Kansas Jayhawks at Missouri Tigers Open Game Thread
by Owen on Feb 4, 2012 12:00 PM CST
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Welcome to Rock Chalk Talk and your open game thread for the Kansas Jayhawks vs the Missouri Tigers. This is one of the big ones. The final trip to Columbia to take on the Tigers as they head off to the SEC. This game also holds some significance because of the league race. The good news is that Kansas can leave with no worse than a share of the league lead. The bad news is that I suspect this will be a tough one. If Kansas can come away with a win, it's huge.
Kicking off the thread early today so feel free to use it all day long to talk about the matchup or to kick around some discussion on other games set for the day. Then at 8pm CST, we've got our game to keep things going.
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Rock Chalk and Beak em Hawks!
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Let me start by saying
F**k Misery.
Too harsh?
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
by Rivethead on Feb 4, 2012 12:15 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
nah...
I’m sure they would return the sentiment. We all know where we stand with eachother and I’d say it’s perfectly ok to express it on a day like today.
Questions, Comments? email me at denverjhawk@hotmail.com
Blatantly stolen...
…from a friend of mine originally met via KUSports…
“No matter what happens tonight, the end of the story is that I’ll always be a Jayhawk fan.
I’ll always be on the side of good, where the colors and traditions are meaningful and full of glory.
I’ll always be on the side with the long-winning tradition.
KU will always be the strong overall winner over Missouri (with 64% of the victories) and nothing can ever change that.
KU fans will look forward to winning seasons every year as well as more titles and real championships.
Whether Kansas loses or wins this one game, we will carry on to the next because there are bigger games to worry about down the line instead of using the results of this one game to define us like Missouri sadly does, even though we’ll get the last word at Allen.
So Rock Chalk forever, Jayhawks!!! GO KU!!!"
the wait is killing me
8:00pm? That is too cruel.
OSU & the hobbit tie it up with Baylor.
Looked like OSU was going to be annihilated in the first half, but Baylor has let them back in the game.
Didn't watch the first half,
But this has been one ugly second half. Feels like I’m watching Big 10 basketball at times.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Ugly is a good description.
Baylor looked like they had the game again, then they fumble around and let the hobbit hit a 3 to put them down.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Boom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3NSTbi4OQ&feature=player_embedded
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 4, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Listen to the last 4 minutes of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x_qVdIs0RQ&feature=player_embedded
Shit happens when you win championships
Bitch
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 4, 2012 2:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Wait... is that Julian Wright?
I can’t remember him dunking without screwing it up somehow.
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
his crotch screwed up Kalen Grime's face pretty bad
I'm tell ya like the bath tub told the toilet stool, " I get as much ass as you but I don't have to take all that shit!"
-Dolemite
OSU with a huge three to take the lead by 1 with 1:41 to go.
Come on Pokes.
Takes a bad 3 now.
Amazing that OSU still has a chance, but they’re in trouble now.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Scott Drew, everybody!
I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter
by fetch9 on Feb 4, 2012 2:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh man. Gotta get that rebound.
Would have been a tough finish without a timeout anyway I suppose.
Get em tonight guys.
Pulling for a fellow Big 12 school from up here in Ames. Pulling for you guys to win the conference.
by CrossCyed on Feb 4, 2012 3:04 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
2 hours and 40 minutes....
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
Muck fizzou
Especially the antlers the most obnoxious sacks of human waste imaginable. The SEC can have that lot of low class aholes.
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 5:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
They'll fit right in
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
Not gonna lie
I’m gonna miss playing these guys. Nothing better than listening to the fans saying how they’re gonna win, only to destroy them.
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
My wife and I
are expecting our first child in June. He or she can grow up to do anything in life that they want to do, except go to Mizzou.
I can't wait any longer!!!!
This is torture. I’ve got plenty of brew waiting to see if I’ll be a happy drunk or a crying giants fan drunk.
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 6:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm disappointed.
Rock M nation has double our posts. For BBALL! Sad day.
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 7:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'll help your post count...
…SUCK IT BIRDS!
But really I hope for a great game and no injuries on both sides. No matter how this game or the next turns out I’ll miss hating all of you. Good luck the rest of the way all you Kansas fans.
M-I-Z!
No hate...
…coming back? I had hoped for something…even if it was just a, “right back at ya douche.” Have a good game beakers.
No I just wasn't very insulted by your comment.
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 8:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fake Joe Dooley is on fire.
from his twitter feed:
You fought to keep slaves / Kansas has granted your wish / Because we own you
then
Over the past week, Missouri fans have been asking "K Who?" and "Who U?" We’ve actually met before, but allow me to re-introduce ourselves.
We are the Kansas Jayhawks, 5-time national champion, 54-time conference champion, and undisputed Swag Heavyweight Champion.
Some people call us the greatest program in history. Others call us the pride of college basketball. We just want to be called champions.
But you can call us your permanent source of misery. You’ve been beaten by us more than any other team.
In fifteen years, we have won the Big XII eleven times, which is 3 more times than you’ve finished with a winning record in the conference.
I always drink the Kool-Aid
Going for #8 in a row!
That last line is awesome.
Not one I’ve heard before.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
The last line is now my facebook status
edited for context.
I always drink the Kool-Aid
Going for #8 in a row!
Prediction for tonight
Missouri fans will complain about the refs.
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 7:36 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
What's the over under????
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 7:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I declare this
the greatest jinx of all-time.
Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.
by Mac6uffin on Feb 4, 2012 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Quintrell Thomas sighting!
Tough game for Vegas
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 7:40 PM CST reply actions
Nice of Reese to decide our future schedule for us
Way to make no effort to understand the situation, “experts”
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 7:47 PM CST reply actions
Gotta grab those long rebounds tonight
If we don’t, they’ll be able to counter our advantage down low
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 7:55 PM CST reply actions
Holy Crap that hair!
Check out that lady behind Dan Schulman. Bigger hair than Snookie
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 8:00 PM CST reply actions
That was a cheap call there.
Gotta keep your hands off the hips there.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
Boy that crowd is gonna kill these refs before the night is over, I think.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
Nice pass out of the double team
leads to a wide open 3
I always drink the Kool-Aid
Going for #8 in a row!
What happened to pound it inside?
we had a 7 footer on a 6’6" guard and never even got him a touch
Yeah I don't know what we're doing
I mean, if Ty wasn’t hitting we would be screaming about the gameplan right now. I’m sure Self is reminding them of that during this timeout.
by 2.1 seconds left on Feb 4, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Lulz
Misery’s world famous trophy case
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 8:15 PM CST reply actions
I went all weak thinking this game was in Lawrence today
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
OK
Teahan needs to go back to bench. This game is to fast for him
I always drink the Kool-Aid
Going for #8 in a row!
Not quite sure why Travis got pulled.
He only has 1 foul and he’s made a 3.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
I love the color comentary
“The players are pair off, sluggin away”
by MichiganJayHawk on Feb 4, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Unfortunately it was deserved by Travis there.
He had room to go around English and just barged into him.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Good job by Wesley
picking up T2’s miss.
These are some pretty weak sauce refs.
If they call that they should have called the one on T-Rob’s shot
Yes, if they call it tight
on both teams that’s fine, but that’s not been the case so far.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Wesley... We are gonna need 110% out of you today
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
T-Rob is definitely overamped.
Airballed a 5 foot shot.
Our sloppiness on offense
is hurting us more.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
If we can keep it even til the half
i do like our chances. NCHCBS can get a chance to settle guys down and make a few adjustments.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
It seems like we have zero points in the paint so far
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
T-Rob had 1 layup,
but other than that, it’s been pretty minimal.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
Boom goes the dynamite
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
Silly foul by Wesley,
but he’s had a few contributions before that at least.
Taylor has gone from one of my 2 least favorite Jayhawks ever...
To one of my top 10 favorites.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
He's No Drew2
Thank God.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Julian Wright will be my all time least favorite Jayhawk...
and it was almost purely from watching him try and take the ball coast to coast too many times.
Phenomenally talented player, but he could have been so much better.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
He Kept That
Team in odd configurations. I was glad he moved on.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Fun to watch,
but difficult to tell sometimes how much he was helping us.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
I can see that.
I remember yelling at the TV many times while he was at KU. Not a pleasant experience.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
He Does Something
Good occasionally.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Helluva pass by teahan!
He needed to do something positive.
Must Be Jelly
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Was that Young on the defense?
Turned away and didn’t quite catch it.
and another good knock away by Young
too bad Moore picked it up
by MichiganJayHawk on Feb 4, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. He's looking decent on the defensive end tonight.
Going to need him to keep it up.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
I am shocked at this lineup
Seems very un HCBS to me
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 8:44 PM CST reply actions
Maybe he's gambling...
hoping to weather the foul trouble storm and save our bigs for the 2nd half. and trying to settle T-Rob down some.
HA! Vitale questioning Self's substitutions.
I’m starting to feel good about the game now.
I Tune Him
Out for the most part.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
I actually kind of like him.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Im not a hardcore enough hoops fan for him to annoy me.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Is Billy Packer
Still employed? My least favorite. Digger Phelps is a close second.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Packer finally retired a few years back.
Probably in his vault counting his money like Scrooge McDuck.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
Bilas is at the arena for gameday.
Don’t know why he couldn’t call the game.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Good point.
It could get ugly after this game no matter how it turns out.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Probably The Best
Analyst currently.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Well, we've got a lead at this point.
Can we hold onto it until the half? I have a feeling Mizzou’s about to hit a couple 3’s. Wonder if we’ll be able to stem their momentum.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
T-rob is out of control
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 8:50 PM CST reply actions
T-Rob missing bunnies the last couple games.
Just not falling right now. Frustrating.
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Not what you want to see
out of a guy in his fifth year.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Looks Like A
Beach ball.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Wrecking Ball
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
I used to love Conner Teahan,
but that kid needs to sit down. Now.
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Needs More Shot
Fakes.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
No More Ty-T
Why-T?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
That was half-way down.
Obviously T2 trying to go 2-for-1, but oh well.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
Instead we ended up with a 0-for-1
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Nice block by Young.
Halted the negative momentum a bit anyway.
Ug. glad that half is over.
We completely played their game. Not our’s.
No less than when the game started :)
We still have a chance, but need to get T-Rob on track and Withey back in the game
by MichiganJayHawk on Feb 4, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
I feel more confident than I did before the game started.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
how so?
Half the team’s in foul trouble, and we don’t seem to know quite how to defend them
Use the forks
I didn't think we'd be this close at half.
I thought it’d be 10+ points at half, and then we’d go on a few runs in the second half to get close, but never get over the hump.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Same Here
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Foul trouble crippled us.
