In the End, What Does the Tournament Tell Us?
March Madness is arguably the single greatest sporting event in existence. The opportunity for 65 teams to make a 6 game run through three weekends in March and April to the coveted national title game and a chance at history. Since the NCAA moved to a tournament format, 35 teams have emerged from the varying formats crowned champions. Of those only 14 can claim multiple crowns.
Take it a step further and only 6 teams have won it multiple times since the field expanded to it's current format of 64. Kansans, Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Connecticut and Florida. No doubt the six game tourney run to win the title is one of the more trying and difficult tasks in college sports.
In basketball it's made more difficult by the youth movement at most elite programs due to the draw of the NBA for those truly elite level players.
So if the top schools are getting the top talent, and the top talent isn't sticking around all that often. What does the tournament tell us? Is it giving us the BEST team more often than not? Or, is it giving us a national champion the way fans of college basketball and sports in general want it?
First off a quick rundown of where the tournament has been. Prior to 1975 the tournament consisted of only one team per conference before it's expansion to the 32 team field which would usher in the inevitable 64 team era just ten years later.
- 1939–1950: eight teams
- 1951–1952: 16 teams
- 1953–1974: varied between 22 and 25 teams
- 1975–1978: 32 teams
- 1979: 40 teams
- 1980–1982: 48 teams
- 1983: 52 teams (four play-in games before the tournament)
- 1984: 53 teams (five play-in games before the tournament)
- 1985–2000: 64 teams
- 2001—present: 65 teams
In college football the sports world has been clamoring for a better way from nearly the first moments of the BCS. The mythical national championship that surrounded football wasn't solved it was only fine tuned to select the best teams and give those two the best shot. Whether those are truly the best two teams is always debatable.
The problem is, how can you take a 117 team sport and narrow it to just two that are so deserving of a shot at a national title?
In basketball obviously the same line of thinking should and does apply. There just isn't a way to take 300+ teams and say that just two are deserving and hence the 64 team tournament. Does it maybe go too far though? Rather than expanding the field and giving parity a chance to further water down a sport where the regular season is becoming increasingly more meaningless, should the field be narrowed giving the best all year long the chance to face off?
It's an interesting thought to look at college basketball through the eyes of a college football system. Since 1985 and the expansion to 64 teams the team that finished the regular season ranked #1 in the polls has only won the national title THREE times. From '49-'84 it happened 17 times, that's an average of nearly every other year where the regular season #1 matches up with the eventual national champion. Since the move to 64 teams that has shifted to 1 out of 8 times the two are one and the same. Is that the ratio sports fans want?
More teams have the opportunity, better teams have to sustain a high level for a longer period and less talented but possibly more experienced teams have the chance to come in and make waves over a six game stretch without proving it for the previous 4 months.
All that said it's hard to argue with the fact that 44% of the time the number 1 seed makes it to the Final Four. As a number one seed you have to feel good about those odds, but should they be better?
How would that number compare if the field were narrowed down to the top 16 or top 32 teams in the country. If you went with a BCS type formula for basketball rather than a committee selecting based on some unknown criteria?
No more resume comparisons in March, just a formula that lets you know where you stand from the beginning of January through the conference slate similar to the football formula. If there's work to be done, you know it. If you're sitting comfortably or on the fringe, you know it.
What this amounts to is what we all want to see from college football. The BCS is a problem, college basketball isn't, but could college basketball be improved with a move to somewhere in the middle?
If we use Kenpom as our de facto BCS formula and take the top 16 teams, the seeding looks like this.
#1's - Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, Syracuse
#2's - Ohio State, Baylor, West Virginia, Kansas State
#3's - Wisconsin, BYU, Maryland, Butler
#4's - Georgetown, Xavier, Cal, Purdue
Sweet 16 teams left out: Northern Iowa, Tennessee, Michigan State, Saint Mary's, Washington, Cornell.
That's a 10/16 success rate. Acceptable? Probably not, Michigan State made the Final Four, Tennessee looked the part of a contender but the other four probably didn't stand a realistic shot of making that run through six games anyway. Still you miss two that could have won the whole thing.
Let's make the jump to 32 teams.
#5's - Texas A&M, Texas, Missouri, Clemson
#6's - Villanova, Temple, Michigan State, Florida State
#7's - Utah St, Georgia Tech, Dayton, Tennessee
#8's - Northern Iowa, Washington, Pittsburgh, Minnesota
In this instance we cover 14 of the Sweet 16 teams leaving out just Cornell and St. Mary's. Does this skew the curve too much toward the big boys? Does this take away the opportunity for the little guy to fight his way into the tourney and if it does, do we care? Could Cornell or St. Mary's realistically ever win the tourney? And if not, does it matter if they are there? Do we want them taking out legitimate contenders for the sake of a great first weekend, at the expense of a great finish?
Obviously part of what makes March Madness and college basketball so great is the first weekend of the tournament. The upsets, the buzzer beaters, David taking down Goliath.
So where does college basketball belong? Giving full disclosure my opinion lies in this thing remaining right where it's at, 64 teams. As a Kansas Jayhawk fan I probably benefit more from a smaller field, but that would be a slap in the face to UTEP, Rhode Island and now Northern Iowa all who have upset my own Jayhawks from a spot that would only exist in the field of 64.
As it stands today it appears the one and only option in the minds of the NCAA however is expansion. Most fans tend to side on the fact that things should remain the same. But, has anyone asked the question of whether it's gotten too big?
College basketball fans across the country may have seen what they wanted when Northern Iowa beat Kansas, when Ohio beat Georgetown or when Saint Mary's beat Villanova. On the other hand did we get what we wanted to see on Saturday with Butler vs. Michigan State or Duke vs. West Virginia? And do we get to see college basketballs best when Butler faces Duke tonight for the title?
Some argue yes, some would say absolutely not. In the end we'll judge the quality of the competition by the quality of the contest. It still begs the question of whether or not college basketball had better to offer.
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Great post
I’ve thought for a while that the present set-up of the tournament in a way makes the regular season less important. That what is pretty cool about college football, every game is huge. Basketball? Meh. I mean apart from first round games, what is really the BIG difference between being a top 4 seed. A one plays a 4 and a 2 plays a 3 in the sweet 16 anyway, if seeding holds. KU could have lost 5 more games this season, been in KState’s position, and had an easier path to the final 4 seed wise.
I love the tournament but sometimes I think its just a little too crazy…if that makes sense
Shit happens when you win championships
i love the excitement
of how its set up now. if a team shows up to win 6 in a row, then any team can win. that’s like the nfl. that’s more fun than the best team winning every year like the nba.
One thing that it would do (using KenPom like a BCS with fewer tourney teams)
is emphasize a season-long performance, much like football. In football you can’t drop a game anywhere if you want to finish on top. In basketball all that matters is play well enough to make the 64 and finish the season on an upswing—but that won’t cut it in football.
And that’s a good thing. But losing the smaller, upstart schools would be a bigger negative (as you say).
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "Yes, comets! The icebergs of the sky. By jackknifing from one to the next at breakneck speed, we might just get some kinda gravity boost". and also "Kif old friend, I don't know which disgusts me more. Your cowardice or your stupidity! We'll simply set a new course for that empty region over there. Near that black-ish hole-ish thing."
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 5, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
I'm so over the tournament.
Let’s just crown Duke and get it over with.
Seriously, think about it – they were quite possibly the worst 1-seed ever in the history of the tournament. They’re going to win the tournament.
Time to do a CBB Perfect Storm.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
I would have taken Duke’s bracket in a heartbeat:
Villanova
Baylor
Purdue
Texas A&M
Notre Dame
Richmond
California
Louisville
St. Mary’s
Old Dominion
Utah State
Siena
Sam Houston State
Robert Morris
Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Compared to this:
Ohio State
Georgetown
Maryland
Michigan State
Tennessee
Oklahoma State
UNLV
Northern Iowa
Georgia Tech
San Diego State
New Mexico State
Houston
Ohio
California-Santa Barbara
Lehigh
Worst 1-seed ever is pretty rough.
