Big 10, Pac 10 Realigment Part II
by Owen on Jun 11, 2010 8:29 AM CDT
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PrintAs many have pointed out and Chyladin has now posted in a fanshot, the Colorado to the Pac10 is now considered a done deal. Chyladin's Fanshot,
With that in mind Kansas fans continue to watch anxiously and I think that things start to move quickly here if they are indeed going to blow up. The last thread was getting a little lengthy so it seems appropriate to open up a new one and continue the ongoing conversation as we wait to see the fallout.
UPDATE #1: As many have pointed out. Reports now picking up some momentum that Oklahoma State will be the next to announce and the rest of the South minus Baylor will be following soon.
UPDATE #2: Two more unsubstantiated rumors to get your day going. Reports on an Oklahoma City television station that OU is trying to make a move to the SEC to go along with the already many reports that A&M might prefer the SEC to the Pac10. Good news for us, but I think the remnants of the Big 12 have to be attractive enough that the Pac10 wants to continue greater expansion in order to help us. Some of the talk has centered around Kansas or Utah being the sixth and final invite in this scenario.
And on a side not, if you get a chance to listen to coach Self's presser from last night. It should help talk you off the ledge.
ESPN Reporting that Boise State will join the Mountain West. Not a huge domino but interesting considering the reason they didn't originally invite Boise State was the fact that the MWC wanted to see how things panned out in the Big 12.
Hopefully this means that we and other potential remnants of the Big 12 have a better fate in the works.
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well here's hoping...
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53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Even if they aren't in our conference
They still play in Allen Fieldhouse West
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 10, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Things are happening so fast that it all feels surreal.
Any chance we’ll wake up tomorrow and everything will be back to normal? I think this is just a dream.
I'm no longer worried
Lew has been cleared of any wrongdoing by KU’s internal investigation.
He’s now about to melt everyone’s faces off if that’s what it takes to get us in a good situation.
Any academic or athletic administrator anywhere with some skeletons in their closet is crapping their pants right now.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 10, 2010 11:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yep. Really like that.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Lew and Little-Gray both have East Coast roots
Could really hurt us in this thing
Lew's making a big pitcher of Limonade for the Jayhawk Nation
Kansas to the Big 10/11? Okay I know there has been alot of speculation about where we will end up. But lets give this a thought?
Could Lew be working to get us into the Big 10/11 with Neb and ND to make it a 14 team conference?
1. Missouri suddenly has seemed to lost all its phone numbers for the Big 10/11 and Im pretty sure they don’t have Missouri’s.
2. Nebraska has always been much closer to us than Missouri and would probably prefer us over Missouri if there was to be 2 Big 12 schools.
3. We help with the KC tv market better than Missouri, plus they already have St. Louis tv market with Illinois.
4. Our Medical and Law schools are well respected.
5. Lew is a shrewed man, and I’m sure if he managed to screw MU once he can do it again.
6. We have huge potential growth in football, remember we just updated our facilites to on par with any in the country.
7. We give the conference a major boost in B-Ball and B-Ball revenue and remember this is about money, they are truely weak in B-Ball except for 1 or 2 schools. So revenue will increase because of that.
8. We have a huge and very loyal fan base. I live in Illinois and I bump into KU people all the time.
9. Lew screwed Missouri once and can do it again.
10. We look like the good guy right now, and appear to be being forced to find a new home so when we decouple from K-state, it will be because we have too not because we want too.
If this senario could even be partially true, then events would have to unfold about how they have so far. If KU would happen to be in discussion with anyone in the Big 10/11 it would have to be very quiet until after NU, CU and the Texas senario’s playout. Thats the only way we could jump to the New Big 14 which would require us to decouple from K-state. The KBOR has to see this as the only way to keep one of the Kansas Schools in a real BCS conference.
So do you think Lew has stolen MU’s Wonka Bar?
by Phogman on Jun 10, 2010 9:44 AM PDT
Holy shit
You and I posted the same thing about going to the Big 10 via Nebraska at the exact same time.
Thats scary
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by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
4. Our Medical and Law schools are well respected.
The law school must have some pretty lax admission standards……..
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Obviously, I'm a Mizzou fan, so I can only read with my eyes, but...
…that seems ludicrous. Even with geographic considerations apparently going out the window, I find it very hard to believe that the Big 10 would pass up the St. Louis media market, go around Missouri and pick up Kansas.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Why?
They can already have the Saint Louis market if they want. U of Illinois. And they get the KC market.
Don’t count out Lew Perkins. He strait up stole the Orange Bowl from Mizzou and he might have one last hurrah in him
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember, though,
BTN gets $.10 per subscriber in states in which there is no Big 10 school. In states where there is a Big 10 school, BTN gets $.70 per subscriber. They may be on in St. Louis, but they’re not making as much as they would if Mizzou were in the Big 10.
When is Late Night?
A good chunk of St. Louis is in Illinois...
Its kind of like Kansas City.
Thats the state of Missouri for you. It sucks so bad the two major cities in it are trying as hard as they can to get into other states
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you ever been to East Saint Louis?
Suffice to say, that’s not the affluent part of town.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
it used to be...
back when it was all run by the mob…
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That's what this country needs:
more mafia-run towns. It’s a damn shame what the government is doing to Big Organized Crime! :)
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You sound like Michelle Bachman
you and your gangster govt…
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We have a rule at RMN: no politics.
And I am going to abide by that rule over here at RCT despite you teeing that up for me.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Rules at RCT are there ain't no rules
dig
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by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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I would
Don’t disagree or I’ll take your Warden 11 hat away
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by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
St. Louis is a Mizzou town.
Pretty much anybody will tell you that. If the Big 10 “can already have the Saint Louis market if they want,” why don’t they have it?
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
But NU hates MU like KU hates MU
NU may be controlling some of this. I’m pretty sure they dont care for MU so if the Big 10/11 wants them then they might have to take someone from the Big 12 that NU wants. My bet on that would be KU. So while we might be hateing on NU right now they may have kicked MU out of Big 10/11 conderation and they maybe working behind the scene trying to bring in somone else. And that someone else might be us.
Lincoln has been pretty quite even though everyone knows they are leaving. To add to this Osborne wastnt big on the move, and this would be a way to give him a natural ally and keep him happy.
keep in mind too
Our new football coach is a very close friend to Tom Osborne. I’m not saying that it’s a done deal by any means, but perhaps an interesting thing to think about if Nebraska is indeed thinking about pulling in another (former) conference team.
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 10, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
My only problem (ok, one of a many) with this thinking is accepting that Nebraska has any pull in the Big 10 right now.
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I don't get why they have any pull at all....anywhere.
Their football team isn’t in a big market and they aren’t anywhere near a powerhouse anymore. They’ve been mediocre in a pretty ho-hum Big 12 North for several years. The hell is big draw for Nebraska?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jun 10, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You are preaching to the choir.
I don’t understand it.
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--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Of course,
I’ve thought that about 2/3’s of the Big10 teams. Yet here we are.
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Yeeeeah.
Very, very true. Nebraska vs. Michigan would’ve been awesome 15 years ago. Now…I think I’ll watch soccer.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jun 10, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Like it or not
although Nebraska may have lost some thunder in recent years, their brand did not suffer. They basically have their own T.V. deal already so those viewers just shift to the Big whatever network and there you have it. Their football is as nationwide as our basketball, but they fill an 80 thousand + stadium every home game whereas we fill a 16 thousand plus fieldhouse every homegame…big difference. Not to mention they are the ONLY team in Nebraska, they are the pro team, the college team, and the only home team.
very true
A very valid point, I suppose it all depends on if the Big 10/12 is still looking to expand, and if so, already has its mind made up as to which teams it’s targeting. I won’t say that I’m in any way optimistic about this situation, but I have high hopes that Lew, now cleared of wrongdoing, goes to bat hard for the university.
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 10, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
To be honest...
…I kind of doubt that “NU hates MU” and “KU hates MU” plays more than 0.1% of a difference in a situation like this. Nebraska’s going to make the right more for Nebraska, not to spite anyone else. Same with Mizzou. Same with KU. Same with everybody.
If anything, that’s an indictment of Dan Beebe’s inability to foster goodwill among the member schools.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Are these the same eyes
that witnessed KU going to the Orange Bowl instead of Missouri? Just wondering…
Yep.
They are. Are you implying that an at-large bowl selection is comparable to conference realignment?
Because that’s a bad point. If that is, in fact, the point you’re making.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I'm just saying...
They picked KU over MU for a reason. Why do you think they would do that? TV market? Larger fan base? If those were the reasons, then it might have something to do with conference realignment. But then again, I’m not 100% sure why we were picked and you weren’t. Either way, I had a great trip to Miami that year. I’m sure you had fun in Texas though. :)
Well, I'm from Dallas, and it was a dream-come-true to watch Mizzou in the Cotton Bowl...
…but that’s beside the point. The point is that comparing an at-large bowl selection to a major conference realignment isn’t just comparing apples to oranges. It’s comparing apples to Optimus Prime.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
more like oranges to Optimus Prime
sorry…had to do it…
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by labbadabba on Jun 10, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I went to a bar in St. Louis on a couple of Saturdays this fall
and there were a hell of a lot more Buckeye fans there than Mizzou fans.
That's quite a story.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Ok guys I figured it out
We are going to the Big 10.
Delaney really wanted KU all along. But he couldn’t get to us because of the law that you can only expand to get a team that borders a Big 10 state.
Thus, the Big 10 grabs Nebraska and ignores Mizzou. Now The Big 10 network can still get the Kansas City market, can grab the St. Louis market because it already has Illinois, and KU borders the state of Nebraska.
It all makes sense now
Shit happens when you win championships
Its a much more plausable scenario
Than us going to the SEC…
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not gonna lie
If the Big 12 goes in the crapper (as seems more likely by the hour), I’d be okay ending up in the Big 10. I just don’t see it happening is all. We haven’t been on anybody’s wish list, and there’s still the K-State problem that nobody seems to want to address.
When is Late Night?