Self was just trying to get to the half without getting anyone with 3. I expect a more normal rotation in the second half.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Ratliffe Will Be
Back with 2 fouls, too. Go at him.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
We haven't played our game at all,
And we’re only down five. We have a chance to come out of halftime running and get that back quickly, and we can do it if we just get our guys going.
by 2.1 seconds left on Feb 4, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
we're notin foul trpuble
Remember Ratliff and english have 2 fouls as well.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Feb 4, 2012 9:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes. The Entire
MO team has 4.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
We played terrible and are only down by 5
If we calm down and stay out of foul trouble, we should win this.
Gotta figure out a way to stop them from going on these runs when we get the lead.
Up 6 early, they go on an 10-2 run. Up 4 with 4 minutes to go, they go on an 11-2 run to end the half.
I think the run happened mostly because of foul trouble though.
Self was biting the bullet to make sure no one had more than 2 fouls to start the second half.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
They're Beating Us
On the FT line; more chances, better PCT.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
I am hoping we come out in the 2nd half
like we did vs. OU
I always drink the Kool-Aid
Going for #8 in a row!
Both Teams Are
4-11 on threes.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Oh good lord I'm drunk as shit.
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 9:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
My facebook feed has exploded with Mizzou comments.
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
Lucky You
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry that sucks assholes
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 9:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just hid it all
The funny thing is, I didn’t know half of them were Mizzou fans… How convenient.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Howdy...
Was Teahan playing for Mizzou those last 4 minutes? He looked like crap.
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
First half notes:
1. We’ve done a terrible job of exploiting our size advantage. Look for HCBS to figure something out on that and try to go to it early and often in the 2nd half.
2. If T2 doesn’t play that well, we’re down 12 easily right now. He’s carried us big time. Hopefully others can pick it up so T2 doesn’t think he has to do it all 2nd half.
3. Got some decent contributions from Wesley and Young. Teahan…well, I think I’ve said enough.
4. First 5 minutes of this half will be key. If we’re even, we’ve got a decent shot. If they get the lead out to double digits, it could be a LONG 2nd half for us.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
Hopefully it will be like the OU game.
They weren’t looking down low at ALL in the first half, then the second half, they got constant touches, and dominated.
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Ty...
Is our savior right now. Admittedly, he’s the only guy that’s played in a game like this before as a key player, but come on. The rest of the team is hardly providing anything on offense.
by 2.1 seconds left on Feb 4, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed big time on #1
we’ve only got it in to T-Rob on the blocks a few times, and for the most part he passes right out or chucks up something ugly.
Self needs to find a way to go right at MU’S “bigs”
Use the forks
They Are Collapsing
On him. Someone needs to make them pay.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
Got to settle T-Rob down some.
He is just so sped up that he is out of control.
It's Better Now
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
I'm very nervous right now.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
by Bensa on Feb 4, 2012 9:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
BTW, Boozed Is
From Juneau. A guy I work with got run over him in a HS game. It’s his proudest sports moment.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
LOL!
That’s in my sig because a lot of people hate him over at the Bulls blog.
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
When Deng Comes
Back they will be formidable. Boozer makes Noah at C a viable option.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Deng is playing now.
They’re slaughtering the Bucks.
Supporter of Carlos Austin Boozer, and I don't want to see Dwight Howard in a Bulls uniform. Call me crazy.
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Let's see if the refs even up the fouls here.
KU has 10, MU only with 4.
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I had not even noticed that.
Some of our fouls were really silly. I don’t recall many that i thought were really bad calls though.
Bad bit of luck there.
Went from potentially 1 down to 6 down. At least T-Rob came back with a good play.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
You leave Shaquille O'Neal that open from there and he makes it.
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Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
I thought I heard a whistle
Since 2005: Royals win% = .4100, Chiefs win% = .4095
Mitt Romney is a serial killer.
by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Im doing other things, and that was why I looked up...
Could have been a weird shoe squeak or something… But I looked up and see Withey falling out of bounds, and no one paying him any attention
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Aside from that lucky 3 by Mizzou,
we’ve absolutely dominated here.
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He Is Built
Entirely of fast-twitch muscle fiber.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Racist
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
He Gets Up
Over the rim easier than T-Rob.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed. And That
Was a reply to an earlier comment that somehow posted here.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Now that's how to take a lead. Damned.
"If you don't want to work, become a reporter. That awful power, the public opinion of the nation, was created by a horde of self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditch digging and shoemaking and fetched up journalism on their way to the poorhouse." - Mark Twain
BOYCOTT ESPN!
Now to keep it!
Oh and thanks for the Little Apple Karma
by MichiganJayHawk on Feb 4, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
I just got done watching #1 Baylor demolish my LadyCats. I need to watch some good basketball.
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This shit just got Bananas
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They're reverting back to Anderson ball so far this half.
If we can keep our composure we could do well.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
They do that occasionally.
Usually leads to a Haith timeout and usually he gets them back on track.
This LensCrafters commerical always creeps me out a little bit.
With the guy sitting way back on the bus and reading the book.
Wow, Mizzou just have KU a HUGE break there.
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Keep the foot on the gas pedal now, please!
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Beautiful shot.
Unfortunately he rushed the next one just a bit.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
We were so fortunate he came here when Roy bailed.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
I like HCBS more than I ever liked Roy...
Its amazing what a NC will do to your feelings.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Roy was great, but he got awfully touchy in his last years.
