline.com
Kansas has now done this twice. He shrinks in the big game. I wouldn't touch him if I was an NBA guy, but then again they get caught up in potential.
Kansas pounds Baylor, moves into tie with MU - KansasCity.com
Big win for the league race but a long way to go.
Women's Basketball
KU women crush Texas, 85-61 | KUsports.com
Big win for the women at home.
Kansas Football
Big 12 talents headed for the NFL combine - Big 12 Blog - ESPN
One more than K-State!!! HA! Ok just kidding they were 10-2 and return almost everyone.
College Basketball
With Duke looming, North Carolina can show it’s still elite | Beyond the Arc
I thought this was odd from yesterday. I mean did we really write off UNC to the point where they weren't elite just because they haven't been knocking it out of the park all year? Expectations are a bitch.
Kentucky can be ‘impossible’ to beat — just ask Florida | Beyond the Arc
Not going to lie, I wouldn't mind playing these guys again in the least. You might lose, but who the hell is going to give you a chance anyway so you're playing with nothing to lose. That's always a fun spot to be in and I wouldn't mind seeing Robinson and Tyshawn have another go just to see.
All hope not lost for UConn on road to NCAA tournament - Andy Glockner - SI.com
Another bubble watch. Pac 12 is in trouble.
Tom Brady and Gisele v Brandon Jacobs
New York Giants' Brandon Jacobs says Gisele Bundchen needs to shut up - ESPN New York
Tom Brady still wins.
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That UNC Duke
Game reminded all too much of the KU MU game. UNC had a huge lead ~10 points with over a minute to go and lost. Seth Curry’s 4 step travel before a crucial 3 point shot and no call.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
Yep...
Classic case of live-by-the-3-die-by-the-3. Really saved Duke’s bacon on that one. I couldn’t help but see the same comparison as I was watching it unfold. Kept saying, ‘well, they won’t hit the next one…‘. Not a fan of UNC and I hate Duke but from an outside perspective, it was impressive. I missed the travel call (or rather, no-call) but had to admire how clutch their shooting was. Rivers put that icy dagger right through UNC’s heart on that last shot.
Took a hot shooting night to put it away but I don’t think Duke will consistently scrape out a win without using more inside presence. Did you see the stat they flashed down the stretch where UNC had 42 points in the paint to Duke’s 12? Unbelievable. Whatever North Carolina did (outside of 3-point defense), that’s what you do to beat Duke. They just got hot when it mattered most.
by Scott_Pilgrim on Feb 9, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
Big big win for KU last night
Feeling a lot better about the chances of another outright title. Not as many KU fans as in the past at Waco, and the fans were really into it for the first 15 to 18 minutes. This was my fifth or sixth trip to Ferrell Center and had never seen it A) sold out (although it was never 100 percent full) and B) that loud. My ears were ringing when Self called that first timeout down 7-0.
What can you say about Withey? He was huge and Baylor didn’t have a way to stop him. As usual, Baylor’s guards were kind of in disarray and Perry Jones was a mystery.
But I may have solved a bit of the Jones puzzle. He’s reminding me of Chenowith. Too timid to play inside on either end of the floor and doesn’t have ability to step back and hit a hook shot or jumper on offense. Needs another year at Baylor but will probably still be a lottery pick on potential, but he’s so Cheno right now.
More than anything, I liked the fact that KU was down several times in the first half and bounced back, then closed out the half strong and put the hammer down in the second half. Great run there for last few minutes of first and first 8 or so of second.
So it looks like Waco isn’t the home away from home it used to be for KU, but that’s OK, we’ll just take over TCU’s place starting next year. Rock Chalk!
Self's post-game quote on Baylor's early defense:
“They did a better job with that. I don’t know if it was great adjustments. It was guys getting in gaps and playing.”
Suppose giving all the credit to BU’s players is Self saying something about Drew, or am I reading too much into this?
Pay heed...
My take is that you are reading too much into it
Baylor did a good job on D for the first about 18 minutes. Limited T rob to virtually nothing.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
Eh, I don't know...
