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Putting The Finishing Touches On Kansas Basketball Recruiting For 2011

When the final horn sounded in San Antonio the Jayhawks had three scholarship openings for sure.  Brady Morningstar, Mario Little and Tyrel Reed had all exhausted their eligibility and Kansas at that point had one player signed in four-star East Coast point guard Naadir Tharpe.

Fast forward a few weeks and the Jayhawks suddenly sit with seven openings.  Marcus and Markieff Morris elected for early entry into the NBA draft as expected.  Freshman guard Josh Selby elected to do the same despite a first year campaign falling well short of expectations.  The final piece dropped when the other member of the 2010 class, Royce Wooldridge, announced that he would be transferring in search of immediate playing time.

Following the twins annoucement the Jayhawks were able to secure commitments and signed letters of intent from five-star St. Louis guard Ben McLemore and a three-star power forward out of Canada Braeden Anderson.  For those keeping score at home, and most Jayhawk fans do, that puts Kansas at three scholarships filled and four to go.

With that in mind, what finishing touches are Bill Self, Danny Manning, Curtis Townsend and Joe Dooley working to secure?  And looking even further, how does the final makeup of this group play into recruiting in 2012 and a class that Kansas looks to have plenty of traction.

Star-divide

2011

The remainder of the 2011 class seems heavily focused on three individuals.  Jamari Traylor, DeAndre Daniels and Trevor Lacey.

 

DeAndre Daniels

Daniels is the player that Kansas fans are likely most familiar with as the 6'8" small forward was nearly enrolled mid year this past season for the  Jayhawks.  While Daniels could drop down and play minutes at the four, he is a very legitimate threat as a wing type player in the mold of someone like Texas forward Jordan Hamilton.  Daniels visited Kansas in December, his friend and former teammate Christian Garrett joined the Jayhawks in January and Daniels was considered a strong lean to do the same. 

This past weekend Daniels did take a trip to Duke where departing guard Kyrie Irving has indicated Daniels will play, but the Daniels camp is stating a decision will be made between Kansas, Duke and Texas in the near future.  Texas had initially landed Daniels in an early commitment before pulling out an re-opening his recruitment and many believe this to be a two horse race between Kansas and Duke.  Daniels coach is tied to the Duke program and Duke probably plays a style that would be appealing to Daniels, but the competition is also very stiff.  At Kansas, Daniels would most likely step in and play immediately and the opportunity for minutes at multiple positions is very good. 

Yesterday's announcement that a very similar player, Alex Murphy, would reclassify to the 2011 class and head to Duke this fall is certainly a benefit to the Jayhawk argument, but at this point his final destination is anyone's guess.

Jamari Traylor

Traylor is an athletic 6'7" power forward from IMG Academy in Florida.  Same place as Daniels.  Traylor recently visited Oklahoma State and it was briefly reported that he had committed, but now appears set to visit Kansas this weekend.  Again, playing time is a huge selling point for Kansas as the Jayhawks have Thomas Robinson as a proven post presence and Jeff Withey or Justin Wesley as two yet to be seen options.  Braeden Anderson is coming in, but some see Traylor as a more explosive and better prepared player despite some concern over the fact that he's listed at just 6'7"

Traylor's decision shouldn't have much bearing on Daniels and if Kansas puts on the full court press it would seem like they have a TON to sell a player like Traylor based on the current situation in Lawrence and their past success with bigs.

Trevor Lacey

Lacey is a four-star shooting guard out of Alabama.  It's long been expected that he would decide between Alabama or Kentucky depending on what happened with the Wildcat early entries, but Bill Self and Kansas have joined the party late and they appear to have made some inroads. 

Lacey is a scorer and his outside shot is what has many excited.  With Selby leaving, that opened the door for a player like Lacey to come in and compete and with Bill Self's love of the combo guard and the Jayhawks need in terms of an outside threat, there are minutes to give to a player like Lacey.

