Turner Gill Addresses Roster Moves With Brock Berglund and Deshaun Sands

by Owen on Aug 23, 2011 4:08 PM CDT in Kansas Jayhawk Football 2011

This afternoon the Kansas athletic department released a statement related to a few personnel moves that will impact the team this fall. First off Brock Berglund, the Jayhawks highly touted freshman quarterback will not participate in fall practice but will remain a member of the Kansas Jayhawk football team.

"Due to legal issues, Brock will no longer be attending practices with the team this fall. He will remain enrolled as a KU student, and plans to resume all team activities in the spring semester."

Based on the back and forth over the Spring and Summer it was assumed that Berglund would take a redshirt year this season, but this effectively says that he will be taking an even further step away from football. By not participating in Fall workouts, it becomes a freshman year without any real opportunity to work with the staff and team.

Kansas fans will have to continue to wait and see as this process works itself out but Berglund has been MIA for much of Fall camp just as he was this past Spring and into the Summer. Certainly adding a player like Berglund ups the ante from a competition standpoint, but at this point he appears to have some work to do before he can truly put his name in the conversation.

In addition to Berglund it was announced that DeShaun Sands has been dismissed from the team effective immediately. The son of Tony Sands, Deshaun was competing in a crowded backfield but due to some recent legal issues he will no longer be a Kansas Jayhawk.

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Holy smokes

Not showing up for a court date gets you booted from the team? Damn, Gill is s.t.r.i.c.t.

I kind of like it! :-)

I feel bad for Tony……can’t imagine the embarrassment. You are KU RB legend…….and your son gets booted from the team.

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by Rivethead on Aug 23, 2011 4:12 PM CDT reply actions

i halfway think

it’s that we have a ton of depth at RB and they decided to make an example out of someone

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by fetch9 on Aug 23, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions

I hope that's not the case

I think a policy should be consistently applied. You don’t make examples out of kids just because you have alot of depth at the position. Whose to say Sands couldn’t have been converted to an All-American CB?

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Aug 23, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Daymond Daylight Patterson takes issue with your CB idea

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by Andrew Clark on Aug 23, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Why no redshirt?

Is there a rule that says a guy has to be practicing to get a redshirt year? It’s nice that the team is holding a place for Berglund, but for how long? There’s got to be more to these “legal issues” than has been reported.

by jayhawk1996 on Aug 23, 2011 4:12 PM CDT reply actions

Not saying he can't get a redshirt.

I don’t know the exact rules but even if they do redshirt him it’s not as if this is going to be a typical redshirt year anymore. If it was he would practice, workout and learn with the team. That would be a tremendous benefit. By not practicing, he’s basically just sitting out of football for a year.

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by Owen on Aug 23, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

True

Won’t be surprised if they part ways after the “legal issues” have been resolved. Won’t be surprised if he comes back in the spring and starts pushing for playing time. A lot of twists and turns to this one.

by jayhawk1996 on Aug 23, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

then again...

I wonder if this somehow means he can basically “grayshirt”?

Now that would be a boost, but I doubt it.

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by Owen on Aug 23, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions

he has already practiced with the team

So wouldn’t that disqualify him for a greyshirt? I know Julius green worked out on his own in Texas last year

by dester30 on Aug 23, 2011 5:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Pretty sure thats the case

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by Owen on Aug 23, 2011 6:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I like that Gill released Sands

It is one thing to mess up once but missing two court dates on two separate incidents in really inexcusable.

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by KRichards on Aug 23, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions

Sets a good example for everyone else, too

by jayhawk1996 on Aug 23, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Here's something that's interesting to me.

Last year at the time of the “commitment switch” by Berglund from CU to KU there was a CU individual who I heard from that was fairly “in the know”.

According to this individual Berglund didn’t switch, CU essentially dropped him due to some legal issues that were being dealt with behind the scenes. Now obviously we know that the current situation occurred this Summer, but I’ve started to wonder if his erratic back and forth is due to some carry over from a past incident. Something that perhaps escalated due to the occurrence this summer.

Again, I don’t know anything for certain…just that this individual claimed CU and Berglund mutually parted ways because CU didn’t feel that they wanted to chance on something. The situation just leaves the door open for a lot of speculation. I suppose that’s not something we should really get into and we should let it play out, but it becomes almost impossible. I just can’t think of a similar situation, especially when the current issue was positioned as a simple scuffle between two high school kids.

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by Owen on Aug 23, 2011 4:38 PM CDT reply actions

That makes more sense than anything else I've heard or read about this

by jayhawk1996 on Aug 23, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions

A lot of crazy stuff happens in the CU football program

female palce kickers getting sexually harrassed, starting QBs knocking up the coach’s daughter, etc.

Maybe it’s spreading to CU recruits too? What’s in the air out there?

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by Rivethead on Aug 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions

it already has spread to recruits

colt brennan was a CU recruit

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by fetch9 on Aug 23, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions

considering

The starting QB was the coach’s son that IS some crazy stuff

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by labbadabba on Aug 23, 2011 5:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Sounds like something that takes place in Missouri

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by KRichards on Aug 23, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions

I think it's pretty clear there's a lot more than just this at the moment.

