Kansas Jayhawk News and Notes 1.26.12
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Teahan working to correct three-point woes | KUsports.com
Yes please. Not sure what happened here but this was supposed to be what he brought to the table. It's sporadic at best.
Kansas Women's Basketball
Dynamite Davis: KU’s No. 21 blows out 21st-ranked Texas Tech | KUsports.com
Big win for the women's team. Still working toward a national ranking, this helps.
Kansas women on track for tourney appearance | KUsports.com
This would be an exciting development. It's been awhile.
Big12
Oklahoma State upsets No. 2 Missouri 79-72 - KansasCity.com
This is pretty big at the moment. Saturday's game presents a huge opportunity. Take care of business in Ames, hold serve against Oklahoma at home and we head to Columbia at 9-0 with a 2 game lead half way through the conference season. Sounds great, but boy does that game in Ames on Saturday worry me.
Big 12 Expansion: Louisville, BYU Could Follow West Virginia, According To Report - SBNation.com
I'd be good with both of these additions myself. I wonder how Jake Heaps would feel about the possibility of playing his former school.
Big 12 Conference Reopens Expansion Talk - Players - The Chronicle of Higher Education
and more on expansion
College Football
Which Seven College Football Bowl Games Should Be Done Away With? - SBNation.com
This would raise the stakes.
Guys Who Used To Play Football
Brock Berglund, former Kansas, Valor Christian QB, assault charges dismissed | — The Denver Post
Looks like the court case was just now actually resolved.
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And Mizzou lost to Oklahoma State!
The poster formerly known as DCJayhawk0208
by PDXJayhawk on Jan 26, 2012 2:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Major Conference Teams in the KP top 25:
PAC-12: 1/12
Big East: 3/16
SEC: 3/12
B1G Ten: 4/12
ACC: 4/12
Big 12: 5/10
Smallest major conference, most schools in top 25. Not bad for what was supposed to be a down year.
To be fair,
this has to be considered a down year for college basketball as a whole. But still, quite the statement for our conference.
Criticize FHOFNCHCBS at your own risk...
Down year?
Interesting that it would be considered a down year when so many top players choose not to enter the draft last year b/c of the NBA labor issues. That is, except for the Big12, where most of UT & KU left.
Guessing:
KU, MU, KSU, Baylor, and Iowa State?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I'm pretty big on Texas right now
What they’re doing despite J’covan Brown’s slump is impressive
I don't think they're a tourney team...
but I’m pretty sure they’re the top 25 team sax was referring to. I expect us to get 4 in the tourney unless ISU makes a run.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 26, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
I like the top 3 to make at least the Sweet 16 (unless MU runs into a juggernaught of a big, or Baylor plays lazy)
K-State maybe not, but if the Cats get a good draw and don’t derp it up for 10 minutes as they’re wont to do, I think all the top 4 have a really good shot at Sweet 16+.
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Iowa State is #44, I'm surprised they're so low, but I guess they do have some lousy losses in non-con
- KU
- MU (I don’t know if this includes last night’s upset or not)
- Baylor
- K-State
- UT
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. - TT. Yikes.
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As of today, I see it like this
1.
2. MU and Baylor
4. K-State
5. Iowa State
6. Texas
7. OU
8. OSU
9. aTm
10. Tech
Damn right they are.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
flagged for not putting KU number one
lulz jk!
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
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Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 26, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
I heard Stephen Bardo on the radio yesterday
saying the Big 12 “might be the second best conference this year behind the Big 10.” I almost crapped my pants. The Big 10? Really?
Use the forks
everyone is really high on the Big 10 right now
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I like whiskey far morr
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by fetch9 on Jan 26, 2012 1:08 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
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by fetch9 on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
MOAR!!
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Second greatest University in 'Merica
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Even Ken Pomeroy doesn't think they are top 10 bball team though.
Though I’m not sure whether to believe him or his laptop.
Yeah, and I really don't get why.
