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A College Football Recruiting Timeline

I've recieved a handful of emails regarding this last month of recruiting and how the contact periods break out.  I thought I'd take a quick post to run through the timeline and from there see what other questions or discussion might be floating out there on the topic.

The thought is that Kansas has 4 scholarships left to give with 22 commitments already in tow.  I've seen the number as high at 6 but I do think we'll be coming in below that unless a current player has had a change of heart over the break. 

With that, here's the timeline for filling out the balance of the 2011 class.

January 3rd - January 8th: This is basically open season.  Since the beginning of this week coaches were able to get back out on the trail and get busy securing those last few commitments and of course as always, maintaining the ones you have when necessary.

January 9th: Quiet period.  Basically a player can visit and meet with coaches on campus, but that's it.

January 10th-13th: Dead period: The only players that can be contacted here are Brock Berglund, Julius Green, Darrian Miller and Dylan Admire.  Mid years who have already been admitted.  No further contact.

This time happens to line up directly with the College Coaches Convention in Dallas Texas from the 9th-12th. 

* If he hasn't already, Turner Gill will be doing a different type of recruiting at this one as he looks to replace D Wyatt.

January 14th-29th: Open

January 30th: Quiet Period

January 31st - Feb 3rd(Signing Day): Dead Period

That's where we're at.  Kansas is in a good spot with 22 commitments already in hand.  That's 24 days to contact, bring on campus and tie up any loose ends and the final few players in the 2011 class.  Kansas will also hold a junior day similar to what they have done in the past over this timeframe with the full list of visitors still to be determined.  

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I wonder if

Rich Rod. could coach WRs?

:-)

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jan 5, 2011 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

He should have never left Western Virginia University

He had a system in place there and was making BCS games. On top of that, he was in an automatic-qualifying conference that was easy to win/possibly go undefeated in.

After a few BCS wins like they had against OU, and an undefeated season in Morgantown would have have had them playing for a title game possibly.

Instead, he jumped on a sinking ship in Ann Arbor. I never get that about successful coaches who move up for a more “prestigous job.” Don’t they realize that the expectations are going to be crazy? I mean, if Meeeeechigan ran off Lloyd Carr who had won them a title and several Big10 titles after we stumbled a little, why would Rich Rod get more than 2-3 years to get his team to a big-time bowl? Dood shoulda stayed put

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jan 5, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You can say that about a lot of coaches

who leave a good situation and quickly get in over their head. Money and ego get in the way.

by jayhawk1996 on Jan 5, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

But I guess my main point is, haven’t dudes learned by now that often it might be best to stay put? Mark Few at Gonzaga is a good example in baskethoops. Once you build YOUR program somewhere AND you have a decent shot at some good hardware… just not sure why you’d leave and take the risk of being a Coordinator somewhere in 3 years

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jan 5, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Ego. Once you get to that level, it's easy to believe you can do it anywhere.

Not to mention dolla bills.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 5, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

It's all about....

retirement planning. Those “prestigous” jobs come with “prestigous” contracts. Win or lose two people end up gaining…….the coach and his agent.

So why not give it a shot?

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jan 5, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Because history shows that more often than not, the people fail

Especially at schools with high expectations. Michigan in football with Rodrigueeeeeez. Kentucky in basketball with Gillespie. We have a lot of examples where coaches built a successful, sustaining power in their sport at a major University in a BCS conference, only to be lured to a more lucrative job at a more “prestigous” school. IMHO, prestige and all that bull matters less and less these days. Look at Notre Dame.

And if you wanna talk skrilla, well

10 years at 1.2 million a year > 2 years at 2.2 million a year

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jan 5, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Not if you're looking at it as your last shot.

Many of these coaches worked their asses off to get where they are. Wasn’t it Stoops (or maybe Mangino?) who literally lived in Snyders’ basement for six months because his salary wasn’t enough to afford moving his family into a house in Mancrappy (or something like that). Point is, a lot of these coaches look at the $$$ that comes with the prestige schools and go – this is my shot. And not only is it my shot, it’s time to get paid.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jan 5, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that was Mangino.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 5, 2011 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

You're missing my point

Your argument applies to the guys at the small schools like a MAC school who get a big time shot. I’m not going to argue with you there.

I’m talking more about guys who build up top-tier programs in BCS conferences, who aren’t making THAT much more in terms of overall salary, etc

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jan 5, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you're skipping over the ego part.

These guys think they’re the next Saban/Meyer. And honestly, Bill Self’s a guy that did the same thing. Worked out well for him.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 5, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Not so fast my internet friend

Self went into a much better situation. He was going to a team loaded with talent that lost a coach because he left for another school. Self inherited a program that was fresh off an appearance in the national title game.

A guy like RichRod or Gillespe was going to a “big name” school who had just gotten rid of a coach who had a national title in his resume and was forced out due to rediculous expectations and some failed seasons (which suggests a lower talent level).

Different situations. A lot more risk in the second scenario

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jan 6, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

And they were over their heads immediately

RichRod and Gilliespie are good coaches, but they couldn’t handle the pressure and expectations at West Va and Kentucky. It’s not for everyone. See Greg McDermott at Iowa State, or Jeff Capel at Oklahoma. They had success at mid majors but struggled in the big leagues.

by jayhawk1996 on Jan 6, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe but it's still a guy giving up a very good gig for a better program.

He could have fallen apart at KU like other coaches have done at Kentucky/Carolina/UCLA.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jan 6, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

No he couldn't have

Because Bill Self is the man

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

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