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Denver's Dish 6.21.10

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From time to time I come across a collection of information that doesn't exactly fit anywhere in particular but tends to be worth sharing. 

Last fall we had a couple editions of Denver's Dish served up right before the season started and a few times throughout the year.  Today we're still only a few weeks into summer workouts, but following a camp weekend and the arrival of some of the incoming freshman a few weeks back I've come across enough that I figured we'd throw it out there and get a little football chatter up and running again. 

Let's get on with it then shall we...

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Jordan Phillips appears to be much higher on Kansas than I originally believed him to be  to be ready to head to OU and never look back!!  Back in February when I started talking with him Kansas seemed to be the frontrunner, but as we discussed on here he fell through the cracks and wasn't contacted by the current staff until Oklahoma, Kansas State, Oklahoma State and Nebraska were already in the mix.

The talk surrounding the camp this weekend is that Phillips is very interested in the staff and but would "love" to rather play at Kansas Oklahoma.  The family atmosphere is a draw in Lawrence and he has connections to a pair of players that might also end up at Kansas.  However, he is also drawn to the name of Oklahoma and has to weigh his options in a big way with that opportunity out there.  I can't say I blame him.  This one is far from over yet, but it sure would seem that the Kansas program has jumped back into this in a big way.

Jordon McCallister,the offensive line prospect out of Junction City, had a great camp this weekend.  He's slightly undersized which has hurt his ability to draw many big name offers, but he is physically dominating at his current level and has tremendous strength and explosiveness at the center spot.  With Jeremiah Hatch and Brad Thorson both wrapping up their eligibility soon, this might be a good option for Kansas down the line.

Right now, Jordon would put Kansas at or near the top of his four favorites and an offer might just be cause for a commitment after his experience this weekend.

Speaking of Jeremiah Hatch and Brad Thorson.  There is a possibility that Thorson might be moving back to center after an injury that has the potential to keep Hatch out for an extended time.  If the move happens and Thorson heads back to his natural position, Jeff Spikes would likely get one more opportunity to prove himself at the right tackle spot.

On the incoming freshman front, two appear to be early candidates for playing time, both for different reasons.  Brandon Bourbon has shown up ready to play and has lo  Groked very impressive.anted it's literally only been two weeks on campus and the pads still haven't been put on, but if we played tomorrow I think there is a good chance we'd see Quigley, Bourbon and Toben on short yardage.

The other freshman is tight end Trent Smiley.  Depth is a major concern right now at tight end at the moment and Smiley still has some work to do, but the hope is that he will be ready to play in a double tight set by fall.  Trent will need a very solid summer of work to do so.  If he can't we could be looking at a walk-on filling out the two-deep.

Other good news in the backfield and this one comes from a player I've personally been rooting for from the beginning.  Steven Foster never quite found a home with the previous regime, but has been working hard in preparing for the fullback spot in 2010.  Turner Gill is a big fan.

Last one, DJ Beshears.  That's all.  If you were at the spring game you saw how often he was used and he's a player that is going to have the chance to turn some heads this year.  Could be a great little comeback story after he was thrown to the wolves as a true freshman.  He's fast, these coaches like fast.

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Let's keep that in the family

and just bring him on board nice a quiet like. Let him surprise the rest of the world in a year or so.

by dagger108 on Jun 21, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha my bad

ya i really like him, he dominated philips this weekend, and phillips has been killing everyone

by dester30 on Jun 21, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is Hatch's injury?

And how long do you think he’ll be out for?

I’m looking forward to the season beginning. Going to be a fun one to watch!

by MitchumMan on Jun 21, 2010 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Great update on the weekend's activities

Very concerned to hear about Hatch, especially as it seemed he conditioning was lacking in the Spring. An injury at this point in the game isn’t good!

Great to hear Foster stepping up.

by freudhawk on Jun 21, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the update.

How long to the first game? Can we get a countdown in the banner?

I am soooo looking forward to watching these guys get turned loose.

by dagger108 on Jun 21, 2010 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Wait

How could Coach Gill “love” Steven Foster?

He’s not even on the 2-deep and I heard the reason was “motivational”.

That doesn’t sound like love to me, but maybe I’m just used to the old regime.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jun 21, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Opps

I read “big fan” to = “love”

My bad. But still…….what?

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jun 21, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's #2 on the 2-deep

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thin at TE?

Biere, Tim
Dedeaux, Bradley
McNulty, Ted
Plato, Nick
Steward, AJ
Wolfe, Ian

A walk-on would be better than any of the guys on this list? I don’t know if McNulty is a walk-on or not but I just find it hard to believe that none of these guys are any good behind Biere.

by Rolo on Jun 21, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I was surprised to hear that as well...

and one of them could certainly emerge come fall practice, but I was told this was an area of concern and the staff doesn’t have a tremendous amount of confidence beyond Biere.

