Opportunity Knocks At Linebacker
With the official word coming down on Huldon Tharp, the Jayhawks appear to have an opening at linebacker. Tharp was widely expected to be one of the starters after a true freshman season that saw the Jayhawk linebacker finish in the top 5 of the team in tackles.
The good news in the Tharp situation is he is young, he'll get to use a redshirt and return in 2011 with three years of eligibility. Provided he can stay healthy going forward he would certainly be a candidate to contribute on future Turner GIll teams.
The bad news? It's time to find someone for this year. Who are the candidates? Any favorites? And any sleepers prepared to seize the opportunity and put their name in the hat at linebacker?
First off let's go ahead and assume Justin Springer and Drew Dudley rotate minutes at the middle linebacker spot. Early signs point to a completely healthy Springer, but there is the possibility of a move to the outside for him if Dudley wins the spot or the Jayhawks decide to go big at linebacker. The same could be true for Dudley if Springer wins out. This is most likely a possibility in a game like Georgia Tech or Kansas State where the running game will likely be the focal point.
Outside of those two who are the more obvious outside linebacker types?
Josh Richardson is the first on the list. Richardson was listed second on the two deep after spring and while their is no depth chart currently, he's a good guess at a potential starting point. Richardson was a below the radar recruit following the '07 Orange Bowl season that was landed late by then offensive coordinator Ed Warriner. At 6'4" 195 with a 4.5 forty time Richardson was viewed as a bit of a project, but sometimes those are risks worth taking.
His situation was certainly aided by the fact that his brother, Jay Richardson of the Raiders, also hit a bit of a late growth spurt while at Ohio State and currently plays in the NFL at 6'6" 270.
For his part Richardson is now listed at 6'3" 225 so somewhere the Turner Gill regime lost an inch. The good news however is that Richardson has added 30 pounds to his frame since his arrival on campus and has clearly made an early impression on the new staff.
Steven Johnson is another candidate but at this point he should be viewed as the front runner for the strong side outside linebacker. Johnson is a bit of a unique story as he technically would have been a part of the 2006 recruiting class but suffered a setback due to injury and spent two years away from the game before joining the Jayhawks as a 20 year old with freshman from status from an eligibility standpoint in 2008. That puts Johnson at an age where maturity wise he's like having another senior on the field.
For two years in a row during spring practices Johnson has drawn very strong reviews. This might be the year we finally get to see what he can do with more time on the field.
Jacoby Thomas was listed behind Johnson and in the case of this redshirt freshman there are plenty of questions with not many answers so far. Thomas played end in high school and his recruitment was believed to be targeted toward the famous Mangino bandit package that produced some out of nowhere heroes in the past.
Standing 6'1" 243, Thomas' role could change. Early on the staff likes his ability to put a hand down and come off the edge in a pass situation. They also like his ability at linebacker against the run. The versatility is a nice thing, but can he be an every down player at either position is the real question? Just a redshirt freshman, Thomas has plenty of time to find a role and the good news is that the staff seems to like what he might be able to provide.
After Thomas things get a little thin. There are a few options left on the table including a walk on junior, a senior that would need to change positions and a potential true freshman starter for the second year in a row.
Jake Farley is the player that will probably see the most attention outside of the aforementioned group as he fits the profile of the type of player that could make an impact immediately. Farley is a 6'3" 215 pound son of a coach that was named first team all state in Iowa a year ago as a safety. Farley's father was even an assistant under Terry Allen from '97-'00 at Kansas.
Farley's biggest strength is his football aptitude and the fact that he's an athlete. He will draw comparisons early to a slightly taller Huldon Tharp simply because they are heady players that have the instincts to play. Now whether he's actually prepared to play at the division one level at one of the most physical positions on the field as a true freshman is a much much more difficult question.
Chea Peterman is a junior walk on for the Jayhawks who is similar in stature to Tharp at 6' 213. Peterman was the Arkansas defensive player of the year as a senior and has put in plenty of work on the Jayhawk scout team. A fresh start with a new staff and a difficult injury might just provide a few spare minutes to float his way on gameday and who knows, maybe he'll surprise a few.
