Oklahoma Sooners at Kansas Jayhawks Open Game Thread
by Owen on Feb 1, 2012 7:00 PM CST
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Welcome to Rock Chalk Talk and your open game thread for the Kansas Jayhawks vs the Oklahoma Sooners. Hopefully the team isn't looking ahead like I am. At this point I'm ready to sit back and watch some good basketball and step away from the signing day bonanza for a bit. Get a win tonight and start getting ready for Missouri in just a few short days.
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Time to start out like we did against A&M (First 5 minutes anyway)
And finish like we did against Tech.
Score predictions?
KU 71
OU 62
I think we get some of our energy back with some home cooking, but I fear our opponents are witnessing some examples of defenses that have success limiting our weapons.
I think we are due for a good game
Kind of sleepwalked through games lately. I’m expecting us to play well tonight.
KU 74
OU 60
Shit happens when you win championships
PSA
you’re going to want to stop by tomorrow. Couple of goodies about a certain game this Saturday.
Have a good OGT everyone
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There is a basketball god.
Not a single “Home of the CHIEFS” tonight. Students, I…I might shed a tear.
https://twitter.com/#!/PittsJay/status/164891068641456129
Nice passing there.
Great thing to have a big guy that can shoot ft’s like Withey.
Feels good right now.
Feels like we’re re-focused after the loss.
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That was gorgeous.
Very unselfish by EJ.
Yes, T2 having a bit of a rough game so far
after being fantastic the last month or so.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Guys who Bill Self doesn't trust and will likely hurt us on Saturday:
Naadir Tharpe, Kevin Young, Justin Wesley. None can play defense.
Teahan will also be a liability but Self for whatever reasons gives him the benefit of the doubt. I’m thinking it’s just lack of option and at least Teahan might make a three.
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I don't think Wesley and Young are bad defenders,
but they foul an awful lot, which limits their available minutes. They also don’t contribute much on offense, outside the occasional rebound dunk.
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either way...
It feels like Self is kind of at a loss with this rotation.
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Young is pretty brutal
he is athletic as hell but has a really slow first step, semi Tyrel Reed syndrome, and I think he gets lost a lot. I figured out I can get video at the law school so I might drag my ass to the library and do a post or two on it. And uh that’s the only reason I need to sit in that library for long periods of time. Yeah.
But Young needs to play a ton because of his offense. I don’t care if he can’t guard me, he’s athletic and moves the ball well. If only he could shoot.
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he just doesn't seem to have ANY confidence offensively right now.
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that's true
I wonder how much of it is due to his shot not being the greatest
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on some level...
I have to think that Self’s quick trigger plays a factor. I don’t fault Self for that because normally we have the luxury of using the bench, but with limited options I just kind of wish he’d let Young play through things every once in awhile.
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desperately need...
both Young and Teahan to play with an ounce of confidence on the offensive end.
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I have no idea why else you (YOU!!!)
would ever hang out in the library. No idea.
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that was your clever response?
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It's getting late, and I'm starting to get sick.
Also, I didn’t want to reveal her identity on here.
/oopsivesaidtoomuchalready
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Fetch is already in with Turner Baty's mom?
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Too many ugly possessions
We seem lost without T-Rob out there
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2012 8:27 PM CST reply actions
Helluva move by Travis
beating 2 OU players on the break.
How about a real contribution tonight, Wesley?
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2012 8:32 PM CST reply actions
more fouls than rebounds and points combined.
Or something ridiculous like that. He’s not Christian Moody.
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Love what Releford is doing.
A hot streak by him heading into Saturday would be helpful. Just wish we could get good Elijah back too.
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Something about playing OU
certainly agrees with Travis. Another excellent move.
I'm thinking that A&M roadie...
could be more difficult than originally expected.
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remember they're doing this against scott drew
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can't remember the last game I watched
but I thought they looked improved.
Oh wait, that was against Okie Light I think. Still, they are playing better.
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I think they're 7th in efficiency margin in conference play
ahead of the oklahomas and tech. Could be mistaken though. They certainly can defend when they’re going well.
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and I'm probably being overly nitpicky right now.
I just feel like our margin for error is slim now and I REALLY want to win the league this year for obvious reasons.
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oh it's really slim
and every road game is tough, but we can play bad and win at A&M
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I'm not sure we can play bad and win.