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they put that much more time

into recruiting Tapko for the 2011 season. Would love to land that kid!

OT: Noticed Travis Bodenstein is now listed as a 3* on Rivals. Always nice to see….

by MitchumMan on Jun 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

this doesn't really answer your question,

but wasn’t Steward shifted into more of a “receiver” capacity and less of a “blocker”

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 21, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s gone back and forth, but his natural fit would seem to be in the receiver capacity. I just don’t think they have seen what they want from him as a blocker at this point. I’ve been a big fan of his since last offseason though, so I continue to hope they can find a niche for him. He’s a big kid, works hard and a good athlete.

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed about hoping he can find the correct role and get on the field

at least the coaching staff seems confident they can take “athletes/former-QBs” and get results out of them in non-QB positions

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 21, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wolfe

Wasn’t he OL? OT? Did they convert him?

by dagger108 on Jun 21, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep...

converted to TE this spring.

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

That seems to indicate a concern

by the coaches for TE; the original question.

by dagger108 on Jun 24, 2010 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

beyond Biere...

it’s definitely a concern. And considering they’d like to run more sets with double tight and use the position more in the offense, that makes things tricky.

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by Owen on Jun 24, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right now it looks like McNulty. and I wouldn’t include Plato in that mix for the moment.

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by Owen on Jun 22, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great stuff

love seeing the “insider”-type info

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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 21, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Insider?

whatevs, Denver just got this off of the KUSports website.

Denver's such a hack...

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by labbadabba on Jun 21, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it really up on there?

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

well now I'm curious...

I just looked and I didn’t see an article talking about this stuff….? Did one of the LJworld guys already cover something I talked about awhile ago?

If so, sorry about that guess I should pay better attention. I blame conference realignment.

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeppers.

I figured the sarcasm font would be enough….

Sorry if I caused any trouble. But what am I to do without KC to keep me in line?

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by labbadabba on Jun 21, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

just checkin...

I caught the sarcasm font for calling me a hack…I just didn’t see it on the KUsports website part so I thought maybe I was repeating something they had just mentioned.

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

this might make you feel better

http://theshiver.com/2010/06/friday-night-lights-highlights/ highlights from the Friday night lights camp includes Jordan Nubine, Dreamius Smith, Chris Robinson, and jordon McCallister dominating Jordan Phillips

by dester30 on Jun 21, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow Nubine needs that offer

looks like a Dez Briscoe clone… and McCallister was also very impressive

by rockchalks7 on Jun 21, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya he played very well

that one handed catch is sick plus he probably gets us miller and thomas as well. also I REALLY want McCallister, loves KU, is strong as an Ox and dominated a kid who has been dominating good O-Linemen all summer

by dester30 on Jun 21, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

well that was quick...

guess he didn’t want to play at Kansas that bad after all.

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

in other commitment news

KU recruit OLB Nic Ornelas commited to OSU

by dester30 on Jun 21, 2010 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

welp...

I corrected my post with up to date information on Jordan Phillips.

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by Owen on Jun 21, 2010 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Nothing is over until we say it's over

was it over when Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!? Hell no!!

This sucks. Phillips is going to be a stud. We need to close the borders.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jun 22, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to nitpick

but the Germans DIDN’T bomb Pearl Harbor, the Japanese did…

by 608jayhawk on Jun 22, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I keep remembering how old I am

Rivet was making a funny reciting Animal House

by ocjhawk on Jun 22, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or how young -

I’m sure there’s more than one young’n on here that hasn’t seen Animal House…

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by labbadabba on Jun 22, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

My point exactly

I guess they aren’t showing the ‘classics’ to the young ones

by ocjhawk on Jun 22, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

And that's a crime

Animal House should be required viewing for all incoming college freshman.

And yes, that was an Animal House reference. God I love that movie.

build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.

by Rivethead on Jun 22, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw Animal House when I was like 8 haha

My dad loves that movie, and we so have it on VHS

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 22, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a reference to

the movie Stripes. Didn’t Bill Murray use that line? I haven’t seen either of those movies for so long. I can’t remember.

by Rolo on Jun 22, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The short and long versions

short version – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

long version – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q47bpOCTcaY
 “This situation absolutely requires a really feudal and stupid gesture to be done on somebody’s part.”

“We’re just the guys to do it!”

LOL

by WildHawk on Jun 25, 2010 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

*cough*futile*cough*

by sax solo on Jun 25, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could of sworn...

they mentioned serfs and aristocracy…or maybe not.

by WildHawk on Jun 27, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh -

here it comes…

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by labbadabba on Jun 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

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