Since we got Self, it was a great move all around.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Don't even want to think about the alternative...
Its unknown but infinitely worse.
by 2.1 seconds left on Feb 4, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's the better coach
Roy might be better recruiter, but Self develops TEAMS better
by MichiganJayHawk on Feb 4, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
^^This
Our team chemistry has been unbelievable every year since it was all his guys. One of my favorite parts of rooting for us.
by 2.1 seconds left on Feb 4, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
I Wanted Kruger
But realized that could never happen.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Fortunate doesn't come close to describing it.
Scared to think of where we’d be if he hadn’t come.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
EJ is so much better when he takes, like, 3 steps in.
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What is with Travis and pulling up when he can take it to the hole?
He makes that on OCCASION.
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They have been calling the charge a lot.
It was set up. I think he did the right thing, except for missing the shot.
wtf is ej doing?
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which is why Teahen is coming in
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
The Stopper!
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
That was ugly, but I'll take the 2 points, thank you very much.
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If i wasn't so lazy tonight...
I would photoshop T-Rob onto the cover of the movie Unstoppable
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
TRob is a beast.
But he scares me with the flexing and screaming.
Lawls - MU still has two lines for the 3pt arc. Every other team I've watched has updated their court.
What, they don’t have enough money?
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No, not since 2010 I think. I didn't know it changed, but I noticed it when I was looking at the new K-State court, I wondered what happened to the line at the top of the FT circle.
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They'll make another 5 million a year
in the sec, but spend 50 more to try and keep up. Brilliant!
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
What about Ratliffe makes me hate him?
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If he can hit that shot, like, EVER,
what a bonus. He’s GOT to contribute in order to offset his defense.
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Hopefully that shot turns him around.
He’s been pretty ugly out there the last few games.
by MJR on Feb 4, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
Just when I think Teahen could get any worse...
he does something like that… AND TOTALLY REDEEMS HIMSELF!!!
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Threehan!
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Please get Ty back in now.
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Oh man, that's a huge bailout foul on T-Rob there.
Terrible call.
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Agree.
Heard the whistle and wondered what the heck it was for.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
VERY late.
The ref totally knew he blew it too.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
SO late.
Like, terrified nun late.
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by Bensa on Feb 4, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Was hoping somebody would pick up on that...
One of my favorite jokes…
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If there are any nuns in Columbia tonight,
I can guarantee they’re going to be terrified.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
They Terrify Me
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
That was one heck of a late whistle.
Pretty sure I could have cooked a 5 course meal in the time it took him to call that.
And Eaten It
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Hyperbole Is Hyperbole
Go for it.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Oh god, not the Zaire Taylor shot...
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Both teams trading sloppy offense here.
Let’s go ahead and fix ours, at least, shall we?
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Love how Self has the composure
in a game this big to keep his cool and keep giving the bench guys pointers.
Great first 10 minutes.
Need another 10 minutes just like it.
Its like we are playing Duke.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
7-17
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
See Below.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
That Was A
Response to a comment about their 3’s. Second time that’s happened.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Good timeout.
Could’ve started to push out the lead, but instead it’s down to 2.
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It would be nice if they stopped hitting desperation threes.
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Our Lead! Our
Precious lead! Nooooooooooooo1
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I hate this about Mizzou
they can just start chucking up threes and it seems like every god damn one of them goes in
Use the forks
Big big play the way the momentum was going.
And now T-Rob draws the 4th foul of Ratliffe.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Not a great call, there, IMO.
T-Rob got lucky. Gotta finish that.
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My Satellite Is
A little behind.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Should be 5
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
No
He definitely wouldn’t have been in to pick up the other foul.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Well, if we win this despite their ridiculous 3-PT shooting..
I am going to be really impressed by our guys.
Gotta finish that TRob.
Better knock these down.
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Nice work, Mizzou fans.
Throwing crap on the floor. Always classy, this bunch.
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We're Outshooting Them
From the field. They have 3 more treys and 5 more FT’s.
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Only Ty...
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That's Our Act!
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
How about a T on Moore?
He sure bitched about an obvious foul.
I often wonder if Teahan occassionally overperforms his talent...
Or if he is a real under performer…. I have to believe its the first one
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Soren Petro makes a good point
that he’d be a solid mid-major player, but he’s really got to scrap to contribute at KU.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
philofthenorth=Arnold Swarzennegger clone.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
More Rick Wayne
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
He induced the errant pass with Jedi mind tricks
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by averagegatsby on Feb 4, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
It's A White
Guy thing.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I loved Threehan jawing it up with Denmon.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 9:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
nice to see this team showing a little swagger
I feel like that’s been missing at times
Use the forks
I Saw KU
Blow a 16 point lead in the last 8 minutes here. Don’t get too confident.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
I remember KU blowing a 5 point lead to Kentucky
in AFH with 29 seconds left, but luckily Ted Owens ain’t coaching here no more.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
He was a great guy,
but not a brilliant coach.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Don't Miss Ted
The only KU coach ever fired.
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Anybody tracking the comments over at RMN?
I don’t have time, but I’d be curious as to what they’re saying.
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You Asked
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
man that crowd got quiet
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Good call on that travel. Needed to calm down and milk the clock.
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That is just two straight plays of bullshit.
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Gimme a score here... please.
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You gotta be shitting me.
Keep chucking up shots, Denmon.
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At no point in this game was I worried... Until right now.
