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Market Driven?

You get what you pay for, or so the saying goes.  In order to land high quality talent in the college coaching ranks, the arms race is increasing exponentially in terms of salary, buyouts, facility upgrades etc. 

The Kansas Jayhawks are no exception.  With the hiring of Turner Gill the Jayhawks committed to paying the fifth highest dollar amount in the Big 12 conference.  Gill's contract is for 5 years and a total compensation of $10 million dollars.  That breaks down to a $229,900 in base salary and the additional 1.77 million in annual media payouts.  The contract also includes a retention bonus every year of 100k, and the standard incentive bonuses as is customary in coaching contracts today.  

Another interesting piece, a minimal buyout at just 200k.  If Gill wants to leave or another offer comes calling, it won't be difficult to put that together.  This the contract for a coach with a resume that doesn't necessarily jump off the page.  An overall record as a head coach of 20-30 in five seasons with Buffalo including one MAC title and an 0-1 record in bowls.

Now to be fair, Buffalo was the bottom of the barrel in terms of college football prior to Gill and the name Turner Gill has popped up nearly every year in connection with major college coaching jobs.  The question is, how does the contract compare.  Taking Gill's resume in account and the Kansas program, was it a wise move? 

There were 22 coaching changes in division one football following the 2009 season.  That's 22 coaches out and 22 new contracts in.  10 of those were BCS conference changes.  So what's the anatomy of the coaching change look like?  From experience to contract how does Turner Gill compare with "market value" at the time of his hire?

Star-divide

To start, how about a quick rundown of the changes at hand.

COACHING CHANGES FOR 2010 SEASON
TEAM
OUT
IN
Akron
J.D. Brookhart
Rob Ianello
Buffalo
Turner Gill
Jeff Quinn
Central Michigan
Butch Jones
Dan Enos
Cincinnati
Brian Kelly
Butch Jones
East Carolina
Skip Holtz
Ruffin McNeill
Florida State
Bobby Bowden
*-Jimbo Fisher
Kansas
Mark Mangino
Turner Gill
Kentucky
Rich Brooks
*-Joker Phillips
Louisiana Tech
Derek Dooley
Sonny Dykes
Louisiana-Monroe
Charlie Weatherbie
Todd Berry
Louisville
Steve Kragthorpe
Charlie Strong
Marshall
Mark Snyder
John "Doc" Holliday
Memphis
Tommy West
Larry Porter
Notre Dame
Charlie Weis
Brian Kelly
San Jose State
Dick Tomey
Mike MacIntyre
Tennessee
Lane Kiffin
Derek Dooley
Texas Tech
Mike Leach
Tommy Tuberville
UNLV
Mike Sanford
Bobby Hauck
USC
Pete Carroll
Lane Kiffin
USF
Jim Leavitt
Skip Holtz
Virginia
Al Groh
Mike London
Western Kentucky
David Elson
Willie Taggart

 

Now let's narrow that down to BCS jobs and look at the resumes and contracts of Butch Jones, Skip Holtz, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, Brian Kelly, Mike London, Tommy Tubberville, Charlie Strong, Joker Phillips and Jimbo Fisher

Butch Jones

Kicking off the list is Butch Jones.  Jones takes over at Cincinnati following the departure of Brian Kelly to the golden domers.  Jones arrives after a three year stint as the head coach at Central Michigan.  Central Michigan hails from the same conference as Buffalo, but no doubt has a little more tradition and an NFL quarterback in Dan Lefevour.  Overall record for Jones was 27-13 with two MAC titles.  The only one he didn't win, was won by Turner Gill in '08. 

Contract details for Jones breakdown to 5 years at a base salary of $1 million per year with guarenteed increases of 50k per year and a potential 200k-300k in annual incentives.  The University has positioned Jones to be well compensated in the Big East and for what some would consider a more proven coach, a contract driven more on success and incentives.

My two cents on this one however is this, we didn't want to be in this category.  Being the low end of range is not a good thing and doesn't show the commitment that Kansas needed to make to football.

Skip Holtz

Holtz was another rumored candidate for the Jayhawks post due to his previous connections to Lew Perkins.  Holtz heads to South Florida to take over after a similar firing to the Mangino scenario.  Hotlz boasts an impressive resume with experience under some of the greats of college football coaching.  His resume as a head man includes a 72-50 overall record, a 1-4 bowl record and two Conference USA championships. 

Compensation for Holtz breaks down to a 5 year deal with 9.1 in guaranteed money. The compensation starts at 1.7, increasing annually to 2 million in his final year.  Buyout to get Holtz out of USF, $1 Million.   Again, on paper a strong resume and a fairly comparable contract. 