Maybe we can play not that great and still win, like we did at Texas.
That was a bad call.
Of course, T-Rob should pretty much never miss a dunk, but still…
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Releford is playing great tonight
Ive never seen what Robinson just tried in a basketball game before
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2012 8:45 PM CST reply actions
Maybe we were spoiled with morningreed
but I just don’t see much to like in Teahan
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
We've been spoiled with a lot of overachiever types.
Reed, Morningstar, Moody…seems like there were some others back in the early Self years. Savvy players that provided some production. I mean I respect Teahan because he’s a huge KU fan and he came here because he loves Kansas, but he is in a rut right now.
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Could not agree more
The biggest limitation two Teahan is that he is so one dimensional. If he is cold shooting the 3, then he has no game.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
His lack of quickness really cripples him.
He’s been in position to get several loose balls tonight and just can’t quite get there.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
great sub by self there for multiple reasons
swoon
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Are we officially in a slump?
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by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2012 8:54 PM CST reply actions
I feel like the bench production is below what we should be able to expect.
We aren’t great by any means but right now it’s completely disgustingly bad.
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I would say yes.
And it couldn’t come at a worse time.
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Yep
We will need stellar performances against mu and bu to pull out wins. Can’t coast through with a shitty game and expect a win.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
all seemed to start sliding after that home Baylor game too.
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I guess the only positive is that we have the ability
something is missing though.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
Similar to a normal Self year, our bench is getting shorter.
The problem is we never had a bench to begin with. Production outside of the starting five is absolutely putrid.
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it's kind of funny
a lot of people publicly wondered in 2010 if we had too much depth and if we wouldn’t be better with a shallower pool of players. I think we’re in the midst of a nice experiment there
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I also think there is a difference between
going 8 deep with talent coming off the bench and going 8 deep because you can’t possibly play your five starters for 40 minutes even though you wish you could.
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Exposed for what we are
When TRob and Taylor aren’t en feugo were very beatable
Shit happens when you win championships
We seem to back in our early season fouling habits
Not good as a long term prognostic. If we stat guarding rather than slapping and bumping we’ll be in much better shape
Why can't they play like that all the time?
Or at least a majority of the time?
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
I think having both Withey and Robinson in there at the same time makes
a big difference.
HA!
Well done, students spelling “smile” behind Weis
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 PM CST reply actions
Withey with the lefty hook?
Wow. First the right, then the left. Very nice move.
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And now some great defense.
Followed up by a nice Withey basket.
Withey making hookshots with both hands.
I wonder who our big man coach is?
Mind explaining how to do that font?
I can never figure it out
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Awesome
My lame attempt is the blockquoted paragraph in the formatting guide.
I wear women's underwear
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Put these @ on either side of your sarc comment.
Doesn’t work on the title line though.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Could see that lob-dunk coming.
Great hustle by Withey to keep possession.
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hopefully good elijah and teahan show up saturday if we're going to see that much zone
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Withey and-one!
Dare I say, his post game is starting to look Aldrich-esque???
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his similarity scores list him
I smell a post idea
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also
I was getting ready to say he was better than Cole (damn recency bias) and then I looked at the numbers and holy balls Cole Aldrich was good
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Cole's sophomore season was rediculous
Good junior year too but that season, he was just a menace on both ends of the floor. He and Collins really carried that team, and carried is putting it lightly.
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They're becoming more and more similar, at least to my eye.
Withey still doesn’t have the top-o-the-key jumper that Aldrich had, but both are very good foul shooters, excellent shot-blockers, and have decent post-moves. Did Cole have that hook shot?
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Yeah, and it was a pretty good little baby hook too
My only objection to the comparison is that WIthey plays next to TRob, while Cole played next to freshman Morri his sophomore year. Big difference to me.
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yeah he did have a bit more to do
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Withey showing some strength on that shot.
Nice to see.
Yea, that was kinda iffy
and rather dangerous also.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
That call could've gone either way, looks like,
but props to the kid for being willing to get between T-Rob and the rim.
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Man, TT went hard there
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM CST reply actions
Yes, both T2 & T-Rob
taking very hard falls within a few possessions. ouch.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Well then.
Go ahead and make that shot while standing in Nebraska.
I wouldn't say it eliminates Baylor
but it comes pretty close
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@Baylor one of the toughest environments..
