Kansas Jayhawks at Iowa St. Cyclones Open Game Thread
by Owen on Jan 28, 2012 11:00 AM CST
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Welcome to Rock Chalk Talk and your open game thread for the Kansas Jayhawks vs the Iowa State Cyclones. Two weeks to the day since the last meeting. Since that time the Jayhawks have built a two game lead in the conference and the Cyclones are sitting tied for 5th. Both teams have a lot to play for. Iowa State is looking for revenge and a big boost to their tournament resume. Kansas is looking to dodge the Big 12 road bug once again and begin a key stretch in the Big 12 title hunt on a positive note.
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Any predictions
On what Royce Whites puts up on us today?
I think
he’s going to be limited now that we know where to focus our defense. Of course if others are hitting their shots…
by Kenwi Arnason on Jan 28, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Another Question
who else will put up stats against us?
If ISU is going to win...
I think Christopherson will be a guy that could have a big game.
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Yeah its pretty ridiculous
It seems like everyone thinks that they can act like a 14 year-old on those boards. I am so appreciative that the entire SBnation fanbase seems to be a lot more reasonable than what you find at the LJworld website, ESPN, etc.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Add on
Wichita Eagle, and Kansas City Star, and i haven’t even been the the U.S. in five years
Why does St Johns agree to this game against Duke every year?
They’re like a battered spouse or something
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 12:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Good question.
It’s not like they need a SOS bump but I guess it does guarantee them ESPN time.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
This.
And, they did win last year and got a huge amount of press for it.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Cookie kids clearly overcompensating today after getting called out this week
I would hate being forced to do group stuff like that allllll game
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 12:57 PM CST reply actions
Just let this game end.
I love college basketball but the drag at the end of games really tests my limits at times.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
If Duke Loses
It’s worth it.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 28, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
If Austin Rivers had come to Kansas, he and Tyshawn would have had a brawl at center court at some point
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 1:05 PM CST reply actions
The bank is open in Ames
For Jeff Withey
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:08 PM CST reply actions
Goddamn Scott Christopherson is a sick shooter
Tyshawn has turned into a pretty good one himself, though.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:09 PM CST reply actions
It is on ESPN 3,
if your cable system lets you get it. Not that you’re missing much so far. We look rather sluggish.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, that was a terrible defensive effort that possession.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Sucks
T-Rob had the rebound and somehow let Ejim take it away from him.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Our defense is getting cut up right now
Hopefully we can shore up the penetration soon.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:12 PM CST reply actions
Why do we need to spend 60 seconds watching players shake hands?
And then follow that up by looking at scores?
Funny that they had to give us the starting lineups
After the first media timeout. Makes sense, but if you’d been watching the game on ESPN3 it was interesting.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:18 PM CST reply actions
Cue ISU grabbing an offensive rebound
against 3 Jayhawks. Ouch.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Our offense is terrible
And is killing our defense, our half-court defense has been decent but they are getting us out of position in transition and then exacerbating it by driving and passing.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Agree with the O being awful.
We’re fumbling it away underneath the basket so badly it’s letting ISU burn us on the turnover.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Goodness TT.
I hope that was blocked and I just didn’t see it.
At least ISU hasn't created too much separation yet.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Big 3 by Travis.
We’re damn lucky we’re not down more as haphazardly as we’ve played so far.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:21 PM CST reply actions
Yep.
ISU can score faster than I can type.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'm At Work
So I can’t really watch closely, but I was thinking the same thing.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 28, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
At some point Teahan...
has played himself out of the rotation. Not sure why Bill Self continues to stick with him. He’s not Morningstar or Reed.
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There's no one else?
I mean, I think we can play Ty, EJ, and Trav the rest of the game, but we can’t do that every game. Tharpe is way too turnover prone, and Merv is likely even more terrible on D than Conner.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Not having McLemore this season was a huge blow
Self has said so himself many times
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 28, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
I still think Young could play the 3 decently for a few minutes here and there.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
You think he gets burned on defense now?
