Jeff Withey With Another Big Game As Kansas Sweeps Kansas State
by Owen on Feb 13, 2012 10:19 PM CST
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PrintIt wasn't always pretty but it was a win. Kansas has now won 23 of the last 25 games in Manhattan Kansas but it's hard to argue that the task hasn't become more difficult in recent years. Early on Kansas looked fairly comfortable using a solid defensive effort to give themselves a double digit halftime lead while holding Kansas State to their lowest first half point total of the season.
However at the start of the second half Kansas State finally caught a bit of an offensive surge and made this one a contest. The Wildcats were even able to snag a one point lead midway through the second before Tyshawn Taylor knocked down a pair of threes to kick off a Kansas run that would extend the lead to double digits for the Jayhawks once again.
Kansas took that lead into the final three minutes before things nearly fell apart for Kansas. Just as they did a couple of weeks back against Missouri, Kansas failed to score, couldn't convert free throws and turned the ball over under pressure. Fortunately in this instance, Kansas State wasn't able to put together the run that was needed to get over the hump.
Kansas wins this one by a final score of 59 to 53. It's marks another road win for Kansas and one that had been circled on the calendar as a potential stumbling block. Tyshawn Taylor led the Jayhawks with 20 points and 5 assists. Jeff Withey might have once again been the story for Kansas as the junior center provided 18 points, 11 rebounds and 9 blocks.
Withey's play was absolutely critical for the Jayhawks in a game where Thomas Robinson really struggled to get things going. Much of the success of this team over the last week and a half is owed to Jeff Withey and hopefully that high level of play is something he can keep contributing down the stretch. Kansas now sits at 11-2 in the Big 12. The Jayhawks next game is a home contest against Texas Tech.
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I want to
know the last time we had a block/charge go our way. It appears the semi-circle in the lane means absolutley nothing and ability to be stationary when taking a charge is an afterthought. Anyway, good road win and stayed tough when we got down the 1 point.
A foul wasn't called on it,
But I think we got lucky when TT extended his arm before he drained that three as the shot clock expired.
Yeah, that entire TT sequence was a cluster but it ended up nicely.
But i agree, I feel like we get screwed on every single charge/block call. That charge call on EJ for his 5th foul was complete bullshit. Guy was so late getting there he couldn’t even slide all the way under EJ but he still got the call. You have to allow the offensive player a place to land.
Not five feet down the court though.
I thought that call was 100% correct.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
How is it different at half court
than when it’s under the bucket? If a guy goes in for a thunder dunk from 8 feet away, and a guy slides under him and there’s contact, it’s a block every time!
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
Watching it live, I didn't think he slid under him.
I thought he was in front of him from the start. There’s also a circle under the basket.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I don't have it on DVR
But I did watch the replay and he clearly wasn’t in front of Elijah when Elijah left the ground. Silo fans may claim the general out of control idea that announcers like to throw out when they can’t figure it out but to me it was a bad call.
Could have been. It's also a call that's made very often, so I don't mind that one at all.
If the question of whether EJ was in control when he came down can’t be answered with a “yes”, then I can’t worry about him being called for a player control foul.
My philosophy also differs from most on here in regards to the charge/block call. Most here seem to want the calls to be blocks more often than not, that may be philosophy or it might just be the calls are going against us lately. But I am not a fan of the ball handler just putting his head down and attacking the basket without a clear lane or creating space, to me that’s a charge. If you’re the one creating the contact, I have very few complaints with a foul being called against you.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I don't mind a charge call
when the ballhandler is trying to go through his man to get to the basket. My complaints are on the calls where a defender is leaping in front of the ballhandler with the intent of drawing a charge. That’s not playing basketball, it’s trying to work the rules in your favor. The rules say you can do it, so whatever, but I think when a defender does that the official needs to make damn sure the defender establishes position. Too often ref seems to applaud the effort and the call goes against the offense regardless of positioning.
Use the forks
by PenHawk on Feb 14, 2012 8:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
agreed
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Feb 14, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
How was he not in control?
He land on squarely on two feet after completing a perfect overhead pass. Aside from leaving the floor to do so, that’s about as under control as it gets.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 14, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
Because he landed about five feet from the spot he jumped from?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Jumping 2 feet or 5...
doesn’t determine control for me. The call didn’t really surprise me, because officials are usually lazy, but it didn’t seem to violate the spirit of rule. Agree to disagree, I guess.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 14, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
We will have to agree on that.