Olaitan Oguntodo. A name that isn't even listed in the outside linebacker discussion as he's still listed at safety. But why not? Fans have been mentioning the senior safety for the past two seasons as a great "tweener" type to combat the spread. He played in nine games as a true freshman in 2006 and even saw action at linebacker before moving to safety full time in '08. Oguntodo is a two time first team Academic All Big 12 selection and was a top 70 recruit out of the state of Texas. If their is a logjam at safety and he's not going to see the field, maybe this is an opportunity for him to help the team?
Other prospects include: Dakota Lewis, Sr. Jordan Fee, So. and Steve Mestan, Fr.
As you can see the loss of Tharp hurts, and the position is obviously an urgent need in future recruiting classes. Next year Ed Fink and Darius Willis will join the ranks. Fink could still work back into action this year, but that will depend on how quickly he recovers from a current injury.
This year some combination of Dudley, Springer, Johnson, Richardson and Thomas would seem like the most logical rotation, but look for Farley to push for time and possibly force Turner Gill into burning his redshirt early.
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My hope is with Johnson
But Richardson has potential too. I totally forgot about OO…..moving him might be the answer.
I think Coach Gill will be like any other coach and put his best 11 on the field regardless of position. So I don’t think Dudley and Springer will rotate…..I think they’ll both be on the field simultaneously. My guess is that Springer would move outside. But who knows……..
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If he goes that route...
I’d suspect Springer at strongside, Dudley in the middle and Johnson at weakside. That’s a nice unit, leaves some coverage ability to be desired but it would be a good group.
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Here's hoping
Dudley is smarter and faster this year!
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
For a little more insight
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/aug/12/full-strength-kus-dudley-eager-prove-himself-after/
I seem to recall hearing comments about injuries (and playing thru recoveries) as being a big part of the down turn in the LB production from ’07 to ’08.
Definitely agree that it would be nice for a LB (and not a safety) to have 90+ tackles.
I read that.
That’s a pretty good article.
But a shoulder injury isn’t going to make Dudley any faster, which was my primary complaint against him.
But a year older and wiser and now healthier….perhaps we will see a better Dudley. Onward and upward.
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Gill has mentioned Steven Johnson
a couple times already. I see him stepping in.
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My opinion
Dudley – Springer – Johnson against rushing teams (GTech, SMiss, KSU, CU, NU)
Springer – Johnson – O.O. against the spread with a lot of the nickel package with Chris Harris.
Done and done
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I recall reading an article about SEC D's
that commented on it being common for them to use a LOT of 2-deep rotations, especially up front, in order to keep guys fresh thru the game.
To what extent is that reality and a consideration at LB?
Is that one of the significant differences between mediocre, good, and great teams that casual fans miss b/c it is easier (for hack journo’s, obviously not RCT writers) to just talk about starters and not explain the finer points of the game (or maybe even learn them)?
Well
there is a reason that more teams are employing the hurry-up offense. And it’s to keep defensive subs from being able to come onto the field and get into position before the snap.
So I think there is a lot of validity to that theory (a lot of 2-deep rotations used).
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I think we should go
Johnson, Dudley, Springer. I tried it on NCAA11 last night and took Nebraska to the woodshed. also I would like to see Farley get a shot
No Secret....
Torbush said at Media days that they are comfortable with 4 LBs right now and are looking for a 5th. Springer at MLB, Johnson at WLB, and Dudley at SLB. Peterman has been only other LB running with the 1’s in Camp. He has been backing up all 3 LB spots and was with the 1’s in the first scrimmage because Dudley was gone.
I'd be happy to see Peterman...
get that opportunity. He had a nice resume coming to KU. I don’t know the whole history in terms of his recruitment but I’m glad he ended up walking on at KU, I’m sure he had some offers on the table . I haven’t heard Torbush’s comments, did he give any indication where they felt most comfortable with Peterman rotating in?
Interesting that he would be viewed as the backup at all three potentially.
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My roomate (player) said....
He started Sundays scrimmage at Sam and played all 20 snaps with 1s. Turned around and had to play all reps at MLB with the 2s. Pretty sure he is the only LB to play all 3 spots in Camp so far. Torbush wants Drew, Justin, and Chea to learn all 3 spots. Not sure what position he will be on depth chart……still figuring that out I guess.
probably a good move by Torbush...
giving themselves options. I guess the good news is that we have three guys that have been around and bring some experience to the table. Hopefully they can find a good group/rotation to work with.
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oh and btw...
welcome to the site and thanks for the info. Hopefully we’ll hear from you more often.