How big is MU's following in Texas? California?
These things could help us in the end…
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
That doesn't matter
The Big 10 doesn’t get 70 cents for every tv set in states that aren’t included in the Big 10. They only get 10 cents for those tv sets. So I don’t think that logic helps us. IMO
Missouri no Big 10 invite?
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/mu-no-big-10-wants-big-12-to-hang-together-28504
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It'd be huge if AandM went to the SEC
Everyone keeps saying that they won’t split with Texas but I’m not so sure. The two schools me today to talk everything over. Maybe the SEC pushed for AandM hard so they could get into Texas. AandM told Texas hey we are going, and then the two agreed to a non-con matchup every year in football?
Shit happens when you win championships
Royals Review has a discussion going on, and there are a few relative old-timers
who actually remember the Big 8, SWC, and Big 12 realignments (seems like RCT is a younger crowd). A few loud voices (not necessarily “correct” voices) are in the “less change is more likely than more change” camp.
http://www.royalsreview.com/2010/6/9/1510087/ot-big-12-go-bye-bye
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 10, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
So
Two more years and I can openly root for Kansas football. Yessssss. I know this sucks for Kansas, but it’s still all really exciting stuff.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Colorado's played their recent pile of shit into a gold mine somehow.
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It was the win over KU <3
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by A.J. Haefele on Jun 10, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Lew to Athletic Dept. "Loose lips sink ships", let me work.
Okay folks, our AD and the department have been very very quite through all this except for the required “We and K-state share the same goals and for now love each other and our marrige is as strong as Al Gores.”
Everything is too quiet at Kansas. Were not saying anything which means we are probably up to something. The only thing that has changed in the last week is the sudden loss of interest by the Big 10/11 in Missouri. Contrary to what our friend from the “show me state” wants to admit. They are in deep doo doo.
Can you imagine the phone call to Texas from MU, OMG I wish someone had the phone tapped so we could here the groveling. It would be epic Smegal, “But master Smegal meant no harm, I just wanted the fishies in the Big 10/11, Please dont hit poor Smegal, i’ll be a good hobbit.”
I think we have a plan and I think it involves Nebraska.
could it be that Mizzou is doing the same thing
and because things are so quiet on the Mizzou front that something is getting done there as well. The shoe fits on both feet…
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But Mizzou is not quiet
They have announced they dont have an invite. They have called Texas begging for forgiveness so I dont see the same situations.
Lew is not saying anything, Im going to take that as a positive sign.
That's a curator saying that.
Alden and company have been mum. Can’t say “Lew’s not saying anything, that’s awesome” and then point to a curator saying that he’s not in the know as evidence.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Plus our Chancelor openly begged for NU and MU to stay publicly
So we haven’t been mum in that aspect. I still think our Chancelor was trying to play to our alumni base and fans though that we love the Big 12 and are trying to keep it together while our AD works deals secretly. Or something.
F*ck it I don’t even know anymore haha
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by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The difference is that...
everytime Lew is quite, a deal is being made that he doesn’t plan to talk about until it’s done. I have no clue what that plan is, but that’s Lew.
Yeah.
Mizzou’s silence is as unexpected as it is baffling.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Mizzou could be pretty humbled
After campaigning so hard for the Big 10 and to possibly NOT get an invite.
Or they could be quiet because they will get an invite if Notre Dame joins the New Big 12 and they need a 14th team (although at this point it seems the Big 10 would prefer to grab an east team like Syracuse first. I also heard Maryland is in the mix?)
At this point I think MU, KU, KSU, ISU and to a lesser extent Baylor have each other on one line trying to forge a possible conference with themselves and some MVC, CUSA or WAC teams and are trying to squeeze into an already existing league on the other line
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
One thing I know for sure-
Twitter will be down multiple times today and tomorrow. World Cup+This crap = whale
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Three peat
Revolutionary War
War of 1812
Now this ( I know about the WC win over them in 1950 but this is cooler and old crap is lame).
I’m watching the game in a triangle hat and drinking Sam Adams Bastan Lagar with an American Flag. While grilling hamburgers and hot dwogs. I’m not messing around with this shit.
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by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
old crap is lame?
You just took something from the 19th and 18th centuries
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also
make sure to sing My Country Tis of Thee, cause god save the queen is stoooooooooooopid
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God attack the queen
send big dogs after her
that bite her bum
then rip her knickers off…
hmm hmm hmm hmm hm hmm….
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Well barring anything Positive happening for us........
we all could just hang around 15 years and wait for Texas to kill the Pac 10. Sorry USC and UCLA and Stanford, and all the rest of you Pac 10 schools. You guys just might be inviting the Biggest Killer Whale to ever live into your conference. Two down and more to go.
I can just see it now. Texas to Pac 10 negotiating their deal to join the Pac 10:
“We got some mighty nice offices here in Dallas, why don’t you all just mosey on down here and check them out. You know we like ya all alot but we just feel cause there is only 6 of us and 10 of you we ott to get our choice of commisioners when we make this deal.” “Now, we all realize it don’t really mean nothing but we would feel better if we have veto rights cause you just never know how things might be with ya all being kinda liberal and all.”" By the way were passing one of them there AZ laws hope that dont get your panies in a wad." Last thing is, we just want to make sure that there won’t be none of that Tofu shit in the guest locker rooms for after game meals, while oil is king, we still like our beef around here,"
by Phogman on Jun 10, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So now Okie St. is gone to Pac-10, too...
The dominoes are really starting to tumble all around us, folks. Last one hanging onto the Titanic loses.
When is Late Night?
it's tough to be the commish of a conference that doesn't exist...
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guy might as well take some time off...
get paid while you’re still employed…his conference is getting ready to walk.
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Anyone else think
That CU announcing today was done purposely to steal NU’s thunder?
Let’s remember that CU and NU have their own little rivalry going on too.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Maybe, but CU has wanted in to the Pac-10 since forever,
so they’re just trying to get it done ASAP
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 10, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah,
I think they are scared that they’d get left out so the jumped ship early just as we would have if we had an offer.
You can accept an offer
and still wait until a later date to announce it.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Colorado announced to basically screw Baylor...
Now that the Pac-10 has signed Colorado, the league can’t be strong armed by the Texas schools to take Baylor. Basically Larry Scott can say, “Sorry guys, we only have 5 spots left”
Baylor is the odd man out.
If/when KU joins
the WCAA, fetch can translate words such as, “aboot”, “eh”, and “hoser” for all of us.
just read this comment from a Mizzou fan on an ESPN board:
Basically Mizzou blew their load before it mattered. I like my fellow Missourians were POSITIVE we were going to be in the Big 10, well now were grasping for straws. The whole time we should have been elevating our peer institutions (NEB and KU) as a package deal, love it or leave it. Instead we tried to separate ourselves as a superior institution. I mean the three of us have been together since 1908. Why try and divide that? Our leaders have severely inflated opinions of themselves and our institution.
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While I don't disagree with that sentiment (that unity would be better for us in the long run)...
…that seems more emotional than rational.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
lot of emotions running right now...
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
now it's just a matter of...
convincing the Big 10 that KU + Mizzou is a better idea than Rutgers/Syracuse/Maryland or whatever.
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 10, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Which it is.
Bias and all, I’d MUCH rather be in a conference with KU than without it.
But if anyone asks, I said “screw all you guys.” :)
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--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Good luck with that.
Rutgers/Syracuse/Maryland brings in NYC, DC & Baltimore markets. KU/Mizzou brings St. Louis and KC. You do the math, folks.
When is Late Night?
This would most likely not happen in the near future.
But the Big 10 could always add Mizzu/KU/KSU (The Kansas teams are a package deal. Like it or not.), and Rutgers/Syracuse/Maryland. Making a Superconference that would even put the Pac 16 to shame. Just a bias thought, but never know. We got two years to find a new conference to call home.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
with KU, Mizzou, and KSU
the Big 10 will be super stacked in both sports.
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Im sure this has been asked and answered before
When does NE and CO’s transfers take effect? Will they redo their schedules?
Also, I heared from an unreliable source that its possible KU would move to a SEC/ACC combined conference. Its probably not true but my pants were getting tight thinking about playing and dominating Roy Boy, Rat face and Calipari all in one season
2012 is the year that all morality ends?
Really? Thought we were already to that point. :|
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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Take this link with a HUGE grain of salt
if only for the really terrible grammar in the first sentence of the 4th paragraph.
Evidently, UT and A&M are petitioning for entrance into the Big 10 and OU is asking to get into the SEC?
Personally, I don’t believe it for a second, but I figured I’d post it and see what you all think of it.
When is Late Night?
well it is...
live, late breaking and investigative…I say we run with it!!!
Plus…they said HIGH LEVEL sources. Those are better than any other sources I’ve seen.
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by Owen on Jun 10, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
seems bizarre...
to me that the Pac10 would add Okie Light and Colorado without assurances of the other 4 coming on board. I could see maybe adding CU, waiting on the others and then adding like a Utah if they didn’t come….but if Okie Light gets and accepts a bid…it would appear all but certain the rest are going.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
agreed
OSU brings even less to the table than CU. Just doesn’t make sense.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of this stuff is getting silly.
Chip Brown apparently just said on ESPN that if the Big XII had stayed together, there would have been a vote to kick Missouri out of the conference.
I mean…I don’t even know where to begin with that one. Maybe that Missouri would sue the Big XII into the Stone Age if a vote was even taken?
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--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Well...
I keep trying to get an initiative on the ballot to kick Missouri out of the union but no one seems to listen : )
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by Owen on Jun 10, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
We need to first relocate all of the Kansas City area into Kansas borders.
Than kick Missouri out. Just bribe the other 49 states, and it will be easy.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
Actually, lets just bribe 25, we could vote them out 26-24. Umm, we only need a majority right?
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by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 11, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i think that texas going to the big 10
would be a help for us…i would think that would increase our chances dramatically of getting invited to the PAC-Integer
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes - but truth be told
I’d rather be a part of the Big Integer
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idk
i thought that yesterday, but the rust belt is dying a slow death…plus, if the PAC-Integer starts it’s own TV network it would be more competitive than the Big Integer’s, no?
