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Texas A&M to the SEC?

All indicators point to Texas, Texas Tech, OSU and OU heading to the Pac 10 next week.  The lone holdout appears to be Texas A&M who seems far more interested in breaking away from Texas and heading to the SEC, 

This appears to be the best opportunity for the Jayhawks as some reports are beginning to surfacing linking the final spot to either Kansas or A&M and not Utah for the final spot.  Could be good news.  Guess we'll see.

UPDATE #1:  Mentioned a little bit already, but more A&M to SEC talk and now the report is coming from this Chip Brown feller that everyone seems to have appointed the king of Texas insider knowledge.  He's been on target so far so I guess we'll see.

The negative to this is that the Utah folks now seem pretty positive that they are the ones getting that last Pac 10 invite taking the conference to 16. 

With the Pac 10 at 16 do other dominoes start to fall?  Does the SEC become an option?  Does the Big 10 go East and go bigger? Or are we destined for the Mountain West no matter how things shake out?

UPDATE #2: Here's an article from Chip Brown late yesterday.  A little more detail on the talks between the SEC and A&M.  Also a quick snippet about Kansas being slightly ahead of Utah in the Pac10 talks.

UPDATE #3: Fairly big news out there as the Aggies rivals site and the man, the myth, the legend Chip Brown are both reporting that A&M to the SEC is now a done deal.  It's going to be a VERY interesting week and Kansas would now appear to be in the discussion with a few of these scenario's finally.

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Its just nice

to finally be a part of the rumors. Everyone commenting seems to want us more than A&M too.

by Walshdollar on Jun 12, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Not a huge fan of our position,

we’re now counting on A&M to separate from Texas and join the SEC on their own?

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by Warden11 on Jun 12, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah...

probably a bit of a longshot…but at least it’s hope.

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by Owen on Jun 12, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

mountain west now targeting kansas, kansas state and mizz

by flesh23 on Jun 12, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Everything on ESPN says we could join the MWC

At this point, seems like we HAVE to either land in the Pac 16 or SEC, or we will be joining the rest of the Big 12 schools minus Baylor in the MVC.

Getting Mizzou would be a HUGE get for the MVC, even if they don’t get us. That boosts their football big time

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 12, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Self said

He feels a lot better about the situation than he did Thursday and we will be in a BCS conference.

I just hope that doesn’t mean the MVC getting BCS status…

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 12, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

i would echo those sentiments to a point

my hope is that we end up in the PAC-Integer; however-if we were somehow able to take Missouri, KSU, Baylor, ISU and add TCU, BYU, Utah, Louisville, and Cincinnati that could be the makings of an attractive conference.

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 12, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is getting ridiculous

We’re going onto our third major thread on this whole thing. The only thing that would make this crazier is if we had a door to have a constant video feed of as we await the fate of college athletics.

Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...

by tequilaprophet on Jun 12, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

HAHA

Just saw this. The Door knows all!

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can Kansas get away from Kansas State?

I have heard that state regents would be apposed to this.

If you can then you would be #1 to replace A&M if they go East. If not then Utah takes your place.

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by utesfan100 on Jun 12, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes

The KS Board of Regents said they were not tied together, although they would like to see them stay together.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

You beat me to it mike,

we are not legally bound in any way to K-State. Kansas Board of Regents wants us to stay together because it’s the “right thing to do” but we do not have to listen. If Pac 10 wants us, we can split.

by trueKUblue on Jun 12, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Supposedly

Josh Heupel told a crowd at some fundraiser thing that OU is going to the SEC

no idea what to believe

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by fetch9 on Jun 12, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

If true.

Looks like KU is going to the Pac 16. Who knows at this point though.

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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least

we are hearing some good rumors about KU now. Yesterday it was pretty much a sure thing that we were getting left out.

by trueKUblue on Jun 12, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still think

A&M is going to end up in the PAC with all the rest- BUT, at this point, does the PAC have to take everyone? Why couldn’t they pick and choose- say, Texas, Oklahoma, OSU, KU?

If the Texas legislature can’t force them to take Baylor, what gives them any more sway in forcing Tech upon the PAC? (more representation? or the fact that it’s a state school?)