Especially with your comment “officials are usually lazy”. It’s clear what you think of officials from that comment. It’s also clear that you don’t have a clue what these guys do to get where they’re at.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
You're right...
It should say that people are lazy. it’s nothing against officials in particular. But because they’re the ones screwing up, they get the blame. It’s very easy to get caught up in atmosphere, or to get out of position, or the one the drives me craziest, to anticipate a call.
That’s just the flaw of behing human. But it’s often attributable to laziness.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
I just don't think the act of jumping forward means you're out of control
Something changed within the last few years. It used to be that the defensive player had to be completely set before the offensive player left the floor. Now I see charges called often where the defensive player slides in after the ball-handler has jumped. Maybe there was some rule clarification that I’m not aware of, but I don’t see how having a defender move into your way after you’ve jumped should be a player control foul.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I can't tell if it matters
But the defender clearly moves while Elijah is in the air.
At the time Elijah jumps, the defender has both feet on the ground and the space where Elijah ends up landing is completely clear. While Elijah is in the air, the defender slides over about 3 feet to his left and Elijah hits him upon landing.
It sounds like Warden11 is saying that is permissible as long as EJ is “out of control” and it’s a charge by rule. If so, I guess I learned something new. I’m not sure why the rule would read that way (are we trying to encourage defenders to move into the landing space of offensive players?), but the world doesn’t always make sense.
Under my previous understanding of the rule, it was a clearly not a charge though.
If this is what happened, then it's not a charge or shouldn't be.
While Elijah is in the air, the defender slides over about 3 feet to his left and Elijah hits him upon landing.
On my watching last night, I didn’t think this is what happened. But I also didn’t go back and watch.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
TT extending his arm
it was a brush off of the defender that was crawling all over him, but absolutely not a shove – though bobby went on and on about it. TT used his right hand sweeping the Angel’s hands away to the right – Angel’s left, but he fell the other direction. He was just out of control falling over himself.
I think the fact that the
denfender was out of control was probably the reason for the no call.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Yup...
I agree with MJR in that we got lucky. Not because it was a bad no-call, but because it’s a lazy call officials almost always make. Whether or not Taylor pushed off hard, I don’t know for sure, but I think Angel flopping so out of control saved us…had he just gone down, they would have blown the whistle.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 14, 2012 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying it was, or was not a shove.
Simply that I expected them to call a foul on it and I think we got a lucky break. When it happened I was waiting for them to waive the three pointer off because of a foul.
the charge calls have been out of hand for a couple years
I’ve felt that way since long before the Mizzou game. If the defender makes any attempt to get in front of the offensive player, it no longer seems to matter if he has position. At least that seems to be the direction the game is going. It’s gotten to the point where defenders are routinely being rewarded for initiating contact.
to hop off my soapbox though, I thought that game was fairly consistently called.
Use the forks
by PenHawk on Feb 13, 2012 10:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
agreed on all fronts
i think it was a poorly called game both ways and i generally hate the way the block/charge stuff gets called
I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter
I didn't see any calls where the player was in the circle and the refs called a charge
On the charge on Robinson, the defender was just outside the circle.
That circle is so small it useless
Has there been more than one or two plays this year where it’s been a factor? They need to expand it to the nba or get rid of it because it not eliminating contact under the basket.
This is a good point.
It has stopped guys from crawling underneath guys going for dunks right under the basket but another foot all the way around would help even more.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Really wish Withey had 1 more block
He played with heart tonight. Good on him
Not a bad 3 game stretch
Career high in points against Baylor.
Career high in rebounds against Oklahoma State.
Career high (tie) in blocks against Kansas State.
god that was ugly
But a win is a win is a win. Especially on the road. How about withey? He could really send us far in the tourny
I'm sure K-Staters are complaining
About the officiating and I think they may have a case on a few non-calls however the refs in general were letting the teams play and the entire game there was an incredible amount of contact and clutching in the blocks.
The same refereeing that meant KSU didn’t get a few calls also meant that their bigs could tie up Throbinson and shut him down.