Tommy Tuberville

The last name that was connected to the Kansas job is that of Tommy Tuberville.  Tuberville openly campaigned for consideration but in the end found his way to Lubbock Texas and a fellow Big 12 program in Texas Tech.  Tuberville's 110-60 record to go along with a 6-3 bowl record, 1 SEC championship and 5 SEC divisional titles ranked among the best resumes on the market this year. 

Tuberville's contract amounts to a guarenteed compensation starting at 1.5 million and increasing annually to a 2 million by 2014.  In addition Tuberville has a variety of incentive based bonuses available to increase his compensation.  Still the Tuberville contract is a far cry from the five year  12.7 million Mike Leach was making and it's very similar to the compensation that Turner Gill will receive at Kansas.  Again though, Gill's upfront guarantee is at a higher level which is somewhat surprising when you consider the two resumes.

Derek Dooley

Another interesting comparison is Derek Dooley who left Louisiana Tech for Tennessee.  No doubt the Vols program is on the top tier in terms of spending and the expectation in Knoxville is to get it done on the football field regardless the cost.  Dooley, like Jones, has only three years of coaching experience at a lower level school.  Like Gill he doesn't boast a winning record.  Also similar to Gill however, the program at LaTech is perceived to be in a much better position for having had Dooley around.

Compensation at TENNESSEE, 6 years starting at 1.8 million per year increasing annually to a total of 2.3 million by year six.  Right on par with Gill, but arguably a stronger program and more attractive job.  Another big difference, a monstrous buyout.  It's pretty clear that UT isn't interested in becoming a stepping stone ever again with a buyout of 4 million if Dooley departs prior to the completion of the 2012 season.  At the same time UT certainly didn't do themselves any favors in that regard as they will owe 5 million should they choose to get rid of Dooley prior to the completion of the 2013 season. 

Interesting contract on more than a few fronts here.  The Vols seemed to have done some right and some wrong, but ultimately we're comparing this to the contract granted to Turner Gill.  Tough call?

Mike London

The last coach making a move to a new head post with head coaching experience is Mike London.  London comes from a subdivisional team in the Richmond Spiders.  In his time there however, London was very successful.  24-5 overall record, the 2008 National Coach of the Year in his division.  A short two year tenure, but a successful one. 

Contract for London, 1.7 million annually, 300k base, remainder in media responsibilities etc.  London's contract is said to be heavy on incentives as is customary these days.  Again, lower guarantee than Gill, same experience?  Did the Jayhawks pay too much?  And does it matter?

Jimbo Fisher, Joker Phillips, Charlie Strong

A different scenario altogether for these three as they all come from coordinator posts.  For comparisons sake though, Strong will receive 1.6 with a buyout beginning at 1 million and sliding downward over the five year span to just 200k in the final year.

Jimbo Fisher, 5 years at a total compensation of 9 million at Florida State.  That amounts to 1.8 per year, likely starting lower than that and sliding on a scale toward a higher amount.  Interestingly Florida State fans were beside themselves at this dollar amount.  Again, Gill will make 2 million, should we be concerned?

Joker Phillips contract details amount to $1.7 million per year in total compensation, right on par with the others.

Brian Kelly and Lane Kiffin

An interesting pair.  Both are going to big money schools and both are going to be paid substantially more at programs where competing for the national title is the expectation.  Brian Kelly has earned it, Lane Kiffin might be the most overrated person on the planet period.  Maybe he proves me wrong.  Either way, comparing Gill to one of these two is like apples to oranges and it's really not a fair take.

After reviewing all 10, here's a quick snapshot of to look back.  I'm leaving incentives out of the high level snapshot because everyone has them and they are all pretty similar.  The Big 12 and SEC schools do skew a little higher than the Big East, but they're comparable.

Coach Division 1 Record Guaranteed per year comp Buyout
Turner Gill 20-30 $2 Million 200K
Butch Jones 27-13 $1 Million (50K/year increase) $1.7 Mil
Skip Holtz 72-50 $1.7 Million(100K/year increase) $1 Mil
Tommy Tuberville 110-60 $1.5 Million(100K/year increase) ?
Derek Dooley 17-20 $1.8 Million(100K/year increase) $4 Mil
Mike London None $1.7 Million ?
Jimbo Fisher None $1.85 Million ?
Joker Phillips None $1.7 Million ?
Charlie Strong None $1.6 Million $1 Mil


Back to Kansas and Gill

So how do the Jayhawks compare?  It would certainly appear that the Jayhawks paid on the high end for a coach this offseason.   On the low end Butch Jones is commanding $1 million but the more appropriate range seems to be in the $1.5-$2 million dollar range.  Gill is at the top of that range, this for a coach that still has some work to do in terms of proving himself.  