Lacey and his father have been very complimentary of Kansas in interviews across the Rivals network and they have stated that a visit WILL take place before a decision is made.  His interest in Kentucky is very strong as well though and if Brandon Knight departs, that could be a destination but he'll still face substantial competition for minutes based on Doron Lamb returning and the players they already have coming in.  Alabama may be the forgotten school at the moment, but they also might be the leader after the Crimson Tide had a strong year and are in Lacey's backyard.

 

2012

What all this means for 2012 is that most likely Self and the Kansas staff would ideally like to secure all three of these players in a perfect world and head to 2012 banking one scholarship to go along with three others opening up following Tyshawn Taylor's, Connor Teahan's and what many expect to be Thomas Robinson's final year.

That gives the Jayhawks four scholarships heading into 2012 that they can most likely count on and push for during the fall signing period.  Primary targets include:

Nino Jackson - 6'2" PG - Ardmore, OK

Jackson has been over the top in complimenting Kansas and talking about how much he likes Kansas, but a commitment still hasn't happened. 

J-Mychel Reese - 6'1" PG - Bryan, TX

There is a lot of speculation that Reese is a heavy Kansas lean but it's early and a lot can change.  Kansas certainly would look appealing to any point guard though considering Taylor will be exiting.

Shabazz Muhammad - 6'5" SG - Las Vegas, NV

This seems to be THE name floating around right now in terms of a player with an elite scoring ability.  Competition will be stiff for Muhammad but Self and the staff have made it clear that he's a priority.

Perry Ellis - 6'8" PF - Wichita, KS

It has to get done.  It's not a given just because he's from in State but it sure seems you can count on one hand the number of games Ellis has missed over the last few years. Memphis, Kentucky, K-State, OU and Wichita St. also on his list.

Kaleb Tarczewski - 7' C - Southborough, MA

Another one that Kansas needs to land.  They've been on him early, he's been high on Kansas and the Jayhawks have managed to get a good majority of their bigs paid by someone in the NBA during the Bill Self era.  Kansas was one of the earliest teams on him and that's an advantage, but Roy Williams and North Carolina just threw their hat in the ring and they've done alright with bigs as well.

COMMITTED

Zach Peters - 6'9" PF - Plano, TX

Peters is already committed so that takes one spot.  Most likely Kansas will have three to go. 

 

Plenty of recruiting to be done.  Realistic scenario might see the Jayhawks land two of the three remaining targets for 2011 leaving the total open spots after next season at five assuming no other defections or early entries.  It's hard to say which would be the most beneficial two as Daniels and Lacey are probably the most polished and could provide some scoring punch, but Traylor might be a much needed body on the interior. 

Moving to 2012 Kansas has Peters and a class of Ellis, Tarczewski, Reese and Nino could realistically happen based on the speculation that Kansas is at or near the top for all five.  If Muhammad fell into place somewhere along the way Bill Self will have the Jayhawks right back in the thick of it.  Of course, that could very well be the case next year depending on how things come to a close.

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Knight, Jones, and Liggins

all departing Kentucka.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

sans agents, for now.

But yeah, they’re gone, at least Knight and Jones.

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by Bensa on Apr 20, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I think it’s a matter of time before they sign. Too bad too cause you almost got a feeling that Knight may have wanted to stay but Cal was pushing him to the door a bit.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seems odd to push a kid out.

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by Owen on Apr 20, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, when you've promised

yet another one-and-done behind him all those minutes…

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by Bensa on Apr 20, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Out with Knight, in with Teague.

I think the idea was Cal needed a couple people to leave to open up promised playing time. Plus, this is probably a great draft for both Knight and Jones to be in.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Knight is going to be a top 8 pick...

next year’s draft is going to be loaded unless the NBA approves the 2 year requirement that is floating around right now. Teague made it clear that he wanted Knight to stay, so I dont think your alleged “promised” playing time isnt accurate. Also, your chances of landing Lacey just took a BIG hit!

by UKfan2011 on Apr 20, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Noticed you didn't dispute

Cal nudging some players out.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cal is ALWAYS looking out for his players first...