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Why am I not surprised
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What the....
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:02 PM CST reply actions
Yes, but it worked.
We have our chance to win.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
I don't even want to watch the end of this one
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A Proven Strategy
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by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. The refs hosed us,
but we still didn’t keep our composure very well.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
We give them a break, they give us a break.
Please. TRob all day. I’m about to puke. For real.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:04 PM CST reply actions
Sorry, guys.
But it sucks that this team can’t just give the ball to DRose.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:04 PM CST reply actions
not to sound like a k state fan
but this game was just handed to Missouri on a silver platter
Use the forks
And I thought the Big 12 was supposed to screw them
as they fled the conference? Weird.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Id rather lose this in regulation than in OT...
I can’t handle a loss in OT.
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Bad call or not, Ty was out of control.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:06 PM CST reply actions
Yep
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
What kind of possession was that?
Terrible. Just terrible. EJ…ugh.
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No kidding.
EJ had the space and time to put up a decent shot. He just kind of froze up.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Same play that won KU the 08 national championship.
Problem is, EJ is no Mario.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Awful that we just about had the win in our hands
and blundered it away.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
Why didn't he take that first shot?!?!?
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:09 PM CST reply actions
Yep
No matter how many bad call, missed free throws, or bullshit threes there were, KU had this game IN THE BAG.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, not even close
pretty fairly called for a road game in the Big XII – they got the calls under the hoop which were the difference
Where are my pants??? Wtf??
I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!
by Jayhawk12_28 on Feb 4, 2012 10:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We did not play smart at all at the end.
Yeah, some of the calls were pretty rough, but it would not have mattered of we had played it smarter.
This was EXACTLY like the Duke game in Maui..
Carbon copy, other than the opponent.
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Officials
Three monstrously horrible calls to decide the game.
If a Missouri fan ever says they never get the calls and we do… I’ll punch em in the face.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 4, 2012 10:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Taylor lost the Duke game for you
and I feel he lost this one for you as well. Terrible. God i hate MU and this really sucks.
Taylor carried us in the first half. That counts.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Just knew this would happen
Every so often, these games in Columbia happen. History proves it. Just like in 2009. KU gets nice lead late, Missouri rains some bullshit threes, refs make some horrible calls, then we do something dumb.
Shit happens when you win championships
true
we didn’t help ourselves there
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
So, who on Mizzou is gonna make the dumbass comment: "We're gonna beat them in Lawrence too!"
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:14 PM CST reply actions
Gotta get the win in Waco now.
Man that was a crappy ending.
Yep.
This makes Waco a MUST-WIN game. And probably @KSU too.
Both are must-wins.
Gotta steal one that Mizzou blows. Still think 14-4 wins the league, though.
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Mizzou has a cake walk schedule from here on out except for the game at Allen
I pretty much have zero hope for a conference title now
Use the forks
I did originally. Now I'm don't.
Just don’t see MU losing any of these other than the game in Lawrence.
@OU
BU
OSU
@A&M
KSU
@KU
ISU
@TTU
I have a feeling Baylor is gonna want blood.
And don’t sleep on aTm. If they get Middleton back they could ride their crowd to a victory.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Not sleeping on A&M, just don't see A&M winning .
They had Middleton the first time around and MU still beat them by 19. Yeah, it was in Columbia, but A&M hasn’t exactly been great at home. Lost to Rice, got blown out by ISU, and only beat TTech by 13. Middleton played in all three games.
I will give them credit for playing Baylor tough, but Baylor has a big handicap on the sideline.
Missouri isn't that good
KU didn’t even play that well and MU barely won at home, and it took two insanely bad calls and us shitting ourselves for them to win.
Missouri will lose at least two more games and more likely three. No way they beat us in Lawrence.
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 4, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
they're 21-2
I have trouble saying they aren’t that good.
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by PenHawk on Feb 4, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well they're non-con schedule really kinda sucked.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not at all saying they're "not good"
I’m saying I don’t think they’re better than KU.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
I think our best is better than their best
But it would be nice to be able to count on seeing our best every now and then
Use the forks
No way we lose in Lawrence too
This just sealed a 15 + KU win
Shit happens when you win championships
These refs were unbelievably bad
That call against Robinson at the end was f’ing crap. God dammit I’m mad
That was the worst one of the night.
Tyshawn’s charge was a pretty good call, all things considered.
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Uh, how,
the defender only had one foot on the floor
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All about established position and verticality.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
so you can be sliding over
balanced on one foot and dragging the other over and it’s considered an established position?
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Technically yes.
I didn’t have a chance to rewatch this one but once legal position is established it is on the offense to go around him.
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Rock Chalk Talk
Yeah
I don’t blame the ref on that one nearly as much as I do on Ty.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
The charge call was insane
The officials called the bullshit too. And Dickie V is senile. He still saw it.
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 4, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing like a fat bench scrub
getting a flop called against the potential national player of the year. Sweet job refs.
We obviously could have overcome it, but it was still infuriating.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
I saw this coming after that bullshit charge on trob
We lost our heads after that. Damn
At least they had the worst court storm in cbball history
Demnon told them to get off the court
props to him really
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Storming the court happens WAY too much these days.
Wasn’t Missouri SUPPOSED to win this game? The answer is yes.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
Storming the court is rarely justified. IMO, it should be when an unranked team beast a top 5 team, or when any team beast a #1. That’s about it. And even that could be a little too much.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
which is exactly why
he told them to get off the court. I’m actually somewhat impressed…
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I hate sounding like a MU fan complaining about the refs
But I can’t see them coming back in the last 3 minutes without those crazy calls on Robinson (the charge and the travel).
