Kansas Jayhawk News and Notes 9.8.10
by Owen on Sep 8, 2010 6:00 AM CDT
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PrintLew Perkins dominating the coverage due to his sudden and "shocking" early exit. I think many could see this coming and it's likely the best thing for Kansas.
In other news, I'm hearing Jordan Webb for quarterback on Saturday against Georgia Tech. It will be interesting to see how this affects the offensive gameplan and adds further interest to this game for a variety of reasons.
Kansas AD News
Perkins’ reign over: New athletic director must be subject to checks and balances | KUsports.com
And Keegan has his day.
The search for KU's new athletic director | Campus Corner
The KC Star takes a stab at it.
Column: KU must find practical AD | CJOnline.com
Capital Journal on what type of AD Kansas needs to go after.
Perkins' tenure as Kansas Athletic Director comes to a sudden conclusion — months ahead of schedule | KUsports.com
KUSports coverage of the AD retirement party.
Chancellor will use national search to find new athletic director | KUsports.com
I don't know why, but this search scares the hell out of me.
Lester 'shocked' by Perkins' resignation | KUsports.com
Shocked? Really? How come no one else was?
Self: KU in much better place than 8 years ago | KUsports.com
Bill Self obviously a Perkins fan.
Kansas Football
Quigley down on KU's offense | CJOnline.com
Not good when your starting running back calls out the team for lack of energy. Let's hope he can light a fire under some of these guys.
KU Football: The Honeymoon’s over | Kansan.com
The Kansan weighs in on the Saturday loss. Fitting title?
Jayhawks handle the boos | CJOnline.com
I'm a little disappointed by this. I heard some pretty bad stories about the way a certain player were treated walking to the locker room. I hope Jayhawk fans will try to keep things in perspective going forward.
Kansas offensive line struggling | KUsports.com
Yes they are...yes they are.
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player treatment
i concur with the fact that i don’t want our young student-athletes to be mistreated…some of them are young enough to be my son…however, this is big boy football, not a diverson until basketball season starts.
people are pissed about this game and what it means for our program, and if we are going to be at least respectable, a loss like this is just unacceptable. i don’t blame the players, i blame Turrible Game for his mickey-mouse handling of things.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 8, 2010 6:59 AM CDT reply actions
We're well aware of this.
i blame Turrible Game for his mickey-mouse handling of things.
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gonna keep banging the drum
the sooner he’s out of here, the better.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 8, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn.
When it comes to Turner Gill, I’m the most critical person on ths board. So much so, that I’ve been told to “get my head out of Mangino’s lap” (I still laugh at that one….).
Everyone of my criticisms was met with a fury of persecution (more so on KUSports.com than here).
But even I’m not THAT angry with him. Let’s give him the entire season before we make a critical evaluation. Yes the first game was a disaster of epic proportions. But maybe Coach Gill is the best coach in the country at Game 1 to Game 2 improvement? Coach Mangino always used to say that the most improvements came between Game 1 and Game 2. I believe him. Let’s see how this plays out.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
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nope
absolutely, nope…
i used this analogy to a coworker-if you hire somebody, and their first day on the job they come to work hung over and then proceed to yell at your best client, do you give him/her another day on the job? i don’t.
i am not going to sit here idly while this guy embarrasses our university with losses to 1-AA teams and blowouts to 1-A teams…sure, we can sit here and say, what if? but we all know it’s not going to happen, we know that we are going to come out and get absolutely destroyed by GT.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 8, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Jesus, dude.
i am not going to sit here idly while this guy embarrasses our university with losses to 1-AA teams and blowouts to 1-A teams
So what’s your plan? Write a few strident comments on some blogs? Send a strongly worded letter to the LJWorld? Make some Turrible Game Fail macros to post in message boards? Hold a vigil in front of the chancellor’s residence? Yell at your cat?
by knayte on Sep 8, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
you know what?
perhaps by sharing my opinion, this can influence enough people that action happens sooner rather than later…i will say that firing him after one game would be suicidal, as no coach worth his salt would come here and coach if they thought they would be judged so quickly.
perhaps others have said it better, that this puts him squarely on the hot seat with a short leash, and i am not hopeful at all that things are going to turn around…can we improve? of course we can…will we improve? based on the coach’s handling of things so far, i say he’s woefully unqualified for the job.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 8, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
your right...
Let’s can Turner Gill. Give up on him after one game (an embarressing game). Let’s not give him a chance. We saw all we needed in that one game. Just like KState should of canned Bill Snyder after his first season for goin 1-10. Oh Green Bay should of never of taken a chance on Brett Favre after his first season with the Falcons. Favre attempted 5 passes his first season, 2 were int. So yeah let’s fire Turner Gill. Its prooven that this first game is everything. Nothing else matters after that.
by hawkinwihita on Sep 8, 2010 8:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Canning him
Shows the US of A we mean business. KU won a freaking Orange Bowl and has decent talent. He is reaping the benefits of Mangino’s best recruiting classes. He had all offseason to prepare for this game. His team looked unmotivated, flat, confused, etc.