On the back end of the contract the incentives are comparable, but another big concern for some is the fact that the buyout should Gill want to leave or another school come calling is extremely lax should Gill. 

To be clear, this is in no way an indictment on Gill.  Coach Gill the person appears to be a homerun.  Gill as a coach has brought a renewed energy to a group of players beaten to the ground behind the scenes.  Across the board the Jayhawks are practicing with a renewed excitement this spring and at the moment optimism is the name of the game when looking ahead.

However, it's been tossed out here at RCT before that in this time where fiscal responsibility is becoming increasingly important, did Kansas pay too much. We're fortunate at Kansas that it might never be an issue.  Under Lew Perkins the athletic budget has exploded and paying top dollar isn't necessarily a concern.  At this time Kansas isn't among the increasing number of schools being handcuffed by coaching contracts and accepting mediocrity.  That's a GREAT thing.

The question is, could Lew have accomplished the same hire closer to the market value for his resume?  Or is the $2 million the right message to send?  The message being that Kansas is serious about football.  

The other question, could Lew Perkins have made the contract more binding securing Turner Gill for the Jayhawks in the event of the success we are all hoping for?   As it stands now, there is little standing in the way of another school moving in and Turner Gill moving out. 

For what it's worth Coach Gill appears to be a very genuine person and it's possible he did an excellent job convincing Lew that Kansas was where he wanted to be minus an absolutely HUGE opportunity(Florida, USC, etc.).  If that's the case, perhaps Lew felt it a gesture of good will to grant such conditions to Coach Gill.  Show faith and confidence and you shall be rewarded?  Maybe.

It's an interesting question, an interesting comparison.  And while I again want to stress that I'm 100% in support of Coach Gill, given the history of Kansas football it's only natural to raise a bit of an eyebrow at the potential pitfalls in the contract.

The Mark Mangino situation was handled poorly, but ultimately it was necessary.  As a Jayhawk fan first and foremost regardless of who the coach is, I just hope Lew Perkins doesn't let one demoralizing public relations issue turn into a second.  Just some food for thought at the beginning of a long "off" season.

 

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The question is, could Lew have accomplished the same hire closer to the market value for his resume? Or is the $2 million the right message to send? The message being that Kansas is serious about football.

I think it’s the right message to send: We’re committed to football and we’re spending money like we are.

by I need more Esteban on Apr 13, 2010 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I lean toward this end myself...

and as I mentioned we’re fortunate that we can do this with our AD budget.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly my thoughts

Are they paying Gill $2 mil or are they paying the Head Football Coach $2 mil? They did come down from what they were paying Mangino and still send the message loud and clear to College Football America that KS intends on being a player. And with the right coach, i.e., Gill’s charm so far, he will be able to an asset in raising the funds to help cover his compensation. I will never say never on whether a coach will stay or not, but I think this helps lay the groundwork for future football commitments. Remember when Roy left for UNC, he got a big payday comparable to his compensation at KU.

by K-Foz on Apr 14, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is where I disagree.

You want to send a message loud and clear to College Football America? Spend the funds on something long-lasting….like new faciltiies, a new stadium, etc.

We did that. That message has been sent.

There was absolutely zero reason remaining to quadruple a guys salary. Getting the hell out of Canada, getting into a premier BCS D1 conference, and getting almost all new facilities should have been incentive enough. And if that wasn’t incentive enough, a commitment to paying for quality assistants should have been the thing to take it over the top.

Instead, we threw money around like David Duchovny in the red-light district in Bangkok.

Then….there’s this thought: why do we care what College Football America thinks? They’ll know were serious about football when we’re back in a BCS bowl game. All it took the first time was a hard-working asshole coach, a bunch of 2 star players pissed off that they weren’t selected for a bowl game the previous year (despite being eligible), and 50 year old leaky, smelly facilities. We’ve come a long way since then!

I think way too much is being made of “sending a message”.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey now
All it took the first time was a hard-working asshole coach, a bunch of 2 star players pissed off that they weren’t selected for a bowl game the previous year (despite being eligible)

We had some three star players on the team too!

Thats an interesting point though. We haven’t looked as “hungry” since the Orange Bowl. Need to get that chip back on the old shoulder. Hopefully last season provided some fuel.


HELL YOU AINT BEEN HUNGRY SINCE YOU WON THAT BELT!

Shit happens when you win championships

by KU Grad 08 on Apr 14, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 on both counts...