I would anticipate that working out terribly.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Possibly but getting him away from the basket could actually help.
He gets pushed so low defensively on the blocks that he doesn’t have a chance. That wouldn’t happen against 3’s, add in Withey/T-Rob/Wesley for help against penetration and I don’t think it’d be horrible.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Watching Teahan play
may have health problems
Jesus
will Teahan ever do anything right?
Get him out of there.
I don’t care if Ty and EJ have to play the rest of the game, we may have to do it if we want to win.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:23 PM CST reply actions
Ugh. EJ with a wide open 3
and turns it over trying to force it to T-Rob. He seems to be afraid to shoot today.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:29 PM CST reply actions
He just hit one
And we needed it. I’m sure he knows he took too many shots last game, though.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
He Had No
Angle to speak of.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 28, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Get it down to 3, only to turn the ball over and let them get a 3 point play on the other end.
Not going to win like that.
Our bench isn't just untalented
Its a full-blown liability. Whatever happened to the Kevin Young that played against Ohio State?
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 1:29 PM CST reply actions
It might hurt us in the short term,
because he can struggle mightily at times, but I’d like to see Young get 15-20 minutes a game consistently. Might get him comfortable enough so he can really help us later in the year.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
I love Hilton
prob 2nd best environment in the Big 12, but man they aren’t very smart sometimes. Boos don’t have any power if you boo after every play.
love leaving tyshawn in
also love that they waited so long to touch it on that over and back
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That was a fortunate call.
Avoid a foul on T-Rob & pick one up on White.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions
I can't believe he made that shot
That was definitely a circus-shot
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Is it matchup with Iowa State? I mean we came out and struggled with them at home so we shouldn’t be overlooking them. I get that they are probably amped up but it still feels like we’re very out of sync.
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Its not that we aren't ready to play
So much as Iowa State is playing really well on both ends and we haven’t been in a real road environment yet this year.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
They're a good team
playing a good team on the road and I wouldn’t expect to dominate.
And I know the numbers say otherwise but I still think we're way overrated.
Maybe not overrated but Taylor and Robinson have to play very well for us to be very good. If that doesn’t happen, it’s always going to be a struggle.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Exactly.
And foul trouble for either of those guys will kill us.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
I also think there is a clear difference in energy between the two teams
ISU seems to be running offensive sets and are flying all over the court when they are playing D. Def feeding off their crowd.
Yeah that was weak.
It wasn’t great defense, but it wasn’t a foul.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Got to start rebounding the ball better.
They’re killing us on the glass.
Still hanging around though.
And I’ll take them leaving Young open all day.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I wish Young would just take that shot though.
Definitely like that we’re keeping it close enough.
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Yeah, hesitated.
He’s still a little gunshy about his role it seems. I’d hoped the Ohio State game would have cleared that up but it didn’t work.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
man these iowa state boos are getting annoying
by playswithsquirrels on Jan 28, 2012 1:40 PM CST reply actions
Those looks need to fall for T-Rob or it's going to be a very long day.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Yes, we finally work it inside competently
and he misses a 3 footer.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
Holy. Shit.
How could you air all a free throw? Just aren’t mentally in this game at all
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 1:43 PM CST reply actions
Withey taking control a little bit.
By far the biggest surprise for me this year.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
He can be dominant
Most teams don’t have true centers, and he is definitely capable of being a center, at least offensively.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Shoots 87% from the line as well.
Wonder if he has any sort of jumper.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
HS Big men...
listen to Franschilla!!!! This is an offense and program tailor made for big men.
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Looks like we woke up a little bit.
Gotta keep this going into half.
And here we go, as bad as it has been and it's tied.
Makes me feel good.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Fred was really going at Allen at the TO
really pushing him around. Good thing he’s the Mayor
How the hell did we tie this up?