Well yes
but I hate to pile on T2 because he played a really excellent game but his last minute and a half was definitely ‘Bad’ Tyshawn
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Yeah, but building a lead that big with 3:00 to go ought to allow you to make some mistakes down the stretch and still win
If either of the Robinson buckets count we still win
We did an absolutely awful job of clock management when we had the lead.
None of those bad calls would have mattered at all if we had run off more clock when we had the chance.
We didn't manage the clock well but they took the lead with plenty of time left
Clock management needs work, but it didn’t cost us the game
Missouri took the lead with 0:56 left.
Earlier, T-Rob got an offensive rebound and a new 35 sec shot-clock and was swarmed by 3 Missouri players. Instead of passing it out to burn off 35 more secs, he tried to force it and turned it over. Had he passed it out and burned most of the 35 secs off, it would have put a great deal more pressure on Missouri. And that is just 1 instance where we did silly things early in the shot clock. Had we played smarter, it would have been much harder on Missouri.
To use a boxing analogy
We had them on the ropes, they caught us with a counterpunch, and then we folded like a cheap suit. My phone blew up after the game. I don’t even want to look at it. Probably a bunch of slaver trash talk. Ugh.
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 4, 2012 10:18 PM CST reply actions
Yes, despite the refs,
we should have finished far better.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 4, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
T-Rob missing baskets with 15+ seconds left on the shot clock . . .
. . . at the end of the game was the decider. Use the clock.
The basket was called off for a bogus traveling call
And the other for a bogus charge call
Oh, one of them.
I think that was a charging call where his left elbow went into a Mo player who may have flopped. I’ve seen it about 20 times and it, while possibly disputable, still doesn’t take away from him missing a basket with lots of time on the clock on the prior shot (w/over two minutes of game time). KU lost this game based on poor late game/shot clock management. I’d like to say differently as a KU fan, but that is the truth.
How much time was left when Mizzou took the lead?
I don’t see how our admittedly poor clock management made the difference.
Maybe we're using different standards.
It is not a matter of when MU took the lead. I’m discussing the sensible option of not playing stupidly and giving away the lead. Robinson shot the ball at 2:25 with 18 second on the shot clock with an 8 point lead. That is not smart.
He got his own rebound and traveled two seconds later.
Shooting the ball with 15 second left on the shot clock with an 8 point lead, with under 2:25 to go, on a non lay-up or dunk, was not smart. I think that is pretty standard basketball IQ.
This loss pisses me off more than you could know; if I’m wrong about this, and somehow not being a KU fan by realizing reality, please let me know.
by kansasjohn on Feb 4, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with all that
but you don’t really want to go into a slow down just to go into a slow down either.
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I completely agree that the clock management and situational awareness were terrible
I just don’t see how the outcome is different if Robinson is making those plays 10 seconds later in the shot clock.
What is better?
Non-sensical shots early in the shot clock, of which misses let Missouri back in the game
OR
potential misses late in the shot clock, where Missouri is forced to make shots to be back in the game?
Option two is better. I’ve heard plenty of coaches and announcers comment on this sort of stuff. I’m sure you have, too.
I think that it can go either way
Defensive stops because the offense can’t get a good shot late in the shot clock can energize a team’s offense.
Plus, I only have a problem with one of the Robinson shots – the first out of control one. The other two shots! The one negated by the bogus charge call and the one negated by a travel that resulted from a Moore shove were both good possessions to my eye, but they just started too early.
Wouldn't it be better . . .
. . . for KU to have had the ball for an extra 30 seconds (hypothetically) for the last few minutes of the game. Generally, the team with the ball does not allow the other team to score. I’m sure you would agree with this.
I would have been much less happier with jacked up shots iafter running the shot clock down
I think 8 times out of 10, we get two baskets out of the two Robinson possessions and the game gets salted away.
agreed. If you get a good shot, take it
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I'm not a fan of the prevent defense or the four corners offense
Stick with what got you the lead. Get the bal in to Robinson and let him take god shots if he’s got them.
looks to me like you want to make and defend an argument
you should put up a Fanpost tomorrow
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Did you watch the MU Texas game this week?
MU tried to take the air out of the ball to protect a lead down the stretch and their offense ground to a halt and they gave away the lead.
I don’t think this is as cut and dried as you see it
I watched the game
I’ll look at the boxscore again. Even if true, that would seem to be a small sample size against reality.
I rarely question your posts, but I wonder if emotion is ruling.
That is a very nice compliment
And I agree that time management wasn’t good. I didn’t like Robinson’s drive from the wing when it happened and I didn’t like Tyshawn racing across the floor to ultimately get stripped.
But I also felt in real time like the play where Robinson got called for a travel was a good possession, and I disagreed with the travel call.
Usually I like Gotlieb, but ragging on T2 like that is wrong
We would have been blown out in the 1st half if T2 wouldn’t have been in there
by MichiganJayHawk on Feb 4, 2012 10:19 PM CST reply actions
yeah, I don't put this one on Tyshawn
It would be nice if he had hit a free throw, but outside of that he was the biggest reason that game was even close
Use the forks
I don't think you can put it on T2
but unfortunately in Crunch Time he didn’t come up. He kept us in it, so without him Cruch TIme wouldn’t even happen. It’s tough to fault him
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I understand what you are saying...
and he was our only real bright spot in the first half. But having said that, we started to dominate them when we went inside and used T-Rob and our size effectively. Why couldn’t TT (our senior point guard and 4 year starter) see that in the first half?
