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Diving A Little Deeper Into Position Changes and The Depth Chart

Yesterday the Kansas football fan world was fed.  After stumbling through most of August with little or no direction the depth chart was released, position changes were announced and the starting quarterback was named.

It marked one of the first time since training camp started that a report wasn't full of generalities or bad news in many cases.  The depth chart represented progress, one more step toward North Dakota State and a snapshot of what's shaping up for the Kansas Jayhawks in 2010.

Initial reaction primarily revolved around the position change of Toben Opurum and the naming of Kale Pick as the starter.  Twelve hours later with dust still settling and a chance to chew on things a little further, what are the storylines and positive indicators from the first depth chart of the 2010 season.

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The Mangino Doghouse and Second Chances

Everyone's heard of it at this point.  The Mangino doghouse.  Certain players who never seem to catch on, or players who had shown potential suddenly disappear.  Obviously it can't all be the wrath of Mangino as several of those said players have since found there way out of the Turner Gill led program, but with this new depth chart there does appear to be a few players that have flourished with the change. Players that perhaps truly did have something to contribute all along but somewhere along the way fell out of favor.

Steven Foster represents the first and probably the most obvious player in this regard.  With Foster it may not even have been the doghouse but perhaps just a bad fit.  Kansas didn't use a fullback and everywhere else that he seemed to move just didn't work out. 

During spring ball with Coach Gill, Foster had struck a major chord with the new coach and looked to be primed for a push for minutes.  A mid summer slump and a brief hiatus left doubts, but hats off to the Kansas native as he's rallied, put in the work and is the starting fullback on the depth chart. 

Olaitan Oguntodo is another player that stands out.  Most probably won't remember it, but he played in nine games as a true freshman only to disappear for the next three years.  Now in his final season of eligibility he appears to be in a spot to contribute by beating out Prinz Kande for the starting strong safety position.  For the better part of two years his name has been tossed around as a solution at a variety of positions and someone who should see the field.  Here's hoping this is a second chance that works out for the player and the team.

Athleticism is the Name of the Game

Turner Gill talked about improving team speed and putting Kansas in a position to compete athletically with other teams in the future.  Looking at some of the names on the depth chart, he's making a push to do that immediately.

Isiah Barfield and Greg Brown are two players at corner that have never appeared this high on the depth chart, in fact Barfield has rarely appeared at the same position for more than two weeks in the past two seasons.  If there is one thing these two clearly provide when talking to anyone connected with the program, it's speed and athleticism.  If Kansas is going to press more and play tighter in coverage, they are going to need guys like this.

Daymond Patterson and DJ Beshears are two players offensively who very clearly represent this shift as well.  Recent Kansas teams have rarely featured a player like either of these two in the slot and the mismatches they can create are going to prove valuable.  Beshears has reportedly clocked in the 4.3 range on his forty time and has also been used in whatever the Kansas version of the wildcat has been called.  Meanwhile Patterson has been one of the most consistent high performers through camp.

The Utility Position

AJ Steward is listed first on the depth chart at the utility position and sign me up for the fan club.  I like what he brings to the table in terms of size and ability and like Foster he just hasn't had a home until now.  Jimmay Mundine is a potential great player for the future here and if Kansas truly uses this the way other programs do, then it will be a welcome opportunity to see this type of player get involved and contribute.

Defensive End

It's just names on paper, but for some reason this depth chart puts me much more at ease about the position.  Jake Laptad is a player on the strongside that can contribute the majority of the snaps and Kevin Young could slide over if needed.  In addition Keba Agostinho has impressed plenty of people at camp so far.  He's still just a freshman, but having an option to spill Laptad is what Kansas is looking for.

On the weakside the three way battle between Tyrone Sellers, Kevin Young and Quinton Woods in encouraging.  It's especially encouraging considering four months ago most would have the order flipped.  Sellers has added good weight and kept his speed, Kevin Young is definitely improved physically and Woods still has that potential to be a pass rusher when needed.

Receiver Depth

It's not a surprise at all, but when you put it on paper the depth, the quality and the youth at receiver is impressive.  Christian Matthews will have the opportunity to put his mark on Kansas before it's all said and done.  Chris Omigie and Erick McGriff are both in the discussion and after the season, Kansas really only loses one, maybe two players out of the eight listed. 

Defensive Tackle

This is one of the areas that still raises a red flag for me.  Kansas has Pat Dorsey and Richard Johnson starting.  Yes both have overachieved in a lot of respects and if they are performing the best in camp then it's 100% the right move.  What's concerning is not seeing Darius Parish push for minutes on the two deep and John Williams flying below the radar.  Kansas needs those players to step up and provide real size at the position for the Big 12 conference run.

On the bright side, it is good to see Randall Dent making strides.

Linebacker Depth

This is the other concern and it's been covered ad nauseum.  I'm sold on the starters after being reassured from every angle under the sun, at least I'm cautiously optimistic.  I also think we can find some suitable second tier players, but do they ALL have to be walk ons?  I like Peterman, Coach Gill has praised Mestan, but where is Josh Richardson or Dakota Lewis?  Let's hope Toben can make a quick transition and contribute by conference play at some level or better yet, let Peterman, Mestan and maybe even Dakota Lewis surprise me and watch Toben take a redshirt leaving him three years left at the position after the switch.