The list of coaches who like Scott Drew is pretty short, but Bill isn’t even in the vicinity of that list. Woldn’t surprise me if it were a subtle jab.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 9, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
So did Bill Self pull a Herb Brooks last night?
It sure did seem that around the 4 minute mark in the 2nd half his entire team was gassed.
T2 had rubber arms and couldn’t hold onto the ball, EJ kept looking at the bench gesturing for a timeout, and Throbinson was pulling on his shorts during an offensive possession. On top of all that, Baylor was starting a mini run.
We had 3 timeouts to give and we had a comfy lead, I think 99% of coaches would have called a timeout or at least get some subs out there. Nope bench players kept their warm-ups on.
I just wonder if HCBS was wanting to see how deeply his starters were willing to dig…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Yeah, I didn't really follow what the thinking was there
The guys were so obviously tired that I was getting really worried about a misstep and an injury. Did Self address this in the post-game?
I just assumed
it was as labba said in that last sentence. He wanted to use this opportunity to force a little mental toughness on his guys. The bench wouldn’t have gotten anything from playing a minute or two, but the starters can watch film and see that they softened. Everything’s a teaching opportunity to Self.
Pay heed...
Yep especially after failing to close out the the mu game with a good lead.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
This was my fear as well
T2 was so tired he was no longer fully in control of his body, the perfect time to roll an ankle.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
As long we aren't put in the same bracket as Kentucky, then I agree.
Not going to lie, I wouldn’t mind playing these guys again in the least.
I would love to play them in the Final Four.
I’d love to play Duke too. ’tucky is far and away the best team in college basketball right now, and it would feel really good to beat them.
We're just plain better than Duke...
Kentucky would be fun, but it would take us playing awfully well.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 9, 2012 8:47 AM CST up reply actions
what are the chances of UK pulling a 2010 and 2011 Kansas in the tournament this year?
I dont think the overall best team hasnt won it since 2009 UNC. a team would have to come out hot from 3 to really have a chance. Davis is just too much of a presence underneath
a team would have to come out hot from 3 to really have a chance
Is this generally how the top seeds get knocked out by mid-majors? Or is that just KU?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
If you look at the Indiana team that beat them
It’s clear that there’s a lot of teams that can beat Kentucky under the right circumstances.
Now THAT was a buzzer beater
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Yes
And the fewer losses Kentucky has, the more difficulty it will have dealing with adversity. See 2010 and 2011 Kansas.
they look so good
but I still don’t know about a Freshman PG, and a group of Freshmen, winning a title.
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i dont think so
but NCAA tournament games aren’t really hostile environments either.
I’ll say this though: they beat us by 10 on a neutral floor. I’d say we’re close to 10 points better than we were then.
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really?
i dont know if i would. it’s certainly possible though
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if the november kansas team played the february kansas team
the february team would probably win by more than 10 points in my opinion. I really havent watched enough UK ball to make a judgement on that scenerio with them but I’d like to think KU has improved much more over the season than UK has
I'll see them play at Vanderbilt on Saturday
People in the SEC act like Memorial is a difficult place to play. I don’t see it, but whatever. It is a cool building, and Vanderbilt can be dangerous when the stars are aligned.
Yup...
I watch them and think they’ll win the title. And then I’ll remember that Marquis Teague is their PG, and I feel a little bit better…
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 9, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Love this one too:
"I didn’t see any reason to let him catch the ball," Johnson said. "He’s not a threat if he can’t catch the ball. So I planned on not letting him be a threat."
It’s so nice having a coach that teaches defense and players that buy into it.
Pay heed...
Who's he talking about defending there?
The one really sour note from last night’s game was that it seemed like Pierre Jackson could drive at will against our defense. Both the primary and the help defense needs to tighten up there.
He was blanketed
I can only think of a couple times he even touched the ball, and one of those was a curl off of a staggered screen. If Baylor is having to work that hard to get him the ball, he’s probably not going to get many touches.
Well done EJ.
That right there...
can make EJ worth it. If he can do that against the top scoring guard for the opponent. Then I’ll live with the lower offensive output.