There wason sequence in the first half where Spradling was trying to box out Whithey (yeah, I know) and he had his arms completely wrapped around Jeff, when Whithey went up for the eventual rebound he was held up by the reverse bear hug and came down out of control and fouled Samuels for foul number 2.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Feb 13, 2012 10:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Was that the play where Spradling . . .
. . . suplexed Withey?
Actually, I pretty much think refs – at least early in the year – would make any call possible against Withey based on perceived lack of coordination. That has gone away for the most part, but tonight, I think there was an early-game theme of calling Withey for traveling, fouling and goofing up (but it was all based on him being ganged up on defense and he was probably fouled each time).
This was a terribly officiated game
Anyone who wants to complain about the refs tonight will get no objection from me.
However, saying that it changed the outcome is a harder case to make.
nutshell
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Feb 14, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
perhaps not
but I think it’s fairly indicative of the kind of contact we saw in the low blocks all night. K-State’s aggressiveness down low and on the offensive boards is what kept them in the game. If the refs were calling the game tighter they couldn’t have played nearly as aggressively.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Yeah, seemed like the refs determined they were going to let it be a little rough down low.
They also stuck with it.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Yes,
to be clear, I’m not ragging on the refs. There were some no-calls that maybe should have been called but it was that way for both teams and the refs were consistent throughout. That’s all one can really ask for.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
i will echo what has been said
first, the positive…i am really becoming a withey fan, dude is just out there ballin’…he has shown some real toughness…the sequence where he got shoved, came down and got a block then a dunk on the other end, then a loose ball, was awesome…good for him.
the officiating in this game was just awful, both ways…the non-call on tyshawn for the shove and the T on Gipson were just as ridiculous as all the block/charge calls and the no-calls when withey was getting hammered going up for a shot.
Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."
--Albert Einstein
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Feb 13, 2012 10:49 PM CST reply actions
I agreed with the T
Getting up and barking an swearing at a player who is walking away is pretty bush league.
I think its pretty awesome that we have our 7-footer take the technical free throws.
Anyone ever see that before?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Feb 13, 2012 10:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Only in the NBA with guys like Dirk
In college… absolutely unheard of. Maybe Durant at Texas would be the closest I could think of off the top of my head.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 13, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
The T was deserved from what I saw
He was grabbing TRob’s leg then tried to start a fight with him afterwards. The shove on Taylor was a great no call. I thought for sure it was a blown no call seeing it live but Rodriguez basically landed on Taylors feet then fell down out of control. KState definitely got the majority of the calls/no calls on their side but bad on both ends
by jhwk316 on Feb 14, 2012 12:23 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
TRob is pretty slick about playing "innocent"
when choosing to stand for a second then take the path that walks right over the guys face. That’s an upper classman baiting the youngin’. He almost chose to just walk away when he got up, then turned back to continue to egg Gipson on – and Gipper just chomped down on the hook. TRob “tauntingly” walks back into the thick of things with his hands “innocently” up in the air.
The dumb part is that players have gotten T’s for some pretty “innocent” actions, and that would have been TRob’s 5th. That’s not smart when playing with 4 in a close game. He’s worth way more than a couple points over the last several minutes of the game. That could be the difference between a championship or not.
The path that walks over the guys face?
You mean forward? That’s ‘the path’ every person takes, every time.
by bigreed on Feb 14, 2012 7:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What was our FG% if you take away the dunks?
We shot pretty terribly tonight, especially the big men from the paint (dunks excluded).
31.1%, including a TRob miss.
I don’t remember a TRob missed dunk, but it’s in the play-by-play on ESPN.
Shooting breakdown
Dunks: 7-8
Layups: 5-14
2-pt jumpers: 5-18
3-ptrs: 4-13
Pretty awful shooting. We’ve got plenty to work on in practice this week.
Take away Taylor's 3 point shooting and it's an awful shooting night.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
So much for the tough schedule
that gives mizzoo the virtual championship.
Welcome to the Phog.
We are not out of the tough schedule yet.
OK State has ben tough to beat in Stillwater. Ask Missouri and ISU. That will be a tough game to win coming off the Missouri game 2 days before.
Our next two games are against teams that have a combined 4 conference wins.
Now that’s not to say the schedule won’t get tougher again, but his point was that people were talking about how tough the @MU, @BU, OSU, @KSU part of our schedule would be and we were essentially a made basket or two away from going 4-0 through it.