If we can have a decent stretch the next 4 minutes it will be huge.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:47 PM CST reply actions
Ty wanted to screw that up
But it was just too open
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 1:47 PM CST reply actions
T Rob
they keep within 4 if he doesn’t turn on in the next half
With the evolution of Withey as a post option
Who would have thought at the beginning of the season that we would be more capable of withstanding T-Rob’s foul trouble than Ty’s?
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
The Baylor game in Waco looks like an 80’s music video with all that neon green in the stands.
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just saw the highlights of the game
that neon is hurting my eyes.
by playswithsquirrels on Jan 28, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
That went from blundering
to a beautiful basket.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions
Fairly generous on the travel call...
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I was screaming it before the call came so I don't know about that..
by rockchalk1187 on Jan 28, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
I just say generous because Withey was doing a little shoving.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Ty was been controlling the game ever since his 2nd foul
8pts, 5 asts, 2 stls and 1 TO is exactly what we want.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:56 PM CST reply actions
*was been?
What the hell? I meant was.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that was a fuck of a half
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 1:58 PM CST reply actions
Being down 3
Is a small miracle. Being on the road in a good environment, its not a bad outcome. Although getting there was not pretty.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't think I'd ever say this
but tyshawn is our most composed player right now
We would be so lost without him.
I don’t even want to think about it.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
Owen, how's the weather been out there this year?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
easy winter so far.
Mountain have been hurting for snow but we’ve had a couple of good storms in the last week that are helping.
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Wondered if the resorts were hurting.
I’m loving it here.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Insanely good.
Make-up for the last couple of years.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
I thought they called Goaltending
WV/Syr. I swear I heard the whistle.
Bizarre. Awful call, though WVU still has the ball.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Wonder the ref missed it, if he was on the other side it'd be a tough call but he was on that side.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
There was an official
in the camera view that could definitely have seen it.
The one under the basket should be watching contact and the shooter.
The “C”/middle man is the one who has the call and should have a clear line of sight. I like him missing it though because a call that big will bring about more articles on officiating and I love that.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
WfVU got screwed right there
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 2:03 PM CST reply actions
Well.
If we lose, hopefully we won’t lose like that.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty funny that they've got Scott Drew
miked up for his comments in the Texas Baylor game.
Guess because of his brilliant coaching skills.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:15 PM CST reply actions
Couldn't ask for a better start to the half.
3 easy baskets and making ISU take tough shots.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:19 PM CST reply actions
Looks like Baylor is going to hold on. Texas is going to get over the hump at some point. Brown just has to do too much for them at times. Maybe Monday w/Missouri in town?
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One can only hope
If they could have stolen both of those games it would have been huge for us (obvious)
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
Great defense followed up by a nice shot.
Just what we’ve been missing all game.
I was just going to say that that was a good foul. Then the guy miraculously makes two.
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Yes, I definitely prefer fouling White
rather than the little white guy that shoots 92% from the line. Just a bad break he made both.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
meanwhile
towson is up 6 midway through the 2nd half.
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Damn, letting the crowd stay in it.
Was hoping the run would knock them out of the game.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I'm impressed with ISU's ability to withstand the run
I was kind of thinking that they’d have a bunch of headcases with all these transfers, but they seem to be pretty mentally tough.
They’re going to be good in future years.
I posted something about Robinson vs. Collison earlier this week
As much as I’m enjoying Robinson’s success this year, I still feel like he’s nowhere close to the player Nick Collison was in college.
I know Collison had four years and got to start for 2 or 3 of those years, but I also think it reflects a bit on how college basketball has been affected by players leaving early. I feel like it took a much better game to be a dominant power forward back then.
Or am I just looking back at my college years with rose-colored glasses?
Collison was definitely a mcuh more complete player.
He did play a lot right from the start though.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
I meant more the idea that Robinson is such a favorite for POY with a game that's weaker than Collison's
It made me realize how much the game has changed.
