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Kansas Jayhawk Spring Football Outlook: Safety

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KU will likely enter the 2011 season starting two guys at safety that were both playing offense recently. Each played a whooping two games at safety last season as well. Worried? Terrified? Apathetic? Don't be.

When it is all said and done, Keeston Terry and Bradley McDougald could possibly go down as one of the best safety tandems KU football has had. Bold statement, but if each can develop and improve from the glimpses we saw last season, KU fans have a lot to be optimistic about. Throw in a seasoned Lubbock Smith and some young talent, and there are the makings of a strong defensive backfield along with KU's talented young corners.

What worries me is depth; if the injury bug hits this unit, we will be seeing some guys who may not be ready / should not be playing Big 12 (-2) football.

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Bradley McDougald - 6'1, 195 - Junior (24)

After playing the first ten games as a wide receiver and kickoff returner, McDougald was switched to safety for the last two games of the season. He played well on offense, ranking third on the team in receptions, however Gill and the staff felt he could make a bigger impact on defense. Looking back, it was a very smart move (especially when factoring in all of the talent KU has at the WR position). Bradley recorded eight tackles against Oklahoma State in his first game at safety, and followed that up with five tackles and an interception against Missouri. Not a bad debut. Bradley is currently listed as the starting strong safety.

I may be biased (what am I saying "may"), but I see McDougald turning into an All-Big 12 caliber safety. He looked like a natural at the position last year, and he has the size and speed to cover anyone. Throw in his time at WR (which should help him hang on to more interceptions and read routes) and full-time practice at the position, and I am expecting big things from the junior.  

 

Keeston Terry - 6'2, 185 - Sophomore (9)

A Kansas City native, Keeston originally committed to Kansas as a wide receiver, but was soon moved to safety. Keeston's speed and athleticism got him on the field immediately, and he played very well as a true freshman in the team's first three games before being lost for the season due to injury. He has earned a starting spot at free safety in spring practice, and there is a lot of hype surrounding both he and McDougald.

Keeston looked very good last season, and Kansas fans have to be optimistic about his second season. He is extremely fast, has a nose for the ball, and isn't afraid to jack someone up. His father, Doug Terry played defensive back for KU and the Chiefs, so it's only natural that Keeston become an NFL caliber safety right?

 

Lubbock Smith - 6'0, 206 - Junior (1)

Lubbock "Texas" Smith started nine games at safety last season before missing time at the end of the year due to injury. Smith is a hard hitter and one of the best tacklers on the team. He racked up 48 tackles (good for fourth on the team) and really showed his merit in run support. Smith was a big part of KU's early upset over then-thought-as-really-good Georgia Tech.

There was talk of Lubbock playing some linebacker, which would make sense due to his tackling and run-stopping ability. As a safety, he has struggled at times in pass coverage. KU could use him as a third safety to play in more run-support /blitzing situations (similar to how the Dallas Cowboys used Roy Williams recently).  Interestingly, Lubbock is currently listed behind Terry at free safety, even though he seems like a better fit for strong safety. No matter what his role is, I would expect Lubbock to contribute.

 

Ray Mitchell - 6'1, 183 - RS Freshman (40)

Ray redshirted last year, but he was busy in KU's practices. He earned the distinction of "compete team special teams player of the year" and also picked up "compete team defensive player of the week" during the weeks of the Baylor and Kansas State games.

Ray cracked the spring two deep behind McDougald, and could see the field soon if there is an injury. Not sure what to expect from Mitchell or if he is ready, but he appears to be doing all the right things in practice, and you have to like the praise he has gotten from the coaching staff.

 

Brandon Hawks - 5'10, 189 - Junior (43)

The birdman joined the team as a walk on in the 2008 season, and hasn't really seen much action. The only time he got some playing time last season was a few plays on special teams.

Brandon will likely only see the field on special teams or if someone gets hurt, but his time in the program is valuable. If he sees the field in an emergency situation, at least he has some seasoning.

 

Tyler Hill - 6'0, 200 - Junior (18)

Tyler is a transfer from nearby Washburn and is a bit of an unknown commodity (so much so that KU athletics didn't even have his height listed). He put up big numbers in high school at Lee's Summit, which lead to first team all-league and all-district honors.

 

Five Questions Entering Spring Practice:

 

1)      Can Keeston Terry stay healthy? As a true freshman last year, he looked like the real deal. Hopefully his injury wasn't a sign of things to come.

2)      What role will Lubbock Smith play? Texas had been mentioned as a possible linebacker candidate, and then found himself listed as the third safety in the depth chart. With such little depth, KU likely needs to keep him at safety.

3)      Is Ray Mitchell ready to contribute? The RS Freshman looked the part in practice, but you never know how a guy will react until its game time. If Keeston, McDougald or Smith goes down, Mitchell will be playing a lot. He will probably play a lot anyways.

4)      What will KU's nickel and dime packages look like? Will the Jayhawks bring in another corner or safety for its 5-6 defensive back looks? My guess is CB Isiah Barfield plays the nickel, but you never know.

