Opposing Viewpoints: Baylor with Brice Cherry
After a week off with the lack of apparent coverage pertaining to New Mexico State, we're back with our opposing viewpoints series and our weekly Q&A with a writer/blogger/media personality from the opposing side.
This week Brice Cherry, sport writer with the Waco Tribune joins us to talk Baylor. Cherry also writes for and maintains the Waco Tribune's "Bear Blog" covering all things Baylor sports.
Brice gives some pretty solid insight into this weekends contest between the Bears and the Jayhawks and we also talk a little basketball as the season is right around the corner and Baylor figures to play a role in the conference hunt.
Rock Chalk Talk:
Early on Kansas has done fairly well in stopping the run, but they do appear to struggle with an athletic QB in a spread system. Obviously that pretty much describes Robert Griffin. How has he looked coming off the injury and do you see him playing at a level that can give the Jayhawks problems?
Brice Cherry:
In terms of his sheer speed, Griffin doesn't appear to have lost a step. He's not a guy that'll make a lot of shifty moves to make defenders miss, but when he's got a hole, look out. He's extremely dangerous and virtually impossible to catch.
Early in the year, Griffin looked a bit rusty in the passing game, as his timing and touch was slightly off. He didn't play particularly well against TCU, as the speed of the Horned Frog defense seemed to force him into rushed throws. But he rebounded nicely against Rice, including connecting on three passes of 40-plus yards. He's not a guy that'll turn it over much, with only five career interceptions.
In terms of the defenses Griffin has faced this year, Kansas will probably have the second-best unit behind TCU. But he's Baylor's chief playmaker by far, and the Jayhawks will certainly need to account for his dual-threat abilities.
Rock Chalk Talk:
On a similar note, talk a little more about the Baylor offense as a whole. The focus from the outside always seems to be on Griffin, but who are the other key contributors and what have they done well early this year?
Brice Cherry:
Baylor's running game was non-existent last year, due to the injuries to Griffin and tailback Jay Finley. It's better this year, but the Bears are still more likely to try to move the ball with short passes, while taking the occasional shot downfield.
Griffin has 10 passes of better than 25 yards this year, including six for touchdowns. Sophomore Josh Gordon is the primary deep threat, while junior Kendall Wright is the team's best all-around weapon at receiver. Wright is quick and athletic, and is coming off a good game against Rice (7 catches, 106 yards, 1 TD). Sophomore Terrance Williams has emerged as a quality possession receiver, and he's been particularly efficient on the slant over the middle.
In the backfield, Finley is probably the team's top home run threat at running back, but questions remain whether he still has the same burst he had two years ago, when he ran for 865 yards. Terrance Ganaway is a bruising north-south runner, and is coming off his best game of the season, as he piled up a team-high 79 yards against the Owls.
Rock Chalk Talk:
How can Kansas slow Art Briles, Robert Griffin and the Baylor spread?
Brice Cherry:
TCU gave Baylor problems with heavy pressure on Griffin, so the Jayhawks may look to blitz with more frequency. That could put KU's secondary in some on one-on-one matchups with Baylor's receivers, however.
Some teams assign a "spy" to keep an eye on Griffin at all times. But the Baylor QB is pretty adept at knowing when to run and when it's not a good idea. The bulk of his running yards generally come off scrambles rather than designed plays.
Limiting Baylor to shorter gains on first and second down could be key for Kansas. Like most teams, the Bears are much more effective on third-and-short than third-and-long.
Rock Chalk Talk:
Defensively what seems to be the consensus on Baylor at this point? They seem to have some talent and appear to be developing some speed, but they also seem to struggle in a similar fashion to Kansas.
Brice Cherry:
This is definitely the fastest defense Baylor has had under Briles. Is it the best? The jury is still out.
Against Sam Houston, Buffalo and Rice, Baylor's defense was very effective, surrendering just one touchdown in those three games. But TCU ran through Baylor's defense as if it wasn't even there. Baylor took some criticism for playing its corners too far off TCU's receivers, allowing Andy Dalton to pick the Bears apart. But it was kind of a pick-your-poison situation, as TCU piled up plenty of yards on the ground, too.
Baylor's pass rush is probably marginally better than it has been the last couple of years, but the Bears still don't record a lot of sacks. The linebackers are fast and athletic, but the secondary is hurting, with injuries to key contributors like Antareis Bryan, Clifton Odom and Romie Blaylock.
Rock Chalk Talk:
Art Briles is entering his third year with the Bears, what's the feeling around Waco and in the Baylor community in terms of what he's done to date and on the football program in general?
Brice Cherry
Baylor fans are desperate to reach a bowl game. The program hasn't gone bowling since 1994, and the fan base's patience is wearing thin. Most Baylor fans agree that Briles has recruited well, much better than his predecessors. His inaugural season in 2008 was viewed as something of a mild success, as the team was instantly competitive, though it usually came up on the wrong end in close games.
Last year, most fans were willing to give Briles a bit of a pass because of the injury to Griffin. There's a certain segment that thinks Baylor would have been in a bowl had Griffin stayed healthy, and I tend to agree with that.