You are not allowed to ever lose to a 1-aa team that is coming off a 3-8 season. Period, cut and dry.
One game? Its more than that. If I, you, anyone massively screwed up at work and did something that massively embarrassed the company and hurt it, we would be fired. Even though it was “one” thing.
I’m not ready to fire Gill yet but that game has to at least put him on the hot seat. If we are not in a decent to good bowl next year he is gone.
Shit happens when you win championships
I think this is a logical take
but the “good bowl next year” part I’m not so sure. I say he gets this season to show us what he can do. 12 games will be more than enough to evaluate what this coaching staff can do, even if we get blown out in all 12 games (which we won’t).
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
What if we beat Georgia Tech?
Not saying it will happen or that it’s even probable, but it seems imprudent to be this gung-ho about firing the guy already. It was an embarrassing loss, yes, but we still have an entire season to improve and compete. Why so shrill?
awesome
In other news, I’m hearing Jordan Webb for quarterback on Saturday against Georgia Tech.
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Not sure why this is "awesome"
kid was the least accurate QB on the field last Saturday. And that include the 170lb Jose Mohler.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
Indeed - not awesome.
Pick was the better of the 2 QB’s. Especially if he gets to run….
There is no red like Chiefs red.
Webb > Pick
just cause Pick has the higher completion percentage doesn’t mean he’s more accurate. I could throw 5 yard routes all day too.
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I'm going by what I saw
both times I watched the game. Pick moved well in and out of the pocket. He was composed whereas Webb had some happy feet issues. Pick threw a couple of downfield strikes with a tight spiral hitting shoulders. That’s a sign of an accurate qb with a strong arm. Factor in his ability to burst downfield, to me Pick out-played Webb.
Look at the last offensive play. Webb stayed in the pocket for a half second. There was no rush. He flushed out and rolled off Thorson at right tackle. At taht point he was running for his life and threw a prayer down the sideline. Had he stayed in the pocket (he actually had some decent protection) he would have had a chance to better survey the field.
There is no red like Chiefs red.
I believe that was the play where
he threw the ball three yards behind Angus Quigley who had to reach back, grab it, and then take his D1AA pounding.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
OT- Stuck in a meeting all f'ng day
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parent teacher conferences...
don’t count.
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training
worse
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Seems kind of quick to pull Pick
And put in Webb doesn’t it? Hey you were ok, heres a new guy lets see how he does…
I’ve never seen a “coach” mishandle a qb situation so bad in my lives
Shit happens when you win championships
I agree
the only thing I can think of is that the deficiencies with Webb’s play are easier to correct than the deficiencies with Pick’s play.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
The running needs to be factored in too
If our RBs can’t do it, we will need SOMETHING to keep opposing defenses honest. Pick’s running could do that
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Sep 8, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
"Not good when your starting running back calls out the team for lack of energy."
I dunno, seems like we could’ve used some more energy on Saturday. If it’s not coming from the coaching staff, it needs to come from somewhere.
good point...
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I agree with you
This is part of the team finding it’s identity. Who will step up and SAY the things that need to be said both publicly and privately?
Sounds like AQ has stepped forward. This is a good sign.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
Albeit Applachian State was #1 in FCS at the time
with 3 championships in a row.
Michigan lost by 2 to them in 2007. The fan base was up in arms with Lloyd Carr (final season) and people were calling for his head. Michigan also had superior talent to KU.
The next game Michigan again lost at home to Oregon 39-7.
Then miracuslously after everyone thought the season was shot, and I mean shot!
They beat ND, #10 Penn St, Northwestern, E. Mich, #21 Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota, Mich St. They lost the last 2 games to Wisonsin and Ohio State, but then beat #9 Florida in a bowl game.
I say we have to give Turner at least a season before calling for his head. If he goes 0-12 then can the hell out of him!
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Michigan also had a coach that had won a national title
I’m not calling for his head officially, not yet. But losing to a 1-aa team that isn’t even good for 1-aa (or whatever its called now) should never ever ever happen. No excuses. So IMHO, Gill is now on the hot seat. After game one. Thats how big and embarrassing that loss was.
Shit happens when you win championships
Hey I agree with you
The seat is hot, I am completed dissatisfied with the team, coach, etc. But anyone who calls for his head after one game is delusional.
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One thing I'd like to say
They may have been bad last year but it is a very solid 1AA program.
I also think they may have proved that they could be a lot better this year.
Not trying to make excuses for the loss, have just seen a loooooot of people saying that this isn’t even a good 1AA team when I don’t think that can be judged thus far.
by I need more Esteban on Sep 8, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok fine then. They are a great 1AA team
But they are still ONE DOUBLE A! haha
Shit happens when you win championships
they're not good
I’ve seen them play a lot
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