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Pac 10 only with the TX schools so we could still recruit
If we couldn’t recruit TX we are screwed
who knows what to think anymore?
this is all so fucking ridiculous. agree with chiefsfan90s above, things in this country seem to be going to hell in a handbasket, and this is just another indication of that…along with ballooning budget deficits, governments/schools that are broke, wall street, etc…
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's true.
Nice knowing you K-State.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Twitter is over capacity for me right now
but The Shiver just tweeted that a “source” said Lew is working KU into the Big 10, while the Pac 10 reportedly wants us.
I don’t really believe it but whatever. I’m done worrying about it. World Cup in one day baby.
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The Shiver
being an ESPN affiliate, I would tend to believe The Shiver, but again, cautiously optimistic at best
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 10, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i have ugly duckling syndrome right now
please let us really be a swan
by PhillyJayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wha...?????
how do we go from an afterthought and looking square in the face of a modified MWC to the desire of both the Big10 and Pac10? seems to good to be true.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
everything is wonderful!
(as warm urine flows down leg)
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Which was my response on Twitter
I just don’t see how we go from nobody to the belle of the ball in no time flat.
Unless, of course, KU_Lew is behind all this. Then, who knows?
When is Late Night?
he has been absent for a long time now....
tough year for the guy.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I'm just sayin'...
We’ve put up with a lot from Perkins the last 12 months or so. It would do him well to get us out of this quagmire looking and smelling better than we did before…
When is Late Night?
yes...
between this and being cleared of wrongdoing he would certainly come out a lot better. If Turner Gill could manage a successful football season he’d come off even rosier.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I wish these guys would make up their minds
I keep changing the conference logos on my goddamn KU jersey…
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
that's what I say too
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by the way...
got a link? I’d like to read about this.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Who knows anymore?
For now on, everyone is in the “Show Me the Money” Conference.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
here's the twitter
http://twitter.com/kutheshiver
obnoxious page background, unfortunately
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions
he seems skeptical at best
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
his latest post says:
“@ChipBrownOB: There’s a Kansas City TV report saying Texas and A&M to the Big Ten. That would be news to those schools.”
way to go KCTV5!
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 10, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
This sounds like BS to me too
But, how mad is Texas right now with what the Pac-10 did with Colorado? I can absolutely see Oklahoma and Texas looking else where. We’ll See.
But does Chip Brown truly know?
Like, honestly? Again, why are we taking Chip Brown’s word as gospel?
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Well,
he’s been right on an awful lot so far, but I agree with you, insofar as he’s only human and can’t possibly know EVERYTHING, so at some point, you have to take what he ways with a grain of salt…just like the rest of the reports out there.
When is Late Night?
The man said that Nebraska had decided to jump...
…while the curators were still in a closed session.
As I said on another board, I’m really not trying to discredit Chip Brown, but…he does work for a subscription site, and every third Tweet or so is about a deal to join Orangebloods.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
As much as I hate them....
Crybaby Osbourne and the rest of the bugeaters could actually save our ass in this mess.
I imagine that Osbourne would LOVE to have his best friend in Turner Gill coaching within his conference.
Perhaps they would put in a good word for us.
Perhaps I’m just delusional.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
I’m hoping for the same, so at least we’re not delusional alone
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 10, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I just can't imagine Nebraska
having any clout at this point with the rest of the Big 10. If I’m Jim Delaney, I say “thanks for your input, Coach Osborne. We’ll take your wishes under advisement,” and then tell my secretary to block all calls from Tom Osborne.
But that’s just me…
When is Late Night?
AH!
Make all the madness stop! Please just give us some OFFICIAL good news so our sports future will no longer be in limbo.
I just wish I had some clout
to start crazy rumors too.
THIS JUST IN:
Texas A&M and Juarez Tech to start an Island Pacific League with American Samoa’s Devry chapter.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI
i have a friend who is a real estate agent and he says that mike alden’s house in columbia was put on the market today.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
from AP
Las Vegas, NV (via newswire)-
Bryce Harper, recently the #1 pick in the MLB amateur draft, has agreed to become commissioner of a new conference, the “Big Midwest”. The Chiver is reporting that flagship members will be KU, MU, and Texas. Reports from highly-placed sources indicate that the University of Michigan, Ohio State University, and Alabama are among a host of teams currently applying for membership.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
I have heard from very lowly placed sources . . .
That John Wall is planning to forgo the NBA draft inorder to run the television network for the new “Big Midwest” conference.
Perkins resigning at the end of next year
wtf
why fucking announce this now….really?!!!?
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
how many years in the mwc would it take
before an announcer calls us a mid-major?
by PhillyJayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
no kidding
Hey guys! Take our school…. oh bye the way i’m leaving.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Officially over for tradition in college sports.
For now, the pros are for tradition. College is for money.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
it is all for money
fader nation is a conquered nation
Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!
CHICAGO...Where Quaterbacks' careers go to die!
That is extremely odd...
…and perhaps not coincidental.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
On the bright side -
this pretty much means he can cash in his chips and pull out all the stops. He doesn’t have to worry about burning bridges or taking some risks. This could work.
He could leverage this situation and shepherd us through the transition in time for a new AD to take over and start fresh in the Great Plains Conference.
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excuse my french
but fuck.
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This sucks, but I really think that he is still going to be in the lead on the realignment stuff.
This is more of an issue going into the future rather than right now. KU’s value isn’t tied up in Perkins. He is just the negotiator and salesperson, and a damn good professional one at that. If he has any desire to get another job after this one his handling of this for Kansas will determine if he gets the opportunity. If KU gets screwed in all this while he is in charge, he will never work in major athletics again.
that's a good point.
well, a couple of good points
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Here's my two cents Re: Perkins, fwiw
Lew’s getting old. He’s had a rough year (ticket scandal, Mangino firing, etc.). I suspect he’s hanging on this next year to make sure KU gets put somewhere good in the conference realignment chaos and leaves hoping to have cemented his legacy by then.
When is Late Night?
Have to agree, if I were Lew
Would definitely retire after all of this mess is resolved. All of this mess can’t be good for his health.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
i would agree
if he announced it later. but he announced it today. that makes me think it has to be bigger than just an old guy who wants to enjoy his golden years
by PhillyJayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Just because Keegan got the scoop
doesn’t mean Lew “announced” anything. I suspect if Perkins had his way, this would not be coming out right now.
Or, I could be completely wrong. First time for everything…
When is Late Night?
Not sure the validity of this but
RT @bobfescoe: #KU met with the #BigEast today at Lawrence Country Club
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
That would be a MAMMOTH basketball conference.
Holy crap.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
but a hella shitty football conference
especially if they get raided. I’d hate to go from one imploded conference to another one that’s teetering on the edge of oblivion.
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Sounds like that KU has talked to every single conference.
According to reports, tweets, and every other random person that wants to put their two cents in.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That is a good thing.
This is what I have wanted all along. Be proactive and find the right fit. KU isn’t chopped liver. Somebody will want us and we might as well work that to our advantage. Maybe we can get a couple of conference to bid for us. I don’t know. But be proactive.
amen, brotha
at the same time, they better be exploring options for creating a new conference as a last resort
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 10, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You know . . .
at the end of all of this, Texas might be the team that gets screwed in all of this. Just grabbing random headlines. Texas A&M and Oklahoma are talking with SEC. Nebraska goes to the Big 10. Pac 10 takes Colorado even though Texas didn’t want that. Maybe Texas is just to overbearing that people are tired of dealing with them. Wouldn’t it be funny if at the end of all of this Texas is the one left out.
Luckily for them, they could go the Notre Dame route. Just a thought.
Oh, I know.
I don’t think we will have to. I really think the Big East or ACC will make a play for us. As long as we don’t have the K-State baggage, we will find a home.
what if...
We did end up w/ the MWC or C-USA for everything BUT basketball. Be an independent in B-Ball, play who we want…
Also, there were many reports about Texas wanting to start their own network, maybe they end up going independent and doing that.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Not good enough.
if that happens then KU will be back to where they were pre-Lew and Mangino, the B-Ball program will be pulling the weight. The great thing about KU right now is that the football program is pulling its own weight and then some. Now, KU has two sports feeding money into the athletics program. That all goes away once we go to the MWC.
How does Coach Self
recruit kids without the draw of playing in a conference?
There simply is no substitute for experience.
how does Notre Dame?
the history, success, and magic and pixie farts, I assume.
Chlyadin: true, but if the whole school gets neutered by a lower conference anyway, would it really matter?
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I do like the idea.
I really do. KU could just sell the rights to every game. But my overwhelming preference is to stay in a conference.
ND is in the Big East for BBall
Would you like to follow me on Twitter, Facebook, or my blog...well you can't.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 10, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
How..
I was going to say how did Cal recruit to Memphis, but I shall not go there
perhaps you would
like to see this new Lincoln, gently used (combs gel into hair)
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
WIN
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Good idea
My point is…..no conference means a much more difficult job for Coach Self. He’s said as much himself.
And lower revenues for the ath. dept. overall (from not being in a conference) make it even tougher to maintain our standing.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Well.
If by some happenstance we get into the Big 10, and Izzo leaves to become Lebron’s bitch, We could have a good run at the top of the Big 10 in bball.
I'm Your Huckleberry.
we will anyways
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Lew you old fox........
Think about this, Lew would first have to step down from KU before he accepts the helm of one of the remaining conferences. His barginning chip was a promise to bring KU into the new Conference.
Lew is 70 something years old
I highly doubt he’s looking for his next gig. Shit I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he took the $5 million KU retention bonus and already spent it on a place in the Hamptons to write his book.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
I wish I didn't have to drive my kids to sports tonight.
Saves me from a Costco run for bar supplies though
I'm already drunk
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ketzman is crazy.
He just said the KU and K-State should offer to take a half share in order to join the Pac 10. What a homer, he is going to be crying himself to sleep when K-State is in the mountain west.
