Kansas Jayhawk News and Notes 1.13.12
by Owen on Jan 13, 2012 4:00 AM CST
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Interesting article emailed to me by KSinDC. Gracias! If anyone else ever catches something and wants to shoot me an email I'm happy to include reader recommendations in the daily links.
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SI.com's 2011-12 College Hoops Midseason All-America Team - NCAA Basketball - SI.com
SI's Luke Winn and Seth Davis assemble their midseason All-America teams
SI.com's 2011-12 Midseason Crystal Ball - NCAA Basketball - SI.com
Some Jayhawk and Thomas Robinson mention in this one. I have to say, I am REALLY hoping that Robinson can keep things rolling as far as the player of the year talk. That would be a huge deal for Robinson, Kansas and Bill Self.
Kevin Young guns (and runs and rebounds and passes and … ) | KUsports.com
First big off the bench...needs to be.
It’s time for RPI to RIP | KUsports.com
Bill Self is one of the RPI masters.
Josh Selby takes over backup duties for Grizzlies | 'Hawks in the NBA | KUsports.com
Selby making a move? It would be great to see him get things on track.
Texas Tech coach Billy Gillispie suspends Terran Petteway for one game - ESPN
The Aftermath: Texas Tech coach Billy Gillispie has suspended freshman Terran Petteway for a game after he elbowed a Kansas player during a loss to the 10th-ranked Jayhawks.
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Recruit impressed by Kansas’ NFL ties | KUsports.com
Now this is one large man. I caught a little bit of his film and he is a road grader when it comes to run blocking. I think this would be a nice addition to our offensive line and now that we have QB's with legit height, 6'8" is totally doable.
The Top 100 Games Of The 2011 College Football Season, 100 Through 71 - SBNation.com
We made the list....WE MADE THE LIST!!!
College Football
NCAA president Mark Emmert supports 4-team football playoff - NCAA Football - SI.com
More playoff talk
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On the Petteway thing
I was amazed reading multiple posters at other sites yesterday congratulating him and cheering him on for that. I know it’s the internet and people say stupid stuff all the time but that’s about as low as it gets, even for the web. I don’t care who does it or who it happens to, cheering for a cheapshot is bush.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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What amazes me is that nobody calls them out on it
We don’t have quite as big a community here as they do on some of our rivals’ SBN sites, but bigger communities seem to bring a lower level of discourse. RMN is very aggressive about enforcing community standards for what you are and aren’t allowed to say (I’d don’t know how many hundreds of time they’ve suggested posters go to Tigerboard if they’re too negative about MU, and Bill C is very good about monitoring swearing), but the majority of posters refuse to capitalize Kansas, there are dozens of childish jokes replacing “poop,” “insane,” with Jayhawk, the obligatory suggestions to burn down Lawrence again, and, yesterday, a post comment celebrating Petteway for taking a swing at Teahan.
After I saw the post yesterday (where the poster said he chose to believe Petteway had thrown a punch at Teahan and called him his “hero” for doing so), I did a test of sorts where I said he was my “hero” because he didn’t cause any harm (Teahan said so himself after the game) and he broke KU out of its funk. Sure enough, I got called on my definition of “hero” but nobody every questioned the original poster commenter. This is in a community with several sophisticated thinkers.
I give RMN a lot of credit
but ultimately, they’re still Mizzou fans.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
by labbadabba on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I guess I don't get it...
I don’t hate players because of who they play for. That doesn’t mean I like em, but I’d never wish harm on someone just because of who they play for. I read the thread on MN and thought, hell maybe KState fans had more class. I was wrong. They called him a hero also. I would be pissed if KU fans were doing this. I also would call the person out on it. I’ve had to tell some of my KU friends to either shut up or calm down when they’ve taken it too far.
by hawkinwichita on Jan 13, 2012 9:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Agree with both of you.
It doesn’t surprise me when one person says something but multiple comments followed by more cheers and/or silence about it. I can guarantee that wouldn’t happen here and I’m happy about that.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Why would there be action taken against it?
Hell, the authors of the other sites revel in “I HATE KANSAS!!!!!”
Go to BOTC and read through the links. You can barely find one that doesn’t contain some lame shot at KU. Hell, at times half of their fanshots are about KU. I just weed through it. I have had some really good conversations over there, and a lot of commentators will drop the whole “eff KU” thing to just talk sports. But, in the end, its a blog that relies on an anti-KU viewpoint. Its what they want, you got to cater to the people. For some reason, they all hate Kansas. I don’t like KState, but I can’t muster the hatred Missouri and KState fans can. I couldn’t celebrate someone getting punched, and I’m pretty immature.
