Kansas Jayhawk News and Notes 1.6.12
by Owen on Jan 6, 2012 2:00 AM CST
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NCAA College Basketball Player of the Year - CBSSports.com
I'd love to see Thomas Robinson continue to play at a "Player of the Year" level.
Dick Vitale picks his top midseason awards candidates - ESPN
More player of the year talk picking up steam for Thomas Robinson.
Recap: It's been a long time since KSU's defensive rebounding was this bad | The Newell Post | KUsports.com
Love the not so subtle jab at KSU for the crappy rebounding effort.
Releford happy to set defensive tone for KU | KUsports.com
More after Releford's big night.
Mario Chalmers unleashes monster performance in 3OT victory | 'Hawks in the NBA | KUsports.com
Damn...a couple weeks ago I saw some article about some newbie taking Mario's minutes. Looks like he decided he wanted them back.
Kansas Football
Defensive Tackle/Future Jayhawk, Tyler Holmes
Defensive tackle from down in Texas committed last night. That makes three in the class, two from the JUCO level. Seems like we're addressing a need, now we just need to develop the talent.
Recruits reflect faith in Weis | KUsports.com
I love the honeymoon phase, I just hope we can convert it to W's.
College Football
Some AP Voters Laying Groundwork for Split National Title - Team Speed Kills
I agree with this. LSU won the regular season SEC, beat Bama, beat Oregon and anyone else they played. That's impressive and I hate to see one game diminish that especially since it is against a team they already beat.
Big 12 Football
Oklahoma Sooners QB Landry Jones to return for senior season - ESPN
Draft stock plummeted starting right about the time that he played Kansas. Good move for Jones, it will be interesting to see how much Stoops continues to use Jones and how much he uses Blake Bell.
College Football
Bill O'Brien agrees to be Penn State Nittany Lions coach, sources say - ESPN
Well...here we go.
SEC's Mike Slive expects 'meaningful discussion' about making BCS plus-1 - ESPN
For as much as people dog the SEC for being favored by the BCS, ESPN etc. They sure do seem to be at the forefront of pressing for a playoff or +1 system.
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Anyone see coach of the year somewhere outside of the Big12?
Seems like whatever team lands on top has a very nice chance of having their coach get the nod. Vitale has 2 on his list.
Also, saw this rcjh bird come up in a few places and it made me laugh – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb7WNKmILZE
JT3 will definitely be in the discussion
I think Dave Rice (UNLV) will get some talk. The guy at Georgia State deserves some consideration, but I doubt he’ll get it. However, if things stay as they are, it’s Tom Crean’s to lose.
If Indiana does anything remotely respectable in the tournament
then Crean will be the only name getting seriously considered.
LSU won in OT after Bama outgained them but missed 4 FGs
I felt at the time that Bama looked like the better team, but I also think that it’s ridiculous that the people who choose our national champion are the same people who prove their idiocy (or lack of interest) every week with their poll votes. If we’re not going to settle it on the field, give it to a committee of people who can sit around and discuss with access to all the relevant numbers.
On a related note, there’s a tendency among some news organizations to only credit us with 3 national championships, ignoring the ones that weren’t settled in the tournament. I wonder if they’ll start ignoring all of Oklahoma’s and Alabama’s once we finally get a BCS playoff.
I think
if Bama wins, it should be a split-3-ways championship. OSU/LSU/Bama, since the current system failed to allow the teams playing to select the champion. If LSU wins, they are obviously the champion.
Pay heed...
Regarding the 3 National Championships
It’s sort of apples and oranges. Not all schools claim Helms Championships. Here is a list of schools that won a Helms championship pre NCAA tourny in 1939:
Yale (2)
Minnesota (2)
Columbia (3)
Dartmouth (1)
Chicago (3)
St. Johns (1)
Navy (1)
Penn (2)
Princeton (1)
Kentucky (1)
NYU (1)
Interesting, it appears mostly be to Ivy League Schools. The outliers are Kentuckey and Minnesota.
Here’s a list of schools that DO claim the Helms Championship pre-1939
Wisconsin (3)
Illinois (1)
Washington State (1)
Syracuse (2)
Kansas (2)
North Carolina
Notre Dame (2)
Pittsburgh (2)
Montana St. (1)
Northwestern (1)
Purdue (1)
Wyoming (1)
Xavier (1)
Temple (1)
Montana St. raises an eyebrow here. What is interesting is clearly there are some big schools on this list (e.g. Kansas, Syracuse, Carolina) why wouldn’t Kentucky and Minnesota make a claim?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
The first part should read:
Here is a list of schools that won a Helms championship pre NCAA tourny in 1939 that do not claim them in their records:
Yale (2)
Minnesota (2)
Columbia (3)
Dartmouth (1)
Chicago (3)
St. Johns (1)
Navy (1)
Penn (2)
Princeton (1)
Kentucky (1)
NYU (1)
Interesting, it appears mostly be to Ivy League Schools. The outliers are Kentuckey and Minnesota.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Knowing Kentucky
they’ll start claiming it when it matters- ie someone catches them at 7. As of right now they’re #2 behind UCLA’s 11 so an extra one wouldn’t mean anything. If Carolina reels off 2 in a row (or maybe even just 1 to tie them including the Helms), Kentucky will start claiming them. Just like the banner for the #1 recruiting class, Kentucky is definitely not ‘above’ anything.