But it's bowl or bust this year. If Baylor can get to those magic six wins, Bear fans will be turning backflips, and should support Briles as he continues to try to build up the program in the always-tough Big 12 South. But should Baylor fall short, there will be plenty of fans calling for his head. (Although the school's administration is unlikely to get rid of him after just three years).Briles is a likable guy, popular with his players and high school coaches around the state. But ultimately he'll be judged by Baylor's win total. In that sense, this game against Kansas is key. Most Baylor fans are viewing it as a must-win.
Rock Chalk Talk:
Basketball question and extra credit. Is Baylor turning into the lone Texas basketball school? And what do they need to do to win the Big 12 this year?
Brice Cherry:
As I said, the majority of Baylor fans are tired of the football struggles and ready for a turnaround. But undoubtedly, Baylor's success in men's and women's basketball has created a year-round hoops buzz.
Scott Drew's team is coming off an Elite Eight appearance, and drew huge crowds for the NCAA regional in Houston. The Bears will miss Epke Udoh, last year's breakout star, but freshman Perry Jones should help make up for his vacancy. Jones is viewed as an NBA lottery-type talent, and is expected to make an immediate impact. With guys like LaceDarius Dunn and Quincy Acy back, Baylor should be in contention for a Big 12 title.
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What he meant to say...
Was Baylor should be in contention for a Big 12 runner up.
But back to football. Thanks for this. Its always good to read something coming from the other side. Can’t wait til Saturday morning. Just hope I’ll be awake for the game.
by hawkinwihita on Sep 30, 2010 11:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
This game really is a must-win for Baylor
And us, but if the bears win this one they have four wins. I’d bet money they’d be able to win two more (especially agains North teams or beat a TAMU or Tech) and make a bowl
Shit happens when you win championships
I agree
Baylor seems to always be “on the cusp” and needing just one signature win to get over the hump. But then they suffer a key injury, bad call, or something else that derails the whole thing. This would be a very good road win for Coach Gill if KU can get it done.
Yes, the mutual do-or-die nature of this game sucks
I definitely root for Baylor in their non-KU games. I’ll hope either way that the loser can pick up the pieces and still get to 6.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Sep 30, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Is RGIII an NFL QB prospect?
And could Michael Vick’s reemergence open up more opportunities for more running QBs in the league?
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Sep 30, 2010 6:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I haven't heard much about him...
in terms of the NFL. I guess I’d lean toward no, but I can’t pretend I’ve seen enough of him to really know for sure. Baylor just isn’t on TV that much.
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Good question and from what I've seen, I'm with Owen.
However, he is better than other running QB’s we’ll see this year. He’s a complete QB that can run the ball.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
5 INT's in 18 games (?)
says that he can definitely throw the ball. If he was most anyplace else, he’d be winning more and getting more exposure, therefore more NFL, … hype.
It’s also good to remember that this is only his second year; last one being essentially lost.
I think you guys are forgetting or ignoring.....
That RGIII holds the Big 12 record for most consecutive completions without an INT. And he did it as a true freshman. And he did it behind Baylor’s weak OL. And he did it mostly against the Big 12 South teams.
If you ask me, he’s a better passing QB than he is a running one.
A KU INT in this one will be huge for a multiple of reasons. But the odds are stacked way against that happening.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
+1 for dagger and Rivet
I’d take Griffin over Locker any day of the week. Dennis Dixon flaming out didn’t help Griffin’s stock any, but he’ll at least be drafted. Seneca Freakin’ Wallace is an NFL QB (although a backup), and I would see that as Griffin’s floor. And I could see McNabb as his ceiling.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 1, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
In terms of the defenses Griffin has faced this year, Kansas will probably have the second-best unit behind TCU.
That is encouraging, since TCU essentially shut them down.
I think there is this misconception that Baylor will score a bunch b/c they have done it against lesser D’s. I think the same happens on O. They may give up an average 7 pts in their wins, but I’m betting that KU is closer to TCU than Buffalo.
I predict the young guys learned from the trip to Hattiesburg, are less intimidated by Waco, and come home with a W.
Why is this encouraging?
Brice is making the obvious statement here and putting it in terms a Jayhawk fan reading a Jayhawk blog would like. Obvious fact, after 4 games Kansas will have the second best unit behind TCU.
Well, TCU is ranked 5th in the country. Whereas, Buffalo and Rice are probably over 100 and Sam Houston is not in the top 50 of the FCS. Huge chasm here and even if KU is closer to TCU it wouldn’t be by much.
I expect he can say the same thing next week when they face TTU.
What I agree with is your enthusiam and appreciate your expectation that our young team will win. We will see how much a national night game on the road has helped this team overcome some hurdles. I just don’t want our LB’s to be looking slow. If so, we will be in trouble.
by eastcoasthawk on Oct 1, 2010 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions
If KU is midway between TCU than BU
then the score works of to 26 – 21 KU (avg W = 33 – 7 vs L = 10 – 45)
+5 for KU is a 14 point swing from the 9 pt underdog prediction by Vegas and many (all LJW writers), which to me is pretty huge.
In very specific, enginerdy terms, that was my point, which I tried to make in the 2nd paragraph.

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