OK.
I’m from Dallas, so I obviously don’t listen to the guy…but who is this Keitzman guy, and why do you listen to him? It seems like he’s just a blowhard with a microphone.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
He's a K-State grad.
He’s on AM sports radio in KC. One of my coworkers went to school with him.
by MissionJayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The same reason anyone listens to sports radio
to hear someone spout crap about sports. Sometimes true, sometimes false, usually just opinion/preference…
--VegasCat07
I don't listen to him that much anymore.
But right now, today, his show has really been just reading one press release or bit of leaked info after another. Best way to stay on top of what is going on. Other than that, he does do a good job covering the Chiefs. Other than that, I can’t stand him. He is on by far the best Sports station though and if you want to know what is going on, this is the place to listen.
Plus, the guy playing opposite of him is a Jim Rome wanna be and that is even worse than Kietzman.
No, on 610. The afternoon guy. Can't remember his name.
I love Petro. He’s the best guy on radio in the city.
Yeah, that guy.
I just don’t like his style.
Beware the man that has nothing to lose.
Lew is either going to blow our minds, or disappoint us greatly over the next year.
I say we get Texas’ or Florida’ AD.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 10, 2010 4:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Today just makes me want to cry and throw up.
Seriously. Fuck this shit.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
Keep the faith, friend.
We’re gonna be okay. I don’t know how, and I don’t know why I think that, but we’re gonna make it. Just wait. Believe.
When is Late Night?
God I hope you are right.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
you sound like an Obama voter...
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by labbadabba on Jun 10, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
LOL !!!-
that’s twice biotch!!
I’m making Bensa’s day so much brighter…
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Aww, we still like you Bensa...
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Take a shot of Tequila and then a deep breathe.
KU will be fine. I really believe that.
Tequila and I aren't friends.
At least, not since my sophomore year.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude. Vodka and I are best buds.
He’s cool with whoever is at my house.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
That's me and Tequila.
Does Vodka ever talk about me . . .
A little bit...
…only rarely but always with misty eyes and a cracking voice.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been drinking whisky since 4:00 pm
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Gross
However, hand me a vodka tonic and I’m all about it.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Since there are people here.
Anybody got any thoughts on the USC 2-year probation.
Rivet thinks they're being too soft on them
me, I think it’s about right. I think the NCAA learned that if you SMU a school, they’ll never recover…
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They had "amateur" players
The 1987 season was canceled; only conditioning drills (without pads) would be permitted until the spring of 1988.
All home games in 1988 were canceled. SMU was allowed to play their seven regularly scheduled away games so that other institutions would not be financially affected. The university would ultimately choose not to do so (see below).
The team’s existing probation was extended to 1990. Its existing ban from bowl games and live television was extended to 1989.
SMU lost 55 new scholarship positions over 4 years.
The team was only allowed to hire five full-time assistant coaches, instead of the typical nine.
No off-campus recruiting would be permitted until August 1988, and no paid visits could be made to campus by would-be recruits until the start of the 1988-89 school year.
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crazy thing
was that SMU was a stud program during the 70’s and 80’s. Not quite current USC, more like a Georgia with LOADS of Texas money. So it wasn’t like an Alcorn State that got smacked. SMU hasn’t recovered since.
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They got the death penalty
The worst punishment you can give. It also helped lead to the death of the old SWC
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Kentucky almost got it,
but from what I understand the NCAA still feels bad about what happened to SMU and that football conference.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jun 10, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
I support the death penalty too…….and I’m not talking about the NCAA’s death penalty either.
USC is a dirty program. They got off light. It’ll take Kiffin a couple years to get established anyway….so what if they don’t go to bowls during that time. The loss of scholarships is the bigger hit. But being USC I’m sure they can get plenty of talent to walk on.
And I never thought that vacating wins was really any big deal either. Only historical freaks would care about that stuff.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Not really
But I’d love to see Kiffin’s temper tantrum. Also, apparently it’s 30 scholarships?!? I had heard 20 initially. How many do FB teams get?
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Football, Basketball, Baseball
What is the fourth?
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 10, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Track/Cross Countra?
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 11, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish there was a way to punish Carrol.
He should face a fine. Maybe equivalent to the lost revenue of two bowl games something. I am tired of scum bags like him and Calipari leaving Universities out to dry. They have to be punished.
by Chyladin on Jun 10, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
ITS Bush's Fault
Breaking News from the White House******
Today Obama offically decleared the death of the Big 12 as Bush’s fault. Nancy Pelois and Harry Reid confirmed the declaration and said that Bush planned all this back in 2006.
Well -
after what he did to the Texas Rangers this actually makes some sense…
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Yeah!
But can we get a government bailout for the Big 12? Just KU?
by MissionJayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
you only need four teams to claim conference status, so if the Big XII goes to hell and we stay, they will all have to pay a $10 million buyout which would be divided amongst the remaining schools. Not exactly a dream scenario for me.
Maybe, maybe not.
That is open to interpretation. It might be that all of this constitutes a dissolving of the conference and nobody pays anything.
Need a 9-3 or better vote to dissolve the Big 12.
At least that is what has been typed where I have been reading about it… Anyone care to enlighten/link to factual statements about this…?
--VegasCat07
Well Keitzman was saying yesterday.
That the Big 12 bylaws does not have a means of dissolving. If that is true then it is subject to Delaware corp. law because the Big 12 is a Delaware corp. Under that law, if a majority leave, then the Corporation is dissolved.
I have not read anything though. If you have seen something different, it might be just as relevant.
Sebelius is in the administration.
Maybe she can pull some strings. Get something added onto the next health care bill.
The first health care bill was comprehensive, though.
What could they possibly need another health care bill for?
When is Late Night?
Not a health care bill per se
more like a piece of anti-trust legislation…
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Sarcasm??
Not that this is a politics thread:
But Congress has to pass a medicare fix this year to keep a 20% medicare reimbursement cut from going into affect next year. I’ll won’t go any further and let people come up with their own conclusions on why this wasn’t included in the comprehensive bill passed earlier this year.
because the doctors and the AMA hated it
It all stems from a change in Medicare reimbursement rates which was passed and then found very unpalatable politically. So Congress, in their infinite wisdom, decided to “roll back” the cuts. So now, every year, Congress has to vote to roll them back again, rather than having them be set at what Congress originally set them at.
It wasn’t included in the health reform bill because the GOP was already going to town about “cutting Medicare” (which cracks me up that the GOP was the one using that line), and it would have made the bill way more expensive.
Bottom line, this issue would have to have been resolved whether the Republicans or the Democrats were in charge.
But that doesn't fit into my heavily propagandized world view!
by sax solo on Jun 11, 2010 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I came up with this sophisticated graph concerning the potential college football shake up.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jun 10, 2010 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm a visual person....
thanks…the graph really helps : )
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I figured this would help, I know things have been clear as mud.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jun 10, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
love it
and just saw this comment on EDSBS:
“my fearless prediction based on the anonymous sources in my brain:
10 minutes before the CU conference, the Big 10 unveils a Webcast from Chicago. Representatives from MU, Nebraska and Notre Dame announce THE BIG 14. Then moon in the general direction of Austin and dive into piles of money."
at this point, I kinda want to see someone do this- just for the sheer honesty and ludicrousness
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 10, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS
at this point, I kinda want to see someone do this- just for the sheer honesty and ludicrousness
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
Fail.
That should be in response to mikedrawjayhawk.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You looking to move on?
Any limits to geography is it any-and-all?
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 10, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i will go anywhere and everywhere.
I’ve already lived in four different states and another country, so I’m cool with moving around.
My company is in a lot of trouble and cut its whole Marketing Program so I’m officially on the hunt. Kind of exciting actually.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
You work for the Big XII?
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jun 10, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Lolz
No that’d be even worse :)
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 10, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You try Journalism Jobs?
They might have something up your alley.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah you know I JUST found out about that site about a week ago
Its pretty cool, although it focuses more on newspaper writing jobs, which isn’t really my field although I’m a good writer. But yeah its def one I’m going to keep my eye on
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 11, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
They have straight marketing jobs at times
Either way, thought I’d suggest it. It’s how I found my current job four years ago so I think it’s served me well.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
One possible chance for Kansas...
Right now Texas A&M is seriously considering a jump to the SEC. Texas, Tech, Oklahoma and OK State have apparently decided that they’re going to the Pac-10, with or without A&M
I have been told by a buddy of mine who is pretty wired into the Pac-10 offices that Utah and Kansas are on the short list for that last invite if A&M bails on the deal. Baylor and BYU have no shot because of religious affiliation.
Utah has a very good football program, solid hoops and the growing Salt Lake City TV markets, and I can see the league looking at them as a natural rival for Colorado. But Kansas would have a shot, I think.
I'm not sure if I can handle another day of this...especially since it's likely to drag on for another week.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
MAC
Maybe the four ugly ducklings of the Big 12 just end up in the MAC. I haven’t heard this scenario discussed yet.
Personally, I’d view it as a failure. But less of a failure than being independent. Or just remaining in a four team conference.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
edsbs.com
Has a hilarious article on MAC expansion. Basically compares the conference to a 40 year old guy perfectly fine with living in his parents’ garage and playing x-box.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 12:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
edsbs.com
Has a hilarious article on MAC expansion. Basically compares the conference to a 40 year old guy perfectly fine with living in his parents’ garage and playing x-box.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 12:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd much rather see
the formation of the Midwest/Heartland/Great Plains/Whatever conference we’ve all mentioned with Utah, BSU, BYU, etc. But it seems like that could be a long way coming, if at all, since most schools are going to wait and see if they get asked to the prom.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 8:04 AM CDT reply actions
How about a Sunflower conference?
KU, KSU, WSU, Washburn, Fort Hays State, Pitt, Baker, um…. Butler Community College? Make it so, Lew.
A lot of those sketchy jucos in the state could compete with D-1 teams. I say do it!