At RCT, we poke fun and whatnot, but it isn’t anywhere close to RMN and BOTC. I think most of that just stems from our own security. We know our basketball program is a national power and beats the crap out of everyone in our league. Our football teams sucks, and we hope it will get better. It is what it is.
I went to Kansas, watched my team win its league every year I was there and win a national title. Hell, the football team made 3 bowls, won 3 of 4 over KSU, 3 of 4 against MU and won the Orange Bowl. I got a degree and have a great job. I live 30 minutes from Lawrence.
I don’t need to constantly cut down another team, school, and its players and fans to feel better about myself.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Woops, should be
4 out of 5 against KSU, 3 out of 5 against MU. Forgot about that extra semester :)
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
you're right about many posts
just being shots at Kansas. No matter what the story is, if it involves KU, there is usually some shot taken.
by I need more Esteban on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Kansas players donate to charity
“God, look at them trying to act better than us. Maybe they should work on football more than giving back! HAHAHAHAHA F*CK KU!”
Its just like… come on man. We get it.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Good effort but you capitalized the k.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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by Warden11 on Jan 14, 2012 8:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Touche
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 14, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
I have no problem with them taking shots at us...
They don’t like us. I get that. But to celebrate someone throwing a punch at another player is ridiculous. When Maclin went down (even though he came back) in the snowy Border War, one of my friends was cheering that he was hurt. I corrected him on that. It wasn’t right to celebrate or wish harm on someone like that. As a fan, that’s taking it too far.
by hawkinwichita on Jan 13, 2012 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
expecting civility from a missouri fan is a pretty tough ask
I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter
Never understimate MU and KSU fans
Like I’ve said many times, most of them hate KU more than they love their own team. Guess its fun to just simply hate on another school. Its how they identify themselves.
I’ve just kind of gotten over it. If those people’s lives are so pathetic that they take pleasure in stuff like that, well… what are you going to do?
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
You can say the same thing about A&M fans and UT
Wonder who they’ll obsess over now. Never mind, it will still be the Longhorns.
I figure that's where MU fans learned to refuse to capitalize their rival's name
I wonder if MU fans will start refusing to capitalize Arkansas’ name or if that level of childishness is reserved for us.
Also loved this from the SI Crystal Ball column:
Allen Fieldhouse is where upstart Big 12 title dreams go to die. Baylor enters the ring with the best slate of road wins in the nation and unbeaten with No. 1-seed aspirations. If you want to be the champ, you have to beat the champ, preferably in their place. This is the Bears’ big chance.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Not only did we make the list, but.....
our new QB made the list at number 71.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
we made the list twice actually
Sadly one was for not good reasons
I write everywhere. You're probably better off following me on twitter
by fetch9 on Jan 13, 2012 8:10 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
That RealGM article I suggested is flawed in execution but still interesting
It looks at how teams have done (not just in terms of record, but in terms of offensive and defensive efficiency) against teams in the top 100 versus teams outside the top 100.
It does reveal interesting information (it sheds some light on why Wisconsin’s kenpom rating is so much higher than we’d expect based on watching them) and I like breaking out how teams did against elite competition as a measure of their strength, especially for projecting tournament runs. The problem is that there are not anywhere close to 100 elite teams in college basketball. The 90th best team at the end of the season is just hoping for (and probably, like Tulsa last year, probably not getting) an invitation to the CBI. So you end up with nonsense results like Middle Tennessee being one of the best teams in the country.
Still, there’s good information there. I’m going to hope that the author used top-100 in order to have sufficient data to draw distinctions and that he’ll repeat it later in the year with a more exclusive group like top-50 (almost all of whom will make the NCAA tournament).
Hanner's a pretty good hoops writer and often comes up with interesting angles.
I thought the same exact thing about the top 100 distinction, especially after seeing Mizzou at #1 against the top 100 at 6-1. I’d be really curious to see those teams and whether they fall closer to 100 on average than #1.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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MU is 2-1 against the top 50
Loss to #15 (road)
Win over #21 (neutral)
Win over #37 (neutral)
Win over #51 (road)
Win over #72 (neutral)
Win over #80 (home)
Win over #101 (home)
Thanks.
Fairly bottom heavy but I’m sure most still are at this point in the season.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Great to see Josh move into a back-up role.
I noticed he played a little bit last night and was worried it was just because of an injury or something. Nice to see he’ll get a chance to play more.
I caught highlights of Rio Grande’s game last night and saw Marcus rolled his ankle. Hopefully it’s nothing too serious as he was looking pretty good. Can’t seem to find any other info on how serious it is.
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