I just can’t think of a similar situation, especially when the current issue was positioned as a simple scuffle between two high school kids.

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by Warden11 on Aug 24, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions

this seems strange

Brock: Because of some legal trouble, he’s going to remain a Jayhawk but just take a break for a litle while.

Sand: Because of some legal trouble, we’re booting his ass to the curb.

I’m not sayin’, but I’m just sayin’…

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by labbadabba on Aug 23, 2011 5:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

I'm thinking it's # of strikes

Gill seems like a forgiving type of person to me. You get one, maybe two strikes. But the 3rd and you’re out. And remember, the strikes don’t necessarily have to be public knowlege. For all we know, DeShaun was caught by coaches smoking weed or something.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Aug 23, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Heaven forbid

Maybe he was using his cell phone after eleven with a girl in his room

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by labbadabba on Aug 23, 2011 5:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs

The Sands thing... meh. Likely the court dates weren't the only issue, and the kid wasn't going to play anyways

Berglund… interesting. But part of me has to wonder if Berglund is just getting the same treatment any normal incomming freshman would get, and we are making it out to be a bigger deal than normal because of all the hype we gave him when he signed.

I know the QB issue has been, well a big issue. But look at it this way: Jordan Webb is only a sophomore this season with a ton of PT already, and by all accounts has looked quite improved. Michael Cummins fits the mold of a Gill/Long ideal QB and has been really coming along fast and showing a lot in practice. To top it off, we’ve nabbed TWO very highly regarded dual threat QBs via recruiting.

Berglund showed up with baggage and to top that off, rubbed a lot of his teammates the wrong way. Kudos to the staff for showing the rest of the players no one guy is above the team. Gill knew BB wouldn’t be able to play this year, at least not above Webb/Mecham and perhaps even Cummins and Jablonski. So he likely set an example for the rest of the team and told BB to get his shit together and see me in the Spring.

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by Andrew Clark on Aug 23, 2011 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs

i know i sound like a broken record but...

Cummings is going to be good. Kid gets no respect. He may have beat berglund anyways, he is already pushing for time in the wildcat

by dester30 on Aug 23, 2011 7:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Yeah, I think a lot of us were scared off due to his injury

I had no idea he would be ready to practice and compete this early in the season. But I’ve seen tape on the kid and he looks like a TRUE dual threat guy who competed down in Texas (plus KU like Texas QBs, I think we had modest success with one recently).

If you’re driving the Cummings bandwagon, I’ll gladly sit shotgun. ROAD TRIP TO GLORY

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by Andrew Clark on Aug 23, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions

I give Cummings mucho respect

I like the kid. A lot. And not just cause he’s a Texas kid who faced Texas competition every week. He just seems like a good kid who didn’t let a big time injury take him down.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Aug 23, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions

I think you gloss the Sands thing

We’ve got the youngest team in the league (conferece? Country?) and you’re ho hum about losing a kid who actually had, you know, playing time last season.

Even if he only got a handful of carries at RB a game, who’s to say he wasn’t an excellent gunner on special teams? Probably not, but I’m just saying…..Coach Long wouldn’t say “I’ll take all the running backs I can get” if he didn’t mean it.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Aug 23, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions

He got some PT in the first three games

Then quickly lost almost all PT once Sims came on and the staff thought BeShears was a better change of pace option.

We return those two, are adding two four star burners who will see immediate PT most likely, and have a fourth four star guy returning from injury who has looked good in practice as of late. Throw in a couple other backups, three fullbacks who can all rush if we need them too, and Beshears’ ability out of the backfield (if we need it) and yeah… I’m ho hum.

If this was defensive tackle or pretty much any other position I’d be reacting like I’m pooping razor blades. But at running back, I’m not worried.

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by Andrew Clark on Aug 23, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions

I understand what you're saying

but I also must remind you: the three four-star kids and the three fullbacks have never taken a D1 snap in their life. For all we know, they could be great practice players and kids who piss down their legs when it comes time to actually playing. Odds are that won’t be the case, but we just don’t know yet.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Aug 24, 2011 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions

Thats fine

But Sands didn’t look very good in his playing time last year. So I’m not sure what the significance is here. Its not like we are losing a known productive commodity here.

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by Andrew Clark on Aug 24, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Andrew

Who did look very good in their playing time last year? No one really.

Sands is only a sophomore. He may have made huge leaps and bounds from his redshirt freshman year. It’s been known to happen. We’ll never know now though.

"No time for questions. No time for games. Start kickin' ass and takin' down the names." - Dave Mustaine.

by Rivethead on Aug 24, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Well

If we just wanna stay with running backs, I thought James Sims looked pretty good last year :)

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by Andrew Clark on Aug 24, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Plus,

I think Sands’ playing time early last season and the fact that Miller, Pierson and Bourbon already appeared to be ahead of him in regards to playing time besides Sims really illustrates the lack of talent we had last year, and how we have immediately brought in youngsters who can/will push the veterans for PT

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by Andrew Clark on Aug 23, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Sands was bad

like, really bad. The kid does not have D1 speed, and at his size, that’s something you have to have. The only part of this that disappoints me is that he was the son of a Kansas football legend.

No touching!

by PenHawk on Aug 23, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions