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Report: Pac 10 Commissioner Kansas City Bound.

The Pac 10 plane has scheduled it's next flight segment and it goes from Austin Texas to Kansas City International.  With A&M apparently ready for the jump to the SEC this could be good news for Kansas.

At the same time this could mean anything.  It could mean they are meeting Mizzou officials, Kansas officials or something completely different.  I've got an eye on the flight plan so we'll see what if anything changes but takeoff is scheduled for 8pm.  It's going to be a wild week.

UPDATE: Matt Tait from KUSports.com is headed to the airport and claims his sources say the plane is in the air, on the way and planning to meet with Lew Perkins.  Lew has an opportunity to pull a Lloyd Christmas and "totally redeem" himself if this is true.

UPDATE #2: The Houston Chronicle now also reporting that A&M is likely SEC bound.

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I can NOT imagine he heads East once he reaches KC.

But y’all might want to put out some hors d’oeuvres or something.

by RPT on Jun 13, 2010 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

At this point I continue to expect the worst and hope for the best.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe joint meeting?

Anyway that Texas could be leaving Tech behind also?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

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by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't think so...

Tech has made it a major point of telling anyone and everyone that they are tied to the Longhorns. They aren’t stupid : )

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

They did just fire Mike Leach...because he was too mean.
They aren’t stupid

But Bob Knight fit right in.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok...
They aren’t stupid

, all the time. : )

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Mizzu has a solid football and basketball program, but Kansas has a solid football and powerhouse basketball program. No doubt it. You take Kansas over Missouri.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just realized something . . .

You know how we constantly complain about having to play Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech the same year in football for two years straight in our current schedule? If we go to the PAC 10, we’ll be playing these teams every year permanently . . . and yet I’m ecstatic about this news. That’s how fucked up this whole deal is.

by ISellDrugs on Jun 13, 2010 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

oh I agree 100%...

but at the same time you have to want your University to compete at the highest level if at all possible. In the end we may or may not have that opportunity, but it’s certainly what every fan hopes for.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absofragginlutely on target, Owen!

The greater the risk, the greater the reward.

Or, to borrow from the Big Apple song, if we can make it there…! :-)

Give Gill a Chance to Show His Stuff!

"So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

by LTCUSARet on Jun 13, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

long time no see LT..

hope all is well.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 14, 2010 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just a point but a big one

Its LTC as in Lieutenant Colonel. Just saying cause’ he earned it and likely our respect.

Doesn’t mean we cannot disagree with him here, althouth on these points I do not.

by ocjhawk on Jun 14, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

point well taken...

my mistake and thanks for the correction and yes, much respect for the Lieutenant Colonel.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 14, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lew.....

Anyone parked in front of Lew’s house to follow him when he heads to KC?

by Phogman on Jun 13, 2010 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Pac 10 offer?

If we get an offer to join the Pac 10 or what ever they are calling themselves while all this is going on. Someone better get the Sucide hotlines up and running in Columbia. We will also need to get the National Guard to set up Picket lines around Lawarence in case Quantrill rises up from the grave to try and smite us.

by Phogman on Jun 13, 2010 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I think if the Pac16 becomes a reality...

it’s possible the Big 10 goes 16 and Mizzou would probably be back in the mix. I think they’ll end up in decent shape.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

If the Pacific conference goes there AND the SEC grabs A&M, expansion’s not finished. You know the SEC would want at least one more team to balance out and at that point, might as well go to 16.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

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by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true,

I was also wondering what the SEC plans to do if A&M joins. Wouldn’t that put them at 13? You would think they would at least want an even number so they can make the divisions equal. I haven’t heard any rumors about MU to SEC though and I don’t really see why. They fit geographically and their main focus is football with two decen tv markets to sell.

by trueKUblue on Jun 13, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mizzou wouldn't be a bad fit for the SEC...

Arkansas is kind of on the fringe and the Arkansas v Mizzou rivalry would get going very quickly. Those schools already compete pretty regularly on the recruiting front.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If TAMU joins the SEC may just go to 14

And they would add someone to the East division with TAMU joining the west. They would almost assuredly raid the ACC for a Flordie State, Clemson type before taking MU.

I think MU has a much better Big 10 shot than an SEC shot

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is totally true

Mizzou fans REALLY NEED KU and the others to jump to the Pac 10. They aren’t heading West and the pressure of a Pac 16 will force the Big 10 and SEC to expand.

No way Mizzou gets left out of either one of those two 16 conferences. If they did then someone got in very undeservingly before them

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somewhat agree . . .

. . . but if that happens you also have to factor in that MU is now apparently down the list behind Notre Dame, Syracuse, and Rutgers. The Big 10 would need to go to 16 and not 14 for MU to get back involved.

by Chyladin on Jun 13, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heres some interesting sheet

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/11/pac-10-invites-on-the-way-with-kansas-looming-large-on-the-radar/

Per Carlton, Kansas and their storied basketball program would be moved upon quickly by the Pac-10 if A&M continues to drag its feet.

This is the first time we are aware of that Kansas has been so concretely linked by a reputable source to a move to the Pac-10, so certainly this could be a means to push A&M to making a decision sooner rather than later. However, Kansas has a lot to offer from both an academic and athletic standpoint so, distance aside, it would make sense that they would be an option.
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Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like AandM is on the fence

Possibly waiting for an official SEC invite. The Pac 10 if they lost out on TAMU would gobble up KU.

So I guess our fate is in the Aggies hands. Does TAMU have a spot in the SEC? Would they hold out for one and shun the Pac 10? Did they already and thus the plane ride?

Pretty damn interesting. I dunno, something tells me the Aggies are in the SEC already and the league is waiting to announce them AND another East team and KU will be Pacific bound…

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

YES YES YES YES YES YES

Memories of Memphis, be damned. Mizzou has its own version of The Door.

Live feed outside the door of the Mizzou Board of Curators meeting. Please join me now in remembering one of the greatest days of hilarity ever provided us by the internet.

by RPT on Jun 13, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

YES!!!

I’m always in favor of media coverage involving doors.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's funny to think...

that Mizzou is watching a door and Kansas is watching a flight path. What has the world come to?

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa...

Did SBN tech get your screen name changed in the amount of time it took you to respond?

by RPT on Jun 13, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

guess so...

changed it to correspond with the SB Nation Kansas City launch…which just happened.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also we are developing a plan B
The Jayhawks may also have another suitor: the Big East. Washington Examiner sports reporter Jim Williams posted a Twitter update saying Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Iowa State “are starting talks with The Big East.” The league would have a 12 teams in football and 20 in basketball.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Also visited some Pac 10 message boards

Most fans are pulling hard for the Pac 10 to land KU over TAMU. Some have said that KU is a better academic and social fit, while others have said KU can save Pac 10 basketball (in case you forgot, Pac 10 basketball last year was about as good as the Missouri Valley).

I know it doesn’t matter, but interesting to see Pac 10 alumns and fans pulling for the conference to land KU.

Looks like basketball WILL be a big factor in this afterall (Oh Riiiivet, where arrrre yooou?)

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

tee hee

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jun 13, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry Grad

But basketball is STILL and afterthought in all this. That hasn’t changed.

If KU had put the support into football back in the 70’s, WE might be in the Big Telelven right now and not have our hopes hinge on what another school (A&M) does.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Jun 14, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its obviously not as key as football

But I’ve read the Pac 10 and Big East both have cited our storied basketball as a real nice selling point. It certainly isn’t hurting us, and could be a tie-breaker

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 14, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

A good term would be

that KU’s basketball program is a mitigating factor – a positive one… Moot point now I guess regarding now-ish realignment/conf expansion.

--VegasCat07

by VegasCat07 on Jun 14, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate everything about the Pac 10....

Its the last major conference I would want to be in… But at this point beggars can’t be choosers I guess.

C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell

by averagegatsby on Jun 13, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

^this

I’d much rather be in the Big 10 or even the SEC but yeah, this does avoid the doomsday scenario. That said, I’m real squeemish about 2 things:

1) We’d still be in a conference with Texas…ulch

2) We’d be the ones betraying our storied rivalries with Mizzou and KSU…poor.

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jun 13, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction

We be betraying our rivalry with KSU. Mizzu betrayed our rivalry when they started prooting themselves for the Big 10.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

well yes,

but they never had a chance to act on it…

If we get an offer and bail, we’re ultimately the shitheads in this situation.

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jun 13, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moot point

I’ll stab every school in the back, front, side or any other direction imaginable and blow up every rivalry I possibly can if it puts us in a good conference and keeps us out of the Mountain West.

Its not our fault that our rivals and other schools aren’t as coveted as we are or Texas and our allies. Not our problem.

Besides we can still play Mizzou at Arrowhead in football and the Sprint Center in baskethoops. That game is too marketable and profitable for both schools to give up. It’ll be like MU vs. Illinois in St. Louis now.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

let's not count any chickens just yet

lest we learn the lessons that Mizzou is learning right at this moment…

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jun 14, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

that also means that Mizzou would have

two BCS non-cons. That’s not likely…

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jun 14, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

They'd get rid of Illinois for us in a heartbeat

The Border War means more, has a better turnout, makes more money, etc.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 14, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

NO Sprint Center for hoops.

Don’t take that game from the students.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 14, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer to keep games at home courts

I just think thats how they’ll do it

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 14, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

As far as I know

Mizzu never fully committed to the Big 12, and would be back to the same crap once the Big 10 expands to 14 or 16 in a few years. One of us will soon be out of the Big 12 looking towards greener pastures, while the other is left in the dust sometime in the near future. Might as well be us going toward the greener pastures, instead of the Tigers. KSU and ISU are just innocent bi-standers who got caught up in a mess they had no control over. Those are the two that would have any right being mad at KU for leaving the Big 12.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my biggest concern with keeping the Big 12 together...

how long can it last? and does anyone want to get stuck in this situation again if there is a chance to move on?

If it’s our only option…ok that’s fine, but if there are other solid opportunities I would be in favor of taking them.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 14, 2010 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

the only shithead in this

is Texas. I wouldn’t blame any other school in the north/Baylor for taking the first opportunity they get so it’ll be tough to feel bad if we end up with a better situation.

Plus, the MWC would still be a badass conference in football and may be even better for the schools being left behind. I would be completely happy with the MWC if it fit our basketball needs better.

by Walshdollar on Jun 13, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

And like ChiefsFan said

Mizzou openly stabbed the Big 12 in the back to begin with and openly said over and over “we want to join the Big 10” verbatim. I know they didn’t act on anything but their actions and statements are enough for me.

I do feel bad for KSU and ISU though, somewhat. Well I’d feel worse if so many KSU fans weren’t so meeeeeeean!!!!

I did read though that the Big East is looking at KU, KSU and Mizzou (probably our backup if the Pac 10/Big 12 stuff falls through) so if we join the Pac 10 those schools could land in the Big East and immediately compete towards the top in football and really get seasoned in hoops.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Delayed?

I could be watching the wrong plane, but the report I just saw was that the plane is still in Austin and delayed. Is that true? Just wondering if weather is playing into the factor.

by hawkinwihita on Jun 13, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I've been watching it...

and it doesn’t appear to have left the ground yet. Doesn’t look like there is any weather in Austin but KC and Kansas appear to be a different story.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heavy rain supposed to come in after midnight.

Pretty good storms through the Wichita area right now…

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I’m pissed. My satellite is out right now. Damn storms.

by hawkinwihita on Jun 13, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Sabotage I tell ya!

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

seconded...?

It would be another curveball.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you guessing or did you hear that?

With Colorado in, I guess it could be Baylor if A&M heads east. I got the feeling that adding Colorado was the Pac10’s way of showing Texas that Baylor wasn’t invited.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard multiple times...

that the Pac 10 does not want schools with religious ties. That’s why BYU was dismissed so quickly. I think Baylor was dismissed for the same reason.

by trueKUblue on Jun 13, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big 10 still wants ND...

I haven’t heard any rumors of ND going anywhere but Big 10.

by trueKUblue on Jun 13, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the Pac 1x

They are.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're a bad man labba............

by hunter s. royal on Jun 13, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

all in good fun...

The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986

by labbadabba on Jun 14, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's certainly possible...

but I’ve heard a few rumblings that Texas and OU were interested in Kansas if A&M fell through.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know Texas is pushy

But I doubt the talk the Pac 10 into taking Baylor over KU. Pac 10 has to draw the line somewhere, or you might as well let Texas just run the conference officially (instead of unofficially)

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grrr. I'm just going to turn on the Breaking Bad finale and check back in later.

This stuff is killing me.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

true that

Even Breaking Bad seems less dramatic than this real-life stuff!

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 13, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

these things have always moved very quickly...

once the word starts to leak. I’d guess that as soon as we hear one way or the other from A&M that things could move pretty quick.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait- according to Chip's Twitter

-the A&M athletic director was in Idaho when Slive and Scott were there
-A&M still hasn’t told the PAC no

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 13, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

that's very possible....

Pac 10 could be getting there ducks in a row in case A&M goes SEC or they could have something else going in KC even.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tweet from Nick Wright...

says the Pac10 has offered Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Kansas and Utah. Another interesting possibility.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

can we just say yes now?

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by fetch9 on Jun 13, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

for realz

if that’s true that would be awesome, but is OSU really going to get left out? hard to believe that OU and OSU would split…

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 13, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 13, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's so hard to believe?

The first time they were in the same conference was in 1960, their inner conference is as old as my dad. It’s not like the NU-KU rivalry was getting torn apart.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow thats interesting

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

However

I like this one better than OU, OSU, TU, TTU, KU, and especially better than OU, OSU, TU, TTU, and Utah. For the fact this opens up the Utah market to us as well.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it makes more sense

You get a different market and open up a new state, plus Utah is likely better football wise (slightly) and academically (just assuming here) than OSU or TTech

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

New flight schedule...

Just checked the flight plan. And there is a new plan filed. Leave Austin to KC at 8:10. Atleast that’s what flightwise.com said was filed. I could be wrong.

by hawkinwihita on Jun 13, 2010 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Last check on my end...

shows no flight took place, but the local media seems to believe it did and flight tracker was turned off. Not sure how/if that can happen but I sure hope that flight took place.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows? A agree hopefully it did. And if it didn’t the site I checked on shows one for Mon morning. So that’s still good news

by hawkinwihita on Jun 13, 2010 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

so the one you are referencing...

said 8:10 am then? That’s possible since the initial thought was the flight was delayed due to weather around KC.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...

Yeah the one I’m tracking said 8:10. I’m not 100% sure its the right jet because I just got the info off another message board. But looking at its route, I’d say it was. Today it flew out of OKC and landed in Austin, Lubbock, and College Station today. It was supposed to leave for KC at 8:10PM but then I never found anything about it taking off and saw they defiled a flight plan. But KAKE news here in Wichita said that Lew is at KCI right now meeting with em. So I have no clue.

by hawkinwihita on Jun 13, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant refiled a flight plan. The one that said its taking off in the morning.

by hawkinwihita on Jun 13, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

New take

I’ve read that the Big 12 is putting together a TV package to try and keep the league together as a ten piece for now. Apparently gives the Big 12 schools 17 million a piece (at least) dollar wise from the deal.

Guess it all comes down to Texas here. Also wonder if the fates of KU and TAMU are already sealed?

Maybe TAMU has an SEC offer and KU a Pac 10 offer and both are waiting to see if Texas stays with the Big 12 or bolts for the Pac 10 before acting. In the end you’d think both schools would stay in the Big 12 even if it is a ten piece conference.

Wouldn’t it be funny if we were the Big 12 with 10 teams and the Big 10 has 12 teams…

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's another theory

What if this new jockeying for KU to the Pac-11* is in response to Texas/A&M/etc. position for trying to keep the current Big 12 10 intact because of this new proposed TV deal? Is the Pac-11* conference just trying to steal at least one more BCS level team to make 12 teams instead of just adding Utah? Is that the reasoning for the new flight to KC?