I lost a great deal of respect for the Big 10 when one of their ranked teams recently lost to a weak Arkansas team that OU pummelled earlier this year. Granted, it was in Arkansas but still not a good performance.
Hogs are unbeaten at home
But have some bad road losses, including blowouts with OU, UConn and Kentucky. Still, the Big 12 teams have better road wins than Big Ten, and that says a lot.
That was after dealing with all those travel nightmares that teams like Purdue and Michigan went through
They went into that game with something like 3 hours of sleep and arrived the day of the game. Tough to win on the road when you get breaks like that.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Teahan
I’m trying to keep the faith. But man, if he isn’t hitting shots, he can’t be on the floor. Because he brings pretty much nothing else to the table.
here, here!
It helps that they are mizzoo, but it is soooo fun to see the posers fall.
They have some really good guards, which can overwhelm lesser teams, but a team with inside and outside players that can play D should be able to handle them without tremendous problem. Their SOS is still pathetic halfway thru the conf season.
I'm still not sold that they are a pretender so to speak.
I think they have some veteran leadership and they are very athletic. Yes they have weaknesses, but they are a solid team and in a year where there aren’t a lot of really great teams….they are right there in the conversation.
That said, last night was big.
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I agree. I think they're a top 15 team
And capable of beating us, even in Allen.
That said, I think we’re a whole lot more likely to sweep them, than they are to sweep us.
well yes.
I really see it as a split this year. But if one of the two is capable of the sweet it’s us because of the size factor and of course AFH.
I’d put it at 15% chance we sweep
5% chance they sweep.
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I agree with those percentages . . .
I like that we go to their place first. I always hate the return trips after we get a home win (see Ames, Manhattan, and Waco).
I think they are good
But how good is Haith at making adjustments when they’re down, or even struggling? Haven’t seen much to show he can, other than maybe the Illinois game.
by jayhawk1996 on Jan 26, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
good point...
and I would never point to an Illinois game because Bruce Weber seems incapable of beating Mizzou lately. They have been a disaster in that game in situations where they should win.
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Easy now...
We’ve played the easiest schedule in the conference, to date. Lots of tough roadies still in front of us.
But like you say, there’s a pretty clear template of how to beat Missouri and we have the personnel to execute.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Soooooooooooo overrated
SOS in the 200’s half wway thru conf. is pathetic.
Correction - SOS actually all the way up to 96
Only top 10 team that is worse – UK @ 117.
Only top 10 team with few top 25 games – Orange @ 2 (vs. 3 for mizzoo).
Also from the Big 12 – the worst D in the conference – almost 50%. Even BU is better.
I gotta say I'm impressed with our ranking right now.
The way the season started, I never thought we’d be the top 2-3 spots of KenPom/Sagarin at any point of the season. Huge credit to the team and coach.
Speaking of OSU
How old is The Hobbit? Is he like a 7th year senior? Man I wish he would just be gone, seems to always have big games against KU
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 26, 2012 8:07 AM CST reply actions
It does seem like he's been there forever.
Though I think he’s still played in about half as many games as Brady did.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
That's 3 ranked team W's for the ladies this year
and currently sitting in #2 in the conference!
They do have a tough stretch remaining, including 2 games with unbeaten BU. Sort of like the men and the next 6 games – 4 on the road.
This dunk was...
And I’m pretty sure this guy also tea-bagged Kimmie on the first play of the game. Pretty impressive.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 26, 2012 11:11 AM CST reply actions
That drew a T? He just stared. I didn't even look like he said anything.
yep, those refs sure were conspiring against Mizzou
by jayhawk3r on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, don't ask Mizzou fans.
The same refs won’t call another game for us again
Somebody asks how he’s so sure, he comes up with this gem:
I meant that they will change up positions, the same men will not be in the same positions
I’m an apologist, I know this and it’s because I work a lot as an official. But what in the world does somebody mean when they say the officials won’t be in the same position again? It’s shit like this that makes me laugh when people bitch about officials because it goes to show that a vast majority of the bitching takes place from a POV that is clueless.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
It's odd that you could watch closely enough to hate specific officials
And yet not notice that that same hated official is not always in the same place on the court.