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Where do we see EJ next year?
He’s by far our most exp guard and while not a true point guard will HCBS trust EJ to run the point than Tharpe?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I think it has to be him unless Tharpe makes some pretty drastic improvements. I don’t think that’s out of the question, it’s happened before with Self so we’ll see.
I do like that we have Releford, Johnson and Withey returning. That’s a nice corps that covers a few basis and the makings of a good defensive team as well. We’ll be young, but those three will be handed the team so to speak.
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Who names their kid Nadir anyway?
I mean, I don’t mean to disparage or anything but dictionaries were made for a reason…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
You choose your children's names out of the dictionary?
Aardvark Dabba
Queen Anne’s Lace Dabba
Bolt Dabba
Typhoon Dabba
(I kinda like the last one)
LoL
No, I meant that you should look up the meaning of a word before you use that word to name your kid.
And FWIW, labbadabba was a randomly uttered exhaseperation when I was trying to find a user name when setting up my hotmail account. I’ve been labbadabba@hotmail since ’96
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Oh
Well, to be fair, his name is Naadir, not Nadir.
I like the labbadabba name. You should name one of your kids Labbadabba.
Ah, that's true
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
It's a muslim name, and I imagine in other languages
Brad, Bill, Ben, and Barry sound like weird words too.
Apparently it means “Dear, Rare, Precious”.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Feb 9, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Well okay, you got me.
I appologize to Naadir and his progenitors
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
typhoon is great
My top choices for kids names are as follows:
Go
Seven
Dumbledore
Cosmo
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Basketball has been full of great names
God Shamgod
Skeeter Henry
Smokey McCovery
Those are a few of my favorites.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
I really need to proof read
it’s amazing you guys can figure out what I’m trying to say on a day to day basis…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
My wife and I had this exact conversation last night
I kind of don’t expect Tharpe to still be here, so I think the PG position goes to EJ by default. I’m looking forward to him defending other teams’ PGs, but I don’t have great confidence in his ball-handling skills or his decision making on passes. And it’s not like he can score like Tyshawn. Do any of the guys coming in having any PG skills?
Why don't you expect Tharpe to still be here?
He’ll be fine. Russell Robinson had a rough freshman year too and he came around. Tharpe has basketball skills – he just doesn’t have an ounce of confidence right now.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 9, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
he reminds me a lot of EJ his freshman year
tons of potential but gets easily flustered in games. He knows he will be playing in the future just needs to work out the kinks. I would be very suprised if he transfers
I don't expect him to be here because I think he wants to play
He reminds me of Jeremy Case (by the way, I was watching the Murray State – SE Mo St game on ESPNU last week and Jeremy Case was very surprised to see Jeremy Case in the handshake line for SEMo St after the game). I think he wants to play, but with the guys coming in the year behind him, I don’t see when he’s ever going to get that opportunity.
I don’t think Self dislikes him, but I think it’s clear Self doesn’t trust him. It’s tough for a PG to earn that trust, especially when he’s as turnover-prone as Tharpe has been.
the thing about it
is he’s been given the chance to play but he has been very much over matched. I’m not saying that he won’t transfer but it would be extremely immature for him to not recognize his game isn’t at a high enough level yet. He was given many chances by Self but turning the ball over immediately when he touches it and playing bad defense are all right there on film.
Now, if he wants to go to a much lower level school to play against inferior competition, he could do so. (Although I don’t think he’d play right away at any BCS program) But he should definitely realize that he could get much much better playing here than anywhere else in the country.
All that being said, he’s an 18-19 year old kid so who knows if he’ll make the mature decision.
by I need more Esteban on Feb 9, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's the fact that his game isn't at a high enough level that makes me think he'll transfer
I think he’s been shocked by the speed of the game at this level, and might find the game more to his liking at a mid-major level.
Nothing against him. He seems like a good kid. I’m just not sure how much he can improve on things like not getting his pocket picked by faster defenders.
Not that Tom Brady actually has this choice
But, given a choice between a super hot (maybe even cool) wife that my friends hate, and a somewhat less hot/cool wife that my friends love, I’d take the latter. It’s got to suck to be stuck in the middle of this.
