Kansas Basketball: A (Semi) Statistical Recap of Baylor
by fetch9 on Jan 17, 2012 10:00 AM CST
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To be honest, it's probably impossible to put into words what happened last night, so I'll just leave this here.
This game came down to one thing, and one thing I never thought I would highlight this year: the Kansas offense. Kansas scored 1.296 PPP on the second best defense in the conference, and did it shooting 58% from two. Baylor is the 13th best two point defensive team in the entire country, with tall long premium athletes roaming the paint, and Kansas shot 58% inside the arc. They also shot 6 for 11 from three, which was a huge help, but the two point offense won the game.
Defensively it was a bit of a struggle, allowing Baylor to shoot 55% from two and to score 1.04 points per possession, but they did well outside the arc, limiting the Bears to just 7-23 from three.
The Jayhawk offense turned it over on 21.1% of their possessions, but when they got a shot up the possession was almost guaranteed to end in points being scored, with Kansas putting up a 62.3% eFG and rebounding 48.4% of their misses.
More on the dominant effort in the player notes, but the major challenge now is getting re-focused against Texas on Saturday. And Scott Drew, please ditch that zone vs. Missouri. Thanks.
- I honestly have no idea where to start, but I suppose we can start with perhaps the best NBAer in this draft class. All Thomas Robinson did was score 27 points and grab 14 rebounds, and he scored his points on 11-18 shooting and going 5-6 from the line. He ran the floor (and passed the ball while leading the break), had a jump shot that went in, crashed the boards, showed off power dunks, spin moves, and showed why he should be the national player of the year.
- It's funny, but I haven't seen anyone mention that Tyshawn Taylor had 5 turnovers last night. What he did have was 28 points, going 6-8 from two, 4-6 from three and 4-7 from the line. He got into the lane whenever he wanted, was able to get his shot whenever he wanted, and made a double clutch three at the end of the first half that was one of the biggest shots of the game.
- Jeff Withey was very good as well. The 3-10 shooting was a bit rough, and he probably shouldn't take any more jumpers, but he had 10 rebounds, including 9 offensive boards. He also had 2 assists, 2 steals and 3 blocks.
- Elijah Johnson sneakily had a good game, with 11 points and 5 rebounds, and 3 assists to just 1 turnover. He only took one three as well, not getting arrested by the moment. He had a scary episode in the second half where he appeared to get dizzy or sick and had to go to the locker room, but he was able to come back on the court so that is obviously wonderful to see.
- Kansas really only played 6 guys, with Tehan being the 6th, and Kevin Young and Justin Wesley got just 13 minutes of playing time between them. That really surprised me given Baylor's size inside, and I bet they'll be called upon much more in the return trip to Waco.
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Why's this funny again?
It’s funny, but I haven’t seen anyone mention that Tyshawn Taylor had 5 turnovers last night. What he did have was 28 points, going 6-8 from two, 4-6 from three and 4-7 from the line.
Scoring that efficiently easily covers up five turnovers. It’s when he’s not scoring efficiently that people don’t like his game.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I've seen plenty of articles mention
the turnovers.
by I need more Esteban on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Bill Self even mentioned the turnovers
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I particularly remember a couple of early turnovers,
and my initial reaction was “oh, great, here we go again with Tyshawn”. But I immediately corrected myself (what, you don’t want to hear all about my inner dialogue?) that you have to live with Tyshawn’s bad to take advantage of his good. It’s just how he works, and we’re going to have to be OK with that.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jan 17, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
He had 2 in the first 4 minutes
And then one was that completely bullshit charge call where he jumped around the guy and he fell over like he’d been poleaxed.
So it was easy to forget them, and during the “real” portion of the game, he was spectacular. The only reason I say the first two don’t really count is because Baylor didn’t do anything with them.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 17, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for poleaxed
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
For the few minutes that he was out there, Young got absolutely abused on defense.
Hopefully the tape will be a big learning tool for him going forward .
Completely agree.
