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Pick or Webb?

            With th QB position arguably the most important position on the field; and its KU's question mark spot since we lost the most productive QB in Kansas football history. We are left with two choices to replace Reesing; Redshirt freshmen Jordan Webb or Redshirt sophmore Kale Pick.

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Kale Pick

6'2" 200lbs                                    

3 star dual threat QB

40: 4.5

Pick on his game "I can't settle for being known as the next guy. I've just got to keep going hard and getting better everyday."

Jordan Webb

6'1" 200lbs

3 star pro-style QB

40: 4.7-4.9 (not a lot on his 40)

scouts inc. "He is a Todd Reesing type- tough, scrappy, athletic and a winner."

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With the way the OL played during the spring, we’ll need them both.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jun 24, 2010 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I say

Pick wins the job and gives us the best chance to win. He looked the most comfortable of the 2 at the spring game. Granted all of that will depend on the O-Line and our ability to run the ball this year, something we gave up on last year. It is important to have a blow out in the first game to give both of them ample snaps.

by jb4 on Jun 24, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Personally

I dont think it will be over even if Pick takes every snap this year its just gonna be one 0f those QB battles that just makes the two of them better each year they compete against each other.

by Jayhawk12_28 on Jun 24, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I hear Webb...

throws a better ball, but we’ve all seen what Pick can do with his feet. Pick has a little better size as well.

as Jayhawk 12_28 said…I also think this is a competition that goes on but for this year, I’ll say Pick wins the spot.

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by Owen on Jun 24, 2010 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Pick is definitely the frontrunner

because of his performance in the spring game, but I like having both of them on the team to push eachother and force eachother to get better. I think Gill favors the dual-threat QB so I think in the end Pick will win the job for the rest of his career.

by trueKUblue on Jun 24, 2010 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Spot on!!!
I think Gill favors the dual-threat QB so I think in the end Pick will win the job

by MitchumMan on Jun 25, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt

every QB Gill has been after has been a duel threat. makes things look good for Pick

by dester30 on Jun 25, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I say Pick

He is too good a runner not to win the position. Even if Webb is a slightly better passer, Pick’s running, as we saw in a few glimpses last year, can be very dangerous

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 24, 2010 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't care either way

I just know who ever wins gives us the best chance to win. I also believe are running style will change the running style. If Pick is number 1 mostly option runs; if its Webb, more runs up the middle. “Watch out Geogia Tech Tharps gonna getch ya.”

by Jayhawk12_28 on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

oops

Wow not sure what i was doing in this response i’ve been having a bad day. What i was trying to say was the starting QB will effect the style of the run offence.

by Jayhawk12_28 on Jun 24, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets not forget though

That back when Meier vs. Reesing was going down almost EVERYONE thought/said Meier is the front runner, his running ability and athleticism will give him the edge, has more experience, etc.

And we saw what happened there. Reesing was a much better passer, won the job, we won the Orange Bowl, etc.

I know we used a more pass-happy then than we will under Gill but still…

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 25, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Not forgotten

but I think this is going to be a different style of offense that favors a mobile QB. And if our OL plays like crap, like they did this spring, then you HAVE to have a mobile QB.

by MitchumMan on Jun 25, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our offense can be whatever it needs to be to fit the QB

The QB ran all the time with Meier at the helm. It passed more with Reesing. With Meier we did options and reads more, etc etc etc. With Cornish and McAnderson we ran the ball a lot more, etc.

Our offense can be tailored around the players we have.

I want the guy who is going to win the most games, not who is best for the “system”

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 25, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice points grad!

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by labbadabba on Jun 25, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mr. Webb

I’m gonna take the less traveled road and say that this kid is our future QB he has to much upside to sit on the bench. I also think the same as for Pick but his future is not as our QB. His speed will make him almost like a utility player someone who can line up as a HB, WR, or you can try to work him in as a DB. But can you imagine all the trick plays you could run with the two of them in the backfield.

by Jayhawk12_28 on Jun 25, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like you are expecting more of a Reesing/Meier scenario

But that might be wishful thinking. Not every athletic quarterback can go “hey I’m a good athlete, didn’t make it at QB… I’ll go be an all-conference receiver.” I think whoever doesn’t win the job will be staying at QB and ready to jump in should the starter get hurt or struggle.

