Why I'm Not Worried After the KSU Game (Rant included at the bottom)
This isn't exactly timely or anything groundbreaking (why it's in the fanposts) but I wanted to get it out and on record before moving on to Colorado. Yes, Monday was a terrible game. The team didn't play well on either end of the court and Jacob Pullen lit it up for 38 points. However, a few things before admitting the sky is falling and declaring this team good but not great.
Obviously, the team playing with Thomas Robinson hurt. It hurt a lot due to both losing his production and the foul trouble Marcus and Markieff Morris encountered. Having a limited Josh Selby also hurt more than most people are admitting. Say what you want about how his freshman year hasn't set the world on fire because it's true. People also need to admit that his last few games before his injury were part of the best offensive streak the Jayhawks have had all year. Taking those two out of the game and Kansas has to fill 29 points and 12 rebounds from the game in Lawrence. Is that not significant?
For most teams, that's a solid enough excuse for a team losing in a hostile environment against a team that makes every huge shot they take. For Kansas, that's not enough. But even as bad as the game was, I think KenPom's win probability chart should also ease our minds a little bit if broken down.
The highlighted areas are where the game was effectively lost in my mind. The first one was pointed out at the time in the game thread, the last minute and a half of the first half. After cutting the lead to 6, Bill Self played it safe and removed the MORRI from the game to make sure they didn't pick up a 3rd foul before the half. Unfortunately, that minute made the climb much steeper. The Jayhawks had a great chance to get the win probability line on their side but the following things killed those chances:
Note where Tyrel Reed is standing...
And note where he is after Elijah tries to be like Aaron Rodgers and throws a pass to Jordy Nelson in the first row. So terrible possession immediately following a Jake Pullen turnover. McGruder goes down and hits a 15 footer with a hand in his face. And then:
A pretty good look at a 3 but this is definitely a time where the extra pass could have beneficial. Little's wide open at the top and if the weakside rotates, Reed's wide open. In the end, this was just a miss but it's not a bad shot. A make and this game takes a turn for the good guys. Pullen gets the rebound and draws a foul at the basket, making a free throw.
So to close out the first half, the Morri get pulled to play it safe and the Jayhawks have a terrible possession followed by a missed 3. Maybe I'm too deep into the kool-aid already but get points on these two possessions and this game goes in our favor.
Mini Rant
The Morri aren't saints and I've been as critical of their actions as most posters here throughout the season. However, this blog post from Eric Angevine at the CBS College Basketball Blog really struck a nerve with me following the game. His opening line:
If the Kansas Jayhawks do not wish to add to their litany of postseason failures
Really? Yeah, last year sucked. Throw in a couple other early exits but "litany"? A word defined by long and tedious. Come the F on. How many programs would love to have two Elite Eights, a Sweet Sixteen, and a National f'ng Championship since 2004? The postseasons haven't been perfect but if I have to handle a few early exits to win a Championship every 10 years, I'll take it.
Moving on to his larger point, the lack of poise will doom this team. It's something that is entirely possible and it's something that will doom multiple teams in March. He chooses to quote a Keegan comment that equates Markieff's foul to the events from the Cal and Missouri game. Sorry, just not buying that trash this week. Those were dirty, intentional, and outside of play. This author goes on to add:
Since then, his brother has done the same, and younger players like Josh Selby have shown similar issues with emotional restraint.
What has Josh Selby done to get his name thrown into the mud here? Part of a double technical against Texas is the only thing I can think of, other than that he has handled this entire season as well as any teenager could. He has struggled. He has been injured. He was suspended for a time. He has never sulked that I've noticed and never complained from anything I've read. But because he talked some trash (THE HORROR), he's included in two plays that he was nowhere around?
Moving along....
KU does have seniors, but they're a motley crew. Tyrel Reed and Brady Morningstar are sleepy-eyed Kansans who don't seem to have the force of personality or the on-court talent to corral this group of touchy malcontents.
I don't even know what he means by either "motley crew" or sleepy-eyed. Wikipedia tells me a motley crew is a rough assembly of characters. Still no idea. "Sleepy-eyed" for Reed immediately after he was the Jayhawk taking the ball to the rack and diving all over the court on Monday? The worst part of his writing here is that his point about leadership is a good one, leaving it at the players don't follow Reed and Morningstar's lead would be factual. Instead he draws on bullshit cliches to try and sensationalize. Hell, go back to last year and question Tyshawn Taylor if that's the angle you want to play. Instead he picks out two guys that lead by example and calls them this?
He finishes with this gem:
Does anyone now doubt that a full-scale brawl would erupt had something similar happened to a Jayhawk in the Octagon of Doom? That looks like a freshman showing the emotional restraint and leadership this group of Kansas upperclassmen needs to learn and teach to the younger players.
Yeah, I do doubt that. Because Bill Self wouldn't have allowed it to happen for one reason. The other being the Cal game which was a lot chippier and played without incident for the last 10 minutes of the game. Instead, he's going to rely on a quote from Keegan and a few things he's read previously to build up his "warning" for Kansas. This leads me to my biggest problem with the post, using the intentional on Markieff to post that? Using this?
