Kansas Football Recruiting: Key Junior College Targets On Campus This Weekend
by Owen on Jan 20, 2012 4:02 PM CST
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When you're trying to get better in a hurry one route to go is the junior college recruiting scene. Charlie Weis already has two defensive tackles, a running back, a receiver and a tight end from the JUCO ranks committed to the Jayhawks. This weekend they'll look to add three more that could make an immediate impact in areas of need.
JayhawkSlant has a great report covering all three prospects, but in short Kansas has another defensive tackle, a defensive end and an offensive tackle all on campus. What makes this more impressive is that all three have earned JUCO All American status.
Jordan Tavai is a 6'3" 280 pound defensive tackle out of the California system. He currently claims offers from Texas Tech, Washington State and Kansas.
Markus Pierce-Brewster is a 6'4" 230 pound weakside defensive end that is viewed as a prospect that brings speed off the edge. Brewster holds offers from Indiana, Syracuse and Ole Miss.
Last but not least the Jayhawks have another big offensive tackle in town. Fehoko Fanaika checks in at 6'6" 340 pounds and also comes out of California. His offer list includes Utah, Hawaii, Fresno State and Cal.
Three players, three positions of need. Also of note, all three of these were targeted and visited by Rob Ianello this week. Throw in Kenneth Crawley and teammate De'Jon Wilson who's recruitment is being headed up by Reggie Mitchell and the Jayhawks will have some very important recruits in town this weekend.
It's been awhile since I can remember Kansas going after this much junior college talent, but Kansas State does it and they do it well so I'm not against it in the least. It's certainly one way to get better and get better in a hurry. We've already seen Weis address the offensive side of the ball. This group along with a handful of other visitors could help boost the defense and add depth to the offensive line.
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weis and jucos
most coaches probably don’t like relying on jucos, you want players who can spend 4-5 years in a program to develop. but there is a time and place for them, and roster shake ups due to a coaching switch certainly qualifies. i bet weis wished he could have recruited jucos to ND when he first got there to fill the the roster voids left by the coaching change, year 3 ended up rough.
next level performer
Juco transfers don't really help 3 years later do they?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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unless they redshirt their first year
Which a lot do
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 21, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Really?
I guess I always thought of juco kids as a 1 year or 2 year fix. You’d think 3 years down the line, it’d be the high school kids you’d have lined up.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Usually
But you could get one who has talent, redshirt him, then enjoy two full seasons with someone who is more developed physically and has more experience.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 22, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
That's definitely true but how many actually do this?
Does anyone know or have examples?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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recruits
Derek Keaton has decommitted from KU
e arterbery
by e jayhawk on Jan 20, 2012 5:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Isn't he the DB/RB that dominated at the camps?
We’re starting to really need DB’s. That’s where many of the lost players were from.
I have been on the record
as being against Juco guys. but with the guys we have maybe this is the way to go for now. I wouldnt expect much of this in the comming years though.
These are JUCOs where we desperately need them
DT? DE? Yes. God yes. OL depth? Sweet.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 20, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
I dont think it’s a great long term process, but when you need to scramble in year one I like it
I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter
there's a guy down I-70 a ways
who says you can do pretty well with a bunch of Jucos
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by PenHawk on Jan 20, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep…if it works, do it. And we might not see it to this extent but it is impossible to say we shouldnt expect some in the future
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by Owen on Jan 20, 2012 7:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Go back
and look at the Orange Bowl roster and see how many JUCO kids had an impact that season. You might change your mind.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
i count 5 total
and i don’t know how many of those id count as impact guys
http://www2.kusports.com/football/roster/2007/
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I count 10
with 3 being “impact” players (Resby, Harper, Hartley), meaning they got in the game to contribute, not like they are all stars.
Patrick Resby S 6-2 200 Jr.-TR. Houston, Texas (Forest Brook HS/ Navarro CC)
Kendrick Harper DB 5-9 190 Jr.-TR Hartwell, Ga. (Hart County HS/Butler County CC)
Maurice Henry CB 5-8 175 Jr. Lawton, Okla. (Eisenhower HS/Northeastern Okla. A&M)
Derek Spears TE 6-3 230 Jr.-RS Osborne, Kan. (Osborne HS/Butler County CC)
Rameses Arceo OL 6-4 300 Jr.-TR Whittier, Calif. (St. Paul HS/Cerritos College)
Jason Hind OL 6-4 285 So. San Antonio, Texas (MacArthur HS/College of DuPage)
Marcus Anderson OL 6-4 295 Sr.-RS Oakland, Calif. (Skyline HS/City College of San Francisco)
Chet Hartley OL 6-4 310 Jr.-TR Kingman, Kan. (Kingman HS/Butler County CC)
Marc Jones TE 6-4 250 Sr.-Tr. Norfolk, Va. (Lake Taylor HS/Kilgore College)
Dustin Spears DE 6-5 235 Jr. Osborne, Kan. (Osborne HS/Garden City CC)
ah i didn't search for college, just cc
damn my laziness
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Why not
get several JUCO players who can fill in and have an impact immediately? The next recruiting class should be filled with high school players who can come in and red-shirt and be ready to play in 2 years. It’s a short term plan with a long term effect. I know the past JUCO players have not worked out but that was a different coach and system. The blueprint has been mastered by Coach Snyder and I can’t argue with that success.
What coach and system are you referring to?
Turner Gill’s? I can’t think of any JUCO kids he brought in.
Mark Mangino had quite a bit of success with JUCOs. Just of the the of my head:
Chet Hartley (OL)
Kendrick Harper (DB)
Brian Murph (WR)
Charlton Keith (DE)
Bill Whittamore (QB)
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
Would love to see a surprise commitment from a player who wasn’t even mentioned in the article
e arterbery
by e jayhawk on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Is there a concern that these are all 5.5-ish guys?
Aren’t 5.7-5.9 the quality of recruit that we really need to be building upon to excel?
if that were the level of HS kids we were pursuing
I’d be more concerned. The fact that we’re looking at JUCOs for these positions says that this staff will take what it can get just to add someone who can play. Especially with the D-line, I can’t argue with that. We need capable bodies in the trenches, and fast. To expect them to be great is a bit much to ask.
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