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Kansas Jayhawk Spring Football Outlook: Cornerback

Slightly out of order, but Grad was on top of this and I was running behind with the LB's.  So we'll go corners today, LB's tomorrow, safeties on Thursday, specialists on Friday.

KU has plenty of depth and talent at CB; however we are still waiting to see how that translates to the field. This is an area that both Mangino and Gill have been able to do well in terms of recruiting, and this group appears to have a ton of potential.

Last season, KU’s corners struggled, especially at tackling. A lot of small completions turned into long touchdowns, and this is an area that the Jayhawks will have to improve in. Big plays were a big problem for the defense, but hopefully another year of seasoning will help our defensive backs play tighter coverage and bring their guys down.

I think continuity is the key for this group’s development, and it appears that our secondary will not have a lot of guys changing positions this offseason or being thrown to the fire before they are ready.

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Tyler Patmon – 5’11, 180 – Sophomore (33)

After redshirting his first year at KU, Patmon was able to quickly move up the depth chart last year as a RS Freshman, eventually assuming the role of nickel back. Tyler started nine games at nickel corner in KU’s 4-2-5 base scheme, racking up 45 tackles, two interceptions, and 10 passes defended. He is remembered most for his monster game against Colorado - he had five tackles, one interception, one recovered fumble returned for a score and three passes broken up. He followed that game with an interception and two passes broken up at Nebraska. Tyler broke out as a playmaker in Big 12 play, and his development helped KU improve defensively as the season progressed.

With KU shifting to a more traditional 4-3-4 look next year, Patmon has been listed as a starting CB. It will be interesting how he transitions from playing on the slot guys to being outside, but he could still play more of the nickel role in passing situations. His playmaking ability and nose for the ball should continue to be a big boost to the defense.

 

Greg Brown – 5’11, 185 – Junior (5)

Greg arrived at KU with a ton of talent and speed; unfortunately it took him a while to translate his physical skills to on-the-field success. Towards the end of last season, he had a bit of a coming out party, and now seems ready to become one of the better corners in the league. Greg eventually earned a starting spot, starting the final five games of the season, and played well – averaging seven tackles a game over this span and grabbing an interception against Missouri.

Brown appears to be turning into the player many thought he could be. He should start next season and will hopefully continue to put up the kind of numbers he did at the end of last year.

 

Isiah Barfield – 5’11, 185 – Senior (19)

Isiah started all twelve games for KU last season, however he is not participating in spring practice due to injury. Barfield had been a bit of a journeyman before locking up the starting CB role last season, spending most of his time on special teams and also having a stint at WR.

Barfield played ok last year, grabbing two picks and picking up plenty of tackles. However, his injury and the emergence of Patmon and Brown appear to have him a bit on the outside looking in at the moment. Starting or not, his experience will help him see plenty of time on the field this fall.

 

Anthony Davis – 5’11, 205 – Senior (30)

Anthony is a guy who always seems to be listed in the two and three deep, but has yet to make much of an impact as a Jayhawk. He served as a backup all of last season, registering 14 tackles for the year. This was a bit of a setback for Anthony, as he started the 2009 season opener as well as the final three games of the season. 

At this point, it appears as if Davis’ time to become a significant contributor is running out. That being said, he has an opportunity this spring to turn some heads, and his experience at the college level could pay off.

 

Corrigan Powell - 5’11, 180 – Junior (10)

Like Davis, Powell is a player who has seen less and less action on the field as his career at KU has progressed. As a freshman, Corrigan saw action in KU’s first nine games of the season, and even registered a start again Texas Tech. Despite plenty of opportunities during the Mark "I’m going to rotate every single guy I have at corner until one of them plays well" Mangino reign of terror, Corrigan never turned any heads. As a result, he barely played last season, and didn’t register any statistics. 

Powell got his chances, but never really looked comfortable out there. He has a lot of work to do to get back into the mix at CB next season.

 

Dexter Linton - 5’11, 200 – Sophomore (32)

Dexter has yet to see any playing time for the Jayhawks, but he appears talented enough to make an impact sometime soon. He was rated in the top 100 high school players from the state of Texas while earning a three star rivals ranking and a spot on the prestigious Fighting 5.7s.

Dexter has the talent to become a player, yet he may have to wait another year before seeing significant minutes.

 

Dexter McDonald – 6’1,194 – RS Freshman (27)

Why have one Dexter in your defensive backfield when you could have two? This Dexter has the honor of being the only cornerback listed over six feet tall, and size is always a great commodity at this position. In high school, McDonald was rated as one of the five best prospects in the Kansas City area, putting up big time stats at Rockhurst High School. His high school success led to a three star ranking from Rivals.

Dexter has good size and is a guy to keep an eye on down the road. I wouldn’t expect to see him much, if any, on the field this season, but he will likely be heard from quite a bit before his time as a Jayhawk is done.

 

Five Questions Entering Spring Practice: 

1) Where will Tyler Patmon play? Patmon made a lot of noise in Big 12 play as a slot/nickel guy. Will he be moved outside and play as more of a traditional corner? If he does, will he be effective?