Offensive Line

Last comment, who doesn't like this group?  Hawkinson, Zlatnik and Capra anchoring the center through left tackle positions as local players going to a local program.  Trevor Marrongelli on the right side with his aggressive style, playing right along side Brad Thorson who is a smart player and someone who can be a vocal leader on the team. 

Moving on to next year even you have Riley Spencer waiting in the wings at right tackle.  Jeff Spikes returning.  Jeremiah Hatch will hopefully respond to his current challenge and Kansas is once again positioned to have solid depth and good competition across the offensive line while the six incoming recruits take a year to develop and prepare physically for their turn.

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I LOVE the OL depth chart

The depth will apply constant pressure to perform on the starters. And that can only mean better overall performance.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 20, 2010 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Holpefully next year we can haul in a shit ton of DLineman, or move at least two of the current recruits. Get a ton of competition and depth in the trenches is the blueprint to starting a successful (again) program

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Aug 21, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

For some reason, I'm now really nervous about this season.

If Opurum can’t pick up on LB quickly, that means one of our more talented players won’t see the field at all this year. Same with Terry moving to Safety.

As for Pick, I was starting to slide over to the Webb camp. Feel bad for the kid, we’ll see what happens. So far we’re seeing a lot of changes with the new regime. Interesting how two different staffs can have such different player evaluations.

There is no red like Chiefs red.

by labbadabba on Aug 20, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Terry was going to redshirt

At either position.

But you should be nervous about the season like the rest of us. We have a new staff, system and lost of four of the most productive KU players ever.

by jayhawk79 on Aug 20, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed...

Terry’s move isn’t designed to provide immediate help. It’s just where they see him contributing in the future.

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by Owen on Aug 20, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Screw nerves

It’s just a game. Enjoy it for what it is….

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 20, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

^^^this guy… : )

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by Owen on Aug 20, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't wait to see

Pick, Beshears, Patterson and Sands or Bourbon on the field at the same time. That would be more speed and athleticism at the specialist positions than we’ve seen in well over a decade.

by jayhawk79 on Aug 20, 2010 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

As usual

Sims gets forgotten……….

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 20, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

but all the more reason

to be comfortable with Toben moving to LB.

All of that, and the potential for even more significant contributors in the next class.

by dagger108 on Aug 20, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not forgotten

But omitted from the “speed and athleticism” lineup. Sims may be the best all-around back on the team, but he’s far from the fastest.

by jayhawk79 on Aug 20, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe not the fastest

but I’ve heard he’s the most agile. That kind of hints he has some athleticism, doesn’t it?

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 20, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus.

Read my post again. He’s not fast, so I didn’t include him.

Feel free to post a lineup that makes you excited instead of complaining all the time.

by jayhawk79 on Aug 20, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need real games to talk about.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

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by Warden11 on Aug 20, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 weeks from tomorrow.

is it me or is College FB starting a week later than normal? It usually starts the weekend before Labor Day…

There is no red like Chiefs red.

by labbadabba on Aug 20, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Read MY post again

I’m not the one complaining. I understand he’s not the fastest and that’s why you didn’t include him. The kid is supposed to be one of the most elusive and agile backs we have. I would think that means he’s pretty athletic. I was asking if you agree.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 20, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

"This kind of hints he has some athleticism, doesn't it?"

Seemed fairly argumentative. Apologies if you were merely asking a question. It was just making a post about a scenario that would be exciting to me.

After watching high school clips and KU game film, I believe the strengths for each RB are as follows:

Strength – Quigley
Speed – Bourbon
Agility – Lewis, Sands
Vision – Sims

Sims has the best all-around package, and believe he’ll be the starter of the future.

by jayhawk79 on Aug 20, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I wasn’t intentionally coming accross as argumentative. I really was just asking your opinion on his athleticism.

I agree with your strengths list. I would add that Bourbon and Sands supposedly are good pass catchers too.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 20, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 6 OL commits?

Does that include the loss of the JC OC?

It was going to be nice to have the extra experience a JC could provide on the OL, but it’s a defection that bothers me only slightly more than CU’s.

by dagger108 on Aug 20, 2010 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep...

still six…all will be incoming freshman.

Nick Johnson to Baylor was going to happen if they ever offered. It’s his hometown, his brother plays there and he was told he could play multiple positions with them whereas our staff wanted him at center. Tight end/fullback was even a long shot possibility thrown around at Baylor depending on how things shake out.

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by Owen on Aug 20, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

a comment from a poster in another thread...

he commented that Lewis is battling a nagging injury and it sounds like we might all need to move on from the notion that Josh Richardson is going to play linebacker based on what he indicated, sounds like he just doesn’t have it yet.

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by Owen on Aug 20, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Richardson was a gamble.

Warinner offered him because of his athleticism and frame (look at his brother Jay). He wasn’t even a walk-on candidate at Ohio State.

by jayhawk79 on Aug 20, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice take

rec’d

There is no red like Chiefs red.

by labbadabba on Aug 20, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm all for the move of TO to LB and think AQ will be fine...

…but we have to remember that although Angus might not have had a great deal of fumbles in game situations, he probably did in practice. You don’t perform well in practice, you won’t see the field. I’m hoping that Mitchell has worked on some techniques with him so that he’s more sure handed now.

by freudhawk on Aug 20, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I had heard that the reason he didn’t see a lot of PT was because he fumbled a lot in practice.

But “he was in Mangino’s doghouse” makes for a better story…….

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 20, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

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