Interesting column on the Wildcat formation
"Kansas (2-1) ran eight plays out of the Wildcat in that half. They totaled 17 yards, a 2.125 yards per carry average and zero first downs in those eight snaps."
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Somewhat half-hearted journalism
Not only did they not even consider the second half, but they didn’t even consider the first 2 ball games at all, or consider who received the snap from center in each wildhawk situation. I’m recalling it being quite successful against NIU & McNeese. I believe the LJW even ran an article sort of boasting about trying to impose the O-will on the D by letting the D know what play the O was running.
Not sure what good this does for anyone either. The defense is atrocious.
. I believe the LJW even ran an article sort of boasting about trying to impose the O-will on the D by letting the D know what play the O was running.
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Too bad these guys aren't in the Big 12.
successful against NIU & McNeese
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Might be before all this expansion stuff is over.
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It seems completely true that the Jayhawk/Wildcat formation didn't work against GT
But missing from the article is that the success of the Jayhawk/Wildcat versus GT is not really indicative of how well it will/won’t work the rest of the season.
1. (as mentioned above) it worked reasonably well in the first two games,
2. and GT is probably the best team in the country at defending this type of offense – they practice against it every day.
3. So why would the Jayhawk/Wildcat be employed against GT? and once it’s clear that it’s not going to work, why continue to run it?
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
Does it working reasonably well the first two games mean anything?
That’s an honest question because as I mentioned above, that level of football is over for the season. I think it’s very appropriate to ask why it’s being used, which the article asked. Especially when there has been zero creativity shown in the plays out of the formation.
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It doesn't mean much in the bigger picture, and I didn't actually see those plays so I have less perspective than
some others might. But the argument in the article seemed to jump to the conclusion that “running Jayhawk is not working” and the proof was “didn’t work against GT”. It conveniently declined to mention that it looked OK against non-GT defenses. My take would be let’s see how it looks against TT’s and OSU’s decent/good defenses before coming out so strongly against it.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Sep 26, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
From the approach we've seen with the formation, we have zero reason to believe it will work.
That’s my issue with it.
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I think that's a valid argument
My guess is that in the long run the Wildcat/Jayhawk formation has about as much use as an end-around, reverse, or HB/WR pass. A gimmick play, essentially. But it’s exciting, so I hope it ends up being more than that, both for KU and football in general.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Sep 28, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems like they're only showing one version of it
Maybe there’s a new wrinkle or three to be unveiled Saturday? T Tech proved it can be shaky on both sides of the ball vs. Nevada. Feeling a little better about this game than I was a week ago.
I'm convinced
that we ran the Jayhawk more than we intended to because Webb was shaken up or dinged up or broken up or something like that – they need time for him to catch his breathe, band-aid his bleeding and/or evaluate him.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
That's good to hear
I mean, let’s hope it wasn’t just some blind formula for running the Jayhawk formation a certain number of times or something.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Sep 26, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess the main question here
is not WHY we were running the Jayhawk, but rather why were we running the Jayhawk with Rell Lewis?
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Yes
And I don’t have a problem with Rell Running it. I have a problem with having Rell keep the ball again for the 8th straight time we’ve run the play.
How’s about handing the ball off or pitching it to: Sims, Miller, or Bourbon?
Wow. There’s a concept.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
I still wonder if that was by design
maybe GT was thinking, “okay, we have Rell Lewis, James Sims, Darrian Miller, and Brandon Bourbon in a crazy wishbone wildcat formation. Which one of these guys is most likely to carry the ball?”
Rell Lewis? Oh, you sneaky KU. You very sneaky.
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by labbadabba on Sep 28, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And it was sneaky
the first time.
And even the second.
And maybe the third.
After that, it just got predictable.
"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.
I didn't see a lot of the game unfortunately (?fortunately?)
but I did notice one time the RB’s came off the field and Mitchell lit into them pretty good. Seemed like they weren’t running the ball quite the same way the coaches intended.
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