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Kansas Vs. Iowa State: RE-Viewing the Cyclones

Round two against the Cyclones and a lot has changed since the first meeting in Hilton Coliseum.  For the Jayhawks part the play on the court has improved a great deal.  After a sluggish start to begin conference play the Jayhawks have looked a bit like a machine over the last five, especially on the offensive end. 

This one's a home game, no Hilton magic.  Right around the corner sits a Big Monday matchup against in state rival Kansas State.  For Kansas it's important to keep taking it one game at a time and bringing the defense along to a level that matches the impressive offensive tone. 

As for the Cyclones...well?

Rankings:

AP Poll
NR
RPI
#141
SOS
#129
SOS Projected
#68

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Falling On Hard Times

Prior to the season this was an Iowa State team that most expected little from.  Then the season started and Fred Hoiberg managed a fairly solid 13-2 start.  Diante Garrett was and still is a big time player, Scott Christopherson was a machine from beyond the arc and Jamie Vanderbeken might just be the most important player on the team.

Then the Cyclones hit a wall.  More specifically they hit conference play and the lack of depth on the Cyclone bench really started to show.  After dropping the first two including a loss to Kansas, the Cyclones bounced back with a home win against a Baylor team that has some talent. From that point on it's been all losses for Iowa State.

Losses to Oklahoma State, Missouri, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Kansas State and Colorado mean the Cyclones sit 14-10 and 1-8 in the Big 12.  And if we're being honest, that's not the murderers row of the Big 12. At this point the best thing going in Ames might be the fact that Korie Lucious is strongly considering a transfer to Ames.

It's a project for Fred Hoiberg and right now the depth is atrocious.  The sad thing is that there is actually significant talent sitting on the bench in Royce White, he just isn't eligible yet after transferring.  It'll come around.  Ames is a devoted college town.  Last weekend I watched a bad Iowa State team take Kansas State to the brink in front of a pretty full house at Hilton despite a 14-10(1-8) record.  That's commendable at the very least. 

Offensive Averages:

Points
76.3
38th / 4th
Assists
14.9
58th / 3rd
Rebounds
37.7
57th / 5th
FG Pct
44.0
153rd / 10th

Defensive Averages:

Points
67.9
171st / 4th
Assists
13.1
202nd / 3rd
Rebounds
38.8
324th / 5th
FG Pct
40.2
39th / 10th

 

Player Update

Diante Garrett is where it's at for Iowa State.  The point guard was a focus going into the last matchup and headed into this one he should be again.  In conference play Garrett ranks 3rd in the league in scoring and 1st in assists.  The biggest problem for him is that he plays in Ames and the Cyclones are 1-8 in that stretch.  Take his same statistics and put him on a winning team and he's legitimately in the running for Big 12 player of the year.  As it stands to day he's in the conversation as a courtesy.

Beyond Garrett the Cyclones go about four more strong in Scott Christopherson, Jake Anderson, Jamie Vanderbeken and Melvin Ejim.  All still average double figures in scoring.  All still average close to 30 minutes or more on the court per contest.  And all three are fighting tooth and nail every night for Fred Hoiberg.  It's just a matter of going into a war outgunned every day of the week.  It's tough and Cyclone fans are probably ready to turn the page to better times ahead.

 


 

Prediction Time

Kansas is on a bit of a run, Iowa State is the worst team in the conference and the Cyclones go SEVEN deep at best.  That's the recipe for a field day for the Jayhawks at home.  Biggest concern is overlooking Iowa State, looking ahead to Kansas State and coming out sluggish or without focus. 

I don't see it happeing, Kansas wins this one big.



PPGFG%FT%3P%RPGORPGDRPGAPGTPGSPGBPGFPG
Iowa-state ISU 76.3 44.0 73.6 37.1 37.7 10.7 27.0 14.9 12.5 7.1 4.0 16.2
Kansas KU 83.7 52.4 66.5 39.4 38.9 11.3 27.5 18.4 13.5 8.5 4.5 17.7
Iowa-state ISU Opponents 67.9 40.2 68.2 32.5 38.8 12.6 26.2 13.1 15.1 6.3 3.9 17.7
Kansas KU Opponents 64.0 38.8 70.7 28.8 31.5 11.1 20.5 10.8 15.3 6.0 2.8 20.0

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KU 79 - ISU 64

Offense cools down a bit as Iowa State puts on a plucky performance and hangs around a while.

I haven’t been right about the outcome of a KU game since picking our loss to Texas though, so really I have no idea.

by PenguinHawk on Feb 11, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

According to 810 sports...

T-Rob had a MCL tear operated on and would be out two weeks. This injury seems much more serious than that. Was it really a tear or a sprain?

by JHAWKS85 on Feb 11, 2011 7:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

A meniscus is not a ligament

“The menisci of the knee joint are two pads of cartilaginous tissue which serve to disperse friction in the knee joint between the lower leg (tibia) and the thigh (femur).”

When either meniscus (medial or lateral) is torn, the thigh and shin bones can rub on each other without the normal cushion. This reduces mobility and becomes increasingly painful.

The treatment and recovery time are well-established medical procedure. Stitch the pad back together and allow time for new cartilage growth.

RRROOOOCK CHAAAALLLK! JAAAAYYYHAAAAWWWK! KAAAAYYY UUuuuUU!

by KU62 on Feb 11, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

The first news release from KU said it was the ligament...

That’s why I thought two weeks was not enough.

by JHAWKS85 on Feb 12, 2011 10:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Key to beating ISU for us is pretty simple

Stay in front of Garrett and limit and the guards as best possible, and hammer the ball to the Morri inside.

Marcus had an absolute turkey shoot in this one last time (32 points, 12 boards I think). Attention on him should also free up our outside shooters, hopefully they continue to hit.

Every game we play against ISU seems to be fairly high scoring. I’m going with 87-72 KU

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Feb 11, 2011 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

Run, run, run, and press the pace.

Their first 5 may stay close, but their subs can’t hang with ours, or even their 1’s after we push them for 30 minutes. We win going away.

by dagger108 on Feb 11, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

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by Warden11 on Feb 12, 2011 5:47 AM CST up reply actions  

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