Kansas Jayhawk Josh Selby Confirms Entry Into NBA Draft
by Owen on Apr 14, 2011 3:32 PM CDT
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PrintWhether you're a big fan of Twitter or not, that's the method that Josh Selby has used to officially announced his departure from Kansas to the NBA. Reports have been swirling since the season ended that Selby would leave and after heading to Las Vegas to workout for two weeks the writing seemed to be on the wall.
The departure is the third early entrant from the 2010-2011 Kansas Jayhawk Basketball team as Josh Selby joins Marcus and Markieff Morris in departing early. The Jayhawks also graduated three players in Brady Morningstar, Tyrel Reed and Mario Little.
With six departing and an early class of Ben McLemore, Naadir Tharpe and Braedon Anderson, it's likely that Kansas coach Bill Self will continue to try to add players as playing time is available. Potential recruits include DeAndre Daniels, Trevor Lacy and Jamari Traylor.
During his time at Kansas it's likely that Josh Selby was never able to show his true potential after sitting through a nine game suspension and then battling injury. It's a little sad that his departure includes the comment about fans doubting him because he has taken some heat during the wait for what seemed to be the inevitable decision. The fact is it's his decision to make.
Having the top recruit in the country pass through your program brings with it big expectations and unfortunately Selby's time didn't have quite the impact that was initially expected. At the same time he still chose Kansas because he thought it was the best place for him and that's something fans were elated over at the time. Now Kansas fans need to move on, be excited that Kansas could have three players drafted this year and wish him the best because the best thing that can happen now from a Jayhawk perspective is for Josh Selby to succeed at a very high level in the NBA.
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Not suprising. I dont think this is a wise move on his part but best of luck to him
I thought it was hilarious that @fakejoedooley beat him to the punch and announced his departure before Selby had the chance
I'd echo that
I think we’ve all “known” he was declaring for the last week. I’ve seen some sites projecting him as low as mid-second round, but hey, it’s his call. He could have gone anywhere, but he chose KU. He’s a Jayhawk. I wish him the best.
In all fairness
you have no idea what his production next year could have been. I still believe an in-shape, uninjured Josh Selby would have made this a very different season for us. I won’t say he would have been dominant, but you don’t get ranked the #1 recruit in the country without having some serious talent.
Projections based on what?
I would have to imagine the projections based on his first nine or so games before the injury would be pretty freaking good
A healthy Josh Selby
was leading the team from 3 w/ 53%.
Some people might project a player to be injured but if healthy Josh was great, and will be great at the next level as well.
Extremely small sample.
Even the guys who followed him in high school were shocked at the 3 pt percentage he put up early. He’s not that good of a shooter and he’s not as bad as he was at the end of the year.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Poor kid...
I wish him the best, but I’m fearing the worst for him.
I only follow Tweet's so I don't know, but
is it difficult to write a well structured sentence with correct English? Don’t these kids proof before posting? And what’s with the pot-shot to the fans on his way out? IMO, Selby got nothing but love from the fanbase. Good luck with the draft, wish we got to know you better. Also wish you had better handles and could finish around the rim.
he just referred to the fans who are doubting him
which is, after all, what we’re all doing right now.
eh he caught some flack...
this last few weeks from people. Nothing during the season, but plenty of people judging the decision which is only natural because it doesn’t look like a slam dunk. Another year could have helped him tremendously but he has to do what he has to do.
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Another year?
The assumption there is that he would have played (healthy) better next year than he played injured this year, but if he is now healthy and playing that way for scouts, there is no additinal benefit to playing next year.
We perceive an additional year to be beneficial only because our perception doesn’t include the workouts he has had for the past 2 weeks.
He also caught plenty of flack, even here, during the season.
That's six guys from the regular rotation departing this year if you count Selby and Little...
as part of the nine-ten man rotation. I would sure think that would look attractive to a guy like Daniels and then Lacey who is coming in on a visit now. Those are two top 50 players that could see immediate minutes at Kansas.
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I could see this as being a big draw for Daniels. It seems all but a sure thing that he signs with Duke this weekend though.
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I'm guessing...
that Lacey’s recent announcement that he would visit Kansas had a tremendous amount to do with Selby leaving and the coaches knowing that.
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maybe this has changed?
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that was before the in-home
And he announced he was visiting KU after the in-home.
This from yesterday’s LJW:
Lacey told Rivals.com on Tuesday he will visit Alabama this weekend and likely KU the following weekend. He has a final list of KU, Alabama, Auburn, UConn and Kentucky.