5)      Brandon Hawks? Tyler Hill? Will either of these guys get any PT? Better yet, if someone gets hurt, are they ready?

 

Position Synopsis

McDougald and Terry are the real deal. They looked good in action last year, and all reports from the coaches and media indicate that both are going to live up to the four star rankings they received in high school. Unfortunately, there isn't a ton of depth here. Lubbock Smith is a great run-stopping safety and will play, however Ray Mitchell has yet to see the field. Remain hopeful that McDougald and Terry keep progressing and live up to their hype... and pray that they don't get hurt.

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Maybe there were some second thoughts

about moving Lubbock to LB since we’re so thin at safety.

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by Triston27 on Apr 14, 2011 8:48 AM CDT reply actions  

We are so thin at safety

that I wonder if Prinz Kande couldn’t be moved back to safety in a pinch.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

I’m still skeptical about the move to LB to begin with. Maybe the staff is expecting great things from incoming Alex Matlock.

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by Triston27 on Apr 14, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matlock is a good size player and can hit...

seems like he would be a pretty good candidate to move to LB at some point if Kande and Smith were. I’m thinking Kande sticks at LB, but Lubbock gets a shot but maybe ends up back at safety.

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by Owen on Apr 14, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of thought the same thing

It is an interesting move because I thought Smith would be better suited at LB than Kande. I also thought Kande would stay at safety and at the very least be the fourth safety on the depth chart / the backup strong safety. Plus we have a lot of bodies at LB…

My guess is:

1) The staff has a lot of confidence in Mitchell and he beat out Kande for the spot
2) Kande might be groomed to play an outside LB role in nickel and dime situations or against pass-happy offenses
3) Kande would be moved back to safety if an injury occurred

Just my two cents.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Might be a football IQ thing with Kande

As you know, Safety (F or S) is a position that requires you to make many calls for the defense, so I wonder if Kande struggled with that more than Lubbock. Playing OLB would allow him to be less in his head (less paralysis by analysis) and more play by instincts which we know he has.

by freudhawk on Apr 14, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Could be

Kande has looked pretty lost at safety when he played. Smith might struggle in coverage but he knows the system and is big in run support.

Our coaches have also praised the football IQs of McDougald and Terry, noting that our defense requires safeties who are smart and can think fast. So the defensive coaches agree with you. Winner.

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

There seems to be a general move towards recruiting safeties

and shifting them to LB, sort of like recruiting DE’s and switching them to DT’s if you can bulk them enough. Farley, Love, Bakare, and maybe a few more have had S by their names in recruiting sites, but talks is of them being LB’s.

by dagger108 on Apr 14, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

it has a lot to do with the advent of the spread

with more colleges throwing the ball on 70% of their plays, a converted safety used to playing coverage is more useful than a traditional linebacker type.

by PenguinHawk on Apr 14, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grad

What’s the deal with the photo? McDougald didn’t play Safety against KSU so I’m assuming he’s tackling after an int?

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2011 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I believe that was when Sands fumbled

and Zimmerman returned it to around our 25.

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by Triston27 on Apr 14, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Man you remember that game better than I do! I’ve tried to flush it from my mind……….

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I envy you.

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by Triston27 on Apr 14, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, he was making a tackle after a turnover

Think of this picture as more of a sign of things to come.

Plus, the only pictures I could find were McDougald on offense, Terry chasing a Southern Miss receiver as he streaked towards the end zone, or Smith missing a guy / on the wrong end of a play. So a lot of bad memories mostly…

So were looking ahead to the future! You see, Rock Chalk Talk tries to take a proactive and progressive stance on sports blogging. Why dwell on the past?

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

something must have flipped over because we used to have a lot more pics at our disposal. It’ll ramp back up obviously once the games get going.

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by Owen on Apr 14, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

no no no no

McDougald eating some KState guy’s lunch

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks to me

like McDougald went too high on that tackle. Shouldn’t he be lower around the knees? Then again, I’ve never played football, so the technique is easy for me to criticize from my armchair!

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

While that is definitely correct on head on tackles...

sometimes tackling from behind that way would leave you with a more likely miss. This is because you would make the move to tackle lower when you are farther behind and if you mis-judge you could fall harmlessly behind the guy. A tackle like he is making would be harder to take the guy down, but also leaves you a lot less likely to miss altogether. (At least that’s how I’d look at it. I played HS football but was mainly on offense anyway, not really an expert)

by FLJhawk on Apr 14, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, as a former outside LB (and a bad one at that), I can tell you

1) Yes, by going high there (from behind) he at least is going to get his arms around that cat. If you dive for the legs, knees, you have a much higher chance of missing.
2) By jumping on his back, he has a shot to pop the ball out with his free arm (wrap with one arm, tomahawk chop with the other). This is especially a good idea when tackling a defender who isn’t used to carrying the ball

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

And by "bad"

you mean bad mofo right? Or do you really mean “bad” as in poor.

Naw, don’t answer. I’m gonna think of you as a bad mofo. It’s more fun.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

::quickly nods head::

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...ouch

Thats when one of the hard chinstraps comes in handy. Me, I always wore one of the underwear chinstraps:

Except mine was black. And then I put a wrist band over it cuz I thought I was cool

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those underwear chinstraps suck.