Honestly, I think it’s just the product of a football-centric fanbase. Or maybe baseball, since I can’t really think of any other sport where the officials rotate positions.
In any case, I’m glad that RCT has far far less complaining about the officiating than RMN does. MU fans that KU fans always say that any team we lost to is far better than people realize, but I infinitely prefer that “excuse” to complaining that there’s some sort of conspiracy by the officials against us (or, in the case of complaining about the officiating in games MU isn’t even playing in, in favor of KU).
All I ask of officials
is consistency. Call the game close – or not. Just make it the same for both teams for the entire game.
Blaming refs for your team’s losses – or KU’s wins – is just another way of saying you’re a bad sport.
by jayhawk1996 on Jan 26, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I dunno
I think there are moments when ref bitching is warranted. As for a vast zebra conspiracy, no. 3 or 4 calls that don’t go your way, definately.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Exactly
Officials make bad calls, and when they go against you it’s frustrating, but complaining that the refs are consistently against you is just conspiracy thinking.
I also think people who focus on the refs way way overstate the effect of home court officiating. Home court advantage is measurable, and it’s not that big (3.5 points on average, 5.5 points at AFH), and officiating is only a part of that.
There are 3 or 4 calls that don't go your way out of a few hundred possible calls every night.
Out of those 3 or 4, maybe 1 or 2 are actually bad calls. Definitely not enough to fixate on as some do.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
The no-call on the first dunk was strange.
First play of the game.
Kim English is outside the circle, but not set by the time Brown is leaving the ground. I think that makes it a block but it’s pretty close to a 50/50 situation.
Brown slams right into English. How can there be NO foul there?
The announcers were verrry circumspect when criticizing the referees. There was another foul that was pretty obviously a Mizzou flop, and the announcers got quiet and one guy eventually asked the other guy in a mumble whether he thought it was a good call. The other guy made him clarify and then defended the refs with the “freshman inexperience” line. That was also the guy talking about Brown getting T’d up a second time for talking when there was no taunting visible on the camera.
I have a feeling there were a lot of make up calls in this game.
All contact doesn't have to be a foul.
If the first block/charge call had no impact on the play, it’s possible that it could be a no-call. That doesn’t happen very often but it’s a common complaint about the contact.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
This case looks pretty cut and dried though.
Getting in the way of guys who are dunking is kind of dangerous and it’s something I think refs would always call one way or the other. I really can’t think of another no-call I’ve seen with this much contact right up front.
I think if this happened almost any time but the very first play of the game, it would get called every time.
I know it has to be called as the current rules stand
but I’d like to see a “play-on” rule when the defense gets a steal and has a clear path for a fast break. Its so frustrating having a potential highlight and/or momentum changing play called back because there was a minor foul. Or even better, let the team that stole the ball finish and then call the foul.
That would make basketball more like hockey,
which could only improve the sport…
In fact, eff it, let’s just play hockey instead!
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Jan 26, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Something that would stop those fouls...
Make it a personal foul that’s treated like a Technical. 2 shots and the ball.
by hawkinwichita on Jan 26, 2012 3:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
or have a penalty box.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
Or just eliminate rules
Look the game should be simple. Get the ball through the hoop. Score a point. Everything else that can take place in between is free game.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
nice
was just thinking about this the other night, similar to soccer when a ref “plays the advantage” and let’s a potential scoring play continue. Not sure it could work with basketball but thought about it too.
by I need more Esteban on Jan 26, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Soccer needs rules like that
because scoring is so rare.