He was the only one who kept us in it the first half.
Really it was just a perfect storm. Lucky threes, plus two clearly wrong calls, plus us tightening up and not playing well down the stretch.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 4, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
^this
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
On that final shot
finally EJ gets his chance when he’s supposed to shoot the 3 and he didn’t? Just a weird 90 seconds…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I don't think he was supposed to shoot it.
I can’t go back and look, but I think Teahan was going towards the corner and that’s where the ball was supposed to go. Of course I could be way wrong, that’s just what my memory is telling me, and my memory does a pretty good job of making me look like a fool.
Yup.
It’s “Chops,” which is HCBS’s go-to play in the final seconds when we need a 3. You may remember it from the 08 National Championship, the 07 Big XII championship game, or even the 08 loss at Okie State. I’m almost positive HCBS told EJ to look for Conner in the corner (it would have been Rush in 08, btw). Still, EJ’s gotta be ready to shoot it if it’s open.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
I agree, and I was screaming at him to shoot it.
That doesn’t change that he wasn’t the one who was supposed to take that shot, Conner was.
I don't remember if Teahan even touched the ball, did he?
I’m not saying he didn’t, but I would not even want him touching the ball late in the game.
No, he didn't.
Saying that Conner was the one who was supposed to shoot it is probably going too far on my part, but it certainly looked to me like EJ was aiming to pass the ball to Conner in the corner, he just couldn’t get it there because of the defense. Combine Conner running to the corner with EJ hesitating to shoot the ball makes me think EJ wasn’t the one who was supposed to shoot it.
Could be wrong, that’s just how I saw it.
Did we just get Memphis'd?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Derrick Rose still has nightmares, my friend.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
something tells me
he $leep$ just fine
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Probably didn't last Sunday.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 4, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
it that has to do with an NBA reference, I won't get it. : )
If you wanna talk the Blackhawks on the other hand…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
are you serious?
well missery can definetely thank the refs for that one. we were up 8 at the time and then the ref makes just an unbelievable rediculous call against robinson ARE YOU SERIOUS? not even close to a charge really seiously. unreal. that was such a blatent block and not even a good flop. christmas just came early for those guys. can’t wait for the rematch in allen. it came to what i thought they have NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY that can stay with robinson when we run the offense against that team like we are surpose to robinson is a beast. the whole thing turned on that call. after that i knew well its over . that call whether you think or not was the game 2 minutes to go and up 8 and they call that it should of been a block and 2 shots. well they still coming to lawrence get ready
feel better?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
It was a 50/50 call. It went the other way.
They made plays after that, we didn’t. Pretty simple.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I sort of agree.
We should have been pounding it inside in both halves of the game to both our bigs. We did a half-assed job of it. We only used 1 big and only did it in one half.
Combination of his fouls/lack of playing time in the first half
And TRob going beast mode in the second half. Nobody was looking for him because TRob was kicking butt.
I thought Withey
was the reason we had such a big 2nd half. He completely shut down Mizzou’s interior game through almost the entire 2nd half. He altered shots, made the occasional block, got into passing lanes and forced some turnovers and came up with some big rebounds.
I’ll take that every night from him.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
probably
and I agree that he was maybe not as aggressive as he could have been offensively but we were a different team as a whole with him in the game.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
It doesn't matter how much he shoots
It at least opens things up inside for Robinson and there is another rebounder present
He was the reason for the second half..
Then we put Teahan in who is running around like a chicken with his head cut off, fouling, and turning the ball over! How did Self not see that?
and then he hit 2 threes...
but yeah, Teahan is not very good
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Admittedly, one that Dick Vitale could have made
at least admittedly by him…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I thought it showed decent awareness and hands.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I am definitely no Teahan fan
but he played about as well as we could have asked for tonight
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He was far better than I'd feared
Especially in the second half
yep
I don’t want to give away my entire post for tomorrow here but while I would have liked the win, Missouri had to shoot nearly 50% from three to win and that’s even without mentioning the ref stuff.
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I agree entirely
MU got almost everything it could have hoped for on offense and still trailed almost the entire second half. It made me feel good about the relative abilities of our teams
I'll question any ref stuff.
But will say the 3’s were mostly very contested
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
If I pick out 5 questionable calls would you refute them?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Give me the calls and I'll take a look tomorrow and post my thoughts.
I’m not saying they werent close but will say 4 out of 5 are easily defensible.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
k. I'll go back and take a look
this might hurt a bit…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I can really only think of 1 call that stood out in my mind as total crap.
And even Dickie V. pointed it out.
yeah
only one was bad. I don’t think we got many of the 50/50 ones but that’s gonna happen on the road.
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by the way
if the shoe is on the other foot here, Missouri fans would never stop talking about it, so kudos to the majority of Kansas fans
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The pomeroy evidence finds surprisingly little home court advantage
And within that, much is attributable to factors other than officiating. I know the idea of home court officiating is widespread, but I’ve not seen a ton of evidence for it. We certainly didn’t get much help against KState.
one of the SB nation sites (cant remember which sadly)
looked at foul disparity home v. road recently. I’ll try to find it
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Given that home teams win more and fouling is a come-from-behind strategy
I’d expect the visitors to get called for more fouls. I’d like to see that effect isolated (although I’m not exactly sure how to do it).