Lets not forget that often times in tackle foosball, the closer a QB competition/controversy is…the quicker the coaches will make a change. The same could be true this fall for whomever wins the job/doesn’t

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 25, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking something similar . . .

I think Pick will end up as the starting QB. However, I also think that Webb will thrown in if Pick starts to struggle—kinda like Reesing was in the Colorado game. It will be up to Webb to provide a spark and lead the team to victory. In the end, though, I still don’t think it will end up working out like Reesing/Meier.

by ISellDrugs on Jun 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.
"hey I’m a good athlete, didn’t make it at QB… I’ll go be an all-conference receiver."

I’ve said it many times about Meier but I’ll say it again here because it fits- that guy is a special athlete. He’s easily in the top 5 of baseball players I’ve seen for his age at multiple levels. Saw him when he was 12 and he was head and shoulders above everyone else. Same at 14 and same at 15. Not head and shoulders above the other kids around him but at age 14, he would have drawn looks on a legion field.

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by Warden11 on Jun 27, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF

The one area i think we are set at is the reciever core. I was just saying Pick’s speed can get him on the field kinda of like a some one who can line up almost anywhere. Honestly I dont think nor did i say “all-conference receiver” i dont think he could be a starting receiver at EMU.

by Jayhawk12_28 on Jun 28, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF MAN WTF!!!
someone who can line up as a HB, WR, or you can try to work him in as a DB/blockquote>

You implied he could move if he didn’t win the QB position not me. All I said was I think it’d be better if we kept a two deep at QB and that moving people like we did with Meier is a hard thing to do.

WTF! There wasn’t anything personal about the statement you don’t have to use abbreviated cursewords at me. Dude is salty

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 28, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

yes I didnt need wtf but i wanted a little emotion in what was a very dry response; a attention grabber if you will. I like speed and pick has that and if he was to loose his QB spot id hate to see that 4.5 sitting on the bench is all im trying to get across. I think Pick will win this QB battle based on (hopefully) his ability to create plays with his feet/keep them alive.

p.s. i said loose his spot because at this point i think he has shown more than Webb

by Jayhawk12_28 on Jun 28, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Words

loose = what Jenna Jameson, Lindsay Lohan, and Paris Hilton (among others) are.

lose = what KU did seven times in a row last season in football

Ok. I’m done.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jun 29, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not wild about a QB with the last name Pick...

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 26, 2010 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Unless he's awesome.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

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by Warden11 on Jun 27, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

His middle name is “No”.

by ISellDrugs on Jun 28, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

would have been much more suited for

Chase Daniel, I agree

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jun 29, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kale "I am not Chase Daniel" Pick

and/or
Kale “I am not Chase ‘Booger’ Daniel” Pick

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 30, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am very interested to see what the offense is going to be for KU.

I love Reesing, Meier, and Briscoe. The success they had was wonderful, but I started to hate the 60+% passing attack. I like watching running teams and I think with Pick KU will have a great opportunity to move that direction. Of course, they most effective offense is usually one that is 50-50 run/pass (like in 2007). I don’t know much about Gill or what kind of offense will have to I’m excited to watch the first game.

by Chyladin on Jun 27, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

From all accounts, it sounds like Gill wants to run a balanced offense with a run emphasis

We have a lot of options at running back and a possible athletic QB who can run, so we shall see

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 28, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Debbie Downer Time

My answer, long term? NEITHER. If you have to play two quarterbacks, that means you don’t have a quarterback. Both of these guys have been around for a while now. I know they’ve been introduced to a new offense this Spring, but neither one exactly lit it up at the Spring Game.

I expect fans to come to fully appreciate Reesing’s gifts at the quarterback position this season. He was a special player, and special players are incredibly rare. The fact that neither Pick nor Webb has been able to even hint at having “special” qualities so far is a really bad sign. One of these two must separate themselves from the other, or it could be a very long season.

I think we’ll be riding the qb carousel all year.

"Got a bill that's big enough to twist the Tiger's tail. Husked some corn and made those SORRY HUSKERS BAIL!"

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jul 3, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Though Reesing's gifts were largely hidden last year.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jul 4, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

He still

led the big 12 in passing yards. Im sorry but i mostly blame the offensive playcalling for the collapse of last year.

by Jayhawk12_28 on Jul 6, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

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