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NCAA Tournament Southwest Region: Heading to the Alamo

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Four teams remain in the Southwest Region. To no one's surprise, one of them is the #1 seeded Kansas Jayhawks. The other three you might not know as much about. Let's take a look at them each of the potential hurdles standing in front of Kansas in San Antonio on the road to the Final Four.

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12 - Richmond Spiders (29-7)

How they got here:

Defeated (4) Vanderbilt 69-66

Defeated (13) Morehead State 65-48

The Spiders are led by seniors Kevin Anderson and Justin Harper.  And yes, they're an inside-outside due that should terrify you, as both can flat out shoot the ball.  Anderson is not only the primary ball-handler, but also the lead scorer from the perimeter. On the year, he averages about 17 points and 3 assists per game, knocking down his threes at a 42% clip.  Against Vandy, he controlled the game and hit a dagger to put the Spiders up 3 late, finishing with 25 points and 4 assists. 

Harper does most of his damage facing up, and is very dangerous stretching the defense, netting threes at a 46% clip on the year.  At 6'10", but only 225, he'll have a lot of trouble physically defending the twins and Robinson, but he won't let them hang out in the paint on the other end either.  For the year, he averages 18 & 7. In the demolition of Morehead on Saturday, he has 19 & 6.

The best counter Richmond will have for Kansas' vaunted front line is Dan Geriot.  He's not a terrific rebounder, but at 6'9" 235, he's a much stronger presence on the block and will be able to push them off a bit.  And yes, for good measure, he scores 10/game at the other end, shooting his threes at 42%.

The Spiders can't match us athletically, but they'll play us extremely slow, they take extremely good care of the ball, they space the floor well and they hit their open shots.  As a team, they shoot 40% from three. Defensively, they run a matchup-zone to help them get to sharp-shooters. And on the year, it's been perhaps their best single attribute. Against Kansas, it probably means a lot of double teams for the twins, so get the ball in the paint and find the open man.  That will probably be as much on Tyshawn as anyone.

 

 

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11 - VCU Rams (26-11)

How they got here:

Defeated (11) USC 59-46

Defeated (6) Georgetown 74-56

Defeated (3) Purdue 94-76

The Rams are led by senior point Joey Rodriguez, who averages 11 points and 5 assists per game.  He only makes his triples at a 34% rate, but he's not afraid to shoot them, taking 169 on the year.  He's only 5'10", but he's quick, he takes good care of the ball, and when he gets comfortable, he can really get his teammates going (11 assists against Purdue). 

Rodriguez runs the show, but their most dangerous players are Jamie Skeen and Bradford Burgess, and both actually can match athleticism on the inside (though only Skeen has the height).  Skeen goes 6'9" 240 and on the year, he averages 15 points and 8 boards a game.  If you'll remember the trouble we had with the USC front line, know that Skeen put up 16 & 9 against them in pretty efficient fashion.

Burgess runs the floor beautifully, can sky for rebounds and hits his threes at a 40% clip.  At only 6'6", we'll have a nice height advantage, but his leaping ability won't make him easy to score over.  We'll need to do our work early and post him where we can catch it in close.  He can cause all sorts of pressure in the passing lanes and he loves to get out and run, as you saw if you watched him go for 23 & 8 on Purdue yesterday.

I assume VCU would try and press us to death, and despite our propensity to turn the ball over, I actually think that would play right into our hands.  Josh might not garner much playing time, but we should be able to pass over the top, play volleyball on the glass and get a ton of easy buckets.  I'm not sure what happened to Purdue's defense yesterday, but a repeat of their 94 point outburst seems unlikely at best.

 

 

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10 - Florida State Seminoles (23-10)

How they got here:

Defeated (7) Texas A&M 57-50

Defeated (2) Notre Dame 71-57

With SIngleton back, Florida State was under-seeded and them being here does not surprise me on bit.  Them scoring 71 points on a semi-decent defensive Notre Dame team did shock me. Them going 9-19 from three in said win, absolutely stunned me. The Seminoles are an absolute brick wall of a defensive team, currently leading the nationboth in defensive efficient and eFG% (only 42%).  This would truly be a matchup of the country's best defense and arguably the country's best offense (I'd say Ohio State has laid some nice claim to that lately).  And actually, they faced the Buckeyes early this year, and though they lost, they held that prolific offense to only 58 points.  If we're to face the Seminoles, points will not come easily.

They're a pretty balanced team, but they're led by Chris Singleton on the inside and Derwin Kitchen on the perimeter. Kitchen sets the tone defensively, and is a great penetrator offensively. We would absolutely need good Tyshawn to counter Kitchen in this one, because he's quick and physical enough to control the game on both ends, as witnessed in his 22 point, 10 rebound performance in the win earlier over Duke.  He's flanked by former KU recruit and great athlete, Michael Snaer.

