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More Info on Weis


Lots of talk going on all over about the hire. I'm not sold but this post isn't concerned one way or the other with whether or not this is a good hire. Just providing some information that I've gathered quickly this morning, use this as a place to fact check a few of the claims that are being made about his tenure at Notre Dame. If there is anything that is missing, throw it in the comments and I'll see what if I can find.

(edit: Weis was at Notre Dame for the 2005-2009 seasons)

First up, recruit rankings for each class from scout.com from 2003 to 2012. That puts us a few years before Weis and a few years post-Weis. Thought that might help in determining his impact on the program. The table also includes the rankings for KU during the same time, just to give an idea for the different level of talents.

YearND Recruit RankKU Recruit Rank
2003
5
70
2004
30
56
2005
27
57
2006
5
47
2007
11
78
2008
2
49
2009
23
50
2010
19
65
2011
7
38
2012
11
82

Weis had some very good classes during his 5 years at Notre Dame. The school also had some good classes before he got there and have had some very good classes after his firing. Either way, we can be pretty confident that our numbers will look better in a short period of time.

Moving on, Sagarin, FEI, S+P, and S+P+ offensive ranks for the years available.

YearSagarin RatingFEI RankS+P RankS+P Off Rank
2003 43
2004 31
2005 8 12 8
2006 23 26 7
2007 90 74 90 118
2008 53 50 54 63
2009 48 31 37 21
2010 19 23 11 29
2011 24 21 10 18

Notre Dame's schedule has seem to come into play here as an excuse for why the program stumbled in his 3rd, 4th, and 5th years at the school. Here is the yearly breakdown of their schedule rank according to Sagarin and FEI.

YearFEI Sch RankSag Sch Rank
2003 1
2004 5
2005 14
2006 18
2007 38 24
2008 20 50
2009 53 37
2010 40 22
2011 20 26

Not a cupcake schedule but also not a murderer's row according to this information.

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