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Position Outlooks: Quarterback

Initial thoughts at the quarterback position are that this is going to be tough.  Sure Todd Reesing struggled through 2009, but he was a special player and someone who could make plays, see the field and keep things alive the way few can.  As Kansas enters 2010, they need to find a replacement.

The good news, the other difficulty at the position is determining who should start.  A two man competition between Jordan Webb and Kale Pick seems strong as ever.  The hunch has and continues to be that Kale Pick will win out, but more and more it appears that Webb is unwilling to give up the position easily.

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Projected Depth Chart

QB: Kale Pick, Jordan Webb, Quinn Mecham


The Candidates

Kale Pick

Pick is a redshirt sophomore and the only quarterback on the roster to have seen any action at the division one level.  Kansas hasn't been in the position of needing a new quarterback for several years now, so the fact that there has been a little preview into his abilities is reassuring in some respects.

During the 2009 campaign Pick was rarely given the opportunity to throw but did show the ability to make plays with his feet.  At 6'1" 210 Pick has good size and while he's viewed by many as a quarterback that can run, he absolutely has the ability to throw the ball as well, he just needs the opportunity.

For what Kansas and Chuck Long will most likely want and need to do to be effective, Pick seems like the logical choice.  His ability to run different sets, different styles and do well in those styles will be key to a Jayhawk team searching for a new identity after three years in the pass happy spread. 

Jordan Webb

Webb continues to push for the starting job despite all indications that Pick will get the nod.  His unwillingness to give up the position is making things difficult in camp, but in a good way.

Webb is your more prototypical spread quarterback with the ability to make the reads, make the throw and out of the two quarterbacks he does throw the better ball.  He can stretch the field with his arm and make a crisp pass underneath just as easily. 

Where he doesn't present the same options is with his feet.  Certainly Webb can make plays with his feet, but it's not his game as much as a more classic passing style.  If the staff decides the tools are in place to continue with the offense from years past, then Webb might be the guy. 

In the end though, it's just nice to have options. 

Quinn Mecham

A junior college transfer that hasn't quite made the adjustment to the division one level.  Mecham has good size at 6'3" 205, but so far he hasn't factored into the conversation at all when it comes to the quarterback competition.  He was very successful at the junior college level, twice being named national player of the week in 2009.  During his sophomore season he threw for over 3000 yards and 40 touchdowns to just 11 interceptions.

If for some reason both Pick and Webb go down it will be nice to have a junior college star like Mecham waiting for his opportunity.  From there it's a matter of whether or not he can do anything with it.

Personally, I hope we don't get to that point.

Looking Beyond 2010

Obviously with Pick and Webb both still having two and three years of eligibility remaining after this season, 2011 and beyond figures to be much like 2010.  Whoever snags the spot this year will likely spend spring and fall of next season defending that spot and earning it again unless they are able to take Kansas to a level not expected in 2010.

Also entering the picture beginning in 2011 will be Killeen Texas quarterback Michael Cummings.  Cummings is a dual threat quarterback which has been the target all along for Chuck Long and Turner Gill and he measures 6' 200 pounds with upper 4.5 forty speed. 

It's unlikely that we'd see a true freshman come in and snag the job away from both Pick and Webb, but after a redshirt year and maybe another year learning the system, Cummings could be the quarterback that Gill makes his mark with at Kansas.

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If Pick wins

and we have a somewhat successful season, I don’t think Webb would be back next year.

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Why?

Webb would be just one injury (highly likely for a “running” QB in the Big 12) away from playing.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 17, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus he'd have his senior year to be the guy

The guy isn’t playing in the NFL. Why give up opportunity here to go to a crap school no one has heard of and be the starter.

Plus by the time he sits out a year from transferring he really isn’t getting more PT

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Aug 17, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why give up opportunity here to go to a crap school no one has heard of and be the starter.

What opportunity? He’d be relegated to the bench. This isn’t high school. Most players aren’t on the team just to make their dad’s proud, or to wear their jersey to school on Friday. They want to play in the games.

