Coach of the Year: A Case for Bill Self
Now that about two thirds of the regular season is complete, end of the season awards are starting to be discussed on the television and interwebs. ESPN's College Basketball Nation Blog started it on Wednesday, running a list of 13 names. Somehow, and I really mean that because I have no idea how, Bill Self's name didn't come up. The names mentioned all have teams that are having great years but...the only rationale for not putting Bill Self's name in the discussion is if you're saying that Bill Self and Kansas have become such a machine that it's only news when they're not a top 5 team.
Fran Fraschilla went ahead and made his pick, selecting Rick Barnes. If that's the way it goes in the end, nobody can complain about it. Texas is having a great year and his team is playing amazing defense while still being good on the offensive end. They're running roughshod over the Big 12 at the moment, so that's a fine pick. A case also gets made for Steve Fisher and Jim Calhoun, personally I think Fisher is acceptable and Calhoun is more nostalgic than acceptable. Ignoring the fact that Calhoun and his team have been docked a scholarship and placed themselves on probation for recruiting violations, I just don't think Connecticut is going to look so hot by the end of the year. The rest of the names mentioned are here and I'm not interested in going through all of them. Some deserve to be in the discussion, others might deserve honorable mention.
Back to the point though, doesn't Bill Self at least deserve a mention?
Going back to last season, Kansas had a very disappointing finish in the tournament. The #1 overall seed lost in the 2nd round to a directional school. After that game, people openly questioned Bill Self's coaching a little bit. Heading farther into the offseason, Kansas lost three starters to the NBA draft. The Jayhawks headed into this season without Sherron Collins, the team's leader for the last 3 years. The team was without Cole Aldrich, who was one of the best centers in college basketball during his time at Kansas. Throw in the most athletic player of the bunch, Xavier Henry. He wasn't a dominant force last year but his size and shooting ability wasn't going to be replaced by upping the minutes for Tyrel Reed and Brady Morningstar.The season was started with the status of the top recruit in limbo. The point guard duties handed to a guy that can be described as an occasional knucklehead (though he's been great this year). Led by a guy that showed flashes in his sophomore year but had never been the alpha dog at the collegiate level. Role players like Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed were forced into the starting lineup and expected to do much more than shoot open threes.
How have the Jayhawks responded? Choose a ranking, any legitimate ranking and it loves the Jayhawks. Kenpom? #3. 7th in offense and 4th in defense. One of the three teams to be ranked in the top 10 of both. How about Sagarin? 2nd in ELO_CHESS and PREDICTOR. Choose a questionable rating system like RPI and you'll see the Jayhawks are ranked first. Traditional polls? Ranked 2nd. That's quite a few words to say that Kansas hasn't stumbled, slipped, or missed a beat this season after losing three players to the NBA.
All of the previous commentary has focused on the on-court production but this may really be Bill Self's best coaching job at Kansas because of the off the court stuff he has had to handle this year. Most recent is the death of Thomas Robinson's mother, when news came the night before a game. Over the next week, Kansas flew to the funeral on the east coast and then flew back to beat Colorado on the road and finish the week by beating Kansas State at home. Keeping 19-22 year olds focused and working through an ordeal such as this takes a special touch, something Bill Self has shown he possesses. Getting them to perform better than they have all year puts you in the discussion for Coach of the Year.
After all this, Bill Self still isn't mentioned when the list features at least 13 names? Anyone that says he's not in the discussion should agree the award be renamed in honor of Bill Self because he is the standard.
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great points, Warden
I think it’s astounding that after KU:
Was picked 4th in the Big XII;
Were ranked as low as 20th by some prognosticators (Vitale, but still);
Had its OAD #1 recruit miss the first 9 games of the season and about two weeks of practice;
The Robinson family tragedy, which included almost the entire teaming getting one hour of sleep before its only loss of the season to arguably one of the top three teams in the country,
Bill Self isn’t one of 13 names? He should be the only name on the friggin’ list.
by PDXJayhawk on Feb 9, 2011 8:28 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
THIS.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Feb 9, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Aren't these awards
Usually reserved for amazing turnarounds or “wow, where did they come from?” kinds of teams. Like Mangino winning COTY in ’07. If SDSU or Utah State finishes strong and makes the Sweet 16 you can probably gift wrap it for one of those coaches.
KU started in the Top 5 or Top 10 in both polls, and they’re #2 now, and I just don’t think that’s enough of a discrepancy to win the award. I don’t disagree with any point you made, but it doesn’t surprise ms at all that he’s not mentioned. It’s just not shocking enough on a national level that we are where we are.
by PenguinHawk on Feb 9, 2011 8:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions
And that's partly why I had this was put together.
At the beginning of the season, I think Coach K was about the only one who couldn’t win this award. Izzo possibly but if they’d won the tournament, he’d have gotten some love for getting over the hump. We’re learning that HCBS is in this same category even after going out in the 2nd round last year.
It doesn’t bother me, I just think it’s ridiculous that because HCBS and Coach K (can’t think of any others) are so good at their jobs that they’re not even put in the discussion for CoY.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
I guess that is a great compliment at least
I could care less about the COY award. I just want another NC trophy!
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care. (#739)
player managment
I’m more impressed with how our players have reacted this year to reduced minutes/touches. There are plenty of guys whose minutes have been going up and down all season. I haven’t heard of any whining. Even a guy like Marcus—he’d be in true POY discussion if he had the minutes and touches. I’m not sure if that speaks to the character of the players or the ability of the coach.