Back from a broken foot, Chris Singleton leads them on the interior. And despite only being 6'9", he makes up for it with length and strength, and is about as good of a post defender as I've seen.  For the year, he averages 13 points, 7 boards, 2 blocks and 2 steals. He's by no means at full strength, but he'll play and give us trouble. Helping him is Bernard James and Okaro White. Both are also excellent defenders (with James averaging 2.3 bpg), and they combine to go for about 16 & 10.

Seeds aside, I'd probably have rather faced Notre Dame than Florida State. It's unlikely they shoot it again like they did last night, but when you don't even need to slow things down to keep games in the 50s and 60s, you must be one hell of a defensive team. And that's exactly what the Seminoles have proven to be.

 

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Yes, it's true that Kansas can get to the Final Four with Illinois being the highest seed it faced. But the same thing happened in 2008, and as Davidson showed us all, the seed means nothing this time of year. If they're still playing, they're capable and dangerous. And what they lack in pedigree, they make up for with their stack of house money.  All the pressure in San Antonio will be on the Jayhawks. But I wouldn't trade our roster or our position with anyone in the country.

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against richmond, the key will be defense

the best counter to a slow tempo team for an up tempo team is solid defense. get a stop, prevent them from getting back and move the ball forward as soon as possible. t2, if he can hang on to the ball, will be able to pass ahead, get it to the morri or trob… if the inside is matched up, then tyrel or brady will be open at the corners.

i think if we play the defense of this past sunday evening, we win this game by double digits.

we can score in a slow tempo game, and win, but if we dont get stops… this could be a davidson-esque nailbiter

"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch." - The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

by scouted on Mar 22, 2011 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

It's funny...

Richmond might be the best of the three other teams in this region – they’re definitely better than VCU and Florida State is debatable – and yet I’m still more worried about Sunday’s potential game.

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 22, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Richmond's tempo could be scarry.

Of the remaining teams, only Wisconsin plays slower. Zone defense also worries me. Richmond doesn’t turn the ball over much.

FT% and 3P% (both for offense and defense) are very similar.

On the plus side, KU has better offense, an obviously deeper and more experienced bench (KU should be able to send waves of guards at Kevin Anderson) and should have the rebounding edge (kenpom.com has Richmond as the 16th best remaining team for offensive rebounds). I also like having an experienced coach and team. Before now, their group has never been to the Sweet 16.

As for defensive numbers from kenpom.com, they are rather similar, except rebounding (Richmond at 14th and KU at 2nd).

by kansasjohn on Mar 22, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty worried about their matchup zone

we’ve struggled against the zone all year and it’s been pretty obvious the key to slowing us down is to pack the paint. Anderson will probably be harder to guard than McCamey too because he’s a lot quicker. We definitely gotta step up for this one

by Walshdollar on Mar 22, 2011 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

For us the zone is usually about hitting shots...

We’re pretty good about getting the ball in the middle. And our bigs are usually pretty good about making something happen on their own, or getting it to the open guy. Then it’s just about knocking down shots. With us, you certainly have to pick your poison, and to me, it seems pretty obvious that it’s a lot less risky to let us shoot open threes. But if & when we knock those down, it can get out of hand quickly. (That’s still pretty amazing to me that we handily beat a pretty good team and only hit 4 threes for the entire game.)

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 22, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mario will be the key vs the zone

He has an ability to find the seam just inside the FT line for a mid-range shot that he excels at. If he can make these (he has in the past) it really causes problems for the zone.

I always drink the Kool-Aid

by bt01 on Mar 22, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jayhawk Rap...

Everybody get up right and wave the wheat
We got a bench full of starters that goes 8 deep
So buckle up San Antonio were ready to roll…

OK, I’m sure everyone remembers the song (like it or hate it, I liked it) but I listened to it this morning and realized the first few lines fit this team as well. Sure, they were talking San Antonio as Final 4 but were still goin there.

Well for all you newer Jayhawk fans or people that didn’t ever hear it, it was written about our 08 team. And here is a link for people that haven’t heard it or people that just want hear it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=TzX9nZS2L_I

by hawkinwihita on Mar 22, 2011 8:47 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

We know that the Alamo doesn't have a basement

The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 22, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

A key for FSU will be Singleton, as you said.