But I would like to see that study all the same.
i might be mashing two posts together
but i think they took out <2 minutes with a lead of 5 or more or something like that
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after all this i'll obviously never find it, but i'll do my best
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Throbinson's charge
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
And tha t was more flop than an actual charge but I can use the video to show t-rob causing contact with his shoulder.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
My memory is that the contact was against a part of the defender that was not above his feet
It’s hard to see how Robinson gained an advantage by the contact, and I didn’t think the contact came against a part of the defender that was in position.
It was square in the defenders shoulder.
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Rock Chalk Talk
Just grabbed
A pic of Taylor’s charge and it’s really defensible either way.
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Rock Chalk Talk
I appreciate your level headedness and expertise
But there’s still a huge problem if all the 50-50 calls go one way. There’s no mathematical difference between four 50-50 calls going against you and one nearly certainly wrong call going against you.
The difference is 50/50 means a different thing to a fan and a rational observer.
You cant rationally say every 50/50 call went against us.
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Rock Chalk Talk
I didn't mean to suggest that every 50-50 call in the game went against us
But if somebody points out four pivotal calls in the last two minutes and all of them went against us, it matters whether they were defensible or egregious individually but collectively, it’s still a problem, even if each of them is defensible individually.
No. Denmon drilling a 3 from 25 on a catch and shoot is a problem.
Each call has to be dealt with individually. Otherwise you’re essentially asking for make up calls and there’s no way you’re doing that are you?
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Rock Chalk Talk
The officiating should reflect the actual play on the floor
To use an analogy, if a coin is flipped 20 times and comes up heads 18 times, and somebody complains, it’s not dispositive to break each coin flip down one by one and show that it was perfectly reasonable for the coin to come up heads that time. The events have to be considered collectively.
I am interested to see your analysis and to see the plays broken down. I’m only trying to point out that four individually defensible calls are not necessarily defensible (or not as defensible) collectively.
by KSinDC on Feb 4, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
KU jobbed themselves in this game
How many team blow an 8 point lead at 2:06 remaining? VFF.* KU pissed away a lead. I love KU, but emotions aside, KU pissed away the lead.
*very fucking few.
by kansasjohn on Feb 4, 2012 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I was very pleased with our 3-pt defense
I’m shocked that they shot that well against it, especially Denmon
Denmon was ridiculous.
Almost every one he launched was contested and deep.
A learning experience ...
some things we learned …
It isn’t as easy any more, but Tyshawn can still be speeded up.
Triple teams on Thomas work better when one has a whistle.
Marcus Denmon is better than we realized.
Frank Haith is better than we realized.
RRROOOOCK CHAAAALLLK! JAAAAYYYHAAAAWWWK! KAAAAYYY UUuuuUU!
I kind of like Kim English
Barring the fact he plays for mizzou, he seems like a well spoken and intelligent guy
Eh, maybe its the 13 beers in me
But I’m over it. They held serve. Love that we get them in Lawrence. Let’s take em down there, avenge the loss, and move on.
Like I always say, there are bigger fish to fry. I’ll take a Final 4 over any league hardware and etc. This team has the ability to do it. And a game like this will have them salivating in the future.
This is a flawed team with limited offensive weapons. But they play good defense, they are athletic, and they have heart. A few breaks for em in March could be huge. This is one loss, in early February, to a top 5 team on the road. It hurts that its Mizzou, but lets just move on. The goal is winning the league, getting a good dance seed, and making a run. All three are still in play, and these days, I’m more for the latter.
Having said all that, Jesus we are thin. If Taylor and Robinson both aren’t totally on, we can’t beat good teams, especially on the road.
Shit happens when you win championships
Damn. 13 beers?
This comment is 100% correct. You don’t do that sober.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
by Warden11 on Feb 4, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
O'Doul's
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I wish
Oteherwise I’d feel a lot better tomorrow.
God damn.bless beer pong
Shit happens when you win championships
Also, not a lot if you start early
Which I did, and since the initial count, have mixed in a good amount of Papa Johns, three powerades and a few chugs of water.
Hydration, kids. Hydration. Yanmean
Shit happens when you win championships
I generally agree with this
my biggest issue is I feel like, even though we’re tied for the lead, the conference championship streak is over. We’ve only just started to roughest part of our conference schedule. Meanwhile, Missouri has a relative cakewalk through the rest of the season. That’s what makes me far more upset than simply losing tonight’s game.
Use the forks
I'm drinking PBR son
I got a 12 pack for like 7 buck. Mixed in a few Pacifco from Mexican night the other night
Shit happens when you win championships
before i forget (i'm basically just taking notes for tomorrow now)
bill self is a god damn genius for putting trob on the bad pressey.
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conner
until tonight i repeat until tonight. conner has been in a really bad funk lately. what is exactly is his role? his role on this team is when inserted in the game is to drain the three and until tonight he had done nothing. he has been hurtin us. he is SLOW defensively. getting burnt other teams take advantage of that not hittin three’s so if your not hitting and getting burnt then you need to HAVE A SEAT. ya tonight he hit a couple but still getttin burnt getting beat way to much on the defensive end
He hit both shots that he took.
I agree that he is not the man, but he did not lose this one for KU. Truth be told, he played a whole lot better defensively than I expected.
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