Don’t forget Pomeroy has loved them all year.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
go back and look at my East preview...
after looking into Duke and doing some research…I was sold. They’re good. As efficient and experienced as anyone in the field.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Yeah.
I wouldn’t even say they were the worst Number One seed this year, really.
They were incredibly efficient all year. The way they played Saturday night, nobody in the country was going to beat them. Just wasn’t gonna happen.
I think that if them and Kentucky played 10 times, they’d win at least 6. And I think they’d go .500 against us and ’Cuse.
It isn’t all based on KenPom numbers, either. They look good. Great. They play solid D, they rebound really well and they are incredibly efficient on offense.
Here's a couple of ideas I have.
1. Expand the tournament to 68 teams. Having one play-in game is silly- it’s assymetrical, the game is always in Dayton for some reason, it’s on another channel…it just doesn’t seem like the tournament. Having four play-in games instead of one that Tuesday night, all on CBS, would be better.
But CBS would never want to give up a prime-time for such crap games, you say? That brings me to:
2. Play-in games should be for the #10 seed, not the #16. This way, we can guarantee that every conference champion doesn’t have to play in an opening-round game, a nice way to further the importance of conference play. Every year, the “bubble” situation seems to be something like this in the end: eight or so teams with 20-22 wins from big conferences fighting for four or five available spots.
So now, we let those mid-level BCS teams play it off for those final at-large bids. The games would feature teams people have heard of and would be closely matched- exactly the kind of thing CBS wants to televise. I know I’d want to watch. Sure, teams (and Dickie V) would still bitch about not making it, but that’s always going to happen.
3. This idea might be even more radical, and may be impossible to do with travel plans, etc. But essentially, the committee brackets #2-16 seeds and announces the top four. Then, the four #1 seeds have 30 minutes to pick which bracket they want to use in the order of their finish. This year, KU was the overall #1 seed, so they could have chosen Duke’s bracket.
Not only does this add that much more intrigue into the battle for 1-seeds, but it would give their opponents that much more motivation- “Kansas picked us because they think we suck! We got something coming for them!” The process would have to be done quickly so that brackets can be finalized, but wouldn’t it be awesome? Could you imagine what that half hour would be like here on RCT- KenPom sheets flying everywhere, Warden’s calculator catching on fire…
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Apr 5, 2010 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
3 would be cool
But the whole point of the seeding committee is to rank the 4 one seeds to easier, less easy, etc, etc brackets.
And yeah that would def put a big bullseye on a team’s back. Be interesting though. I think in the end though, coaches may be more inclined to choose a location that is closer to the team for fan support rather than who is in the bracket, especially since the tourney is kind of a crap shoot and a 3 seed Georgetown can lose to a 14 seed Ohio
Shit happens when you win championships
"What does the tournament tell us?"
My answer to that is kind of a depressing one. As college hoops have become increasingly physical, it seems like the best strategy at this point is to just throw up something at the rim, fight to the death every play to try to get the offensive rebound or a tap-in. I’ve been appalled at the lack of fundamental skill on display at this Final Four. Two guys on Butler can shoot right now, and they’re 40 minutes from the national championship. There’s something seriously wrong with that, IMO.
The sport needs to clamp down on the style of play like they’ve done in the NBA, in my opinion. I have no problem at all with great defense, and I don’t need every game in the nineties. But I think a lot of what we’re seeing now isn’t so much great defense as it is just bad offense. This isn’t sumo wrestling or rugby- this is basketball. Every team should be able to put at least 3 guys on the floor with good jumpshots without worrying about whether they’ll end up with concussions, shoulder injuries, etc.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Apr 5, 2010 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
Great point.
As college hoops have become increasingly physical, it seems like the best strategy at this point is to just throw up something at the rim, fight to the death every play to try to get the offensive rebound or a tap-in.
Though I disagree in your 2nd paragraph about the bad offense. Teams that score well are teams that can light it up from behind the 3 pt line, the hold and tackle defense doesn’t have much of an effect on that.
Try to catch a game from the early 90’s on ESPN Classic sometime (everyone), it’s amazing how physical the game is compared to that.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
damn it...this was a reply to KGRTC.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

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