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Basketball Recruit DeAndre Daniels To UConn

This years final recruiting saga appears to be over and this time Kansas isn't landing any late recruiting season saves.  After having luck with Xavier Henry and Josh Selby things took a different turn with DeAndre Daniels and the 6'8" wing is headed to UConn.

Back in January it looked like Daniels would be a Jayhawks.  Somewhere along the way the process turned into a lengthy one with multiple delays and the writing seemed to be on the wall.  If Daniels wanted to be a Jayhawk the playing time was there and all he had to do was say the word.  For whatever reason that wasn't meant to be and he's headed to defending national champion UConn. 

Tough break for Bill Self.  Kansas still has the pieces in place to compete on a National level but it will be one of the more challenging years for the Jayhawks in recent memory.  Kansas is still fairly deep on talent, but they are very thin on experience and thin on proven production.

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I'm fine with this

Would I have rather wanted him at KU? Of course. However, with the recent disappointments of the late recruiting season, I am content to let our coaches build up the players we already have. Now I just hope that Withey and Wesley are pleasant surprises next season.

by Lucamachine on Jun 7, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

It's unpopular

but I agree 100%

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by Warden11 on Jun 7, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can commiserate together

On paper, this is bad news for Horns and Jayhawks fans alike. Daniels would have been a sweet addition to either frontcourt. As a college basketball fan, I like the move for UConn, which had been looking for another big to pair with Oriakhi in the frontcourt. I think this vaults them to Final Four contending status, although I’ve got an unsettling suspicion that this ends badly for both Daniels and the Huskies. Alex Legion-esque, IMO.

by jc25 on Jun 7, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

although I’ve got an unsettling suspicion that this ends badly for both Daniels and the Huskies. Alex Legion-esque, IMO.

I can see that. Something just doesn’t seem right with how this whole thing has gone.

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by Triston27 on Jun 7, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

there was a dead period where coaches could not talk to players after the signing day in early May? If that is the case how did UConn get in on him when they were never on his list. Is Calhoun not already in trouble with the NCAA? Very odd recruitment all the way around.

by jb4 on Jun 7, 2011 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Follow the moola

I have no evidence beyond the fact that I think Jimmy Calhoun is one of the slimiest – if not the slimiest – active coaches today ….. Maybe it has something to the letters CAL: Calapari, Calhoun, USC….. just sayin’ :)

by MichiganJayHawk on Jun 7, 2011 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Too much of a strech?

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by mystman995 on Jun 8, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

He wants to get paid. Nothing wrong with that.

UConn is going to be in a bit of trouble over the next few years. Not sure I’d want to jump into that…

I really don’t care. I’ve already talked myself into a Releford/McLemore combo at the three and I’m excited about it. One more scholarship for next year. Self will take advantage of it.

Gearing up for a 2005 esque recruiting class for next year

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 7, 2011 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

i dunno

I was pretty convinced that he could slide over to power forward and help us a ton there, maybe even start there. That would help us a ton, as we are now very slim on big men.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 7, 2011 9:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The problem is that's not the kind of player he is

He’s wiry and a shooter. He would have some time to add bulk before the season, but the problem is he’s just not geared as a post player. (then again, neither was Mario Little, but he got stuck there often)

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 8, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Despite them being a successful, high-profile program

would Daniels be UConn’s first one-and-done, if he goes that route? I can’t recall them ever having one…

by PenHawk on Jun 7, 2011 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Lamb going pro?

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 7, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't believe so.

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by Triston27 on Jun 8, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does Nate Miles count?

Or do you actually have to play AND get drafted to be considered a one-and-done?

by jc25 on Jun 8, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha. Good call

But it’s not like he left UConn to go get paid. I think he was making more at UConn than he did after getting the boot.

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by Triston27 on Jun 8, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been over Daniels for some time now.

I’m actually excited to see what Releford and McLemore, et. al. can do at the 3. I think Releford is grossly underrated and will surprise a lot of people next season, assuming he stays healthy. Yes, we’re thin up front. All that means is that Traylor and Anderson will get more early PT, which will help them in the future. Also, we’ll be able to go small and super athletic at times, which will be exciting. Yes, we may struggle shooting the ball, but what’s new, right? We’ll be an exciting team to watch, as usual. I can’t wait.

I’ll go one step further. HCBS will win coach of the year again next year after we win the Big XII and finish the regular season 25-6 in what’s supposed to be a down year.