He hardly played at all last weekend, and against ND they didn’t need him. Another week to get healthy is a great thing for that team. If we do have the chance to play them, it will be like playing A&M all over again.

www.oreadboomkings.fantake.com

by Triston27 on Mar 22, 2011 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

i think we have to begin to realize just how bad fsu is offensively

yes, they are perhaps the top defense in the land, but the offense is just dreadful. ive seen my fair share of acc games this year and the seminoles cannot shoot effectively.

would i rather the jayhawks potentially play vcu on sunday? i’m not so sure. i think i’d take fsu first

"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch." - The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

by scouted on Mar 22, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Id much rather play FSU

There’s no way they could score enough to beat us. Especially not in a game that will be a semi-home game for us.

by fetch9 on Mar 22, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

They scored more than enough...

to beat Notre Dame in what was much more than a semi-home game for the Irish.

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 22, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way it happens three games in a row...

"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch." - The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

by scouted on Mar 22, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Four games in a row.

I’m assuming they’ll need to score to beat VCU as well.

by FLJhawk on Mar 22, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

And I think we’ll be fine against any of these teams. But if you’re asking me, would I rather play?

1) a team that’s been pretty average all year (and flat out BAD defensively), but got hot and beat a couple suspect teams over a weekend, OR

2) a team that’s played better defense than anyone in the country all year (and won in a big-time conference, despite their woeful offense)

I’m choosing option #1. Florida State has proven they can play with Ohio State (and stop their offense), as well as the ability to beat Duke. VCU got hot for a weekend and took out depleted Georgetown and Purdue teams. That’s not to diminish what they did, but on personnel, Florida State is the only team that can match us, even moreso if we catch them on a day that they’re actually shooting straight.

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 22, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

And as was stated earlier, due to the injury of Singleton they were mis-seeded. By no means the best basketball team we’ve seen, but they’d be the best one we’ll play in our region if it all shakes out.

www.oreadboomkings.fantake.com

by Triston27 on Mar 22, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say KU plays all three teams at once . . .*

the opposition can tag in like in fake wrestling, as long as there are no more than 5 eligible players at any one time. This way, maybe we can get it all resolved at once. But KU gets a green, two-headed Tyrady monster.

*this is a joke, maybe a bad one, but not intended as serious

by kansasjohn on Mar 22, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

I was gonna say this is a really good idea until you told me it was a joke… too bad

by Walshdollar on Mar 22, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

sarcasm font is font.

Yea ≠ Yeah

by labbadabba on Mar 23, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was feeling pretty good about our chances

Now that I read this I’m terrified of Richmond. And the other two as well.

Basically heres me thoughts: Has KU actually played well so far? Not really. Good spurts here and there but the Morri have really been the only ones to consistently dominate.

BUT what happens if Reed shows up and gives us a 4-7 type game from three? What if Taylor abuses the opponents and gets layups at will? Etc etc etc. Still waiting for this team to really put it together, and I think its coming.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2011 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

The thing is

all three teams are arguably worse than Illinois. We could go Ohio State on someone and win by thirty but I really don’t think we need to to make the final four or even the championship game

by Walshdollar on Mar 22, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely true.

Before the tournament began, kenpom had Illinois rated 20, FSU at 40 and Richmond at 77. Kenpom now: FSU 27, Richmond 37 and VCU 60. All three have flaws. Of the 16 remaining teams, FSU has the next lowest offensive eFG% and the highest turnover percentage (but they rebound well and play top-ranked D). VCU and Richmond are the 14th and 16th remaining teams for rebounds. VCU is next to last in defensive eFG% and last in adjusted D.

Be careful, though, as some closet FSU, Richmond or VCU fans will come out and say something witty like “scoreboard!”

by kansasjohn on Mar 22, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be awesome if Self got someone on the 2004 team to come talk to the guys

And talk about losing to Richmond in Allen Fieldhouse and how that felt. How this is a shot at revenge. Squash em

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone seems to be discounting VCU

yeah, they had the worst resume of all at large teams, but you can’t argue with results. They’ve played 3 tournament games, against major conference teams, and won them by an average of 16 points per game. This team is doing something very right now.

by PenguinHawk on Mar 22, 2011 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Completely agreed.

I can see USC taking VCU lightly and getting beat as a result. That should have put Georgetown on notice, but Georgetown was drowning (losing 5 of 6 before the VCU game). VCU beating Purdue was surprising based on Purdue’s defensive numbers. I don’t think that all three teams took them lightly.

The key to VCU’s continued run has been shooting. VCU did not shoot well against USC, but hit 12 3’s against Georgetown and 57% of their shots against Purdue. The match-up with FSU should be interesting, with the Seminoles being no. 1 in FG% defense and 10th in the nation in 3PFG% defense.

by kansasjohn on Mar 22, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Purdue game caught my attention...

I said this somewhere else…but even though Richmond might be the best top to bottom team of the three, I’m much more worried about the possible second game than I am about Friday. You get a double digit seed, playing well, with house money and a chance at the Final Four at their fingertips…and that’s a dangerous team.

by hiphopopotamus on Mar 23, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

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