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 1:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
on 810
they said there’s an emergency meeting of the Big XII ADs to see if they can salvage the conference sans Nebraska and Colorado…that would be great if it happens, but to be honest at this point, I might take the first good offer that comes if I’m KU, because who’s to say we won’t be in this same position a year or two from now if we stay together?
the bottom line here is that these schools don’t trust and respect one another.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 11, 2010 8:38 AM CDT reply actions
Yep
the bottom line here is that these schools don’t trust and respect one another.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
orangebloods
Orangebloods says that they might try to add Arkansas and TCU. I have no idea why Arkansas would leave the SEC, but hey, what do I know?
A whole lot of media has been banging the "KU Hoops" drum over the last couple of days.
I have to hope that will get in some minds when these decisions are made and help with finding a safe landing spot.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Bill Self has been out banging the drum hardcore...
and we couldn’t have a better person for it.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
he was on the scott van pelt radio show yesterday
and did a bang up job. such a great face for the program right now.
by PhillyJayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
should be on here
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/podcast/archive?id=3028618
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if that doesn't work, i downloaded it through itunes
search scott van pelt, it’s the show for 6/10
by PhillyJayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
That's the AD's job
Lew is the one who should be banging the KU drum.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
given recent developments
Bill is probably the better public face for the University right now…
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I'm sure he is behind closed doors
but if the University wants a national face on this, Bill Self is the guy.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
he's the greatest
he really, really is
by PhillyJayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't disagree.
I get the sense from Coach Self that maybe he’s a little frustrated with the situation.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Might as well start another day of Twitter rumors:
nate_bukaty
Gary Barnett joined us on the BP this AM. He says, if there are no defections, other than Neb, by today, Big 12 has better than 50-50 chance
Barnett says folks in the Big 12 tell him they’ll try to add Arkansas and TCU. Podcast should be up shortly.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Gary Barnett?
Why exactly does he have any credibility? That said, I think adding Arkansas and TCU and keeping the Big 12 together would be the best scenario at this point.
Mizzou alum
and former Colorado head coach…gotta believe he is at least a little plugged in to what’s going on…still, I think that even if the Big XII survives this, I’ve got to believe that the league is not viable in the long-run UNLESS they can really add some teams like Arkansas and get better leadership at the top…as I said above, these schools seem not to trust or respect one another very much…if I’m KU I consider jumping at the first chance to join the PAC-10 or Big-10, which is somewhat of a switch for me as I was originally hoping that we could keep the Big XII together but I don’t think that’s a winner long-term now.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 11, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Great, so we can just delay the inevitable!
Our marriage to the Big 12 is irretrievably broken…irreconcilable differences and all that. At this point, I would rather blow up the Big 12 and work toward joining the Pac 10, Big 10, Big East or ACC. I fear that fixing the B12 at this point is the equivalent to slapping some duct tape on the problems. Plus, adding Arkansas and TCU? All the sudden KU, K-State, ISU and Mizzou are all stuck in the SEC light.
"irreconcilable differences????"
Don’t you really mean Colorado and Nebraska whoring around?
And Mizzou falling over with her legs open….but with no takers?
by PDXJayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
"And Mizzou falling over with her legs open….but with no takers?"
HAHAHAHAHA.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
The more I hear PAC 10 the more I wince
Without the TX schools it would destroy our FB recruiting except KS/KC and you cannot field a comp div 1 program with our small pop base.
BB would dominate. But I think we would in any league.
I agree...
the Pac10 is attractive only if it is a last resort….or if the Texas schools go. The reality with our Texas recruiting is that it is so successful because we play against those teams and the kids down there know us from it. Make no mistake, we aren’t pulling kids away from UT, we are pushing for the ones left out that still want to be associated with Texas, the Big 12 and the conference where the Longhorns and all those schools play.
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What about the Big 10
w/o the Texas schools?
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Wherever Texas goes...
will likely be viewed by those in Texas as a place to be.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Well
even those outside of Texas might view it as the place to be if you are at all interested in………money.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
And if this all proves one thing
it’s that people are interested in money… and winning – but only it it comes with money. :-D
--VegasCat07
We can draw in midwest not from california consistanty
We have many students from Chicago,unless thing have changed dramatically. I Currently live up here in MN and I see the Jayhawk everywhere including many college age kids vehicles, I even saw a KU flag in the academic office of a 4000 student HS. I cannot remember a single MN student I met when I was at KU over 20 years ago. So we must be expanding our draw in the upper midwest over those years. Like TX if the athlete knows we will be in their home turf on occasion they will look at us.
we had quite a few
MN kids on our club hockey team at KU…
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Had to learn to like Hockey up here
My kids both play. I Think it is up there with wresting for strength and endurance
definitely
I did both. In terms of full-body workout there’s not much that can touch hockey. But you’re right wrestling is about as close as I can remember getting.
That’s why I play goalie, I still play out when I play street hockey but I just don’t have the endurance any more to play out on ice. Plus, I enjoy playing goalie!
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Being a hocky goalie sounds terrifying to me haha
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 11, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
it's sweet
it’s a great combo of quickness, atheticism, and mental focus. Love it…
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For real?
They’ve got twice as much gear as a catcher.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
yeah -
it’s prolly the safest position in terms of major injury. I get my share of bruises. THe worse injury I had was when I took a skate blade through the thumb. It cut completely through my glove on my blocker and sliced through my thumb nail down to the bone. It was such a clean cut that I didn’t feel it until after the play I noticed a pool of blood on the ice. My thumb has a sweet scar and I still have blood on my blocker from it.
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I really like the idea now of going to the PAC-Integer
if it’s a possibility…our country’s population is migrating west and south and it would be nice to be on the vanguard of that…plus i don’t like being beholden to Texas…I’m not sure that this doesn’t happen again in a few years.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 11, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Eventually
All conferences will cease to exist. TV revenue conquers all. Deals are brokered, backs stabbed. Historic conferences will be cannibalized for their best members. Smaller schools with lesser revenue left out in a shady ranking system by which a national champion is crowned behind closed doors. By 2100, there is a lone 120-team conference left that calls itself… the National Collegiate Athletics Association!!!
NO ONE IS SAFE!!!
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to wonder if The Dr. was really legit.
TheShiver just posted:
Rumor, fact, whatever. Here it goes. Nebraska and Missouri were offered an increase of moneys by 1% or 1 share or whatever the Big 12 calls it. Both turned down the offer and NU should be gone today and MU, I guess, still seems to think they have a shot at the Big 10. The SEC has been all over KU in the past 24 hours and have expressed to KU that they want KU, the basketball program and the KC market. From what I was told – the SEC mentioned something about growing states that SEC currently does not cover.
When is Late Night?
Holy. Shit.
I…I…I really don’t know what to think of this. Kansas in the SEC? Now that is surreal to me.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
it could be a very good thing for a lot of reasons.
1. Obvious rivalry with Kentucky in basketball, rises to epic level on par with UNC/Duke
2. Ridiculous football conference. Would force a serious continuing commitment to football to compete at any level in-conference.
3. Large increase in conference revenue from CBS and ESPN TV deals.
Obviously, it’s not perfect, but there are some very good things that could come from this.
When is Late Night?
Calipari v Self every year...
would be insane…especially if it was twice a year which I assume the alignment would lend itself to.
We’d have some serious work to do in football, but if you aren’t ready for the challenge what’s the point.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Totally agree on both points.
Although, I doubt Cal will be at Kentucky as long as Self is at KU, but that’s just me.
When is Late Night?
I'm with you on that.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
It's just weird for me to think of us being in what is a distinctly Southern conference
I have a hard enough time convincing my friend from Michigan that Kansas is not part of The South.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I frequently encounter people from New Jersey
that are convinced the state of Kansas is in the “south”. >.<
--VegasCat07
They also live in what they call "The Garden State"
It’s pretty much a given their perception of reality is, shall we say, skewed.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I live in NY
NYC is about the same latitude as St. Joe. Philly is about the same latitude as KC.
And it’s WAY colder in Kansas, way hotter too. Basically the weather sucks. Except for bad-ass Spring thunderstorms… (just as long as nobody gets hurt)
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No thunderstorms is one of the hard parts about living in Eastern Oregon for me
The few they do get out here are wimpy as shit.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Its the thing I missed most when I lived in Germany
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jun 11, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
NYC is about the same latitude as Lincoln, NE
Philly is a little north of St. Joe
KC is about level with Baltimore.
I live in Washington, DC and I agree with you completely about the weather. I really miss the thunderstorms.
"I think a tactical error might have been committed by the manager of the Royals"
Nthing missing the thunderstorms
And the huge sky, the trees. The times when you’re driving some distance on the highway and you see a storm in the distance that looks like some giant dark wall. Nature is some glorious yet sublime shit out in Kansas.
I miss all the weather, really. KS had it all. Go north, too much snow; go south, not enough. Every time I think about it, I remember a girl I knew out here in California who tried to tell me how different the seasons are in the Bay Area, and I just started laughing.
on the bright side...
most of our current football staff have strong ties to the Southeast region in terms of their career track. Probably becomes a little easier on the recruiting trail if you actually look the part of an SEC school.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Dude -
we’re definitely a Northern state. There’s a Bible Belt element but the mentality of the state is much more aligned with with that of the Northern Plains states. I’d say we have much more in common with Iowa than we do with Oklahoma or Arkansas.
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Ditto.
I love going overseas and talking to my friends about Kansas. Most of them only know about Superman (Smallville). Even the Wizard of Oz doesn’t register.
However, it is a real treat to entertain them the with story of the Jayhawk and the proud Kansas history of standing up against slavery. I’m getting excited just thinking about it now!!!