Who wouldnt want these guys to come back for another year – it could be 6 first round picks in 2012!!! Cal is looking at two lottery picks in Jones and Knight at which is going to be a below average draft. In the case of Liggins, he was raised by his grandmother in the projects of Chicago and has a young son…Cal believes he can play in the NBA and thinks he should go through the process to see where he stands. He has a chance of coming back to UK if the workouts arent up to his standards.

by UKfan2011 on Apr 20, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sheesh, never ends with this guy

Yes, you got awesome recruits! OMG woooooooo hoooooooooooooo

Get back to me when Kentucky wins a title again. Until then, I don’t care what Kentucky’s players said, what your lexington newspaper is reporting, etc.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 20, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

As reported in the Louisville paper...

UK signee Marquis Teague, the next point guard for the Wildcats, has an opinion on the subject.

“I want to play with the best players possible, I want to play in the same backcourt with Brandon,” Teague said in a recent interview. “I want him to come back because having the best players gives us the best chance to win.” Teague also had a thought on what would happen if Knight stays: “I think we could really make it a lot of trouble in the SEC if he comes back.”

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/jodydemling/2011/04/15/marquis-teague-hoping-brandon-knight-stays/

Dont be jealous UK has most wins and is 2nd in national championships!

by UKfan2011 on Apr 20, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't aware

Coach Cal was to run his program on the advice of his recruits. Cal saw the writing on the wall, and that writing was that if all his players stayed, some of his recruits would not. How can you even argue this?

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

All four UK recruits signed last year...

and are arriving this summer to get ready for the year…unlike Bill Self scrambling around trying to find some bodies in the last minutes of recruiting!

by UKfan2011 on Apr 20, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

That seals it:

Cal >>>> HCBS. clearly.

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by Bensa on Apr 20, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Self has a title

Calipari doesn’t. I’ll trust him and his crazy recruiting.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 20, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because Self

doesn’t tell his recruits, “hey come here, I’ll make sure there’s a spot” and then force players out the door.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Triston--

Nice to read your thoughts on another platform!

On the Kentucky-Cal debate, I do think Cal encouraged Knight and Jones (as well as Liggins) to declare, but he by no means is “pushing them out.” I think he would personally love to have Knight back and would welcome the headaches that could come from splitting PG duties with Teague. After all, it did work with Wall/Bledsoe (and to an extent, Knight/Lamb), and it can be argued that Knight may actually flourish more as an off-guard that’s strictly looking to score rather than distribute (from a statistical standpoint, not from a getting into the NBA standpoint). Further, Cal knows that Knight is a model student and student-athlete; it’s not like Knight is a troublemaker that Cal is looking to fly the coop.

The “push” is rather Cal’s philosophy. His ultimate goal is what’s best for the kids. He recruits these guys so that they can one day play in the Association, and if that comes at the sacrifice of National Championships, then so be it. No, it’s not optimal from a “championship or bust” standpoint, but the other benefits that Cal’s school gets (in the form of increased exposure, buzz, revenue $$$) is enough to offset the lack of championships (so long as you’re winning enough to keep those benefits). Will he win a championship one day? I think it’s likely, though by no means definite. Will he win it with players he convinces that stick around, or one-and-dones? I’m not sure. But he’s not going to jeopardize a kid’s future by telling him that it’s in his best interest to stay an extra year so Kentucky has a better chance at winning a National Title.

With Knight and Jones, their stock may never be higher, especially with next year’s draft as crowded as it’s getting. So he encourages them to test the waters. Same with Liggins as a junior. It appears he also advised them not to hire agents just yet, leaving open the possibility they can return in 3 weeks if they don’t like where their path is headed. I wouldn’t call that pushing, just good advice. Just my 2 cents.

I do find it interesting that this KU recruiting thread has someone devolved into a Kentucky debate. I’m definitely intrigued by what’s happening this late in the game in Kansas recruiting. I suppose we can thank the Morri and Selby departing early for that.

