Looking back at the Draft
After a weekend that saw three Jayhawks selected by NFL teams in one of the deepest drafts in recent memory, what's the prognosis? Kerry Meier to the Falcons, Darrell Stuckey to the Chargers and Dezmon Briscoe to the Bengals.
Sometimes situation is the biggest factor as to whether a 4th-7th round pick is going to be successful in the league. These aren't the superstars, they aren't expected to be big impact players immediately. What they do is provide depth, they make up the bones of an organization and hopefully you find a few long term starters and maybe some sleepers in the mix as well.
With that in mind how do the three Jayhawks fit? Are they in the right situation, or are they destined to get lost in the shuffle? Being objective is always hard to do when talking about your team and players that were such a big part of making up your team. Today we'll do our best as we breakdown the situation and thoughts from the other perspective in the draft, the perspective of the team doing the drafting.
Darrell Stuckey - 4th Round, San Diego Chargers
In the fourth round the San Diego Chargers drafted Stuckey with a pretty clear goal of providing another option at the strong safety position. Stuckey is viewed by Kansas fans as an excellent value this late but in some instances the belief isn't necessarily reciprocated.
Don’t expect him to make much impact beyond special teams.
He was an impact player for Kansas. However, it seems like we already have a similar player in Ellison. At least he should play on ST, and can provide some competition to better Ellison, Weddle and co.
On the other hand, some are pretty excited to see the Chargers successfully land this type of player so late.
Stuckey was one of the closest things to a coverage safety in this whole draft. Probably in the top 5.
I think Stuckey is our future SS. He’s a superior athlete compared to Ellison and I think he has just as much football intelligence.
I love that AJ has brought in more guys of not just character, but leaders. It’s what the team has been missing in our silly playoff losses.
With mixed reviews from the fanbase, what's the situation look like in terms of depth? At the moment the strong safety spot has two players on the Chargers roster at their disposal. Steve Gregory and Kevin Ellison.
Gregory is coming off a 2009 where he started in 6 games and played in 16 for the chargers. He's a fifth year man out of Syracuse, but the Chargers would probably prefer him as a special teams player and depth factor more than a guy they have to rely on over the top.
Ellison is probably where the competition lies. Ellison is entering just his second year after the Chargers picked him up in the sixth round of last years draft. He started in 9 games for San Diego in 2009 but it's viewed as a position by committee by most as neither Gregory or Ellison appear capable of playing every down at the spot.
Prognosis: Good spot for Stuckey, the opportunity will be there from day one to earn a starting spot with the Chargers and be THE guy at strong safety. What the chargers need is someone that can continue to provide the emphasis they are looking for in run support, plus someone who can provide some over the top coverage help. Stuckey isn't GREAT in coverage but he's not a bad option either. He covers the field well, is a smart football player and in this situation with a solid corps of corners, he could be a perfect fit for a productive start to his NFL career.
Early Opportunity grade: A-
Kerry Meier - 5th Round, Atlanta Falcons
No surprise that the quiet but very productive quarterback turned receiver didn't necessarily draw instant rave reviews from the Falcons fanbase on draft day.
I still wonder why we took the second best receiver on the team
He’s a 6"2 white guy who runs a 4.7 40. Kinda caps off our draft.
I love how everyone says—-oh good pick for 5th round. But in this draft we still have 2nd/3rd round talent available in the 5th Round and we taking players that are 6th to undrafted talent.
It wasn't all bad though as a few saw a little bit of a Falcon fan favorite in Meier.
He looks like a baller. He has that Gonzo(Tony Gonzalez) sixth sense about where the seam is in every zone, he’s good pretty good speed, he catches the ball in double
He seems to be our Eric Decker, A Gonzalez (sure hands) Finneran (tall leaping catch) hybrid guy.
Big, smart, and sure-handed, not bad for the fifth round.