Yes, surprising too since he loves to block shots.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
They will start hitting 3's again.
We really should be building more lead while they are cold.
We seem to have lost mental focus
This makes me worried for the tournament.
Man our offense has gone dormant here lately.
Questions, Comments? email me at denverjhawk@hotmail.com
We're not working for good shots
Just like the first five or six minutes of the game.
And the first five or six minutes of the A&M game.
Aaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be nice if Teahan could make the wide open 3’s.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:33 PM CST reply actions
Or complete passes
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
On Cue
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jan 28, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Not an error!
He never touched it! That was a brain dead play on both T2 & Teahan.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
His main talent is fouling, Teahan's is shooting threes.
At least Wesley can execute his talent in games.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
That was a pretty stupid foul
If you fall to the ground and try to keep your man from getting a rebound by holding on to his waistband, the refs are going to see that every time.
Wesley well on his way to fouling out in under five minutes.
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I wonder what Bob Knight would think
Of our depth today….
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Painfully obvious how bad it is.
Teahan and Wesley are not high level d1 players at all.
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That's a little tough to find fault with.
They’re bricking their 3’s so bad they’re getting lucky breaks.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
yeah not finding fault...
just noting that luck has not been on our side with those.
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I really do not want this game to come down to the last shot
Not with Christopherson on their team
That seemed a halfass foul call on Withey,
though the replay wasn’t very good.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:45 PM CST reply actions
He bent at the waist
But from the camera angle, it was hard to tell if he bent forward or bent sideways.
They really do not respect Young's shot at all
That was a wide open 15 footer, and they just gave it to him.
Yeah it was pretty obvious that they were told to not even guard him except in the lane
You can tell its messing with his head.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
Coach's watch today
Fannnntastic
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 2:47 PM CST reply actions
woo looks like towson is gonna do it
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They're going to go on a winning streak and make the tourney.
You heard it here first.
what's the deal w/Towson?
are they playing someone good? Have they not won in a million years? I must be missing something here.
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41 game losing streak or something like that
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aldon smith
arrested for dui. pinkel sure coaches them up!
by playswithsquirrels on Jan 28, 2012 2:49 PM CST reply actions
Hilton Coliseum looks packed
We really get every team’s best shot. I like being the best, but I wouldn’t mind sneaking past an opponent every now and again.
Hard to believe this game is tied
Our offense has been putrid this half.
Ah that's no good when those shots fall.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
At what point do announcers top talking about how reliable of a shooter Teahan is. Just because he is white and not all that talented relatively speaking, doesn’t mean he is a good shooter automatically.
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When they look at his stats and see that he's 5-24 since the K-State game.
by MJR on Jan 28, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I just looked at statsheet and was surprised to see EJ's shot 111 threes already.
Making 28% of them.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I don't believe in slumps
It’s just random variation, and he’s still a good 3-pt shooter on the year
Eh, I definitely believe in slumps.
There are times when the shot doesn’t feel right or the head’s not right, that’s not just random variation.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
He's not a bad 3-point shooter
His eFG behind the arc is over 54%
eFG% takes into account that 3 pointers are worth more
So you multiply the 3 FG% by 1.5 to get eFG%
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
except most of his shots that he makes
come in garbage time against bad opponents. he is virtually incapable of making them when they count, and has morphed into a terribly defending, bad pass prone machine
by rockchalk1187 on Jan 28, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
I looked it up earlier this season, and that's definitively not true
He only has one game where he’s had a made 3-pointer in the last 10:00 of a game against a non-top 25 opponent.
The perception that he does is bizarre to me.
Regardless
he is a liability. His shooting absolutely does not make up for the gaping hole in our team that he creates when he’s on the floor. He would need to be a lights out shooter to make up for it.
by rockchalk1187 on Jan 28, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with that
We have no useful depth.