What are y’all’s thoughts on Daniels? I thought for sure he was going to commit to Duke after his visit, but then again, maybe I shouldn’t be surprised he’s still undecided. The Lacey situation is intriguing as well. The Birmingham News had reported that Lacey had already decided on his school (thought to be Bama or Kentucky), but now he’s got Kansas in the mix as well? Guess he wasn’t as decided as we thought.

by jc25 on Apr 20, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like our chances with Daniels more than Lacey at this point. Daniels not committing during the Duke visit was big. I think Alex Murphy’s commitment also starts to crowd the minutes. At Kansas he has playing time the day he walks in the door.

With Lacey it seems like wishful thinking to jump in so late and pull a player when a decision was already said to have been made. That said, Self has done some pretty remarkable things in the past.

I think of the three mentioned above Kansas probably benefits the most with Daniels and then Lacey or Traylor can both fill different needs, though not quite as pressing.

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by Owen on Apr 20, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps "pushed" wasn't the right word

but the end result was the same. What I was getting at is that Cal needed some people to go. Sure, he wouldn’t argue if Knight insisted on staying but it wouldn’t look good with all these new kids coming in expecting playing time. Someone would have been shafted and on the outside looking in. To prevent this, Cal encouraged some players to go.

And really, he probably should have. Like I said in an earlier comment, “this is probably a great draft for both Knight and Jones to be in.”

As for the thread devolving, I blame UKFan2011. I won’t assume him to be your brethren and know better than to lump you in with him. Good to see you again, jc.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, there

might have been some instigation on RCT commenters’ part as well.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

huh, typing asterisks turned the word bold (*might*)

who knew?

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The guy that invented html

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 20, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best for the kids?

Or best for his chosen agents bank roll? Knight could certainly use some seasoning. More than anyone else maybe in history he’s made it clear he’d rather stay. Unfortunately cal has long since sold him to an agent and a couple high school kids on starting.

by bigreed on Apr 20, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not jealous at all. See the thing is, I don't give a shit

I don’t care about Kentucky. Contrary to what Kentucky fans think, Kansas fans, pretty much all non-Kentucky fans, don’t care.

The ONLY thing about your program that interests me is that your coach had two Final 4s vacated at two different programs (wow) and is the sleaziest coach in college athletics. That is pretty funny.

Everything else though, don’t care. See, my memory doesn’t go back that far. I remember KU winning a title a couple years ago. And I know we’ve won our league seven straight times and own our rivals so bad its almost uncomfortable. Apart from that… don’t care.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 20, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Back when black players weren’t allowed to play. Same game as now for sure.

Actually, in the past 25 years, both KU and Kentucky have the same amount of titles (two). KU has more final 4s, and owned a much harder league (if KU played in the SEC, how many undefeated league seasons would Self have? Three??)

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 20, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Big 12...who else has won ANYTHING in the Big 12???

In the 90’s and 00 decades, SEC has won 5 NCAA BBall Championships from 3 different teams…Big12 has one!!! Big12 basketball is a complete JOKE outside of Kansas…

by UKfan2011 on Apr 20, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

If KU played in the SEC

sure we would dominate, but I don’t like to think about us playing mid major basketball

by fetch9 on Apr 20, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

You will get enough of UK...

when we embarrass you on national tv in Madison Square Garden in November!!!

by UKfan2011 on Apr 20, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is that what you said before the last time we met?

When we beat you soundly in the NCAA tournament?

Or bhow about the time before that, when a team of all freshman and sophomores beat you by like 30 in Lawrence?

Nah, time before that right? When we were missing Wayne Simien (our best player) in 04 and still beat you ON YOUR HOME FLOOR.

Your recent history against us is sad. I wouldn’t talk that smack

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 20, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to be rude, but

link

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by Bensa on Apr 20, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

well played Bensa

one of my favorite moments

Pour yourself a Tim Collins

by labbadabba on Apr 20, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or this

Pour yourself a Tim Collins

by labbadabba on Apr 20, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's phenomenal.

I’ve never seen that before, but I lol’d big time. Thanks.

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by Bensa on Apr 20, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was a 2012 recruit...

had everything in line to graduate in 2011 so he’s headed to Duke a year earlier than originally expected.

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by Owen on Apr 20, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just a quick comment....

