What are you looking at Zebras!
by Warden11 on Dec 23, 2011 7:50 AM CST
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PrintAs the official Rock Chalk Talk referee apologist, here's my cover to show that I'm not always on their side. Watched the game this morning and didn't think the game was called poorly, though it did appear to be called fairly tight. There were two calls though that I definitely disagreed with, one on Wesley going for a rebound and a no-call on a USC inbounds play.
The "over the back" call against Wesley on this one is a huge pet peeve of mine. Almost as bad as a defensive block when the offense is initiating all the contact. It's not a foul to out jump a guy that has better position!
No call after the jump.
Here's the first one. A screener has to keep his stance, the "C" on this play should be staring right at the double screen on Tharpe.
Questionable here but I have no problem with letting it go so far.
This I have a problem with, no idea how this wasn't called. They get and make a wide open 3.
Refs miss some calls and pass on some calls here and there, so in the big picture I'm definitely not down on the officials at all. Just two plays that caught my eye and wanted to show that I don't always side with the officials.
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There were a few moments last night
that I yelled at the refs. Wesley’s over the back was one of them. I hit back on my DVR 3 or 4 times trying to figure out where the foul was. I remember another sequence where Taylor went for a reverse lay-up and got mauled by 2 Trojans under the hoop the ball went the other way and Johnson was called on a little hand check 30 feet out.
The name of that song played at KC Comets games in the '80's was Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase." Now you know.
i guess
I just assumed Wesley got called for pushing off before the jump, didn’t see that over the back was called
Pay heed...
Well over the back is technically a push.
But there was very little contact before he left the ground and none in the air.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
I agree
Wesley appeared to have ample space and my eyes tend to miss push-offs when watching so I assumed i just missed it, not wanting to rewind the dvr to double check myself (I didn’t want to make the game go any later than it already was!)
Pay heed...
by pj_hawk4life on Dec 23, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Problem was
USC kept turning the ball over, traveling, etc SOO much the refs had to balance things out, thus gave them a few rediculous calls.
Thats my hypothesis!
Also… Jesus Christ, USC is absolutely terrible. Worst team we have played so far. Pitt State would have beaten them.
How the hell is that a BCS conference basketball team? We played terrible on offense, scored 25 points in the first half, and still cruised and won without breaking a sweat.
Shit happens when you win championships
There was a reason
USC was that terrible, and it had a lot to do with breaking a sweat! A lot of open shots didn’t fall for KU in the first half, but the ’Hawks buckled down on the other end and refused to let USC take advantage. The surge after last media timeout of first half (where the game was decided) was all about hustle in transition and defending hard on every possession.
RRROOOOCK CHAAAALLLK! JAAAAYYYHAAAAWWWK! KAAAAYYY UUuuuUU!
They don't have the players
to fit the style of ball their coach likes to play. Announcers mentioned some transfers several times. I guess they’ll have better personnel next year.
by jayhawk1996 on Dec 23, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with your hypothesis
I think this happens often in all sports, whether the refs are doing it consciously or subconsciously.
Kila's slash for Apr 20 to May 4, 2011, right before he was sent down: .276 / .344 / .448
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Dec 23, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
In my experience, it happens because you want both sides to be somewhat pleased.
The winning team generally doesn’t care and giving a few small breaks to the losing team doesn’t hurt in the long run.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
Like the 2nd call here.
It’s an illegal screen, the ref had to see it. But it is 40-26, at that point it doesn’t do much good to call it and penalize USC because they’re very unlikely to make a game of it anyway. Of course, if it gets close then it can come back and bite you in the ass.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
You are spot on with the Wesley complaint
I was at the game and couldn’t believe that was called. I didn’t need a replay to know that there was not enough contact to warrant a foul.
As for the game, lots of KU fans there. Unfortunately, USC never really gave us a chance to get that loud. Were definite cheers for plays all game long but there was never the sustained loudness because it was just a lackluster game with only one team’s fans in it. Great time, though, and my only opp to see the Hawks in person this year.
by I need more Esteban on Dec 23, 2011 11:58 AM CST reply actions
Wesley impressed me a few times with his athleticism.
He doesn’t seem to bring much offensively but his hops on this play and on a block at the other end looked good.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Rock Chalk Talk
agreed
on that one dunk he got up.
by I need more Esteban on Dec 23, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Rock Chalk chant at the end came through on the TV
It sounded like the USC fans were trying to drown it out but you could definitely make it out. I always love when you can hear it when we are on the road.
That OTB call was mystifying.
Not appropriate to anyhing, but I think it’s hilarious that Wesley took jersey #4. I wish we had a wing with #3 so we could have Tharpe, Teahan, #3, Wesley, and Withey out on the floor at the same time.
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