Har, har…seriously? WTF do these announcers do just pull stuff out of their asses?
Two great Tweets from Fake Jeff Withey tonight
“If you “wooo” during the Rock Chalk chant, you’re letting the terrorists win #stopthewoo"
“Each time you say “Home of the Chiefs” during the nat anthem, a Jayhawk loses its wings. Leave this for the #MizzoucheBags across state line."
If you’re not following this guy you’re missing out on some genius comments.
by De-Freeze on Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
i actually don't mind that play by Teahan even if he airballs it.
looks like TRob, Withey and Releford were in the best positions to get it
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That was slick.
Withey to Travis for the dunk.
What was the halftime score again? 34-31?
Not a bad 12 minute stretch.
OU seems to crash the O boards so much
that once we got the break started it became a dunkapalooza.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Good job by Releford there
keeping possession without elbowing an OU player and getting a stupid flagrant-1 foul.
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Player. Of. The. Year.
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 1, 2012 9:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I haven't seen a player T-Rob's size do that
since Durant and Griffin, really. Am I forgetting anybody else? Maybe Marcus last year, but Marcus isn’t particularly comparable to T-Rob.
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merv
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 1, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Damn I knew I would mess something up after a bottle of wine
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
I missed an exclamation point.
I feel shame.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 1, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Tharpe might turn it over per minute more than anyone
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
we have a scholarship free, right?
one of the best prospects in the country just reclassified to 2012.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nerlens-Noel-114334
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don't think he's coming here...
didn’t even list us on his visits.
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he hasnt visited anywhere has he
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or are you talking about the tweet
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just announced where he was visiting...
we aren’t on the list.
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gotcha
i missed the tweet until after i commented
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Baylor and Missouri both survive road scares
due to horrific last possession execution by their opponent.
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I'm excited for my photoshop extravaganza tomorrow
A few cross the line, but this is Missouri we are talking about #hypingownposts
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i have a post with a similar theme going up an hour after yours
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We won't get to do it after this year
Might as well focus all our hate on our new number one rival.
KState sucks!!!!!!!!!! I sincerely dislike them!!!!!! Its still growing on me, but their hatred/obsession with us will make it easier.
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 1, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
i honestly can't do it
they’re purple, they’re not very good, they have dumb fans, etc. etc. but whatever. It’s just not missouri.
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We still have a ton of history with them
We own both in Basketball, sure. Self has lost to them THREE TIMES (which is a ton for him ZOMG). And nothing is funnier than their reaction when they storm into Lawrence actually thinking they have a chance (see this season), get murdered (like they do every year in Lawrence) and then bitch about it.
Problem is, I think Martin has taken that team as far as he can. Without a legitimate star (Clemente, Pullen, Beaseley) his teams don’t make the dance (they are borderline right now with a lot of tough games left).
He has taken KSU from laughingstock (Woolridge in a neck brace…) into a top 5 Big 12 program. I commend him for that, certainly no small feat at all. I just don’t see them ever getting past that. Until he shows me he can win without someone who is possibly the best player in the league (or at least top 3). Especially in a league with Kansas (always going to be the best, not backing down from that statement until we don’t win the league), Texas (down at the moment, will be back) and several other teams similar to KSU.
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
lolololololol
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 1, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
The only one I kinda felt bad about makes fun of a 100 year old woman
But she was a MU fan
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 1, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
I watched some of the Thunder game when ours had timeouts and sech
Nick Collison is a gamer. Dude gets so many scrappy offensive boards, sets the best pics, etc. He is so undervalued in the NBA, but if the Thunder won it all he would get the “James Posey X Factor” type love that… James Posey got when the Celtics won it all.
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84-62
I’ll take it.
This game really depicted what KU is all about. At times, we look like a completely average team. Other times, we look like a team that can run to the Final 4.
Team really reminds me of 2004-2005. No depth, good, experienced starting five, at times looked unstoppable (wins against Kentucky, Texas, Oklahoma State) at times looked like poo (Iowa State, the tournament, Villanova)
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Good win.
Gonna need a much better first half Saturday.
I feel like the game might be a bit out of our hands
Mizzou is going to jack a gajillion threes. If they are hot, we lose. If they are cold, we win. I think it might be as simple as that.
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by Andrew Clark on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
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