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

They've been watching KU this whole time.

That doesn’t mean we are in any way interested. Though I have heard from some K-State fans that their AD went to a MWC meeting a couple of days ago.

by trueKUblue on Jun 12, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the Mountain West is a bad option at all

You could say that several of the teams in that conference are better than the Big XII North teams and Baylor, possibly even OSU, Tech, and A&M – Utah, TCU, BYU, Boise State. The media markets are better than in the Big XII (Salt Lake City, Dallas, Las Vegas, KC if you have us) meaning there’s more long-term viability there. They add us, and K-State, and they’d have a better conference than the PAC does currently (see: PAC-10 being the MWC’s dog in football the last three years), so I don’t think it’d be that bad at all

by 2.1 seconds left on Jun 12, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

It's not that bad...

in football. Basketball would be horrible in the MWC though. We just wouldn’t fit. And if we land there you can probably say goodbye to Bill Self.

by MitchumMan on Jun 12, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree... KU would elevate the other basketball programs.

In regards to basketball… KU makes the conference not the other way around.

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by averagegatsby on Jun 12, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction

KU and K-State would elevate the other basketball programs. :)

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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

K-State

I hear they have a lovely elite 8 DVD. Congrats on that.

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by chicks_love_chiefs on Jun 12, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta start

somewhere… that’s how I choose to look at it. :-D

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by VegasCat07 on Jun 13, 2010 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think we lose Bill Self no matter what

First, he’s stated this is his dream job because of the tradition, not the conference. Second, Memphis has already shown that you can be elite without major conference affiliation. Finally, UNLV, BYU, San Diego State, and New Mexico form a pretty good basketball core to add KU, KSU, and possibly MU to. And if its seen lacking, you can make up for it with high profile non-con games.

by 2.1 seconds left on Jun 13, 2010 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

no, it's bad

the problem with the MWC isn’t the quality of the teams it’s the lack of a strong media presence. This whole situation is because of money, the MWC just isn’t going to command the media money that other BCS conferences will. There isn’t enough television sets. It’s bad….

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by labbadabba on Jun 12, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s bad, because the MWC would not pay immediately. However, with a commitment to the BCS and adding BSU, ISU, KSU, KU, and Missouri to their current conference in 2011 or 2012, their will need to be someone to take the Big XII’s automatic bid. A vastly improved MWC conference with already good teams, and the addition of 5 other BCS worthly programs, the MWC should have no problem getting a huge TV contract, and the Big XII’s automatic bid. Not the best option, but it can realistically work.

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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

why would they get a huge deal?

outside of Dallas would there be ANY top-30 markets? StL? Denver? Salt Lake? Maybe if their regional teams join…. Even still, the tv sets will pale in comparison to the Big-integer, the Pac-whatever and the ACC and SEC, and what’s left of the Big East. We’ll maybe rival the MAC in media coverage….

think there’s a bias against the midwest? It’s even stranger against the mountain states.

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by labbadabba on Jun 12, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who ever said that the MWC would get a deal like the Pac 1x, Big 1x, or SEC?

No, it wouldn’t. The MWC would be looking a huge TV deal that would make them relevant enough to be a BCS Conference. Of course it would fail in comparisons to the Pac 1x, Big 1x, or SEC.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would still rather be in the MWC as well

than the Big East, because let’s face it- the Big East’s days are numbered. Out of all the conferences in play here, the Big 12 and Big East have the most to lose, and the loosest grips on them. Mountain West would lose, at most, Utah.