I still have a scar from catching a helmut to the chin during high school. After that, I switched to one of the hard plastic ones.

by ISellDrugs on Apr 14, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

They do

I don’t know why I wore it. I think I grabbed one in two a days because it was so hot and just got used to it…

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what I remember . . .

The soft fabric ones would stay in place a little better. Those plastic chinstraps would tend to slide off my chin, but they offered better protection.

by ISellDrugs on Apr 14, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

being a lineman

I had a nice extended facemask.

Pour yourself a Tim Collins

by labbadabba on Apr 15, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

With about 8 crossbars?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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by Warden11 on Apr 15, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know . . .

I’m feeling better and better about this team, and that’s without the huge influx of freshman coming in this fall. Athlete-wise, I really like where our program is headed.

by ISellDrugs on Apr 14, 2011 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

FB confusion

It appears that I am confused about the distinction between SS & FS. I always thought the SS was more of a run support oriented while the FS was a bit more pass protect oriented.

In a recent LJW article (Matt Tait?) on Safeties, they quoted Keeston as being the hitter (run support) and Bradley as being the interceptor (pass support), and yet they are listed the other way around. Most of you know a lot more about FB and the ’Hawks than I do, so hopefully one of you can shed some light.

Thanks

by dagger108 on Apr 14, 2011 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd say natural instincts...

Terry showed a great ability to work downhill and make a hit in the Tech game while McDougald showed more of the ball hawking ability in his limited action late. Not sure what that means in terms of how they are listed I haven’t looked into it too much but thought I’d throw a quick response based on what I’ve seen the two do.

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by Owen on Apr 14, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct

Which is also why I wrote this about Lubbock Smith above: “Lubbock is currently listed behind Terry at free safety, even though he seems like a better fit for strong safety”

My guess is since McDougald is the bigger of the two, and Terry is the quicker, thats how they factor into those roles.

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right...

strong safety lines up on strong side of the field and is more run-oriented.

As for why they’re listed the other way, I have no idea.

by hiphopopotamus on Apr 14, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

True to some extent

While FS and SS tend to be as you state, it really depends on the defense you are in and what their responsibilities are. Cover 1 is all FS playing center field, while Cover 2 the FS plays half and the SS plays the other deep half. Of course, there are tons of options on defense so I won’t list them all.

I agree with Owen, that alot is just natural insticts as well.

by freudhawk on Apr 14, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lots of converted safteties at LB

Does that factor into the nickle back scenario?

Could it be that we switch fewer players to run a “nickle”? If Kande or Smith or another converted saftey is playing LB, could it be that they stay in the game and just switch their responsibilities?

by dagger108 on Apr 14, 2011 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

It might be an effort to get more speed at LB

And the easiest way to boost speed at LB is to move a DB to LB. The staff wants as much speed on the field as possible (especially on D).

Like I said earlier, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kande or some of the converted guys are being groomed for a pass situation only role. Similar to how some teams use certain smaller, quicker defensive ends for third down/pass situations. If the other team is in 3rd and 8 (God willing, with our team) there are advantages to playing a quicker guy like Kande at LB compared to a Steven Johnson type.

And, if nothing else, it gives you more matchup options and flexibility

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

from the ESPN Big12 blog wrt OU

“Oklahoma plays a hybrid nickel back as its third linebacker, where Tony Jefferson played last year ahead of upperclassman Joe Ibiloye and won Big 12 co-Defensive Freshman of the Year. He’s worked some at a traditional safety this spot, but he’s clearly a rising star.”

by dagger108 on Apr 14, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Kerry" Terry?

When I watched Keeston’s dad play at K.U. and later for the Chiefs I am almost positive his first name was Doug.

by kansas oats on Apr 14, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

I think I might have accidently used his mother's name

Sorry about that. I’m young.

Recent purchase of a house and endless moving things, yardwork, etc has destroyed what sanity and sense I had left.

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have Terry listed as a sophomore

but I was under the impression he still qualified for the medical redshirt last year, and would be a RS Freshman this year. Is that wrong?

by PenguinHawk on Apr 14, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

It's in the way that medical redshirts are given...

They are granted after eligibility is exhausted. They fully expect to get it and actually I think they already have, but I believe he is still listed as sophomore.

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by Owen on Apr 14, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

KU . . .

Does list him as a sophomore. I’ve read that he’s already been approved for the extra year, though. Grad, you continue to impress me.

by ISellDrugs on Apr 14, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by Andrew Clark on Apr 14, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have heard a lot of good things about mitchell

He may get some time if/when keeston or bradley get tired. He was way underrated comming in. He can lay the wood and is fast

by dester30 on Apr 14, 2011 2:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Safety has a chance

to be our strongest position. Some of those skills may not show if we fail to improve our pass rush. I’m convinced we’ll never know how good our defensive backfield can be until we get a better pass rush and they don’t have to cheat so hard to provide run support. It starts in the line.

by Red Lion on Apr 14, 2011 6:09 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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