I’ll let it all go if no one has a problem with it…but if anyone feels the Kentucky fan and the dialogue that comes with it is getting a little too lowbrow then use the flag option. Otherwise it’s whatever, I’ll let you all police and argue it amongst yourselves.

Just want to stay on top of making sure we don’t turn into the KCStar so I thought I’d throw a reminder out there : )

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by Owen on Apr 20, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd cast my vote for this...

Obnoxious and exactly what makes me avoid KC Star, message boards, etc…

by hiphopopotamus on Apr 20, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it were one long string of blog comments

like the Star, it would be real annoying.

As it is, the format of this blog is part of what makes it so much better. You can see where the string goes and just skip it if you don’t want to mess with it. As long as some are having fun with it, it is fine by me.

by dagger108 on Apr 20, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 for SBN's comment format

That is the key.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't see anything offensive

on the Kentucky fan’s part. A little annoying, a tad trollish maybe, but I didn’t see anything over the line.

Pour yourself a Tim Collins

by labbadabba on Apr 20, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, just pointless and dumb.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Apr 20, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad you noted Conner at the end

I seem to recall reading (here?) that going into this year we had one scholie available, so Coach rewarded Conner. It would be a 1 yr, so available this year if we hadn’t had the 4 early departures, yes?

by dagger108 on Apr 20, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

this is my understanding too

But it should be mentioned that I’ve never seen a scholarship awarded and then taken away later. They’re all one year agreements, but from experience, once you get it you’ll always have it.

by kcgregory on Apr 20, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most of the time yes

But in Teahan’s case, I’m sure he doesn’t mind. His family is well off, I think Self just kind of did a “hey we have a scholly this year” to help em out

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 20, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was stated from the outset that Connor was just getting the scholarship for this year

Since we had an extra schollie available Self wanted to reward Connor for his commitment with it, but it was done with the understanding that Connor would be a walk-on next year if needed. That said, I’m glad it looks like it will work out so that he is still on scholarship, because it would still suck to take one away from a kid.

by 2.1 seconds left on Apr 20, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also because Self wanted to RS Connor

and that’s hard to do when the kid is paying his own way. Basically Self told him that he could spend an extra year at KU and the athletic department would pay for it.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I imagine

you were one that though Brady would just give up his schollie if Self recruited over him too? it just doesn’t happen. regardless, you’re right, it’s good we don’t have to hear/worry about it

by kcgregory on Apr 20, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is also good to have the fans/players and tradition

that says it is worth paying for school to be able to play KU.

by dagger108 on Apr 20, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trevor

Thought I read that he wasn’t nearly as strong with the ball in his hands as he was a catch and shoot type player. Seems that he benefit from having a strong PG/distributor more so than being a combo, tho I definitely don’t know much about this.

by dagger108 on Apr 20, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I read the same,

that he’s a 2 not a combo guard – more of a Reed than a Morningstar.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN went ahead and bumped Traylor's height up to 6'8"
Strengths:
Jamari is a tough and strong power forward that is athletic and competes on both ends of the floor. He rebounds at a high rate in and out of his area and is a tough match ups because of his strength and aggressiveness. He runs the floor well and will attack the rim all on clear paths. He will post and drop step or complete a drop off pass through contact. Taylor scores on the perimeter with a rhythm dribble pull up jumper mostly inside 15 feet.

Weaknesses:
He is a good defender but must work to hone his overall skills.

Bottom Line:
Taylor is physically ready for college right now. He has great upside and will be an excellent glue guy or role player on the high major level.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/112516/jamari-traylor

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 stars on Scouts, ESPN, and rivals - probably b/c of the height

b/c otherwise the word is he’s ready to play NCAA-level hoops. If the kid can ball, I’m certainly not scared off by an inch or two short of the typical PF height.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

sign him up...description is perfect...

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by Owen on Apr 20, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

seems like a great piece of clay to be molded by the KU coaches.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 20, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

absolutely

Sounds a lot like a poor man’s Wayne Simien.

by PDXJayhawk on Apr 20, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Odd or approrpiate?

that ESPN would (appear) to misspell Traylor’s last name in their review?

by dagger108 on Apr 20, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

why can't ESPN get their S* figured out?