IF Missouri doesn’t go to the Big 10, the top basketball powers could be KU, MU, KState, UNLV and BYU. The football powers could be Boise St., BYU, (Utah?), TCU, KState, KU, and MU. I would say this is pretty close to equal the Big 12.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I would rather be in the MWC than the Big East too,

however, I would much rather land in the Pac-16 or SEC which are becoming more and more viable as the reports are surfacing. OU will not leave Texas that’s just rediculous, too much money to be made there. Where ever A&M lands, we may get their other invite. SEC could add KU and MU to add up and coming football programs, big T.V. markets and a hated rivalry. Not to mention a super power in basketball. And the Pac-16 is making it clear that if A&M leaves, KU is their next option. This isn’t a perfect situation for KU, but at least it’s looking better than yesterday.

by trueKUblue on Jun 12, 2010 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah, was saying that yesterday

While most of this is dictated by football, the SEC is already set in that department. Why not try and corner the market in basketball as well by adding KU?
Our football wouldn’t threaten their football powers (unlike Texas vs USC or Nebraska vs Ohio St.)
and they’d add a new market.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Big 12 dissolves...

won’t there be a spot open in the BCS for a new conference to step into? If so, that conference would have to be the MWC, which was already on the verge of BCS-dom. If you add KU, KState, Boise State and Mizzou, then it would have to be included in the BCS. Maybe that’s what Self was getting at when he guaranteed membership in a BCS conference?

by NoCoHawk on Jun 12, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's possible, but

PAC is going to fight tooth and nail for the Big 12’s BCS spot. And they have more ammo.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

they already have a BCS spot

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by fetch9 on Jun 12, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he meant

the Pac10 would receive 2 automatic BCS bids…

by MitchumMan on Jun 12, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure I like that idea.

If the Pac 1x has two teams good enough to make the BCS, than one should get the automatic, and the other an at large. If a team like K-State were to be kicked into the Conference USA, and became a dominant force in football again, no sure I would like the idea of punishing them just because they are in the CUSA. Of course, this is college football, the great teams from the mid major conferences are always getting pushed out the BCS bowl games.

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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Texas A&M to the SEC makes a lot of since.

It just fits. All of the other moves don’t sound right. Texas in the Pacific Conference? KU in the PAC? The only reason is money it that just feels kind of dirty. I really would prefer to follow Texas A&M to the SEC and start a yearly rivalry with Kentucky. KU could really use that to push up the profile of our basketball program to another level. UNC v. Duke is must see tv everytime it happens. KU-MU?? Well, we care about it, but nobody outside of KC cares about that game because MU isn’t relevant. KU v. UK would be big time.

If we go to the PAC 10 . . . we might not loss any games for a couple of years. The PAC 10 can’t recruit anybody right now. This last year in recruiting I think 2 out of the top 50 recruits went to play in the PAC 10. Our dominance there would be even more pronounced than it is in the Big 12.

by Chyladin on Jun 12, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll give Colorado a pass since they were a minor player

But Nebraska’s move was dirty- even if it was the right move.

According to them, the motivation for leaving was fear of being left out in the changing landscape- yet they had no fear of going out alone without a Big Ten invitation.

They had assurances from the other Big 12 schools that if they stayed, even if Colorado left, the league would try to make things work. But Nebraska never liked the way the league worked anyway (even though they were one of the major beneficiaries). They knew that if they left, it would hurt Texas, either by saddling it with the carcass of the B12, or making it take a backseat in the PAC. Which in turn, relegated all the other B12 members to bystanders trying to jump on whatever bandwagon they can find.

Like I said- I don’t begrudge them for doing what will probably end up being best for their university and community. But the way it happened (specifically the ensuing hand-wringing) infuriates me, and I consider it dirty.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I view the CU as dirty because it seemed like they and the Pac 10 . . .

. . . wanted to stick it to Texas. Texas didn’t want that. Kudos to Colorado for making it happen.

by Chyladin on Jun 12, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pac-10 had eyed Colorado for years

and the league moved pre-emptively because they didn’t want to be strong armed by Texas over Baylor. Now Larry Scott can say, “Sorry, DeLoss, we only have five spots so decide who is coming with you and get back to us”

And what happened? Baylor got left by the side of the road.

by BillyZoom on Jun 12, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you were in the Pac,

would you rather have CU or Baylor? After all the talk of Baylor being one of the 5 coming from the Big ex-12 to the Pac ex-10, I’m sure as hell happier to have CU, and so are 95%+ of the fans on your sister site bruinsnation.com.

by KSBruin on Jun 12, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

baylor went to the elite 8 this year

colorado’s last 2 ncaa tournament appearance were 2003, 1997, and 1969. i know football is the only thing that seems to matter to the pac-10, but for my money i’d rather play baylor any day

by PhillyJayhawk on Jun 13, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe this was what all that Harbaugh chatter was about last spring?

by PDXJayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot the sarcasm font

My ham-handed approach at humor was regarding all of the chatter during the football coaching search that Harbaugh was going to leave Stanford to KU….