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has an opportunity here, he's fighting for a starting position

Pick=rs sophmore
Webb= rs Freshman

either next year or the year after Webb will be our starter

I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!

by Jayhawk12_28 on Aug 17, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

If KU wins

the starting position will be locked up until he is a senior.

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If KU wins

its not gonna be because of Pick

I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!

by Jayhawk12_28 on Aug 17, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not

but they’re not going to rock the boat. Sure, the coaches will say it’s an open competition and no position is safe. But anyone who has ever played sports knows that isn’t completely true. Especially when returning someone who had success the previous year.

by Triston27 on Aug 18, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

And what guarantee does he have to start elsewhere?

Like I said hes not some NFL dream prospect. He is a good QB, but he wasn’t a vince young recruit coming out of high school. He has as good a shot here as anywhere, and can get a degree from KU rather than North south west technical college for the inept

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Aug 17, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

No guarantee

but why not give yourself a shot. Even if it’s MWC school or some other mid-major. Are you saying that the next step down from KU is tech college? That’s a shame. I’d think a mid-major would be the next step.

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only QB

that I can remember recently getting hurt was Robert Griffin 3.

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sam Bradfordn was injured almost all of last year.

I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!

by Jayhawk12_28 on Aug 17, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Texas Tech

went through three QBs last year.

Texas used two :-)

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 17, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right on TTech

That’s the only place where an injury really opened a QB battle

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Landry Jones

was going to start this year regardless of taking over due to injury.

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only QB that I can remember recently getting hurt was Robert Griffin 3.

I think this is what you said. Then i through out The fact Sam Bradford was hurt last year too. So i wanna know how the fact that

Landry Jones was going to start this year regardless of taking over due to injury
changes anything.

I'd tell you to go to h**l but i work there, and i don't want to see you everyday!

by Jayhawk12_28 on Aug 17, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was in regards

to Rivet mentioning that Webb would only be 1 injury away from playing time and thus winning the position battle.

The whole discussion is about winning a job due to injury. Landry Jones was going to win the 2010 job regardless of Bradford’s injury.

by Triston27 on Aug 18, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

You must not have followed KU football

2002-2006.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Aug 17, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did

And how’d those QB battles due to injury work out for us?

What I’m saying is that if you’re relying on someone else getting injured in order to get some playing time, maybe it’s in your best interest to try to play somewhere else.

by Triston27 on Aug 17, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Gridiron video is any indication

Webb throws a much sweeter ball and is moblie enough to extend plays as well as running bootleg type plays.

The play in the credits looked like it was an option left but it wasn’t. The rollout moving to his left and Webb threw across his body to a player on the sideline. Really a sweet play.

This is going to be closer than we anticipated, I think.

There is no red like Chiefs red.

by labbadabba on Aug 17, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

agreed...

my money is still on Pick but I think Webb has definitely made this a tight race. And if things don’t go well, he’s right there ready to go.

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by Owen on Aug 17, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that will happen...

they seem set on naming a starter, probably soon. Then they’ll go that route. If a change is made, I don’t see it being a flip flop type decision. I could be wrong, but Long/Gill seem to know how to handle quarterbacks when you look at their track records.

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by Owen on Aug 17, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but remember what happened with Reesing Meier?

Meier plays pretty well, at least for a frosh, gets hurt. Reesing comes in and looks deadly, then we had games where they two were alternating series (I believe we did that against Iowa State).

I don’t think the staff wants to go that way, but if the offense is stalled it wouldn’t surprise me.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Aug 17, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pick reminds me of a young

Turner Gill protege, Scott Frost. (I didn’t say he reminds me of Turner Gill.) In the limited action he saw last year, you couldn’t help but fantasize about KU running a TRUE read option from the shotgun ala West Virginia under Rodriguez. Like Scott Frost, Pick is a very good runner and a serviceable passer. His running ability would definitely open up the play action passes to the positions I see as our playmakers this year: TE (Biere) and Slot (Patterson and Beshears).

September 4 can’t get here soon enough.

by K.U. on Aug 17, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I like the comparison...

and I hope you’re right. It would be a huge relief if the transition at quarterback goes well.

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by Owen on Aug 17, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

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