Excitement Scoring opportunities are like a precious flower in soccer and the rules have to work hard to let them happen.
my biggest complaint about the sport is not the lack of scoring
but the lack of scoring opportunities.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
strongly disagree
if you are referring to shots on goal only then maybe so. But scoring opportunities are very frequent in most games. Every dangerous ball into the box is a scoring opportunity. Every through ball played in is an opportunity. The fact that there isn’t a plethora of scoring makes every one of those exciting if you have a rooting interest.
by I need more Esteban on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not necessarliy saying shots on goal,
just like in hockey a scoring opportunity may not involve a shot on goal. But watching guys slowly inch up the field just to kick a ball at a goal the size of a double-wide and miss just isn’t all that exciting to me. FWIW, I’m not totally hating on soccer. I’m gradually coming around but there are definitely some things about the game that I still and probably will never like.
Indoor soccer on the other hand, I can get behind that.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
wow, a couple serious typos...
sorry…
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
and you have every right to not be a fan of it
if you don’t enjoy it, just like anyone has with any other sport.
I get more defensive when people try to talk about it not being exciting because there isn’t a lot of scoring. If people would take time to learn the nuances of the game they would realize that excitement comes because there are so few scoring and every scoring opportunity counts that much more.
Also, I’m probably bringing up some things that you never even alluded to so I apologize for that because what you said in your last post makes perfect sense, it’s just the argument I hear from a lot of people in the US on “why soccer sucks” yet they don’t understand the game.
by I need more Esteban on Jan 27, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
I like soccer, I just think the rules need to work hard
because scoring opportunities are so important.
In basketball it’s fairly easy to foul a guy to stop an easy bucket on the fast break or whatever. In soccer you can get ejected from the game (and no replacement—immense penalty) and/or give up a penalty kick if you try to stop someone who has a scoring opportunity and you don’t do it just right.
Though that said, I’m sure the refs in basketball are conscious about not letting flow of play get too choppy and they definitely get fuzzy about things. I’m definitely not trying to say that basketball is perfect and soccer sucks.
That said, there’s still some part of me that looks upon a 0-0 final with horror and disgust.
Just saw this on twitter. this can't be true can it?
B.J. Rains@BJRains
Hearing rumor Mizzou students are making shirts for KU game that say NMT (No mom Tom) in reference to Robinson’s mom dying. I sure hope not.
It wouldn't surprise me quite honestly.
Young people sometimes don’t think logically about things.
What? A girl who likes sports...INCONCEIVABLE!
Meaning they don't really think about the moral boundaries.
What? A girl who likes sports...INCONCEIVABLE!
in my younger immature dont-think-about-the-consequences days
I did some stupid and thoughtless stuff, but I would never dare to do something like that. I do have personal experience with the loss of a parent but even so, I would never do something like that
I've seen/heard worse from the Antlers
So it doesn’t surprise me. Fortunately the school has done a lot to silence them in recent years.
The worst part is the school seems to actually have pride in the Antlers.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I thought the creation of the "Zou Crew" was to discourage Antler activity
And you rarely see them on TV
Oh it might have been, I'm talking more about the fans not the school.
Should have been clear on that.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
No worries - I see your point now
Yes, the fans are very much wrapped up in the Antler culture
by jayhawk1996 on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
I would love it if...
There were KU fans that show up to the game with signs and shirts that say “We’re your family, T-Rob!” Show support for the big man to counteract the negativity.
What? A girl who likes sports...INCONCEIVABLE!
They were filming some video at the Hearnes Center today for airing at the KU game
That may be where the rumors are coming from, although I have no reason to believe it was anything negative towards Robinson’s tragedy.
from the FB post above
“Mizzou Arena, 1 Champions Dr, Columbia, MO 65203”
Don’t you have to actually win something, anything, before you can claim an address like that?
I can't imagine they do...
but if they do, that’s a gameday game correct? Talk about making an absolutely classless statement about your fanbase.
Again, I can’t imagine anyone would think that to be appropriate.
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Greg Schiano to Tampa...
They had the best recruiting class in the Big East coming in. Something tells me Charlie’s staff is making a few phone calls today…
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 26, 2012 5:40 PM CST reply actions
Might be old news, but this is insane.
With a career record of 112-17, Taylor has become a part of the 26th-straight senior class to win at least 100 games in its career at KU, dating back to the 1986-87 season.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=205364860
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