"My interest in Kansas is serious," Lacey told Rivals. "Coach Self is a great coach, Kansas is a winning program and they’ve got playing time available for me. A few guys are graduating and the Morris twins are leaving early, so I could step in and play right away."
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But that should have looked like this…
Lacey told Rivals.com on Tuesday he will visit Alabama this weekend and likely KU the following weekend. He has a final list of KU, Alabama, Auburn, UConn and Kentucky.
"My interest in Kansas is serious," Lacey told Rivals. "Coach Self is a great coach, Kansas is a winning program and they’ve got playing time available for me. A few guys are graduating and the Morris twins are leaving early, so I could step in and play right away."
I think we have a REALLY good shot with Lacey
People are writing off Daniels but with Alex Murphy reclassifying and playing next year along with Gibijine or whatever, Daniels will be numero tres at his position. Also there are rumors supposedly from Garrett that he is only visiting Duke to appease his IMG duke connections.
Actually...
I have been following the Lacey recruitment very closely and he has been waiting on whether Brandon Knight is going pro…the Lacey recruitment has been a two school race with Alabama and Kentucky…Coach Cal is meeting with Lacey tomorrow morning before he heads to the University of Alabama for the weekend….If Cal convinces him Knight is gone and he will play with Teague and Lamb, expect an announcement to UK shortly after…if not, he stays home and plays for the home folks.
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From Alabama paper....4/12/11
“UK freshman point guard Brandon Knight has yet to announce whether he’ll turn pro early or return to Kentucky. Knight and Lacey don’t play the exact same position – Knight’s a true point and Lacey’s more of a shooting guard – but the Kentucky backcourt could start to get crowded if Knight and Doron Lamb return and Lacey signs.
Kentucky already has signed another point guard for next season in Marquis Teague, rated by ESPN as the No. 7 overall prospect in the class of 2011. UK coach John Calipari showed a year ago with John Wall and Eric Bledsoe that he doesn’t mind playing two point guards at the same time.
Lacey’s good enough to play alongside Knight and Teague, but he may be waiting until after the NBA deadline to see if Knight is going or staying.
Despite Lacey’s statement last week that only he and his high school coach know where he’s going, Doss said Monday he’s still in the dark like everyone else.
Kansas and new national champion Connecticut have appeared on Lacey’s list of five finalists, but basketball insiders seem to think he’ll choose from among Alabama, Auburn and Kentucky, with the decision most likely coming down to Alabama or Kentucky."
Agree that it's a two horse race
between Bammer and UK. But those schools can’t like the idea of him stepping one foot in Lawrence for a visit.
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If Josh is draft along with Morrii
that would make 6 in 2 yrs.
Too bad he got injured
Would have loved to see what could have been. Hope he gets healthy and figures it out.
No way to put it nicely, so here goes:
Its a dumb decision. And its a chicken-sh*t decision.
Any other player with the season Josh had would be back next year. But he can’t face the music. He was the top overall recruit, a proclaimed one and done player, etc. He can’t come back to the disapointment and failed expectations. So he is bolting, come hell or high water.
Its disapointing, because I think he could have been a huge player for us next season. Instead, he will now go early second round (maybe) and likely get burried on the bench, if he even makes a team.
It isn’t smart and its a gutless move, but hey… all the best to him. One more scholarship to use, and when Bill Self is your coach, that can be a truley awesome thing (another late signee like, oh, I don’t know, Brandon Rush please?)
Shit happens when you win championships
Sure, he could have done very well next season,
but if he had another bad season, his NBA dreams would be gone. After 2 bad season, it’s hard to climb back up into the NBA radar. At least now he’s had just one bad season and still has that “potential” that NBA GM’s love.
I’m not saying this was the right decision, but I can understand it. At least he’s giving himself a shot at the NBA, whereas if he came back and flopped that shot would be gone.
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Kemba reinvented himself
And did quite well his third year.
by PDXJayhawk on Apr 14, 2011 5:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He's giving himself the worst possible chance he could
I don’t blame the kid for going pro, it’s his dream, but there’s no question this is a stupid decision longterm. He gets only one or no guaranteed years, will sit on the bench/D-league for a shortened season in a league where it’s really hard to develop without playing time. Dude couldn’t take the pressure that comes with playing for Kansas. Now he better be the best fucking point guard in the league or he’ll get lost in the shuffle
"worst possible chance"?
