Kansas Jayhawk News and Notes 1.24.12
by Owen on Jan 24, 2012 3:00 AM CST
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Roger, Dodger: Tommy Lasorda tells Bill Self to 'enjoy the wins' following KU's 64-54 victory over Texas A&M | KUsports.com
Who knew Tommy Lasorda was such a big deal.
Anti-Jayhawks dig big hole in first half | KUsports.com
Big might be overstating it, but yes it was a bad first half. A&M isn't nearly good enough to keep it that close, especially w/out Middleton.
KU grinds out 64-54 win over Texas A&M - KansasCity.com
Grinder seems to be the acceptable phrase for winning while not playing well.
Bracketology 2012: Syracuse Holds On To Top Spot; Kansas Makes Big Jump - SBNation.com
We've talked about it, now the conversation can officially begin. We're listed as a one in this latest bracketology.
Conference power rankings: Big 12 - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN
This weeks power rankings. Iowa State at #4. Definitely concerned about the trip to Ames this year.
Bracketology - NCAA College Basketball Brackets and Predictions - ESPN
Mark that as two that have us as a #1 seed. I just think with Missouri and Baylor getting so much love early in the season and our tough non-con, that we have a shot at this if we win the league. Have to do it with 2-3 losses at the most though I would think.
Kansas’ cool in the clutch vs. Texas a crucial development | Beyond the Arc
More positive talk about Kansas and the grind it out win this Saturday.
JoePA
Rick Reilly - Paterno's True Legacy - ESPN
I think there are going to be some very read worthy JoePa things coming out in the coming week. I think much of that will begin to paint him in a positive light. It will be interesting to follow how this story is told.
Michael Weinreb on the death and complicated legacy of Joe Paterno - Grantland
The hugely complicated problem of remembering a hugely complicated legend.
Remembering former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno - Jack McCallum - SI.com
For so long, even as his hair turned from black to salt and pepper, even as several of his limbs were broken and battered when he stepped in the path of fully-geared gladiators nearly seven decades his junior, Joe Paterno seemed indestructible.
Scandal will stain but not define Paterno
The Penn State scandal that rocked State College will stain Joe Paterno's storied career, but it will not define him in the long run.
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Surely I'm not the only one on this site
who would STRONGLY prefer we not be a #1 seed in the tournament, am I? Look, this team tends to play pretty poorly when expectations are that we’ll dominate. I’m afraid several games as a #1 seed will mess with these guys and add unnecessary pressure.
All that said, I highly doubt we’ll end up a #1, especially since we’re probably going to lose 3 out of our next 7 or 8 games.
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Agreed.
If ever there were a team that needed a chip on its shoulder, it’s this one.
by hiphopopotamus on Jan 24, 2012 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
Coming in at a 3 or 4 would be great.
Biggest thing will be to avoid the “No Name” syndrome which seems to plague Bill’s Teams. Unless a team is a perennial powerhouse or ESPN darling, our guys seem to think that showing up with KANSAS on the uniforms is enough to win….
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 24, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
I agree in theory
but a 3 or 4 seed likely means we didn’t win the conference. And that just won’t do.
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Guess I didn't think of it in those terms of conference champs,
but thought more about "chip on our shoulder’ perspective.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 24, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
Who shows up for the 3?
It’s a cloudy day after a game like A&M, but the thing that foils your scenario IMO is that the team that played KSU & BU is likely to show up for mizzoo, kstate, and BU, tho it does hurt to have already blown out the former 2 at home. Sort of sets us up for a let down rematch on the road.
The only thing that worries me about mizzoo is that we need Naadir to play more than 5 sec, b/c Pressey is likely to pick him off twice in that time.
twice on the same play :)
That sure was an ugly possession for him last night
by MichiganJayHawk on Jan 24, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
said it a week or so ago
please no #1! I guess that means we will have to lose a few which I’ll never root for but I just don’t want to be a #1
by I need more Esteban on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Doesn't matter
It’s who we play, not what we are seeded. Sure there is added pressure, but the only way we get to a 1-seed is by proving that we are an elite team through winning. I would rather take that process and the benefits it provides than worried about the downside of being a top seed with pressure.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 24, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Self might have needed a Dugout Wizard at halftime
So maybe it makes sense that Lasorda was there. Extra points if you get the reference.
I want to win the conference. I could care less about our seed in the NCAA tourney
A trip to the tourney, even making the sweet sixteen or elite eight, doesn’t put hardware in the trophy case, but a conference championship does.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
At many Big 12 schools, it means a new banner to hang!
And our friends to the west can make more DVDs!
Are you referring to conference championships, or are you referring to our opponents’ predilection for celebrating our losses?
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Referring to NCAA tournament appearances/Sweet 16s/Elite 8s
And the tendency for many schools to hang a separate banner for each achievement. Examples include OU, Texas, Baylor and Mizzou. Makes you wonder how big a NCAA title banner would have to be to stand out.
by jayhawk1996 on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
I want to win the conference, especially this year. I will be damned if Missouri wins it on their way out. Also, I have noticed people from different schools (Iowa State and Okie State to name a few) actually cheering for us this year because they too don’t want to see Missouri walk away from the Big 12 with the trophy.
I could care less what seed we are in the tourney.
What? A girl who likes sports...INCONCEIVABLE!
by ladyjay78 on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
THIS.
I want to win the conference, especially this year. I will be damned if Missouri wins it on their way out.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Honest question for those that don't want a #1.
Do you really think the seeding matters negatively like that, or are you more afraid of the “choker” moniker that has seemed to plaque KU lately?
If you’re afraid of the seeding just because you’re worried people will talk about another epic choke job, then you’re hoping KU gets no better than 6th seed and finished somewhere middle of the pack in the conference.
I too hope we don’t choke, but the seeding isn’t going to determine that.
With great programs come great expectations, regardless of the seeding we receive. I expect Kansas to be one of the top seeds year in and year out. I prefer that over being one of those teams with “nothing to lose.”
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History says Kansas is a bad No. 1 seed
Yes, the Jayhawks won it all in 2008 as a No. 1. But in 10 tournament appearances as a No. 1, they made the Final Four three times and Elite Eight twice.
No. 1 seed years include 1992, 1998, and 2010. Source
I’m not as superstitious as most KU fans, but the No. 1 seed thing makes me nervous.
Found a chart on cbssports.com, only through 2010 though
Scroll down to Seeds round by round
No schools are listed, but Kansas had three of 13 losses by a No. 1 seed in the second round.
Here are the 1 seed performances by Kentucky, UNC, and Duke.
Duke: 12 times as a #1 seed. 3 championships, 2 runner up, 1 final four, 1 elite eight, 5 sweet 16, no losses in second round.
UNC: Also 12 times. 4 championships, 1 runner up, 4 final four, 1 elite eight, 1 sweet 16, 1 second round.
UK: 8 times. 1 championship, 2 runner up, 2 final fours, 2 elite eight, 1 second round.
A little over 3 wins on average I believe.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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That's what I'd thought.
And our average is about 2.5 wins since seeding began and 3.3 wins under Self.
Obviously, the main problem here is small data sets, but I don’t really worry about us being a bad #1 seed this year. Our history under Self has to count more than our history under previous coaches.
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