Another KU-KSU wrap-up, this one from basketball prospectus
They always do good work (wish I could say the same for SI):
Rooting for KSU tonight.
Should be a great atmosphere if the Jerry-dome doesn’t kill it. Arkansas will travel and K-State will travel. Hope KSU’s defense can hold enough.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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I can't do it.
I respect what Bill Snyder has been able to do and I think he’s a great coach with players that are bought in. But Kansas State winning tonight can only negatively impact Kansas football so I can’t do it.
Woooooooooo, Pig ! Sooie!
Woooooooooo, Pig ! Sooie!
Woooooooooo, Pig ! Sooie!
Razorbacks!
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by Owen on Jan 6, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, if Charlie Weis is worth what he's getting paid then it shouldn't matter.
At least that’s how I see it.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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by Warden11 on Jan 6, 2012 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll be rooting for KSU tonight
although I still won’t watch it (boycott the bowls!!!).
The better KSU football is, the better KU will forced to become.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
I too will be rooting for KSU tonight
Tho I have caught little bits of a couple bowls so far (guilty). I still won’t watch a second of the SEC championship tho. And I like your mindset on KSU being better, it just makes our climb to the top even more meaningful.
Pay heed...
pretty much.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I work for a Wall St firm
so that may have a double meaning…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
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Was an image of a guy’s T-shirt with KU and Ark logos that said “Real Men Don’t Wear Purple” and “Rock Chalk Sooie!”
forward it to me and I'll see if I can post it.
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The Pac-12 is a trainwreck
In all 6 games last night, the higher ranked (according to kenpom or sagarin) team lost. After the awful non-conference season (Sagarin had them as the 8th-best conference), if the top teams don’t separate themselves, they’re looking at only getting the automatic bid. How pathetic would a one-bid “major” conference be?
How good would we be
if Turner decided to play his one year here instead of the trainwreck in Tuscon. Well assuming he could stay on the team for an entire season of course.
We've lost a couple big time recruits to Arizona
I think Miller is a good coach, but I wouldn’t mind a couple crummy years like this to take them down a peg as a competitor for recruits.
I'm a little surprised at Az's...
issues this year. I thought they would have a pretty solid team. At the moment they do look like a bubble tourney team but a lot of that has to do with a lack of an inside presence. The class next year should help with that.
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Yep, wouldn't mind having Chol either...
A little backslide at Arizona wouldn’t break my heart, particularly with Crean turning the corner at Indiana.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 6, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions
Watching Arizona
I’m not sure Chol would see any minutes here. He looks like a (much) less polished Kevin Young. We needed a big, but Chol wasn’t it.
I still wouldn't mind getting him under Danny's wing
We don’t need greatness this year, but I’m sure Danny could have him making major contributions by next year.
Agreed
just that he’s a giant prospect. Likely a giant upside as well though I’m not seeing that any more than I see it in Young (though Young only has 2 years to reach it).
The help we need this year
is another DJ not another Mouleye.
That's nuts...
Chol is as good or better than Darnell at this point.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 6, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Not from what I've seen
are you saying DJ as a freshman? In my world I get to recruit DJ as a senior.
DJ as a freshman, of course
Without the recruiting violations, hopefully
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 6, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
He's also listed at 6-9
he’s not. He is a bit stronger than Young probably but makes up for it in a general lack of understanding of how to move his limbs.
Get the torrent of the game against UCLA last
night. Watch the Wear twins in both matchups. Granted Chol wasn’t the only problem as far as interior defense for the Cats but from what I saw he was definitely not part of the solution.
Sorry that was for Hip
also realize that UCLA didn’t even have their best big man inside and still just killed Arizona in the paint.
I'm on the other side of this completely...
Young is definitely more polished, but Chol is at the very least a MUCH stronger version of Justin Wesley. He wouldn’t be our savior, but he would be logging minutes as a defender.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 6, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
That's the thing
he’s been a bad defender because he can’t move his feet. He’s good for rebounds and maybe just a general interior presence but would single handedly put the other team in the bonus, even moreso playing against our schedule.
If Turner does leave after this year, their backcourt might be as bad next year as their frontcourt is this year
Bad frontcourts can be worked around, but the best big man in the world is no good if you don’t have guards that can get him the ball.
That’s my hope, anyway
From what I understand
Turner won’t be anywhere near eligible for year 2 and has no plans to find out.
If that's true, it's odd the Arizona went so heavy on the bigs in this year's class
They already knew they were losing one starting guard (Kyle Fogg). If they’re expecting to lose Turner too, it’s odd that they used 3 of their 4 scholarships on big men
Miller seems to be
recruiting whoever he can at this point. Not a bad strategy when you first get somewhere and one Self employed early on as well. Transfers and kids not living up to expectations are sure to happen so there’s always a scholarship for a need.
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