Yep -
When ever I’m out with my (tarheel) wife and someone asks me what a Jayhawk is, she groans because she know’s I’m about to unleash my pre-prepared Kansas history lesson…
What I love is telling all my East-Coast buddies how much I miss KS and KC. They all look at me like I just grew horns. That is at least the ones who have never spent real time in the midwest. I’d MUCH rather be in KS then most anywhere else, and I’ve lived in some pretty cool places…
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But according to Mizzou
They was just sitting there minding their own business not doing anything when the Jayhawks were so mean to them.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 11, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
My sarcasm font did not work out too well.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 11, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't need it
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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amen
like I always say, no coast > east or west coast
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Announcement of Self leaving
would just about round out this crazy week.
by sax solo on Jun 11, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OH JESUS
I read the first line of your post and I literally saw my heart punch a hole in my chest.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Relax
Kansas Basketball is bigger than any one man or coach.
I’m not a big basketball fan and even I know that.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
True -
but that doesn’t mean even a well-regarded coach could run the program into the ground. What HCBS has done is pretty impressive despite the fact that he’s with a blue-blood program.
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but he's one of the best coaches in the country
and one of the best recruiters. You don’t just replace them.
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That's the same thing they were saying when Coach Brown left!!
We seemed to do okay after all that.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
yeah,
all those national titles
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Not saying Roy Williams is a bad HC.
But we could have use a couple of those National Titles that he won at North Carolina as well.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 11, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That is until Calipari cheats again
and has to leave just ahead of the sanctions to follow. :-/
--VegasCat07
followed by everyones favorite term...
vacated wins : )
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Calipari will jump to the NBA before Self arrives
And KU takes over the conference in hoops
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 11, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
That won't be too hard.
KU just has to be accepted, and we already dominate SEC basketball.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions
In other words.
Next year.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions
You mean Calipari v Self
for a year or 2, hell I doubt Calipari will be in Kentucky by the time realignment would go into effect.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jun 11, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt Calipari will even be the NBA when that happens.
He will be coaching in the Summer Olymipcs, after getting banned from the NBA for cheating by signing Kobe Bryant away from the Los Angeles Lakers to his team, while Bryant is still under contract.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions
100%
I would love this, plain and simple.
The only thing that would make me happier would be KU to the SEC along with Virginia Tech, UVa or West Virginia. I’d travel to Charlottesville, Blacksburg or Morgantown in a heartbeat to see KU play on a regular basis. Even if it was every other year, there’d still be football games to go to.
long travel, but
the football would be incredible and I would LOVE beating up on Kentucky twice a year. Mixed feelings on this one
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 11, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I saved the post...
because as I said…the guy looks legit based on who he is and his association with KU. I just have no way of verifying whether or not he truly has any ties to the AD.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Well -
I read that the SEC is lacking in top-30 TV markets. That’s why they’re going so hard after aTm. Considering our national following in Bball and KC being the 33rd market I could see it. For me it’s SEC or Big 10 if we jump.
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I should have been clearer
they have like 4-5 markets where the Big Ten has 8-9.
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Hmmm . . . .
Thinking of the 4-5.
Atlanta, Nashville, (What do you count out of Florida??)
hmm
Miami metro (tho, having lived down there, there aren’t a lot of Gators or Seminoles) North Florida and South Florida are VERY different. Tampa, Orlando. As far as other markets, New Orleans but I don’t think they’re top 30 any more. That’s about it. Everything else would be like Louisville, Memphis, Jackson, Charleston etc…
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Louisville, Memphis, Jackson, Charleston aren't top 30
I don’t think it is as much of a concern in the SEC because they have plenty of people, they are just rather spread out.
T Boone Pickens had some fairly strong comments
against realignment:
“I’m holding out for the Big 12 to stay together — I think it’s a good conference and leave it alone,” said Pickens, speaking from his ranch in Texas. “Loyalty is a pretty high priority for me and I’m just not keen on walking out on Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State,” he said, adding that he’s made his feelings known to Oklahoma State’s athletic and academic leaders. "The schools that get left out cause me some real pause
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
sorry, but at this point
i don’t trust any of those guys…they say that today and then as soon as someone cuts them a better deal, they be gone…i say we do what’s best for us, and if we get invited to one of these other leagues, I think we should seriously consider going at this point. screw the Big TeXIIas.
Boone Pickens is deep into Texas’ @ss, he contributed $100 mm to them for a medical center or something and one of the Texas Regents is on the board of one of his companies.
i think that it would be delicious irony if everybody deserted Texas and they were forced to go independent or scrounge around for a league…face it, who wants to deal with having to play them every year in football and basketball…if you’re USC, why in the fuck are you going to bring in a team that is in a serious position to dominate your league and diminish your standing (forget about the sanctions, I’m just talking in the theoretical sense)?
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 11, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
USC
USC doesn’t run the Pac 10. Why is the Pac 10 interested in Texas? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
League domination and diminishing of standing aren’t even a thought.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Yep
They proved that by adding Colorado. Colorado adds absolutely nothing except television sets. And even think that is a dubious distinction. Does anybody really think Colorado dominates the Denver media market competing against Colorado St., Air Force, Denver Broncos, the Nuggets, Rockies, and Avalanche?
I live here...
and the answer is no.
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just curious about AF
since you’ve promoted them at various points. Are the service academies even allowed to partake in a big conference with large TV revenues?
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a great question.
and I’m not aware of anything that would prevent them from doing so. I can see where you might wonder though.
My main reason for promoting them is entirely selfish reasons. First off…regardless of the conference the Air Force Academy is a GREAT place to see a game. The cadets parade in, pushups on the field when they score, the older vets in the stands and the pride and respect surrounding the whole place is just something that is great to experience.
Plus…you know how everyone likes a good flyover? I’ve been two a game that had 4 OF THEM!! Well, three and a precision parachute jump by the mascot, but still…pretty good stuff.
Now if you really want to amplify that experience, I caught Air Force vs. Army in 2007…incredible.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
flyovers r sweet
always love ’em. And I understand your selfish reasoning behind the promotion.
My main thinking was based on the fact that it is a military school with Congressional oversight, and whether they can accept the TV contracts that major conferences push for. In a sense, it’s a question of being a for-profit or nfp institution, though I’m not sure even Congress could answer that (ok, bad example)
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
As an undergrad at KSU I was always hoping Snyder would schedule them
Yeah, they’re not a great conference buddy, but boy I would love to see a KSU game at Air Force. And if that doesn’t work out, maybe I’ll have to go for some other game some time. It is such a beautiful place.
wow -
is it National Change Your Avatar day?
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Remember this is also about academics and $$ from them
CU has the most Federal Govt Grant dollars of any university in the country I think about $550 million a year!
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
This is not about academics.
I’m not even questioning CU academics. This is not about academics. This was a big F-You to Texas.
agreed
any argument about academics being in the top 3 of priorities with all this was blown away when Colorado was slapped w/ academic penalties, and invited to a new conference on the same day.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Where was Pickens’ loyalty to veterans when he was swiftboating John Kerry? These guys are not to be trusted- it’s all about $ no matter what.
(Not saying Kerry would have been a great President. Just saying no veteran should ever be treated in such a shameful manner.)
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 1:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
My humor bone was tickled.
Nebraska will become the 12th member of the Big Ten.
speaking of which
I’m sure this has been covered, but can someone refresh me on why the Big 10 wants Nebraska? Sure they want to add schools, but what is it about Nebraska. I can see why Nebraska wants to go to the Big 10. Is it just the best the Big 10 can do?
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by SagehenMacGyver47 on Jun 11, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
still haven't seen any confirmation anywhere
not true until it’s confirmed!!!
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
apparently
the Nebraska Board of Regents are meeting behind closed doors as we speak, decision to come afterward (maybe an hour?)
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 11, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
much as I love the Star, their release came out right as the meeting was supposed to begin. Unless it was that much of a done deal, I don’t think it’s completely over yet.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
omaha herald
is now reporting it as a done deal and “investigating a tip about another school”
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 11, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
it’s definitely spreading now. According to Chip Brown, press conference at 5pm.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
SAD day for KU
How many years in a row have we played NU? 98 (I think).
And fucking Tom Osbourne just pissed that all away for $$$$.
I’m going to enjoy teaching my UofM and MSU grad relatives how to hate the bugeaters.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Has any other SB site had the volume
RCT has had during this whole mess?
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I have noticed
that almost every other site has been really quiet
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I can say I am here posting it up
since RCT was the first I found with a dedicated Big 10/Pac 10/Realignment thread… And without any mudslinging or ’moran’s posting about.
--VegasCat07
Rock Chalk Talk
Morans Free till 2023!
Thanks for stopping by btw- it’s nice getting other school perspectives. Wonder what Cyclone Nation is thinking right now…
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 1:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Morans free since KC left us anyway.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Both variations of the word fit him.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Whatever happened to KC anyway?
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I noticed he posted late lastnight on the Dr. Fan Post
It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.
not of BYU joins up...
oh, wait that’s Mormans…
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between the conference realignmen stuff and the USC ban hammer
rollbamaroll has been blowing up as well..
Also, FTR I’d love to see Kansas in the SEC… would have to make a pilgrimage to Allen Fieldhouse every time Bama plays there… would be surreal
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One thing I haven't heard mentioned here is CU's culture.
I have always perceived CU/Boulder has a much bigger hippie/liberal bent to it than most places in the the Big 12. I really think they believe they have more kindred spirits in the West Coast more liberal universities.
I’m not judging that aspect as being good or bad, just an observation I have.
All but USC
Bouced around from KS to SO and Norcal as a youth. You have never seen so many coddled mind blown homeless as in SF and Berkley. Berkley does have a awsome free FB grass seating area though. At least it was that way 15 yrs ago.
I have heard the same
and think that you probably have a good point there. I live in Lawrence and have heard many times that Boulder puts Lawrence’s liberal-ness to shame (again not judging, simply stating). That would seem to align more with the West coast as you indicated
by P. J. Karasek on Jun 11, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn hippies.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Additionally...
I’ve spoken to a number of Colorado fans who feel Colorado is much more aligned culturally, etc. with California, Oregon and Washington than it is with Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma.
I am always skeptical of people speeching for a state.
But, personally, I have always consider Colorado to have a unique culture. They are more environmentalist than much of the mid-west but still have a libertarian bent to them. There is still a very large bible-belt component of Colorado. Just a unique state.