Like Triston said, his worst possible chance is if he returns and flops again in year 2.
I think this is a savvy case of risk aversion. Yes it limits his ceiling, but it also avoids the worst outcome. He still has “potential”, and he can capitalize on it now. If he really believes he’ll get drafted and stick in the NBA, then it’s actually a “safer” move to go pro now.
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 15, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I still disagree heavily with this.
If this were a reality, he’s going to flop in his workouts and in camp and be cut before playing. How likely do we think that is?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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why is it so hard to accept that the kid probably just never wanted to go to college?
The system forced him to. Now that he doesn’t have to be in college, he’s leaving. That’s not chickenshit. The “one year in college rule” is crap, but the kids get blamed for it.
by PenguinHawk on Apr 14, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It is because if this was anyone else, they wouldn't be leaving
How many guys play one year, then bolt when they are projected as low as he is? How many guys barely play, get slotted as “very late first round at best” then go?
I think he didn’t want to come back and face the failed expectations and hype. You don’t have to agree with it, its just my opinion
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
After these last two weeks I'm glad he's gone.
At least he knows people doubt him, so he’s not oblivious to the fact that people think he’s not good. That makes me think that he is somewhat aware of what’s going on. However, when something doesn’t go your way, quit, move on, jump to the league “just because you can,” and not try harder to improve your standing at the University of Kansas and next year’s NBA Draft. He didn’t accomplish what he wanted to, coaches and fans know he didn’t accomplish what they anticipated. And now he’s angry about that. Hopefully when he’s in the NBA he focuses some of that angry energy to get better because he’s going to need it.
Well I'm going to assume he's working plenty hard now to impress people.
I don’t think it’s a smart decision by him but he will get paid and he is going to get a chance.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Not sure how a GM justifies a late first or early second
Great althete with a ton of upside but probably not big enough to play the 2, didn’t play point in college, turns it over with pressure, didn’t finish well at the rim, inconsistent shot. There are a ton of great guards that don’t make it. He needs another year or two to figure it out. Best of luck though.
All these things and
they translate even more negatively on the defensive end of the floor. X Henry at least had meaningful minutes and still ended up disappearing to the milk carton. I’m probably the worst there is in determining skills translating to the NBA, but I wouldn’t pay him based on his college performance.
I wish him
all the best. I wonder if this changes HCBS recruiting philosopy on the 1 and done player garbage that is college basketball. I would prefer a lower hyped player that stays 3-4 years and develops into a great player. The burden to carry his family financially has to be a big part of the decision to turn pro. Many of us don’t have that type pressure and responsibility at that age. I sincerely wish him the best.
Case and point Tyrel Reed
4 star guy, comes in, improves, contributes a good deal as a junior and a ton as a senior.
I’d take one of those anyday, because when you get a lot of those guys… you are dangerous. And we always have a lot of those guys.
Still, I’m not gonna blame Self for grabbing Selby and Henry.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Reed was 3-star
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Nope, 4
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Apr 15, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
http://northcarolina.scout.com/a.z?s=78&p=8&c=1&nid=2013076
Perhaps Rivals or someone has it different though
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Apr 15, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
That they do
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I think we should have a heated argument about it
Just to spice this thread up…
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by Andrew Clark on Apr 15, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
MORE TASTE!!!!
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 15, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
LESS FILLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 15, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I look forward to watching him in the DLEAGUE!
Seriously, I may be overreacting at the heat of the moment, but I don’t think I will cheer for this guy. I am so ridiculously mad right now.
never forget...
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 14, 2011 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
dont let the door hit ya..
where the dog shoulda bit ya. #$%*#r.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
I'm not sure I understand poeple being "upset" with him
Sure, you can disagree about what the best decision for him was, but what did he do to you, exactly? He was forced to play NCAA for a year, and he chose Kansas. Knowing that he was likely to leave after one season, Kansas and the fans agreed to the arrangement.
He didn’t play as well as maybe he was expected to, but it’s not like he didn’t compete or he just slacked off or something. And now that the season is over, he’s moving on. That was always the deal, and if you weren’t upset that he chose KU to begin with, you can’t be upset now.
Whether it’s the best move for his future is debatable, but it’s just that – a debate – where animosity for him choosing to leave isn’t really part of it.
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 15, 2011 1:57 PM CDT reply actions
Pretty much agree.
I think some of it is anger that he didn’t have a great season. When a 1&Done plays well it is grudgingly acceptable. When he doesn’t, the whole crappy nature of the deal is evident.
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