It's possible HCBS isn't getting more praise for this year
because he won CoY honors two years ago, the season after the national championship. Still, if you look at the way these things are usually decided, it’s surprising he isn’t getting more consideration.
...and the home of the Brave
You make some very good points but this
.the only rationale for not putting Bill Self’s name in the discussion is if you’re saying that Bill Self and Kansas have become such a machine that it’s only news when they’re not a top 5 team.
Might be your best point of all.
And like penguin said, this award seems to be reserved for teams that come more out of nowhere, rather than coaching through adversity. However, if this is truly the case, then Thad Matta has no business being on that list either. tOSU isn’t surprising anyone with their play.
www.oreadboomkings.fantake.com
I think...
The longer this current winning streak goes (God willing), the more credit HCBS will start to get nationally.
Sports media loves one thing more than anything else: an easy storyline. If we can get to the 30 or so win range, every hack around the country will write up their story on how Self rallied his team after terrible tragedy, and they’ve been great ever since. It’s exactly the kind of story that gets the “human interest story” treatment on Sportscenter.
Cynically, I could sit here and complain about how media companies are exploiting T-Rob’s pain to sell advertising. But if that kind of coverage does come, and it leads to more donations for Jayla’s scholarship fund, it would be worth it.
If we win every game for the rest of the season by 20, I’m guessing Bill will get the props he deserves.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 9, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions
Like it hasn't already with all the ass-kissing the Big East gets every day?
Or SEX conference in football? What about all attention lathered on the Jets and Pats?
I think it should be Barnes myself, but I couldn’t object if Self wins it.
Fire Chris Cosh!
Which schools are in the SEX conference?
Is there are an aptitude test you have to take to get in? If so, can you describe it in detail?
by PenguinHawk on Feb 9, 2011 12:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
ha ha ha
It’s a take off of Panjandrum’s adventures of the Big XII series on BOTC. A&M is a drooling idiot (with a huge chip on his shoulder from being UT’s little brother) in the series and he calls the SEC the SEX conference all the time.
Fire Chris Cosh!
I get it now
I wasn’t sure if you were being sarcastic if you’d made the world’s funniest typo
by PenguinHawk on Feb 9, 2011 3:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks, but I'm just not that funny (:
This is, however, from the depths of conference armageddon – http://www.bringonthecats.com/2010/6/7/1506558/adventures-of-the-big-12-twelve
Fire Chris Cosh!
That was pretty good.
www.oreadboomkings.fantake.com
Barnes is definitely deserving.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
I agree about the Big East in basketball...
But it’s kinda hard to knock the SEC in football. Until someone steps up and shuts them up, they have every right to be glorified. SEC has won the last 5 national championships by 4 different teams. To me that’s showing domination.
by hawkinwihita on Feb 9, 2011 2:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree that it is very impressive how terrific the top of the league has been for years now
However, just because the top is consistently REALLY good doesn’t mean the rest of the conference is that great. I think the SEC’s unimpressive bowl record this last year (5-5) shows that the hypegasm that ESPN has for the SEC was too much. However, when ESPN has that much money involved in the conference, they have to hype their product, right? Not that that’s a conflict of interest of anything.
That being said, I looked up their record over the last 5 years (going back to the 2005 season) and good lord, their record is 28-14. I didn’t realize the conference was THAT good for so long.
Fire Chris Cosh!
COY awards
are always very questionable at any level. They are very politicized and completely subjective. Speaking as a coach, the years you win one are rarely the years you think you deserve them and vise versa.
I always drink the Kool-Aid
They just gave it to him, got to spread it around.
Anyway I think there are too many negative storylines floating around Kansas this season. The ticket scandal, Lew quitting, the silly ‘Bubba’ interlude. Selby hasn’t become an instant star, and has that “impermissible benefits” phrase floating around. And the loss to UNI is still too recent.
Don't Worry.
Barnes will find a way to mess things up.
Dexter McCluster's 2010 "Broken Ankle" list:
9/13 vs SD, Mike Tolbert en route to 94-yard Punt Return for TD.
9/27 vs SF, Shawntae Spencer and Travis LaBoy en route to 31-yard TD catch and run.
10/24 vs JAC, Aaron Kampman 2 yards in the backfield en route to 13 yard run.
It would be great for HCBS, but
I really don’t think Self himself cares about awards like this very much. Like all of us, he is WAY more concerned with getting another title. That is why we love him, after all.
I have a dream.....of electric sheep.
Haha
the award be renamed in honor of Bill Self because he is the standard.
That’s pretty clever. Yeah, I think Self is going to get overlooked a bit because Kansas has high standards, which I’m okay with. I’m just glad we’re proving everybody wrong who predicted the Jayhawks would be 4th in the big 12. After the number of times we’ve won the conference we should always be in discussion for winning the conference even if we lose the entire starting roster to graduating/NBA.
Now we just gotta go farther in the tournament…
by GoldenGopher2012 on Feb 9, 2011 10:51 PM CST reply actions
Self's performance isn't so much about what he's done this year
It is about what he has done the last 2 years, in getting Mario & Travis to redshirt when there was no playing time only to come back in a year where there was arguably less PT. And then smehow to get all the guys to play lights out together.
I also look for him to adapt his coaching to this team – the way he has gone with a big line up with Marcus or Mario at the 3 vs. having his 3 G offense, and the way he is heading toward a 10 man rotation even if he isn’t as comfortable with it.
I expect the rest of the universe to notice as much as the announcers noticed KU was going big b/c Tyrel was on bench with 2 fouls mid-way through the first half. I’m as okay with that as Coach Self is and just looking forward to the team continuing to develop.

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