Colorado is very much a reddish state
my uncle is the DA for Ft. Collins, and my cousin is a DC staffer for a Colorado congresswoman so I try to keep an eye what’s going on out there politically…
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I would think Denver is to Coloradoans what NYC is to most people from New York
After all, didn’t Colorado produce the budding genius that was Tancredo?
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the same way here in Oregon
Portland and the Willamette Valley are very liberal and hold the bulk of the population, but outside of that you hit some pretty conservative folks.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hence, why I want to move to Portland
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hat to break it to you guys . . .
but liberalism is a city phenomenon. Just look at the map. The liberal areas are all center around cities. Even California is all red except for the cities.
Don't most educated people
tend to live in cities?
Not saying that conservatives are uneducated, clearly there are a few here, but one could draw the that conclusion by using your metric…
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In an attempt to remain level-headed...
…let’s just say they value different types of education.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah - Denver or mod
please delete my post, it’s bad…
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We're not going to fight over that.
It’s fine for now.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Oh, I've read studies that show the higher up the education food chain the more liberal you become.
At the same time, I’ve seen studies showing the Tea Party Members on average are more educated (percentage wise) than Republicans and Democrats.
One also has to consider age, though
I think the whole more educated = more liberal trend is a more recent phenomenon.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a good Tea Party friend
who considers himself a liberal. Granted he was part of the Tea Party movement prior to 4/15/09 back before Dick Armey got his claws into it. By buddy no longer associates himself with the movement but he’s still very much agrees with with movement’s original core principles.
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ha, Dick Armey
North Dakota native, I might add.
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I consider myself a Catholic
But I’m sure the Pope would consider me otherwise if he knew my lifestyle.
Just sayin’.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, you're preaching to the choir, man
But I still care about the Church. It’s just that any institution administered by humans often has its fits of social idiocy.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
agree -
That’s why I’m an Episcopalian. All the fun stuff with none of the weird, (well some weird stuff).
But yeah, the Church is a man-made institution and is subject to the whims and foibles of mankind.
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Oh Episcopalians...
A little more sane than Lutherans, but still a good time.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
ha!
I was raised Lutheran (ELCA, not Missouri Synod) my wife is an Episcopalian so I’ve taken to it. The two churches are very similar.
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Yeah, my statement didn't apply to the MO Synod folks
COMPLETELY different from the ELCA, in my opinion.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
MO synod is WAY more conservative than ELCA. The actual people aren’t that much different, but the “policies” of the church are. Growing up MO Synod, i always thought it wasn’t as extreme as some. But that just depends on which side of the fence you are looking i guess!
by WillieWannabe on Jun 11, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
well
you coulda been Wisconsin Synod…
I actually went to a Mo Synod church while I was in HS. I didn’t find it all that wacky but then not very many 14 y/o kids I knew were up on the whole dogma thing…
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definitely
we’re treading a fine line, I’m guilty of it as well…
We Jayhawks need to stick together right now.
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Agreed
It was just nice to be talking about something other than the inevitable demise of our conference because of a bunch of whiny brats to the west, east and north of us.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
WIN!
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
As the sayimg goes
Young liberals have a heart Old conservatives have a brain
Oh, I know
but there are some cities so strongly overassociated with their state it overshadows the rest of the state.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
that was probably a better thing to say..
my bad, please ignore my potentially flame-war inducing post…
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No worries
If anything, a flame war would distract us from the shitstorm that is going on around us.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely true.
Best example, Chicago and Illinois. Outside Chicago Illinois is very conservative.
Here's an opposite
Minneapolis/St. Paul
The suburbs of the city are very red but the surrounding rural areas are still pretty blue. You got a lotta dust bowl farmers who still remember FDR.
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Makes for a very unique election state.
Which has been the case.
I have very little room in my political heart
for Pawlenty, but he gave a good interview on the Daily Show last night…
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Yeah, I was trying to speak about culture without it being political.
Yes, politically Colorado is pretty red. Culturally though, they are rather unique. I had the opportunity to live in New Zealand for an extended period of time and I think they are culturally similar to each other.
Chip Brown calls it:
B12 South schools (TX, TTech, OU, OSU) confirm to OB with Neb move they go to Pac-10!!!
So that’s it, then, I guess.
When is Late Night?
Then this:
Texas will announce its plans to join the Pac-10 after its regents meet next Tuesday, source confirm to Orangebloods.com.
When is Late Night?
Gotta dominate next week's news, too.
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Come on SEC!!!
I’m actually starting to see the logic in this (still think we’re a better fit for B10).
SEC already owns in football, and could potentially build up KU a little too. But what they get more is KU’s basketball, which, when added to UK, would make them a pretty strong force year-round and in the two revenue sports. What other conference can boast that (other than the Big 12?)
Not only that, they get the KC market, and an inroad to Dallas, Denver, and Chicago.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the SEC a lot better than the Big 10.
Going to the Big 10 would feel a lot like being in the Big 12 with no real challenge for KU. I like the challenge of facing UK.
Disagree
The “challenge” of facing slow Ten opponents would be easier than the speed demons of the SEC. Facing Florida and Bama would be akin to 1980’s KU facing Tom Osbourne’s thugs.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
Oh, I was talking about B-Ball.
We’ll get our ass kick in football in the SEC.
This is all about football
AND, I don’t think we get our asses kicked, not entirely anyway…
most likely, the SEC will reorganize. The SEC West will be:
Vandy
Miss St
Ark
Ole Miss
LSU
Kentucky
aTm
KU
Outside of LSU and Ole Miss (maybe) we could definitely hang.
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Not now
Maybe in a few years. Football recruiting would be easier if we were in the SEC
There simply is no substitute for experience.
yep.
I’d say that we’d compare favorably with most of the SEC West teams right now, but that’s me…
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i'm gonna have to disagree with this possible restructure
I don’t see how you could possibly move Kentucky and Vanderbilt to the SEC West and put Alabama and Auburn in the East… it would stack the East way too much and then you’d run into the same problem the Big 12 has had recently with the conference championship being little more than a formality (though it was certainly an interesting formality this year)
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to expand on my opinion
If KU and aTm joined the SEC along with 2 of the following: FL St, the U, VaTech, GaTech, Clemson
I think the conference divisions would be the same as they are, and just adding the teams to the appropriate side based on region (western most teams join the SEC West and vice versa).
So here’s the list:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Kansas
LSU
Miss St
Ole Miss
aTm
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With the other additions that makes sense but
wouldn’t that make for almost a 20-team conference? You’d almost need 3 divisions…
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with 2 of the following
add 2 to the east and 2 to the west… the grand total would be that magical 16 number that is so hot right now
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No, it's "hottt"
Gotta carry the “t” as long as possible.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Not aTm???
That leaves the Pac at 15. Seems like aTm, KU, and Utah are up for 2 spots in the Pac/SEC
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 2:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
following live blog of NU presser
Interesting reading how things actually went down in the Big XII meetings. Needless to say, continue blaming Texas.
Well of course an NU
source is going to try their hardest to point at UT. Not to say it isn’t all or majority blame to Texas, just that a Nebraska source might be a poor place to pull that blame from…
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maybe i'm misunderstanding some of this...
“we do not bear the responsibility of breaking up the Big 12” uh, yes you do. maybe not alone, but you bear some of it.
“could assign long-term media rights to conference” ok, that is Texas
“any penalty on NU would be inappropriate from leaving” what? are they saying they shouldn’t lose any contract money on this? because they said earlier that they would leave in 1 year, which means 80% of revenue.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck that.
Go ahead and try to get that money, you lame ass whiny bitches. There are no free rides- you want out, you pay the price.
I get so sick of people and groups blaming others for their shortcomings. Take some personal responsibility, Nebraska.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 2:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Complete Conjecture
I don’t nesscesarily think the Big Ten is out of the question for KU. What does Mizzou bring to the table that Kansas doesn’t? TheSt. Louis market? I think Delaney isn’t thinking bigger than individual markets at this point and Nebraska is a step in that direction (with Notre Dame being the lynch pin). If you had premier football and basketball games on the network on a fairly regular basis you could make a great case for making it on to basic cable nationally (plus the way Delaney hardballed cable companies up here gives me the impression that he could be the right guy to pull something crazy like that off).
Granted, if the capis 14 I think we are done expanding west. However if we really do go to 16 I think Kansas is in play. It would have to be seperated from KState but why not make the Big Ten a great basketball conference as well?
Giving the network must see programming (Nebraska Penn State in football? Kansas Michigan State in basketball?) would give Delaney a pretty big stick to expand the network well beyond the conference footprint.
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nah -
I meant in football…
Basketball too of course. I just sucks that Indiana sits pretty in the Big 10 while we are fighting for our lives…
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MIZZOU TO HOLD PRESSER
Latest: @610SportsKC reporting MU officials will speak to the media this afternoon
Awww shit
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
this is me freaking out:
oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap. oh crap.
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or if I were a fish:
oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp. oh carp.
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Wouldn't it really be...?
oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam.oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam.oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam. oh dam.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Lord knows I try
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
But at this point do we really care where Mizzou goes?
The Big12 is toast, done, gone, finnito, dead. If they announce Big 10 , fine we’ll move on to another conference. I just hope that Mizzou holds the presser just to announce they got gang raped and didn’t even get a reach around.
by MichiganJayHawk on Jun 11, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the announce their move to Conf USA?
my worry here is they take a desirable spot with the Big 10 or Pac-whatever before we do. It’s every school for itself. Come on Lew!!
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Yes
I care where MU goes. I want them to go to the crappiest conference out there! Muck them!!!! I want them to see that they aren’t the best option out there. I want them to eat everything they’ve said for so long. I HATE them. :)
Think about what you're saying.
Calm down and think.
MU goes to the “crappiest conference out there” and chances are good that our rivalry (as we know it) is over. Cause brother KU is NOT going to the crappiest conference out there.
I don’t like MU any more than the next Jayhawk. But I’d like to see them land on their feet right beside us so we can continue to kick their asses more often than not.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
^This.