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You have a roommate who is on the team?
I like this… inside information. Someone lock this guy up with a lucrative deal. Owen, get the papers ready
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by Andrew Clark on Aug 11, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
"sam" "1s" "2s"
Oh good God. We’re turning into KSU (which really is only trying to emmulate the bugeaters).
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Is there an article
of some sort coming on Peterman? I couldn’t find much of anything about him, but that just really shows my limited connections. Sounds like he has an interesting path to here. Is he our FB Moody?
Ask and you shall recieve....
coming your way tomorrow…a Chea Peterman story. A little background on his path to KU and some stuff about this year.
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Whatever takes Herbie and pals to the woodshed
is a good thing.
Dakota Lewis....
is a little banged up and limited. Its a shame because I think he could have been a Tharp type player.
Any idea
when they’ll release a new depth chart?
It probably makes sense for the coaches to give the new guys a little more chance to learn and show what they can do.
I know they have a depth chart...
they are working off of internally. They determined that after the first scrimmage. I’m hoping to have something here, at least a very rough outline sometime early next week.
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If we follow the timeline in "The Gridiron"
that depth chart was developed Monday. I’m surprised it hasn’t been “leaked” yet.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
Tough to leak...
44 names without a serious conversation or series of conversations. Next week perhaps : )
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Getting back to the original write up
Owen are you surprised that Peterman looks to be LB #4 over Richardson?
I am.
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...a little...
I had heard he was doing very well in the spring and even early fall, but I guess I thought someone like Richardson would work in there.
I guess at the same time when you look at them as football players Peterman was a ready made prospect in all reality, he just didn’t have the measurables. In terms of production on the field though, he was a hell of a player at the high school level.
Richardson is the opposite. Good measurables, good pedigree and your classic “project”. Sometimes it’s about finding football players and not worrying about how tall they are etc…hell look at Kevin Kane.
Not saying Peterman is going to do that, I don’t think anyone would expect that, but maybe he provides those intincts at the position that overcome areas where he might not pass the eyeball test.
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I'd take another Kevin Kane in a heartbeat!
Only I’d still hope and pray he’s faster than Kevin was!
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
I'll be the first to admit
I discounted Peterman because of his walk-on status and gave Richardson too much credit for the measureables.
But when you’re a fan looking in from the outside, sometimes that’s all you have to go on. These “surprises” are what make following the team fun!
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Measurables not as bad as you think...
Not sure where his height and weight came from but he is 6’2’ in latest roster and you can see that is pretty accurate by the LB group photo from Media Days. Thicker than 212 also. I would guess closer to 225. Played QB, RB, and some WR in high school so I imagine he can move ok. Heard a little rumbling last night that he may be limited for a while also……so LB continues to be an unknown.
Listing is from the media guide...
but the heights and weights have been all over the board compared to the past years so maybe they didn’t update his for whatever reason.
If he’s 6’2" 225, that certainly can’t hurt.
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Im still hoping Dakota Lewis
can get healthy. I think he can help provide good depth. He is a playmaker. Doesnt have that size you look for…..but heck…..either does Tharp!
starting to think he is your roommate you were referring to
I mean i’m hopin he can provide some depth also but i’m not counting on much from him as he hasn’t shown much since he got here..
Dakota led all tacklers in the Spring Game....
and was a pretty good special teams player before getting yanked by MM.
I would never say anyone is "locked" in...
but I think that’s the first spot he is going to go. I’m not sure this staff is going to be the type that we are used to where we’ll see shuffling all over the place just to try and plug gaps.
That’s something you do when you are thin, I think this group wants to take a long term depth building philosophy and hopefully avoid situations where half your team changes from offense to defense during the season.
At the same time, I see why you would ask…we are certainly thin this year.
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Hey Owen......
I’d like to request another article like this one. But titled….“Opportunity Knocks on the Defensive Line”.
What’s the news coming out of camp regarding the DL? Losing Greene was a hit, but that will open the door for others. Who’s likely to step up?
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Position previews will be coming next week...
I wanted to give it two weeks of camp while things took a little more defined shape with the staff. Since this is there first fall things were wide open, starting next week I’ll be doing a little more poking and prodding to try to get us a better picture of all the different positions.
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Yesssss
I thoroughly enjoy position previews
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by Andrew Clark on Aug 13, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions

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