….but MAYBE he was really just rallying the Pac-10 to ask KU to join.

by PDXJayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares about the Boofaloes.

Agree on Colorado — couldn’t care less that they left since the league could easily replace them. My new favorite #2 team this fall will be whoever is playing Nebraska.

by SpringsJayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

welcome to the site

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by Owen on Jun 12, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perfect timing for CU

There good teams in the 80’s and 90’s were with SoCal kids. With the hammer being dropped on USC and UCLA losing its FB tradition they might be able to get better players. They still have a strong recruiting presence in the OC. They love the mountains.

by ocjhawk on Jun 12, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want SEC...

I laughed thinking it was stupid when I first heard it. But the more and more I think about it, athletic wise, I think it’s the best choice for us. Football, I don’t see us being any different then in the Big 12. There are a lot of SEC teams we can beat. I would say we would be middle of the road SEC. That’s fine with me. Getting into the SEC alone should help with recruiting. Our staff is already connected in the region. Another thing is im looking forward to playing in places that football is life. I have a buddy thats an LSU fan and from there. He tells me their football tailgating stories and it makes me jealous. I told him, first time KU plays at Tiger Stadium, we’re goin. And basketball like said repeatedly, KU/UK would be HUGE. It would be us and UK for the title every year, but I think that would be a step up from Big 12 in the aspect of someone competing year in and out with us. Any where we go basketball won’t be an issue for us.

Don’t get me wrong though, if the PAC-whatever comes knocking, jump on it. We CAN’T be left in the dust. And I have had a great feeling that we won’t.

by hawkinwihita on Jun 12, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

ha ha

100% agree. Wish they would say something today

by hawkinwihita on Jun 12, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

with you 100%

That annual KU-UK game would be EPIC; it would guarantee the prime ESPN/CBS slot, on every single TV set in the country. It would be the UNC-Duke for the rest of the country.

Well, at least until UK gets probation and Calipari leaves. But then we'll be able to overtake them in all-time wins.

Is there any chance that the SEC could poach UNC, as well?

by PDXJayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some updates on ESPN

-SEC talking to Texas and OU, with A&M as a backup plan
-SEC raiding ACC not in the conference plans right now
-dismissed rumors of taking KU, acknowledged KU’s interest in that happening
-UT wants to keep rivalry with A&M, exploring “all options”
-Oklahoma may be pushing hard to keep the Big12 together

First article
Second

Is it possible this could all be up to A&M now?

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Greed

This whole thing is somewhat revolting to me. College athletics are supposed to be pure and amateur, this whole thing is just proving it’s about money. I don’t want to sound naive but the people pulling these conferences apart have shown they don’t care at all about the game itself. It would be a shame if one of the top basketball programs in the country got stuck playing in a lower tier conference because of football

by axbmoore28 on Jun 12, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

MWC + Independent

I’m afraid the only option that may be open to us is going to be the MWC. Can KU survive as an independent in basketball? Not ideal, but I don’t see any other way.

by SpringsJayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

No.

If we went separate conferences we’d prolly go Big East BBall and MWC for Football

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by labbadabba on Jun 12, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

KU needs to ditch the Big 12

Even if Texas and OU decide to keep the Big 12 as it is and maybe add a 2 schools, I think we want out at this point. The conference will never be stable and the Pac 10 and everyone else will be trying to poach the conference again and again and again. Texas will be running around acting like the saved all of our asses, I just dont need that crap from someone who’s mascot is a sterilized bull. My vote if I had one and we got a good offer to leave is take it and don’t look back at this point.

by Phogman on Jun 12, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

check out theshiver.com

matt scott has some inside and seems pretty credible… has an update about us to pac 10 seems to be pickin up steam…

by rockchalks7 on Jun 12, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you guys would fit well in the Pac-16

But it would mean being relegated to Texas’ circle like Oklahoma and oSu have been. Without Mizzou to kick around, Kansas would be the next best target.

by Gaknar on Jun 12, 2010 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

?????????