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by Bensa on Jun 7, 2011 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Does HCBS have this in him?
Also, we’ll be able to go small and super athletic at times, which will be exciting.

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by Warden11 on Jun 7, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll see, won't we?

He did this a little bit in 06-07 when Julian was playing the 4 and, IIRC, some at the 5 too. Look, we’re clearly going to have either Robinson or Withey in at pretty much all times, so we’re never going to be “small” per se, but if T-Rob is at the 5, that leaves a potentially small lineup elsewhere. I don’t think HCBS will avoid those situations, especially if the matchups allow it.

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by Bensa on Jun 8, 2011 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm questioning whether the super athletic thing will get used, not necessarily the small lineup part.

I’m going to be amazed if Withey manages 20+ minutes a game, so T-Rob and others will definitely get their share at the 5. Will HCBS change anything when the team has to go small? I don’t know if he has that in him.

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by Warden11 on Jun 8, 2011 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

"I don’t know if he has that in him"

I also don’t know if he has a choice. Withey is prone to foul like crazy, and Self insists on having the best guys out there. If he sticks by his “I want the best guys on the floor” standards, won’t we have no choice but to go small and athletic?

When Releford started playing really well last year (right before he got hurt against Michigan) Self had him playing quite a bit at the four. Little also saw a lot of time at the four. Two guys right there that are wing type players and shorter than 6’6

I think Self has adapted more/better over time at KU, and I think he will continue to do so next season. Plus he doesn’t have much of a choice

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 8, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

And by adapted, I mean changed up philosophies, lineups, etc

Seems like his refusal to adapt to the players he had backfired when he first took over. Self inherited a team built to run and fresh off the Roy years, and forced a half-court, physical mindset. I don’t know about you, but I always felt like guys like Langford (who was built for transition attacks), Miles, etc seemed out of their element playing Self’s offense.

I feel like in recent years, especially last year, Self has switched things up a bit. I think he learned his lesson from the Northern Iowa debacle and realized he needs to take more advantage of the athleticism and versitility his players boast.

Although maybe all of that is just wishful thinking on my part

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 8, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm not making my point clear enough, the small lineup will be on the floor.

Will anything change with the style of play because of it? That’s where I have my doubts.

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by Warden11 on Jun 8, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and as I stated in my ramblings above

History shows you have reasons to doubt. However, Self has shown a tendency to press when our offense is stalling. I have a feeling our offense will stall a bit often next year without the Morris twins.

I think, given that we are losing bona fide scorers and are left with a lot of athleticism and speed, Self will tap more into the flashes of press and run we’ve seen scattered over the years. Again though, maybe just wishful thinking on my part

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 8, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still not high on Releford

I think he’ll be a plus defender and decent offensively. A good player, but I don’t see the huge “breakout” type of season some are forecasting. Hope I’m wrong.

by PenHawk on Jun 8, 2011 2:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If not Releford, then whom?

He’s gonna get minutes, probably 20-25 per game. I’ll go on the record and say he averages about 11 pts. a game through the non-conference portion of the season while McLemore gets McLemated (see what I did there?) to the college game. Releford showed flashes last year, and I just think he’s got a little bit of Keith Langford in him.

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by Bensa on Jun 8, 2011 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I not sure he ever recovered from the injury last year.

He was really doing some good work before then, and afterwords could not get playing time.

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by bt01 on Jun 8, 2011 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

He did show flashes last year

I guess I’m assuming he’ll just continue to show flashes until I’ve seen him play well consistently (offensively, that is, we know he’s good on defense). Releford may never have been back to 100% last year, but neither was Selby, and Self continued to give him big minutes. Releford just disappeared down the stretch.

by PenHawk on Jun 8, 2011 8:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Before his injury he was starting to get a lot of PT and played well

I think he will really benefit from a lot more minutes. It will force him to be more assertive offensively. If he continues to make strides this offseason as he did last offseason (the improvement in his outside shot was downright remarkable), there is no reason to believe he will be a solid contributor next season at the very least

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 8, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The loser in all of this: Daniels.

How could you pass up the opportunity to work with THE Danny Manning every day for the next four years?

All he needed to see was game film of both of the twins their freshman year then game film of this past year to see what could happen to his game.

Here’s to a sick recruiting class next year….

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by Carl C on Jun 8, 2011 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh boy...

This is gonna be an interesting year.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jun 11, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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