So where does he fit? Well the Falcons fanbase refers to Brian Finneran quite often when looking at the potential of Meier. And, almost without fail, they fully expect that Finneran won't be going anywhere or giving up his spot very easily after a slow down in 2009.
Either way Meier is viewed as a #3 or slot guy at best. He's got size and ability to play over the middle and that's where he'll have to earn his spot with Atlanta.
Prognosis: The Falcons are by no means overly deep at the wideout spot. They have bodies but none really jump off the page as high quality depth. With that in mind Meier could very well be in a good position to make a play down the line. I'm not sure if it's this year or not as the adjustment might take some time. Still it's believed there are plenty of balls to go around in Atlanta right now and perhaps Meier can be a situational type guy early on. I think it's a good fit, an organization that's improving and a coaching staff that will respect Meier's work ethic and coachability a great deal.
Early Opportunity Grade: C+
Dezmon Briscoe - 6th Round, Bengals
Call it the Roethlisburger affect if you'd like. This years NFL draft seemed to place a high value on character more than any I've watched before. With that in mind, Briscoe slipped quite a bit and ironically it was the Bengals that eventually pulled the trigger.
The Bengals fan perspective was almost entirely positive, although they also realize that the Bengals made plenty of moves prior to this in order to bolster wide receiver depth. In fact, by the time the Bengals picked up Briscoe, it almost wasn't an immediate need.
I love this pick, I hope he plays well enough to find a spot on the team.
Man from what I've seen, this guy gives 100% on every play, I am glad that he is in Bengal stripes now. The only problem now is we have 10 wr's and only room for 4??
Briscoe is the steal of the draft in the 6th round NFL.com ranked him as the 5th best WR
I will be shocked if Briscoe dosent make the team. He brings what housh did when he was here. He has the talent and the skills to be a solid number 2 receiver in the league. With Ocho at 32, and Bryant an injury risk i see Briscoe and Simpson the only other 2 receivers with the size and ability the Bengals want on the outside.
Prognosis: So with 10 receivers and 5 or 6 spots likely on the opening day roster, will Briscoe make the team? Right now you have to assume that Chad Ochocinco and Antonio Bryant are locks for the roster, Shipley as a 3rd rounder should be there as well.
The questions creep in after that. The Bengals are two years removed from drafting Andre Caldwell and Jerome Simpson at the spot and just one year removed from drafting Quan Crosby. But, you don't sign a high dollar free agent wide receiver and draft two more if you are happy with what you have.
There's a good chance Briscoe can find his way onto the roster at the 4th-6th spot come opening day with Caldwell and Crosby the favorites to be the other two in that mix. Any injuries or lack of production and Briscoe could manage some minutes but it's more likely that he is a guy that moves into the #2 or #3 role in a year or two if all goes well. It's a logjam yes, but it's a logjam that has all the signs of freeing up in the near future and when it frees up, it looks as if Briscoe is someone they want to have in waiting.
Early opportunity grade: C
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Good prognosis on all of the players!
Stuckey no doubt is a good fit for San Diego and I have no doubt in my mind that Briscoe will make that team. If he somehow doesn’t, he will easily find another team that could use him.
Nice work.
Do we know if anybody else besides Thornton and Sharp have been contacted by NFL teams? It would be nice to see some analysis like this on them, as well.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Apr 28, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
To my knowledge just Thornton and Sharp...
I do think Kayl Anderson might get a call at some point but I’m not holding my breath on Reesing. Sounds like CFL, AFL or bust with him. I’ll see what I can come up with.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
yea onyegbule and sharp
only have a rookie tryout that i believe is this weekend while thorton has been invited to camp and has a contract waiting on him if he were to make the team
by rockchalks7 on Apr 28, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
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nice article… seeing how SD kinda thin at SS i’d give Stuck an A+ for the situation.. i kinda expect him to start sometime this year… Hate that he’s gonna be blowin my chiefs up but gotta root for him… also think Dez will make the team but might no see many snaps with all the Wide outs Cincy has… who know though… congrats and good luck to all these guys
One thing that Dez has going for him:
motivation.