They’ve got a bad reputation on the recruiting stuff, and sometimes it seems unfounded but other times it’s pretty clear why.

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 21, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody mentioned Julius Randle in 2013.

Apparently he’s really good friends with Peters (they went to the same high school), and is the number 1 recruit for 2013. He’s a power forward with “the motor and rebounding ability of KG, and the offensive ability of Caron Butler and Marvin Williams.”

never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 20, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Too much to be determined at this point...

to start speculating on 2013 lineups. A lot can change in two years of college basketball.

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by Owen on Apr 20, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a Texas fan...

…keep your grubby paws off Julius Randle!

Seriously though, it’ll be a challenge enough for either of us to keep him in the Big 12. Texas and Kansas should be considered the favorites, but don’t discount the blue bloods: Duke, UNC, UK. Randle is an incredible talent and will be highly sought after.

by jc25 on Apr 20, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Randle and the Harrison twins

sure would look nice in Crimson and Blue though.

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by Triston27 on Apr 20, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you were a kentucky fan?

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by Owen on Apr 20, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

UcK Basketball

and UT Football it looks like.

Pour yourself a Tim Collins

by labbadabba on Apr 20, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Psh

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 21, 2011 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dual allegiances are allowed, yes?

University of Texas grad, but Kentucky basketball fan since grade school.

I really enjoy Kansas basketball, though, and love the KU-UT rivalry. Can’t wait until next year when we play twice a year.

by jc25 on Apr 21, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

are you from the State of Kentucky?

That might make it ok. Otherwise you are no different than the kid from Oregon who loved Duke basketball in the 90’s and then conveniently went to USC so he gets to be a USC football fan.

Also if you claim the Yankees and/or Cowboys as your teams that would also be rather damaging to your front runner status that seems to be coming into question.

: )

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by Owen on Apr 21, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I root for both

The Rockies and the Royals.

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by Triston27 on Apr 21, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

well...

there was a time when those were like sister organizations based on their low level of success. I actually do the same.

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by Owen on Apr 21, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you live in Coloradie

That makes sense. I root for the Chiefs and Royals (not like the Packers or Jayhawks though) because I’ve lived in the KC area for ten years (holy crap I feel old)

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 21, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back before the Rockies came along

The Denver Post ran a poll to adopt a MLB team since all Denver had was the minor league Zephyrs. If I remember correctly, the Orioles won. But I still rooted for the Royals because of Bo Jackson.

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by Triston27 on Apr 21, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hah

Grew up in Houston, so at least my UT fandom isn’t in question, yes?

I wasn’t a big CBB fan at first, but my close friend was, and he loved Arizona for some reason. So I picked the “other” Wildcats just to egg him on…it ended up sticking.

Lucky for me, I hate the Yankees and Cowboys!

by jc25 on Apr 22, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

This might sound bad

but what’s wrong with somebody choosing a good team to cheer for as a child and sticking with them? I’m a much bigger KU fan now than I was during the Roy era because I like the team plays under Self. Adding on to the sounding bad part, everybody cussed Dick Vitale because he loves the bluebloods. However, as a basketball enthusiast (which he is) who should he constantly preach?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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by Warden11 on Apr 22, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't allow em

I could never stand the kids who just rooted for teams because they were successful / they liked them. They would show up to school in Dallas Cowboys starter jackets and make fun of me for wearing my Packer one (I hail from a majestic land up north)

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 21, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you were a Linebacker

so I have confidence you put them in their place.

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by Triston27 on Apr 21, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...yeah I did....

::hangs head::

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 21, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

www.oreadboomkings.fantake.com

by Triston27 on Apr 21, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean the 'other' blue bloods?

right? I’m never worried about a big choosing any of those places over Kansas.

by bigreed on Apr 21, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Traylor & Daniels

would make a nice pipeline to IMG.

by dagger108 on Apr 20, 2011 11:49 PM CDT reply actions  

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