Now let's come to play in the "easy games"
before 2/25.
Yeah, I'm not ready to declare our other 4 games a win
Nor their other 5 games.
I would just like to use this opportunity to state once again
that those KSU unis are terrible. Awful. Maybe they look cool in person but on TV they really do look awful.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
This...
After the OK State game, someone commented about the Retro uniforms being unique and fresh (yes i liked them too) because Adidas dresses us like every other team. I say that I’m happy with the way Adidas dress us for the reason you just gave. I’m OK with looking like every other team because, while normal, our regular uniforms look good.
Talking uniforms, have we broke out the red ones this year? I’ve had to listen to a lot of game rather then watch em because of work.
by hawkinwichita on Feb 14, 2012 12:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Can't think of any game in particular
but I’m pretty sure we have on a few occasions.
by jhwk316 on Feb 14, 2012 12:13 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I thought we did early on... (Re: Red Unis)
I’m def a fan of clean and classy unis. Crazy unis are nice for a change (like reverse sweater night for hockey) but don’t change your fundamental go-to uni to some ugly grey that:
A) Looks like a road uniform
B) Looks dirty
C) Makes it very difficult to read the names and numbers
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Off topic but important..
I just saw this posted and wanted to make sure that it got peoples attention.
I hope KU does whatever is best for KU
If MU is willing to play for the same take as Davidson got, I’d be glad to see us schedule them in the Sprint Center. I’m not worried about how it would affect their recruiting in KC since 1) we get pretty much whomever we target; 2) their press coverage is going to significantly decline anyway; and 3) I think when people see how much less interesting a non-conference game is, MU’s damage to the rivalry will be even more clear.
Not the biggest Seth Davis fan, but this got a nice laugh out of me.
Withey blocks Rodriguze, then goes outside and beats the piss out of Chuck Norris.
Wow
morans
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Feb 14, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
but seriously, this is one of the dumbest things I've seen
are the boys over at BotC aware of this? Have they found the culprits and suppressed them?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
To be fair
There is some chance that the meaning is “You might literally be in Kansas, but by entering the Octagon (Of Dumb), you are not ‘in’ Kansas anymore. You’re in a weird place with lots of short people and flying monkeys – also, please do not throw water on us or expose that our ultimate leader is not really as powerful as he seems.”
While I don’t approve of that message, it’s not on the same level as “Morans”.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
If a sign needs to be rationalized or explained like that
It has failed.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 14, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm waiting for KSU representatives to say that the sign was manufactured by a KU . . .
. . . fan with the devious intent to make KSU look bad. Just like Missouri fans did with NMT.
Might have been better to say
Not in Lawrence anymore? Not in the Phog anymore? Just bad planning and execution all around.
this sums it up well
Just bad planning and execution all around
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Feb 15, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
My three takeaways from this game
- Tired of caring about officiating.
- TRob really checkd out of this game. When he has foul trouble he plays way too soft.
- Dear HCBS, please teach our guys how to draw charges properly.
It's amazing for how much we depend on TT in games where the rest of the team is in a funk
I’m still not ready to write him off in crunch time, but these two games certainly are worrying.
I don't know that Tyshawn is a choker
as much as he just isn’t one of those “crunch time” guys like Sherron was. He’s an erratic player who misses a lot of free throws. It’s just that those tendencies don’t change for him in clutch situations and his problems become magnified.
Don’t forget he had 20 points and 5 assists in a big road game last night. He also hit two huge threes that put us back in control when K-State was making their big run.
Use the forks
by PenHawk on Feb 14, 2012 5:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think he is just tired
He played 37 min. Maybe he is just out of gas. I hope he and T-Rob get some rest this week.
I always drink the Kool-Aid
Going for #8 in a row!
Not much of a difference in my mind:
I don’t know that Tyshawn is a choker as much as he just isn’t one of those "crunch time" guys
I’m not saying he should be kicked off the team, just making a comment on his game.
I think this is a big exaggeration...
But I do think those misses in Columbia messed him up. If you would have asked me last year to pick someone to shoot game winning free throws for us, I pick Tyshawn. If you asked me at any point this year (prior to Missouri), I pick Tyshawn. But he wanted no part of that last night, which really surprised me. We need to get him fouled late in a game soon and get him some confidence back.
by hiphopopotamus on Feb 14, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Depends on how you define "choker" I guess
When I think of that word I think of someone who wilts under pressure. Tyshawn doesn’t wilt, he just doesn’t seem to have that knack for elevating his game when the heat’s on
Use the forks
He wilted a little bit the other night.