Plus, she's looking to be in serious need of a double cheeseburger
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Speaking of what a double cheeseburger does to looks
Did everyone see the video about generating before and after weight loss pics five hours apart?
That's true
But my impression is that they’re his friends too.
fascinating
"I went to his first meeting with the team and he (HCCW) was dog cussing the players and was very arrogant…I didn’t want to be a part of that."
- Keeston Terry
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
funny how the...
only people complaining about him are the ones that have been dismissed and they are having to do so by either putting out amateur press releases via twitter or through the examiner.
Yet you have a guy who was the backup QB at Notre Dame and received a standing O at the players banquet from his teammates and parents this past December speaking to Weis and his up front and honest approach. He’s said more than once that it might not always be what you want to hear, but it’s what you need to hear and as a player it’s what he appreciates because it’s intended to help him improve.
Then you have players taking to twitter applauding the new structure and approach in the S&C program. Brandon Bourbon commenting to the effect of …We could have actually done something if we had this S&C staff the last two years
I’m thinking some people couldn’t take honesty or perhaps structure.
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different strokes, methinks
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
He already had one foot out the door when Weis arrived
Sounds like he was leaving no matter who the coach was
remember
a lot of Gill’s recruits came here because he was a church going gentleman who never used foul language. I can see some of those being turned off by most “normal” college coaches.
I always drink the Kool-Aid
Going for #8 in a row!
by bt01 on Feb 9, 2012 11:17 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
yes but if you recall...
Terry committed to Mangino. His excuse is BS.
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Apparently Duke won with something called a "buzzer beater".
I guess it’s the first one in college basketball history? The press are going a little nutso about it.
Which is why
I almost never volountarily go to the national sports websites any longer. I have my SB Nation blogs and I can read exactly what I want without dealing with all the hyped/biased/money-driven bullshiz.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Agree except for the biased thing...
obviously all of the individual SB nation sites are biased towards their own team to some degree. That’s what makes it great. I love reading on these sites in a home-court kind of atmosphere. Give me some lightly shaded crimson and blue glasses for my reading pleasure any day.
I meant a prevailing national bias towards teams that I could give a flip about
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
It was a pretty great finish
Not just the buzzer beater, but the whole improbably comeback in a game where UNC clearly looked like the dominant team. Even if it had been Michigan-Michigan State, I think you’d be hearing a lot about it this morning.
Of course, it helped that it was a nationally televised highly hyped game with a great Syracuse-Gtown game leading into it. I’m sure the ratings were solid.
All that's true, but it's funny seeing the media crank it up into MAGICAL MOMENT
level of hyperbole, usually reserved for cinderella teams and championship games.
Eh. It deserves the hype
Duke beating UNC at the KansanDome on a three, having come from pretty far behind is a pretty big story
love this!
KansanDome
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
no sympathy from me, that's for sure
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I'm no UNC fan and I hate Duke
but that whole last 3 minutes was like a perfect storm against UNC. I thought they had it wrapped up, just cover the three…. Duke had minimal inside presence all night (they flashed a stat of points in the paint just before the comeback: UNC: 42, Duke: 12). I kept thinking ‘oh Duke might make this one, but surely not the next…’ And every single three that had to go in dropped. And the single time it didn’t, the ball catches that impossible break off Zeller’s hand to drop through the hoop cutting UNC’s lead to 1. People have been talking about Rivers’ buzzer beater, which was monumental, but I think that enormous fluke was the game decider.
by Scott_Pilgrim on Feb 9, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'll admit to being incredibly wrong about PJIII
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Just noticed that Markieff was selected for the rookie/sophomore game.
First KU player since Kirk to play in it?
I like that they changed formats this year
And instead of having rookies play sophomores, they’ll have Chuck and Shaq draft teams to play each other. Still won’t watch, but it’s a better format.
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That's what they did in the NHL All-Star game this year
It was a little weird but it made for some really bad-ass line combos. Also it really exposed the fact that Daniel Alfredsson would make a terrible GM…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
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