There are so many grammatical and logical errors in your previous comments, I don’t know what you are talking about or how to respond. This could only come from the mind of a Missouri fan . . .

by Chyladin on Jun 12, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

OrangeBloods

According to Chip Brown, A&M has the votes to joint he SEC and could announce as soon as next week.

Hello, PAC-10, how you doin? Lookin’ pretty good these days…have you lost weight? You know, I been thinkin’….I really think that you and me, we ought to give this relationship thing a go. You’ve got those killer UCLA (basketball) curves; I have a top 3 basketball program. Plus, you’re hangin’ out with all my friends, Texas, Oklahoma, those guys, but none of them have the history that I do.

by PDXJayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

the guy who runs the Utah Rivals site just tweeted...

…that Texas A&M is out of Pac-10 expansion talks and Utah is in. He’s saying Monday is going to be a huge day for the University of Utah. fwiw…

by BillyZoom on Jun 12, 2010 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

not cool, yo

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by labbadabba on Jun 12, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all.

That was supposed to KU’s route.

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by Warden11 on Jun 12, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Source?

Someone other than an Utah fan would be nice.

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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are so many sources and so many rumors . . .

. . . but I thought that I remember hearing that Boise St. only agreed to join the MWC because they promised that none of the teams already in the MWC would leave. Anybody else remember hearing that?

by Chyladin on Jun 13, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thought so

But it is starting to sound like there was no such agreement.

http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15285501

I might of passed something, which I hope I did.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only problem I see with Utah being so confident that they are going to the Pac 16.

Missouri thought not too long ago that they were the desirable pick to go to the Big 10, and it seemed like Baylor was going to the Pac 16 just one week ago.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed...

it’s a very fluid situation. Regardless it’s sounding more and more like the Texas dominoes fall next week, both UT and A&M. After that we might have an opportunity to breath and see where we fit.

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by Owen on Jun 12, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Pac 10 would be making such a collossal mistake taking Utah

I mean its freaking Utah. I don’t want to hear numbers about Salt Lake City and how decent they’ve been in football lately.

Its freaking UTAH.

Do the right thing Pac 10. You have a growing football program who has the AD investing heavily in it, sold out the games last year. Good academics.

A HUGE alumni base. We are extremely profitable and will be even more so now that we aren’t losing money from ticket bullshit.

Oh did I mention we have one of the greatest basketball programs of all time and a dominant team of late (something the Pac 10 is really lacking at the moment).

Do the right thing Pac 10. Kansas fell into your lap and you have a chance to snatch us. Don’t be stupid and take freaking Utah

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by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I just noticed the deputy commish of the Pac 10 is none other than......

Kevin Weiberg, former commish of the Big 12. He was hired in February of this year.

“As the commish said at the time of his hiring, “Kevin, with his deep intercollegiate experience, is a perfect complement to my background,” said Scott, who previously was CEO of the Women’s Tennis Association.

Two topics that no doubt will occupy some of Weiberg’s time: the possibility of conference expansion and a potential league TV network."

Definitely did not take our former commish long to raid his former conference. The Pac 10 has be planning this for a while now while we have Beebe, a lame duck.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/collegesports/2011019280_pac09.html

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by KRichards on Jun 13, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

While I don't want to throw around accusations

I keep seeing notes in various articles about how Weiberg helped the Big 10 start its network… which began while he would have been at the Big 12. I’m curious to see how that happened.

And there was a note of caution in the KC Star regarding Weiberg’s involvement in the Big 12 and future PAC- namely that when he left the Big 12, one of his main worries was the unchecked power of Texas.

by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 13, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not a Weiberg fan.

 But in his defense, the network was set up for a year before he got there. I think his helping get it started was negotiating cable contracts and reorganizing and/or improving the logistics of it.

The sad part is that he thought it was a better job than being commissioner of a conference.

by Chyladin on Jun 13, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

That might have been the main problem

Texas has too much control and just like Beebe has found out, the Big 12 commisioner is really just a pawn for UT. Speculating but Weiberg probably saw this and it is why he left to greener pastures.