He thought he should be a 2nd round pick.
Now, he can either use that motivation to prove everyone wrong.
Or
He can sulk and go out and blow any signing bonus on hookers and coke.
There simply is no substitute for experience.
You can't give him options like that
Not when the second option sounds like so much fun!
by MitchumMan on Apr 28, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jake Sharp
One thing I thought was interesting about Sharp is that he is bigger, stronger, and faster than McCluster, the Chiefs’ first 2nd round pick. Obviously he didn’t put up the same kind of numbers, and has had some injury concerns. But it’s strange to me that Sharp never got invited to the Combine or was ever really considered for a draft pick.
It’s really too bad he never really got that shot to be the feature back for an entire healthy season- maybe he would have gone up the draft boards if he could.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Apr 28, 2010 4:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
there were several articles..
over the past week discussing Sharps biggest disadvantage in terms of a shot in the NFL. They were primarily relating to Toby Gerhart, but I’m sure you can figure out what they have in common.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I see Meier as a 4th WR
He’s not really going to be a #2, and he doesn’t have that + quickness that an NFL slot needs. Unless he’s in an offense that moves him around, in and out of the backfield a la Dallas Clark, that leaves a spot at the 4th WR. Which isn’t that bad, all things considered, and it emphasizes his strengths, such as being a hot read on 3rd down blitzes, operating inside against a zone where he can pick up 8 to 10 yards, running seam routes at/past the safties, and sure hands for passing downs that matter.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 28, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
#3 or slot guy at best
I agree that he won’t be a two, but he could play inside. FInneran is the comparison that Falcon fans are drawing and it makes a lot of sense. Slants and outs.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
i should have clarified
I guess I think of the slot guy as the #3 and the next guy as #4, which isn’t always true. So he could be the #3, non-slot receiver, who could also backup the #1, #2, and slot receivers. And maybe Meier can play the slot well—I wouldn’t have thought Finneran could be a good slot receiver, but it seems to work for him. I think of the modern NFL slot as being ultra-quick first and all other qualities next, but that’s just my impression.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 28, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
NFL teams use slot guys differently
Some use small fast guys that they can throw screens and etc too, or super fast guys who draw a safety, OLB and burn them deep.
Others use bigger guys who work the zone, use their size and hands and keep the chains moving. For example the Packers use Jordy Nelson and James Jones – Fast deep threat guys, while the Colts or Texans will line up Dallas Clark or Owen Daniels. Depends on the offense I guess
Shit happens when you win championships
you're probably right...
that’s definitely the most common incarnation of the slot at this point.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I think all the comments made about the players are very accurate
No better way to size up the players, looking at the glass half full or empty. I will say this:
DStuck: This dude is a beast on long balls. He can get to a WR fast and prevent a big gain which was huge for us and will be huge for the Bolts. He is a good tackler, intelligent, etc. Looking at what the Charges have at SS, I would be surprised if he isn’t at least on the field half the team’s snaps if not starting by week 10. If an injury ahead of him happens, he could start all year as a rook.
Meier: The key to Kerry is versatility. A creative OC will find ways to work in a trick play or two (which KU executed REALLY well throughout his career), he can move the chains, he is tough, smart, etc. Plus if he could bulk up 10 more pounds of muscle and keep his speed (or even get faster) you got a lot to work with there athletically. Maybe even in the Wildcat. I do agree its interesting he went before Briscoe, but with all the intangibles and ways you can use Kerry, I think it was a good pick in for the fifth round.
Briscoe: Not sure what to think. He should have gone two rounds earlier. I think its almost bad he got drafted overall. Had he slid out (compared to the 6th round pick) he could have signed with ANYONE, and found a team that really needed help at WR (hmm like the Chefs for example). I’m not huge on him going to the Bengals but hopefully he is hungry and earns a roster spot and gets the chance to prove something. He will play with a good QB and in an established O so well see
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