Kansas Football Releases "Pre" Spring Depth Chart
by Owen on Apr 8, 2011 8:00 AM CDT
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PrintWe're about four workouts in at this point in terms of Kansas' Spring football season and last night the KUAD released the "pre" Spring depth chart. More or less this serves as a starting point with a post spring depth chart probably carrying more weight. Nonetheless it's interesting to look at.
Offense
LT - Jeff Spikes, Gavin Howard LG - Trevor Marrongelli, Tom Mabry C - Jeremiah Hatch
RG - Duane Zlatnik, Randall Dent RT - Tanner Hawkinson, Michael Martinovich
TE - Tim Biere, Ted McNulty/AJ Steward X - Christian Matthews, Erick McGriff
H - Daymond Patterson, Kale Pick Z - Chris Omigie, DJ Beshears FB - Nick Sizemore
TB - James Sims, Deshaun Sands QB - Jordan Webb/Quinn Mecham
Injured - Riley Spencer, Rell Lewis
Defense
DE - Toben Opurum, Tyrone Sellers DT - Pat Dorsey, John WIlliams DT - Richard Johnson, Kevin Young
DE - Keba Agostino SLB - Steven Johnson, Prinz Kande MLB - Steve Mestan, Darius Willis
WLB - Huldon Tharp, Chea Peterman NB - None FC - Tyler Patmon SS - Bradley McDougald, Ray Mitchell
FS - Keeston Terry/Lubbock Smith BC - Greg Brown, Anthony Davis
Injured - Isiah Barfield
A few things catch the eye on this early on:
- As mentioned yesterday Jeff Spikes at LT and Hawk at RT. Also note the switch of sides between Zlatnik and Marrongelli.
- The player pairings at receiver certainly vary. Omigie and Beshears aren't exactly the same player. Also surprising to see Beshears at the two spot based on his importance a year ago. Probably a message of some sort.
- SIzemore grabbing the FB spot.
- Sims as the one at TB is expected. Sands at the two for the moment, but can he hold on to that with the increased competition.
- Webb/Mecham even headed into Spring.
- End looks thin again based on the depth chart, but it's also a position with two players in Toben and Keba that showed tremendous upside.
- Kande on the two deep at linebacker.
- Mestan ahead of Willis. Mestan was supposedly in the mix last year as well. Is this the real deal or forcing Willis to earn the spot through competition.
- A true 4-3 as opposed to the nickel look we've been used to of late.
- Lubbock Smith still at FS although rumors swirl that he will be working in at LB as well.
- Good competition in the defensive backfield.
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I didn't know about Spikes/Hawkinson...
I’ll be very curious to see how that develops. They obviously know a lot more than I do, but unless Spikes can set his feet a WHOLE lot faster than last time we saw him, this is very concerning.
Don't believe this for a second.
Webb/Mecham even headed into Spring.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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That's the problem with the KU football fanbase
For the most part, they just don’t BELIEVE.
Come on Warden, you gotta BELIEVE.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
Where is Jimmay?
All hype?
I guess I had expected him on the 2-deep behind Biere. Yeah, I know it’s only been four days……..but still.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
This was actually set...
prior to spring starting but just released.
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I really hope the QB play improves
because Omegie and Matthews both look like great downfield options. It will be a shame if we have to continue running an offense where none of the passes go more than 5 yards beyond the LOS.
Also, Sands at RB2? I don’t believe for a second that won’t change by the end of spring. Based on what we saw of DeShaun last year I’d expect Bourbon to be in front of him.
At DT, I’m really hoping for Young to excel with the position change. Let’s face it, we’ve seen what the Dorsey/Johnson/Williams rotation looks like, and it doesn’t cut it in the Big 12.
by PenguinHawk on Apr 8, 2011 9:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Another thought
If we eliminate the nickel back this year, who are our starting corners once Barfield is back? Patmon was our best DB last year, and Barfield was definitely our most consistent cover corner. But then everything I’ve heard says Greg Brown is starting to live up to his potential. Are we finally developing some quality depth at CB?
by PenguinHawk on Apr 8, 2011 9:21 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
it won't be completely eliminated...
most of the work so far has been base and nickel. They are also looking at some 3-4 looks.
If it was completely eliminated I think I’d put my money on Barfield and Brown right now.
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I think they need to can the 3-4 stuff right now
Ask Georgia Tech how it goes in a 3-4 with an undersized NT.
by PenguinHawk on Apr 8, 2011 9:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Here are some of my thoughts:
1. Who the eff is Steve Mestan? Never heard of him before.
2. If this is a PRE-spring depth chart, it’s kind of weird that they’ve already penciled in Tharp as a starter. Last I heard, he still wasn’t 100% healthy.
3. Like Rivet said, where is Jimmay?
4. Like Penguin said, there’s no way Sands is the #2 RB. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out at the end of spring practice.
5. Has anyone heard anything about John Williams lately? The last I heard, he dropped a ton of weight last year and was fairly ineffective. He always seemed to be such a beast, and I kind of hoped he’d actually do something at DT.
I have no idea who the hell John Williams is (apart from the composer)
Now, if you meant Big John Williams, then yes, I know who that is
Shit happens when you win championships
I don't know if you'd call him Big John anymore.
Didn’t he lose like 40lbs? I think it was either Torbush or Grimes that had the theory that he was trying to impress a girl. lol
This depth chart ...
… seems to have one purpose and that is to give the fans something to talk about. I think this will change significantly by the time the season starts. To me it’s not worth spending much time on.
Or maybe for motivation of certain players.
I agree that there’s certainly something not quite right with this depth chart.
And it's working!
seems to have one purpose and that is to give the fans something to talk about.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Field Corner and Boundary Corner
The Boundary corner is normally the stronger of the two since it’s easier for opposing teams to throw to the short side of the field. The Field corner gets the wide side of the field and normally gets help over the top.
by Jorge_Thorogood on Apr 10, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
This depth chart
is clearly listing incumbents ahead of challengers, even when there is zero chance of it staying that way. Willis is far ahead of Mestan. Mundine is ahead of McNulty/Steward. Bourbon is about 6 inches, 40 pounds, and 0.3 seconds ahead of Sands at RB. The starting lineup on 9/3/11 will look very different.
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