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by KRichards on Jun 13, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

a "reformulated" Big XII (assuming the South goes to the PAC-10

if we take the cream of the MWC crop and add Louisville, Memphis, Cincinnati, and even Houston, could be a decent league in football, baseball, and basketball, plus the geography would not be terrible.

one added benefit of keeping the Big XII name and folding those teams in could be that the headquarters and the conference tournament/championship games could come back to KC.

the only concern I have is how the academics at some of the schools match up with ours (and mizzou’s)…i really don’t know how good or bad memphis, cincinnati, louisville, houston are in academics.

BOOM YOSTED!

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 13, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

like

we need houston’s tv sets….

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by labbadabba on Jun 13, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

RT @ChipBrownOB Texas A&M turned down invite to join P10 in mtg today with P10’s Larry Scott and Kevin Weiberg, a Big 12 AD confirms.

I hope this means KU can get an invite over Utah now.

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by mstreeter06 on Jun 13, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather see the Big 12 saved

But after all this I just don’t know how that is possible.

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by mstreeter06 on Jun 13, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Orginially hoped so

But just have a feeling that we will be dealing with the same problem in a couple of years if we stay together. We would just be delaying the eventual collaspe.

R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.

by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 13, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry…typos on the Blackberry. Hoping this doesn’t mean the Big 12 is “saved” since that would mean KU will be lapdog to Texas and Oklahoma schools indefinitely, particularly true if TCU joins.

by NoCoHawk on Jun 13, 2010 4:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If B12 is saved I hope we bring in Memphis

Another BB school with a FB team we should normally beat. Plus the added bonus of the QB’s dad being CEO of FEDEX and offering 10 Million $ a year to a BCS conference that will take them.

by ocjhawk on Jun 13, 2010 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I think the post above

Would be an acceptable option to try to salvage a Big 12 if Texas and the South leave. Add Memphis, Louisville, Houston, Cincinnati, and I would add TCU to that mix. I don’t think this will end up happening. I think the Pac 16, SEC, Big East, or sadly the MWC are the options most likely to happen.

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by mstreeter06 on Jun 13, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

FedEx Offer

Is anyone else appalled at this? If I was a shareholder, I would be furious that the CEO is openly using corporate funds to try and bribe athletic departments to get his son better competiton/more exposure.

I’m sure if push came to shove he could argue that those are well-spent advertising dollars and yadda yadda yadda. But this is probably the most unseemly thing I’ve seen throughout this whole process. Even if his son wasn’t at Memphis, the whole idea of trying to buy your way into the BCS really bothers me (especially at a third tier school like Memphis, where $10MM could really help academics).

Not really sure why anything bothers me at this point. Maybe Phil Anschutz is telling the Pac that he can have David Beckham do ads for the conference if they add KU? Or at least let them use all of AEG’s arenas for free…

You can never have too much talent.

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 13, 2010 11:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agree to a point

But high profile athletic programs greatly effect the quality even if through quantity of students at a school. Most people want to follow and be a part of a program they can follow. My wife went to MIT and my parents Emporia State and I would say they are maybe bigger fans of KU than I am. FedEx is based in Memphis and having astrong Memphis to recruit from and also to have the community as a fanbase is politically reasonable for a mojor local employer. Just like the luck of Oregon having Phil Knight and Nike. Wihout Knight Oregon would be another second tier program.

by ocjhawk on Jun 14, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

If KU does jump ship

I really hope KU and KSU play in the non con for hoops (not football since we already will play Mizzou in KC thats enough tough games for me haha).

Perhaps they could play at the Sprint Center or just rotate home courts. But the basketball programs and games lately are too good to stop, IMHO

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

LJW is reporting

Pac 10 Commisioner is on his way to KC.

by Phogman on Jun 13, 2010 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Jun 13, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

plane is scheduled from Austin to KC...

wow…very exciting but still uncertain.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Jun 13, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word is......

Out of Palo Alto that Stanford is pulling hard to get the Hawks into the expansion picture. I hope there is some truth to that.

by Vshel58 on Jun 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

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