But I don’t understand people making him out to be a worse or less consequential 3-point shooter than he is. He’s been a big player for us in some big games this year.
And there really is nobody else.
He is what he is. When he’s in, he takes open shots. On a top 10 team, he’s playing way too many minutes but I’m still not sold this is a top 10 team.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
yep
36% when that is your only role on the team isn’t good enough.
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by fetch9 on Jan 28, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Crap. White takes an idiotic 3-pointer,
and we can’t get the board.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 2:59 PM CST reply actions
Getting out-rebounded by 15 this game
10 to 3 on offensive boards.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Was that a double dribble or did it just look odd?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
i always force myself to watch the court rush
stings in the beginning, but it makes me feel better because I know this will wake us up for the rest of our brutal schedule
Welp…they executed on offense down the stretch and we’ve been bad most of the day. Doesn’t kill us but it is a little frustrating to play so poorly and still have had a shot late. This game really could have helped cement our positioning, just wasn’t happening and I think everyone was calling for it.
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That guy was 3 of 27 on 3-pt attempts?
Definitely not our game.
Iowa State didn't even plat particularly well today
Bad bad loss
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 28, 2012 3:06 PM CST reply actions
You're right. They haven't shot lights out.
Turned the ball over. Just got the loose balls.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Definitely missed a chance
to take complete control of the conference.
by hunter s. royal on Jan 28, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
That's the most frustrating part.
Been worried about this game since the one in Lawrence, but I thought we’d come out better than we did knowing that we had a shot to really take control of the conference.
T-Rob didn't have it
And we key off of him.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
30+ minutes a game finally getting to him?
He hasn’t been his super-human self these last few games. Seems like he gets his averages, but the domination doesn’t seem to be there.
His minutes are also rough.
Teams are beating him up below the basket, he’s got to be a little worn down.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Delayed reaction to his the anniversary of his mom's and grandparent's deaths?
Don’t know, but I’m sure he’ll pick up his play next game.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
I thought they played pretty well
Their defense was good, and they certainly worked hard.
I think our defense deserves credit for their poor shooting.
This game makes me appreciate how important it is to keep Withey our of foul trouble
Those two moving screen fouls were really pivotal, I feel.
Good point, his absence allowed White to really go to work inside.
I’m still not sure of those two moving screen calls BTW.
This game really reinforced our lack of depth
Young showed some flashes earlier in the season, but there’s nobody off our bench I have any confidence in at this point. When any of the starters get in foul trouble, there’s a huge drop off.
I disagree.
They turned it over, but they played great D most of the game and out-rebounded us by a ton. Tough to win on the road, and we all knew that this was going to be a really tough game.
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Ty with 16 points, 10 assists, 2 steals
Everyone else is not worth talking about.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 3:10 PM CST reply actions
Well.
Lets beat the shit out of OU Wednesday
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 28, 2012 3:13 PM CST reply actions
Damn
we have to play ISU in Ames next. I was hoping you guys would give them another loss before then.
He put in Merv, Tharpe, and Junemann when ISU shot FT's with 15 seconds to go.
Then when we got the ball, he had all 5 guys basically go straight for the bench, and the only one still doing anything was Tharpe (I think it was him) and that’s because he had the ball. All of our guys were within a few feet of the sideline/bench area at the end.
Zero bench help.
2 baskets, 2 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist from the bench. Without Robinson and Taylor being All-American level, that’s enough to keep the team from being good.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Fetch did some good work earlier in the year on the importance of the bench
I feel like it showed that depth wasn’t that important.
Fetch, do you still have any of that data that you could compare our poor depth to previous good teams?
It might not be over the course of a season but I'd argue it is very important in a single game.
The difference being foul trouble in a game can force the bench on the court.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Oh, I definitely agree that it made a difference this game
I’d also think it would wear a team down over the season.
And Owen's a machine with the post game:
http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2012/1/28/2754916/iowa-state-deals-kansas-their-first-big-12-loss
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