2) How much will Isiah Barfield’s injury slow him down? Barfield earned a starter’s role last year, but missing the spring practice and the emergence of Patmon and Brown could lead to the senior riding more pine this year.

3) Will Davis or Powell finally make the leap? Both have a lot of time in the system and both saw a lot of early action before riding the bench last year. They have experience, but their window of opportunity to contribute is closing fast.

4) Will the Dexters play? Both Linton and McDonald are talented, yet raw. Do they have enough to beat out Davis or Corrigan?

5) Will the defensive line provide a pass rush? I know we say it every year, but these guys need the big boys to get some heat on the QB, or they will struggle.

 

Position Synopsis

Patmon and Brown have the potential to be stars, while Barfield adds some needed experience and leadership to the position. After those three, things begin to get a bit cloudy. Davis has a good opportunity to play, and I would expect him to be at least the fourth CB in terms of minutes played. Corrigan appears to be a career backup, and the Dexters are talented but young. Cornerback could be one of the team’s strengths next year, and these guys will be even better if our defense develops a consistent pass rush.

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Potential.....

there’s that word again.

I love all of our corners. I would just love them all a lot more if they weren’t ALL (except Dexter) 5’ 11" and instead were all 6’ 1" or 6’ 2".

But hey, at least we’re not starting a 5’8" CB like back in the Terry Allen days.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 12, 2011 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Well in this case, the "potential"

has also produced some on-field results, so there is reason to be optimistic. Patmon and Brown both showed us something last year, and Barfield was pretty steady. You could do a lot worse than a Patmon-Brown-Barfield-Davis two deep, And I think both Dexters have a chance to be big toime

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is true

We could do a lot worse. But we also have to remember that these 5’11" kids get to cover 6’4"/6’5" UT and OU WRs EVERY season now.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 12, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

They can wear taller shoes

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The average height

for a cb is 5’ 9" – 5’ 11"

by MattyC_4_MVP on Apr 12, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Apr 12, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

The internets

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't doubt it.

But KU seems to always struggle against tall WRs. And tall, lanky WRs who can jump are now in vogue in this league. I’d like to have some size out there to combat that.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 12, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

What grad is not telling you

is despite their height they all have surgically extended arms so we’re good.

Pour yourself a Tim Collins

by labbadabba on Apr 12, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

And they're all really

6’1" 205lbs and named Aqib Talib?

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Apr 12, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did the procedure myself

no worries

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, yes and no IMHO

True we’ve struggled with lanky tall WRs, but I think you could say that about a lot of defensive backfields.

IMHO, the area our secondary struggled the most was simply open field tackling. How many screen passes or slants last year went for 65 yard scores?

The Baylor game, or the play against KSU where Patmon had his guy pinned on the sideline and then he made one little fake and was off to the races were signs of this.

Now that these guys have a season under their belt, hopefully the fundamentals get a lot better.

Point being, its hard to string together scoring drives with short completion after short completion. Odds are, something will go wrong to derail the drive. When you give up big plays in the open field though… well you give up 50 something points fast

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 on tackling

You can’t miss guys multiple times and expect to win games – the Baylor and KSU games were prime examples

by jayhawk1996 on Apr 12, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, I about had a heart attack when I opened up RCT this morning

I saw the CB preview and was like "oh crap I hit publish instead of “save as draft”

That is how hardcore I am with this site man!

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

With KU shifting to a more traditional 4-3-3 look next year,

Only 10 men on defense? Between this and special teams, six timeouts won’t be nearly enough,

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by Triston27 on Apr 12, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

::facepalm::

Corrected, thank you

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

if that is your only mistake

congrats. I think I make at least one per post. Granted I never edit or proofread.

by fetch9 on Apr 12, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny story

When I wrote that I had just gotten done playing some FIFA against a buddy of mine online, and I think my use of the 4-3-3 in soccer lead to a freudian slip.

I KNOW HOW MANY GUYS ARE ON THE FIELD DAMMIT

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not as sold on this group as some.

If Brown can start playing up to his potential consistently, and Patmon can transition to being a true corner, then we have something. However, both those are “ifs”. Barfield does some things well, but also has a nasty habit of not being very close to his man when he catches the ball. Davis will likely end his KU career best known for two things: getting yanked in the ‘09 opener after three PI penalties, and for sleeping with Tyshawn Taylor’s girlfriend.

I guess it all goes back to “potential.” this group has the potential to excel, but right now I’m not considering corner a strength for us.

by PenguinHawk on Apr 12, 2011 9:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

They are ifs...

But Patmon played very well in Big12 play last year, and Brown really came on at the end of the season. If they play as well as they did last year (in the second half of Big 12 play) then we will probably be fine, if both improve…then we are really cooking.

Barfield seemed a bit out of place as an outside corner last year, I always thought he would be better suited at nickel. I think he played off his man a lot because he was on an island out there and didn’t want to get beat over the top. Plus when opposing QBs have 7 seconds to throw, you need to give some cushion.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Apr 12, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

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