He and Wesley aren’t big enough to cover the front court of Baylor, I was not surprised at all that they didn’t get many minutes after their defense was atrocious. I like Kevin on offense (for the most part), but against offensively talented front courts with that kind of size he just doesn’t measure up unless he’s playing the 3 with both Robinson and Withey in the game.
On a more positive note, other than a couple of times getting burned on drives, Withey’s D looked great.
by rockchalk1187 on Jan 17, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Robinson and Withey stayed out of foul trouble
and that was huge. Look for Baylor to work the paint and draw fouls on in Waco. They can’t win if Young and Wesley are on the bench.
by jayhawk1996 on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Young seems to really learning as the season progresses.
I’m optimistic about his contributions by the end of the year.
Also
we looked inept, lost, and worse when Taylor wasn’t in there at point. Tharpe and EJ looked very timid and/or overmatched. Even when Tyshawn is turning it over it’s usually after we at least get into our offense.
Tharpe got really picked the first time he had the ball
1 (or 2?) of the guys seemed to take him aside for just a moment and say “Run the offense.” Next possession he brought the ball up just fine, then did a great TT impersonation blowing into the lane for an easy basket.
Don’t remember a lot more than that. 1 TO, 1 layup.
tharpe
I’ll grant he hit that floater so credit due, but if he missed it that possession would have been as bad as the pickpocket. He got into the lane by accident because of no idea how to handle the pressure being put on him. He and Elijah looked most concerned about protecting their dribble and didn’t appear to have the confidence or assertiveness to get into the offense or really even see the floor.
My point is that even when Tyshawn isn’t dropping 20 (which I think we all agree will be the usual) he’s the only guard who can make this offense go. Just pre-emptively addressing those who will crush Taylor on his next 3-9 FG, 3 asst, 5 TO game. Even with that line he’s helping the team in my opinion.
maybe i intentionally put that picture there so you'd have to rec the post
evil genius
I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter
I saw this early this morning.
this picture may have stumbled into today’s test review and may be the new background on my phone.
I always drink the Kool-Aid
by bt01 on Jan 17, 2012 6:14 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Fat Head
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
New Air Jordan silhouette?
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
I don't know about
“blows away”. On par with, sure.
by I need more Esteban on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, on par with, I'd say.
I just hope we don’t go back to trying for SC highlights on every fast break.
after watching this, blows away isnt the right term
but I think last nights was on par or greater than whats here
Siiiiiiiiiiick
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
One of the nicest dunks I've ever seen.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
Does T-Rob have a statistical case for POY?
R.I.P. DOM
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 17, 2012 4:41 PM CST reply actions
Definitely
Although nowadays all you need is to have ESPN on your back, which he most certainly does. Still, he’s the only player averaging as many points as he is to go with those rebounds, so he also has the stats.
For what its worth the only other guy that seems to be getting much play is Doug McDermott from Creighton, and voters will slam him for playing in the MVC.
by 2.1 seconds left on Jan 17, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
I think so.
You’ve probably seen this at some point, but the last three players to average 17 and 12 in a major conference were Griffin, Beasley, and Tim Duncan.
He’s #2 in the entire country in RPG, and #2 in the Big 12 in PPG. Obviously PPG and RPG aren’t the only stats out there, but those are some nice numbers.
When Pomeroy previewed his kenpom POY list on twitter a couple weeks ago, Robinson was #1
Pomeroy’s list is entirely computer generated off of stuff like offensive effiiciency, possessions used, block/steal rate, etc.
He also adds in a team ranking and team impact.
To make sure some guy tearing up the MWAC doesn’t win it all. Ideally it’s a player from a highly ranked team who is carrying a heavy share of that team’s success. Pretty good description of TRob this year.
funny..
i was just doing this with a buddy last night, and again today. mixing up parts of his name with ku players. oh, and hell of a win last night. very proud…
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
How about some D?
A compilation of Withey’s blocks would be awesome. Wish I knew how to do all that fancy giffy stuff.
if i have time this week
i might be able to do something like that for you
I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter
i like how even when the names of the players are amalgamated
the one with Tyshawn’s first name comes in first
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