For me the saddest aspect of this whole thing is the real risk that we are going to lose our historic rivalries forever. Rivalries are what make college sports the best, and ours with Mizzou is as epic as they come.
Yep -
we’ve already lost the 3rd oldest rivalry in football, I’d hate to lose the 2nd oldest as well…
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I think MU is holding a press conference to remind the country that they still, in fact, exist. Also, they do still have D-1 sports.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 11, 2010 2:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
as funny as it sounds
this may be more likely than not. Have there been any meetings of their Board of Regents that would suggest their addition to the B10?
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
also, just saw this footnoted on ESPN
East Carolina AD talks Big East/CUSA
Could just be self-promotion though
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
Conference USA
They are also talking about making a play for whoever gets left behind in the Big 12. That would suck for KU, K-State, and Mizzou.
by MissionJayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That's all well and good,
but it certainly doesn’t mean that will be the only/best offer KU gets. We’re not out of the running for Pac-1x or SEC, I don’t think. Big East could still be a possibility. I’m sure nobody in the AD’s office is saying, “hey, C-USA wants us. Let’s take it now!”
When is Late Night?
interestingly
MU fans still seem confident the Big 10 is going after them. Course, they also say that Texas is going to the B10, so…
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
If this is all about getting into a power conference and landing in a prestigious place, I would think it looks pretty bleak for us. If this is about landing someplace, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and making the best of your situation, I think we will be fine. We’ve always been kind of an underdog, in the Big 8, and even more so in the Big XII. I think that alums and friends who love ISU are pretty loyal, whatever the conference. This may even serve to circle the wagons somewhat.
Hope that we can hang in with you and K-State when it settles out. I have really fond memories of the conference BB tournaments in KC. Good times. But, whether that happens or not, I have no doubt that you and your purple cousins will find a good place and continue to have good programs.
Dan Beebe teleconference on the B12 site
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
I'm listening
and what a ridiculous waste of time this has been. Beebe is clueless and this teleconference reminds me of a deathbed interview with a defiant and ignorant lost cause.
When is Late Night?
Well I didn't really expect more
than a carefully veiled state of the union type address. I think it is interesting that
A) the Big Ten told them about NU, and haven’t said anything about adding anyone else yet
B) refuting Nebraska’s claim that they don’t owe any revenue for leaving even a year early. IF the B12 sticks around, I hope NU gets nailed on it.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't he say the Big10 called this morning about NU?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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yes
that’s what he said. So there’s no guarantee that B10 doesn’t want anyone else. I did notice that MU has released another statement backing the Big 12. Any word from our side?
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing that I've seen or heard.
I just thought it was hilarious that he was boasting about how he was notified by the Big10 well after the decision was more or less done.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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I didn't understand the purprose of it. Seemed like this:
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Long Day.....
Okay just catching up on todays “As the Big 12, 11, 10 Turns”. Anyone who thinks the Big 10/11/12 is not after someone else, is not paying attention. Mizzouri was used to pique NU interest, and then Bam NU is gone and MU has a case of the clap. So there is probably still one team headed to the Big 10/11/12 especially if NU joining the Big 10/11/12 forces ND into joining. A&M is seeing this as a way to ditch Texas and probably want into the SEC. So the SEC probably wants at least one more school. Pac 10 is going to take who ever they can get from the soon to be defunct Big 12 and they will fill in the blanks with Utah or BYU. So from my observation there is at least 2 spots potentially open that no one is talking about.
Well,
I’d say a lot of people have been talking about those very scenarios in the comments above. They’ve been dominant topics of conversation, actually.
When is Late Night?
What I meant...
by not talking about it, is people who make will make the decision on who fills those spots. Were talking about them but thats because we have no control.
Well, obviously
we have no idea what “they” are talking about because we’re not there. We keep hearing reports, mostly unsubstantiated of course, but reports nonetheless, that there have been talks between KU and both the Pac-10 and the SEC. We’ll know soon enough, I guess…
When is Late Night?
If A&M goes to the SEC...
I would guess that Utah gets the bid over Kansas due to the Salt Lake City TV market and the BCS success of their football program. BYU has zero chance at Pac-10 membership due to their religious affiliation.
I cannot imagine a better instance of schadenfreude
Get used to Purgatory, Missouri
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Funny to see
So many clueless news organizations covering this story. Just read a story on the Atlantic that claimed one of the “losses” of this expansion so far is the “historic Nebraska-Colorado rivalry going on since 1948”. WTF?
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 7:24 PM CDT reply actions
So do we root for A&M to go to the SEC?
http://twitter.com/JHolihan/statuses/15966289794
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I'm thinking the same at this point.
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by tequilaprophet on Jun 11, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
2nd this, as stated above
I love the SEC for what it is. Almost went to Auburn because I wanted to experience the big-time southern football.
At the same time, I think it would be awkward for KU. It’d be a solid strategy for the SEC to pull though.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too.
Get away from the hippies.
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by Warden11 on Jun 11, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Latest I'm hearing is TAMU to the SEC
And a coin flips chance between KU and Utah for Pac 10 membership.
Anyone heard anything similar/different?
Shit happens when you win championships
Lemme check with
The Dr.
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honestly
I have to think the PAC-10 is leaning toward Utah. It’s still in their neck of the woods, SLC is a pretty good (and growing) market, and why else would the MWC add in Boise, if not for fear of losing one of their marquee schools?
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
If A&M goes to the SEC
…and I think it’s still a big “if”, then the Pac-10 short list will include Utah and Kansas. Neither BYU or Baylor has a chance due to religious affiliations.
I think Utah is more likely, for a couple of reasons…
1) Salt Lake City is the #33 TV market and growing, and Utah is one of the fastest growing states in the nation. Pac-10 wants to cover the West.
2) I think Utah is viewed as more of a natural rival to Colorado, another “mountain school”. Utes and Buffs can enter the league as a pair, like OU and Oklahoma State.
3) Utah has had good BCS success, with two recent BCS wins and two undefeated seasons in the last couple of years.
Not saying Kansas doesn’t have a shot, but I think it’ll take a lot of lobbying by KU to make it happen. I have also heard Missouri mentioned as another possibility.
If Missouri is a possibility
no way does Kansas get skipped over.
Call me homer or whatever, but I’d bet my next year’s salary on that statement.
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Is MU a candidate for PAC10?
I’ve never heard them in that discussion, except maybe from MU fans
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 11, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Me neither, just something BillyZoom mentioned
so I replied.
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i don't think they want to go to the PAC-10
i think it would be great for us if it happens. it may not happen immediately, who knows, but i think that would be the best place for us. i see zero chance that the Big XII stays intact, there’s way too much distrust at this point.
our best hope is that one of the Texas schools goes elsewhere, and who knows, maybe the PAC-10 says no to Texas Tech? at this point, the PAC-10 could just start picking off schools that it wants, waiting for Texas.
perhaps (and I know this is wishful thiniking) but let’s say that the PAC-10 invites us next week because I would have to assume we’re more attractive than Tech. At some point, the Longhorns would be out of options and be forced to join a conference, lest they be left out in the cold. this could shift all the leverage to the remaining conferences. Texas does not want to go to the SEC, the Big Ten is done expanding for a while apparently…where would Texas go?
we seem to be near a tipping point where Texas itself could be running out of options.
BOOM YOSTED!
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Jun 11, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Independent.
It wants its own network. It doesn’t need a conference in football. Now other sports could be an issue…
by play4'ships on Jun 12, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Missouri is way down the list
But is on a list, in case another school drops out or refuses an invite. There are a lot of people that want Utah, but I’d say Kansas is now a strong candidate if A&M bolts for to the SEC
There's an article I read tonight...
forgot where but it says that if A&M goes to the SEC, the PAC-10 will look at Kansas over Utah…also read that no MWC teams will moved as Boise State was promised that no one would leave the conference but in this mess who knows
Is starting to sound like that out of A&M and KU...
One will end up in the SEC, the other in the Pac 16. Texas A&M gets their choice, and KU gets the other. Both have their benefits, but due to the fact that the recruits in the state of Florida are freaks, UK would make for a great rival, and we will finally get some love from the East Coast, would prefer the SEC. Think traveling distance is irrevelant, because KU is in the certain of the USA, so we would be traveling really fair to get to either Washington or Florida, and the fact that our division opponents would not be that far away, traveling distance is really irrelevant.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd take either one at this point
I’d take either of those over the big east
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Jun 12, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree, however we need a priority list.
1. Save the Big XII from extinction.
2. Join the SEC.
3. Join the Pac 16.
4. Join the Big 1×.
5. Join the ACC.
6. Join the MWC, if they plan becoming a Super Conference.
7. Join the Big East, that conference will be dead in a few years, but at least they are not a mid major in basketball, and gives us more time to find a permanent home before they disband also.
8. If worse comes to worse, might as well go the Notre Dame route.
9. There are no more options. Under no circumstances do we become a mid-major school.
Also, bring K-State along if we can, if we can’t, push them off of our tailcoats.
R.I.P. Derrick Thomas. The Chiefs and the World have never been the same since your untimely death.
by ChiefsFan90s on Jun 12, 2010 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd switch numbers
5 and 7. I don’t think the ACC wants us that badly, though I don’t think they’d refuse either.
And I doubt it would get to the level of 8, and we already have 9 open with that CUSA invitation.
by mikedrawjayhawk on Jun 12, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
The Texas politics in this whole deal are cracking me up. Check this out regarding Baylor and the MWC.
Despite success in nearly every sport but football, Baylor may not be so welcome in another MWC expansion. Some TCU officials and powerful alums remain irked over the way Baylor was included in the Big 12 after the breakup of the Southwest Conference. The Frogs were left out.
Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/06/11/2259257/with-eye-on-bcs-mountain-west.html#ixzz0qeUpR8lA
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Utah Rivals owner is reporting...
…that Texas A&M is out of Pac-10 expansion talks and Utah is in. He’s saying Monday is going to be a huge day for the University of Utah. fwiw…
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