Kansas Jayhawk News and Notes 5.19.11
by Owen on May 19, 2011 4:00 AM CDT
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PrintAs if you really needed a links post today. You know what happened and of course we know what's supposed to happen today and all in all it isn't great news for Kansas.
Kansas Basketball
Recruit Jamari Traylor picks Kansas | KUsports.com
Get to work buddy. Feel free to become the next Darnell Jackson type
Jayhawks go 1-1-1 on D-Day | KUsports.com
Sure would be nice to move to 2-1 although it seems more likely that we'll be 1-2.
DeAndre Daniels Saga Drags On | ZagsBlog.com
Interesting take on the situation seems DeAndre wants Texas maybe and Dad wants Kansas. Now Kansas was in this exact situation with McClemore but the player was the one wanting Kansas while the parent wanted Missouri. At the time Kansas fans everywhere said let the player decide and he ultimately did. If story here is true I hope DeAndre picks the program he TRULY wants to be a part of. If it's a back and forth thing and dad convinces him KU is right then ok. I just hope Dad doesn't force it and I honestly can't see that happening when all is said and done.
DeAndre Daniels delays decision until Thursday morning | KUsports.com
So this is supposed to happen huh?
Recruit Trevor Lacey picks Alabama over KU | KUsports.com
Tried but couldn't catch up last minute.
Kansas Football
Top 10 KU football positives | KUsports.com
Some football talk during a basketball dominated week
Selby Buzz
Transition Game: 10 Sleepers In The Draft Who Will Excel In The NBA | Dime Magazine (dimemag.com) : Daily NBA News, NBA Trades, NBA Rumors, Basketball Videos, Sneakers
Selby on the list of sleepers and the belief that Bill Self's system is limiting one and dones continues to gain steam. I think this is a bad thing when we talk about recruiting in the future.
Speaking of Selby, remember how elated we were when he committed? Not saying anything bad about him, just that things aren't always so life and death with recruiting. Sometimes it's a little over-hyped
This Seems BIG...maybe?
Big Ten considers proposal to help athletes cover living expenses - ESPN
Big Ten officials discussed a proposal that would pay athletes to help cover living expenses on top of their scholarships during the league's spring meetings this week.
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Good discussion point...
Selby on the list of sleepers and the belief that Bill Self’s system is limiting one and dones continues to gain steam. I think this is a bad thing when we talk about recruiting in the future.
When Xavier was recruited, my friends and I talked about how we’d have him for 2 years because Self’s system wouldn’t produce a one-and-done. Obviously, we’ve been wrong 2 straight years, although I think it’s pretty obvious that neither has had a true one-and-done season. And like you mention, recruits are picking up on that, and will continue to do so.
However, I don’t think that’s a very bad thing. It may end up taking us out of the running for the top ten or so guys, but I think there’s an argument to be made that we’d be better off. Would you rather have Darrell Arthur for 2 years, or Michael Beasley for 1? Brandon Rush for 3, or John Wall for 1?
Honestly though, it may (and should) end up a moot point anyway, because this rule has to change.
Hopefully you're right, and the point ends up being moot
The “one and done” system hurts the players, the college game, and the NBA. The effect on the college game is obvious and well-documented. Players are being forced to go through the motions at a college where they don’t necessarily want to be. The NBA still finds themselves drafting off pure speculation, since one year of college doesn’t give them much new information, and kids who aren’t ready still populate much of the draft.
This benefits no one, and hopefully it goes away soon.
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ie Josh Selby
The NBA still finds themselves drafting off pure speculation
And maybe he’ll turn into a very good pro. But the player I saw this year didn’t show that in actual games, so I’m going to stay in wait and see mode with him. I’ve seen enough NBA gm’s screw themselves falling in love with hype and athleticism to question a lot of the talk we’ll be getting over the next month.
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I disagree
I don’t think the NBA likes having to draft guys like Selby, DeAndre Jordan, Daniel Orton, etc. who aren’t even starters on their college teams based off the projection that they’ll turn into NBA talents. It would be much more beneficial for them to see two solid years of college play out of these kids before they invest millions of dollars in them.
It seems like the NBA is kind of ambivalent on the whole situation
and until they start to care, I don’t think the rule won’t change.
I can’t imagine though that an NBA team wouldn’t prefer to coach a kid up themselves if he is an obvious one-and-done type talent rather than sending him to college for a year. Seems like if they took the one-and-done rule out, kids who have the talent get to go to the league, NBA coaches get these players earlier in their development and can better teach them ‘their way’ of playing, and scholarships go to kids who need development and/or care about getting an education.
I agree that the system may not be conducive to one and dones
but there aren’t many that are. I also think that Selby missing so many games and playing injured certainly hurt things. Of course, that won’t bother Kyrie Irving. Then again, Duke isn’t a system designed for one and dones either so he’s an anomaly.
I do think it will hurt us with Top-10 caliber recruits. Why come here and compete against veterans that know the system and already have a leg up, when you can go to Kentucky and be surrounded by freshman and other role players. It’s much easier to shine and establish leadership on a team surrounded by peers than it is to shine on a team that has more established leaders
But, as we all know, rarely is a freshman going to lead you through six games in a tournament.
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If they change it great...
if they don’t then I think Self will still go after the top talent and I also think he does a nice job of blending foundation players with top talent. That said, I think he has to let them play a little more and let them learn from the beginning. Brady and Tyrel had great senior seasons, but if we’re being 100% honest Selby is and should have been a better player but that didn’t happen. Call it suspension, call it injury but both Henry and Selby essentially became spot shooters in the offense.
I get that Self trusts older players and next year it’s going to be the Tyshawn/TRob show, but that might just be what DeAndre Daniels is afraid of after watching Henry become a compliment to the Sherron/Cole hour and Selby a footnote in the Morri season.
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I don't know if I can agree with Self holding Selby back last year...he played a lot before his injury.
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Minutes in each game between suspension and injury.
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On the Big10 thing from Dr. Saturday which I think is a very good point:
• Trickle-down academics. The Big Ten has begun preliminary talks about funneling more scholarship money to football and basketball players in the form of a “cost of attendance” increase, which would ostensibly cover certain living expenses — transportation, clothing, etc. — that their current scholarships don’t cover. Closing the gap would cost schools an extra $3,000 per athlete per year, chump change for the likes of Michigan and Ohio State but a steep proposition for some less-privileged competition; if Title IX extends the proposed increase across all sports, most Division I athletic departments won’t have a prayer of keeping pace.
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