It’s just a theory, and it’s probably wrong…

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by mystman995 on Jun 13, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine they'd jump...

all the way over to KU if they were adding just one more. Utah would make too much sense if that was the case.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well now we know what it takes those chumps to do something.

Maybe next time we want a better TV contract we can lose two schools and threaten to dissolve the rest of the league again. And we’d be back to the Big 8!

Common sense says there’s just no chance this is a good deal, like the desperate promises of your ex to be a better person just as you’re about to step out the door, car keys in hand…

by sax solo on Jun 14, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

if it was up to me

KU would be GONE…this is like having a serious heart attack where the EMTs bring you back to life…this conference has always been every team looking out for themselves, and now is the time to move and get more stability in a league where you’re more of an equal partner than an afterthought.

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 13, 2010 11:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree

As much as I would hate to leave KSU and ISU in this mess that they had no control over, it is dog eat dog now, and we have take this opportunity while it is still open.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

problem is

we’ve constantly been pledging our allegiance to the B12, because of the uncertainty of where we would end up w/ out it. I agree with two things right now:

1. we need to keep an eye out/options open/talks going
2. the Big 12 could work with 10 members, at least as well as it worked in the past

So far it sounds like we’ve followed through with actions that support both- if Lew is campaigning at all like he did for the Orange Bowl, I’m confident we’ll land somewhere solid.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 14, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

UPDATE #2: The Houston Chronicle now also reporting that A&M is likely SEC bound.

Go A&M! Go! Go!

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 11:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like the plane didn't come in tonight

But Tait said it may have gone to Wichita or Topekie instead.

I’m in OP right meow and it is storming like no one’s business so its very possible the plane decided to have a go at it in the morning or went where the cell is not.

I’m listening to the Turtles’ Tired of Waiting for you right now.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 14, 2010 12:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh wait that was the Kinks.

My bad

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 14, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

seconded by SbBrooks

he’s reporting from KCI and says there’s no sign. With the TX board of regents meeting on Tuesday, there’s probably no big rush in going anywhere tonight.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 14, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially with the storms currently going on in the Kansas/KC area.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 14, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it over yet?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk

by Warden11 on Jun 14, 2010 7:08 AM CDT reply actions  

far from it ; )

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 14, 2010 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry...

I think I gave some bad info. I checked to see about the flight again and can’t find anything on it or any departure plans. Its saying its still in Austin though. If you wanna check on what I’ve been, use either flightwise.com or flightaware.com. The tail number that I was told Larry Scott is on is N228PK. I’m not 100% sure its the right plane because I got the info off another message board. The plane has made all the right stops though and is registered to an old Oregon AD. Hopefully this helps everyone out on this.

by hawkinwihita on Jun 14, 2010 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

nope...

that is the right plane. Same one I was tracking.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 14, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Read smewhere the meeting was scheduled fo this afternoon in Lawrence

can’t remember where I read it, so take it with a grain of salt. Also read that Scott was flumoxed/chagrined that people were tracking his movements using the tail number of the plane.

by bt01 on Jun 14, 2010 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

haha

apparently he hasn’t been paying attention to recent similar situations.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 14, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

breaking from 810

chances are increasing that the Big XII may stay together…Longhorns supposedly committed to Big XII existence…A&M could throw a wrench into all that…agreement in principle to keep Big XII together…possibly more revenue-sharing disparity than before.

personally, i don’t like it. i would still go to the PAC-10 if I had my choice…does anyone think that Mizzou won’t jump to the BigTen as soon as they get a chance? this league is not viable long term UNLESS they expand to at least 12 and possibly more teams.

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 14, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions  

more

radio guy from college station on…pretty much contradicts all that keitzman just said…says that a&m wants to go to the SEC…doesn’t have any faith in beebe to keep it together.

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 14, 2010 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I think Keitzmann's lack of inside knowledge has been well documented

from all that I’m seeing/hearing, A&M now holds the key to the conference.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 14, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

what are you talking about!?!?!??

I go to Kietzman for all my insider knowledge concerning and promoting his favorite university, KU just a bit of sarcasm. When I think of a self-promoting, biased member of the media, KK immediately comes to mind.

by P. J. Karasek on Jun 14, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

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