The travel was as bad of a play as he’s had all year. It’s not something I’m worried about with him because he’s been so damn good all year but if we’re up 3 with a couple minutes left, I’m going to be nervous leaning on him.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I'll throw up next time that situation arises
After the MU and KSU games. I’m not even joking.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 15, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
I feel like T-Rob has hit the wall a bit
I hope that the emergence of Withey gives him a chance to dial it back a bit until the MU game.
I agree with this.
I’m not sure where T-Rob has went. But hopefully he finds his way back before the end of the season.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
He didn't have a great game last night but that seemed to be KSU's plan.
He was surrounded every time he touched the ball, tough to do much when that happens.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Really?
Throb would have been Big XII player of the week if it weren’t for Whithey. Last night he had 3 guys hanging on his every move.
I think he’s fine.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I'd say that has more to do with just how good he is, rather than his energy level.
I’m honestly a bit surprised more people haven’t noticed it. I saw it in the Texas game but figured it had more to do with what day it was rather than anything more specific. (6 of 17 points in the first half.)
After Texas he scored 2 of his 17 in the first half against A&M on 1-6 shooting, and IIRC this is also the game he wasn’t getting back on defense which lead to a couple easy A&M baskets (I might be confusing games here, so forgive me if that’s not accurate).
Followed the A&M game up by scoring 4 of 13 in the first half against ISU, also on 1-6 shooting.
Two games after that he scored 6 of his 25 in the first half against MU.
Baylor game he scored 4 of his 15 in the first half on 1-4 shooting.
I realize that points and shooting % don’t show the whole story, but given how he’s finished pretty much every game, I don’t think it’s crazy to think that something has changed in the first half. As KS said, I don’t know if that’s by design or just how things are working out but it’s been pretty obvious to me that something has changed in the first half. I don’t really buy the “defense” excuse because he has to face that same defense in the second half. It could be that the defense is wearing down and that’s what’s leading to his higher numbers, but to my eyes he seems to play with a different intensity after halftime.
Just my low basketball IQ $.02 on the subject.
by MJR on Feb 14, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
After one game?
His previous 4 games leading up to this one he’s averaged 21 points and just under 14 rebounds per game.
And last night they game planned around him and put anywhere from 2-4 guys on him as soon as he caught the ball. This caused him to take the second fewest shots of his season (one shot more than the Howard blowout). And he still almost had another double-double.
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by Triston27 on Feb 14, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
lol
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Feb 14, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I think T-Rob has had six bad first halves in a row
His stats have held up pretty well, but I feel like we’ve been increasingly reliant on Tyshawn and Withey as a baseline while Robinson dominates in stretches and recedes in stretches.
Robinson got a ton of press early in the year for his high motor. I feel like that motor has dropped off and he picks his moments more. Whether that’s because he’s tired (has hit a wall) or because that’s an active choice made by the coaching staff, I don’t know. But I do perceive a definite difference in the way he’s playing the game.
We'll see what happens now that Whithey will get more double teams
whether or not Throbinson’s motor comes back
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Yes.
His first half play has been much poorer than his 2nd half play for weeks now. And I’m also not sure what the reason is. Maybe he is afraid to play really hard in the first half because he may get into foul trouble.
He was a complete non-factor in the first half of the Missouri game, even though he dominated in the 2nd half. We stayed in that game in the first half only because of good 3-PT shooting and because of TT.
In our last 3 games, the first halfs were dominated by TT and Withey. T-Rob didn’t look very good in those games until the 2nd half.
I know teams are double and triple-teaming him, and that has to wear even a stud down eventually. Fortunately Withey has been coming on and that may allow T-Rob to get back on track without hurting us too much. And, maybe even more fortunately, TT has been consistently awesome really since conference play started.
I thought KSU's big men played really well against us this time.
They harassed and frustrated Robinson, blocked almost as many shots as Withey did, out-rebounded us all night, and did all that without really getting that many fouls. If their guards had played half as well as their bigs did, we would have been in serious trouble.
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