I think he confused this guy with Markieff.
Really John? That's not what the video shows.
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Didn’t turn out so “mini” but I did delete a few things before I hit publish.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
the worst part was the Selby one
well maybe not worst, but most off base. For all his struggles on the court the kid has handled his situation as well as I could have ever hoped and he looks like he really likes being a Jayhawk as opposed to just viewing this as a stepping stone to the NBA
I'm almost 100% sure that the guy confused Selby for Elijah, who got the T for dunking too awesomely
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 19, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Could be but if he was thinking of EJ, I think he'd have mentioned the T from the game that brought this post into his mind.
I’m guessing he watched the Texas game, saw Selby got a T and noticed that his minutes have yo-yo’d and assumed it was an attitude problem. You’re giving him too much credit.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
The Bucknell/Bradley years have doomed us
Now, every time we fall short of the Final Four, people want to point to us yearly chokers in the tournament.
Yep
Its ok if you lose later, but a first round loss as a high seed…
Then again, those teams were probably the two worst teams Self coached. The 04 team was real banged up and was in a bad funk, the 05 team was really really young… etc
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 18, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yes they were
2004 team — Bill’s 1st, and they were banged up, especially Keith — made it to the Regional Final where they lost to Georgia Tech. 2005 and 2006 were the major disappointments in the NCAAs.
"So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."
I was referring to the start of the season
So its the 04-05 team, and the 05-06 team
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Feb 19, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
Great rant
I read the blog post. Eric Angevine is f*cking retarded, its clear he has only seen a few KU games this season and bought a jump to conclusions mat.
Seriously, this guy is employed by CBS? There are thousands of young hungry sports journalists out there who would jump at the opportunity to do what he does, and most would probably do a better job.
Shit happens when you win championships
Like Owen!
I completely agree. I’ve never read Eric’s stuff before- is he just a professional troll trying to get pageviews? Or is he normally less asinine than this?
You know who had “sleepy eyes”? Sleepy Floyd. He was an All Star that scored over 12,000 points in the NBA. I really thought we were past the days of judging players on meaningless subjective criteria like this.
In case you Google yourself, Eric: you suck at your job, and you should quit.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 19, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Good job Warden.
A bad game on the road in a fanatically hostile atmosphere is nothing to get upset about. Credit to Pullen for having the game of his life when they really needed it. Sounds like Angevine comes from the Keegan school of journalism. Dip into your bucket of handy cliches and apply liberally regardless of reality.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 18, 2011 3:25 PM CST reply actions
Wow that "blog" so filled with loaded language.
IThe Morris brothers have had “various emotional meltdowns”? I’m amazed he managed to pull away from the edge in time to describe Little’s arrest at least reasonably accurate.
That’s the problem with damaging your reputation, though. It’s not that you open yourself up to fair criticism, it’s that you open yourself up to cheap shots based on half truths and distortions. Eric Angevine can go sit and spin, but articles like this are part of the price to be paid.
I’m not overly worried. I do think a win like this helps… one where the team can’t have anything to feel good about, or any excuse or distraction from the way they played bad. I just hope one’s enough.
Yeah people seem to forget how awesome we had been playing before the KSU game
we had an incredily off night while pullen was on. Plus Withey in for Trob is a joke. These things will happen and its not the end of the world. Another point I wanted to make, and I apologize if this has already been made, but after the foul on Markieff, Tyrel was fouled in the exact some way a couple of plays later. The only difference being he didnt sell it. He got clocked in the face, shook it off and kept playing. I think the refs called a foul but no intentional. Reed goes out and works his ass off every single game. For that guy to call him sleepy eyed is insulting
Love the post Warden
Couldn’t agree more.
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care. (#739)
I am
getting sick of these so called “experts” calling the twins dirty. Fans to be back off as well. I absolutely believe the refs or ref aka John Higgins goes out of his way to call them. There has been no problems unless it’s been Higgins, O’Neil or Thornley officiating. Yea they have had some bad inexcusable plays but overall they have been good. I was unaware that trash talking was a new phenomanon. The refs had no problem today.
The more I look at that Morris "intetional foul" picture the more confused I get
It definitely appears as though Kieff had his left hand essentially on his number. From there, it appears to me that he’s reaching out his elbow to try to get a piece of his man to try to prevent the switch and get Reed an open look.
Jacob definitely knew what he was doing here. Instead of going around Kieff on the baseline side, he apparently wanted to try and jump the passing lane by going over the screen. When he saw the outstretched elbow, he knew he could draw a foul by making contact with it. I don’t know if Pullen always runs that low to the ground, but he made himself the perfect height to make contact with his head, leading to the call.
Reaching out with his elbow to “chip” his man is definitely a foul, but there was no malice here. It was a bang-bang play that was heavily influenced by reputation and atmosphere.
At any rate, it’s clear that Kieff had something to prove today. What a performance.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 19, 2011 6:42 PM CST reply actions

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