The blue collar, underdog mentality seemed lost after ’07.

Although I’m not ready to pretend we can compete year in and year out based on a chip on our shoulder. A lot of things came together the right way for ‘07 to happen, we know now that obviously isn’t going to be the norm.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 14, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats true

But still, I think 2006 was what made it happen. All the blown leads late (some of them huge like the Baylor game), no bowl game, defense getting embarrassed, etc.

The team looked strait up PISSED come 2008. I mean teams we lost to the previous year (Toledo, Baylor) we slaughtered, and obviously beat all the other teams we had lost to too.

I’m hoping after what went down last year, the players (especially the defense) get that 2008 mindset back of “F*ck you, we don’t want to beat you we want to embarrass you.”

Shit happens when you win championships

by KU Grad 08 on Apr 14, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree whole-heartedly

Except I can guarantee you that Coach Gill won’t allow a “F*ck you, we don’t want to beat you we want to embarras you” mentality.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

he might...

he did play at Nebraska?

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 14, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

lolz

Shit happens when you win championships

by KU Grad 08 on Apr 14, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you think Gill's take is

on the “Rip his effing head off” meme?

Is back from being a KSU fan for a week. Now, onto SPRING FOOTBALL and OPENING DAY!!!

by labbadabba on Apr 14, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

oooh....

interesting…didn’t think about that. Guess we’ll see how much he’s won over the students.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 14, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is that he'll address the student section

in the school news paper or before the games on the big screen. I’m sure he wants KU to have some class instead of saying that chant. Although it is fun as heck to say during kickoff!

by MitchumMan on Apr 14, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only time will tell...

but so far it seems that the money was well worth it. Jayhawk Nation (for the most part) has a renewed energy. The players are excited, the fans are excited, and we’re getting looks from some very good recruits. Could we have saved a little bit of money? Probably. But I think Lew sent the right message. Could we have got the same coaching staff if it wasn’t apparent that KU was going to compensate well? Debatable, but I doubt it.

by MitchumMan on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to try to dig up more on the asst salaries...

I think that area is probably even more telling of the commitment Lew has made.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

From what I understand...

the assistants on Gill’s staff are already making more than Mangino’s assistants were.

by trueKUblue on Apr 13, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

wouldn't surprise me...

Gill brought in a nice group…that doesn’t happen without the right price no matter who you are.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah somebody did an article not long after the staff was in place

I thought it was this site but obviously not. Maybe KUSports.com

by MitchumMan on Apr 13, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!!! Rivet!!!

where the hell are ya. This one was for you pal.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

One thing Rivet will likely say and I'll agree with him on

is the very low buyout and for that salary, it should be higher.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

The lack of any sort of meat to the buyout clause is a HUGE red flag to me. Those gulping the Gill Kool-Aid will say it’s nothing……Gill will be here forever and create a dynasty. Those (few) who have been through a gazillion different coaches in the last 20 years will say: where’s the commitment to our choice for head coach? That choice is completely exposed – there is absolutely zero hedge in place.

While this high salary supposedly shows a commitment to football at KU, the lack of a buyout shows no commitment to the coach.

I can’t figure it out.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 13, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

No joke! I've been waiting on him as well.

He’s always bringing this subject up! Well, this and the similarities between Gill and Mason.

by MitchumMan on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't recall ever comparing Mason to Gill

Although they both like a good run game…..that’s the first similarity that comes to mind.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 13, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Audit and Tax time for this CPA

But luckily I took a break and read caught your well-done post. Good stuff Denver!

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 13, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're constant pressing of the issue made me breakdown...

and take a look finally.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are more glamourous (yeah, that's spelled wrong) topics!

The absolute key in the entire contract is the lack of any real buyout.

I would have like to see more incentives too, like Mangino had….extra $$ for season ticket sales, $$ for player graduation rates, etc.

Lew could have got really creative there. But didn’t.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 13, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed with comments above

Lew knew what he wanted, so he was willing to pay what he thought was appropriate, and it demonstrates to recruits/coaches/boosters that the program’s committed to spend.

Though I’ll throw some speculation out there (this is the internet, after all): is the high salary a bit of a dig at Mangino? Sort of a “Hey Mark, look what you missed out on because you acted like a little piss-ant bully”?

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 13, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

to your second point...

Mangino was making more when he was let go.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes, but Mangino had a better track record

this overpayment to Gill says “just think how much you could have made if you’d kept your behavior/ego in check” — again, 100% hypothetical and a bit far-fetched, but also not out of the realm of possibility

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Apr 13, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said before (and I'll say again):

Just because you can afford any car on the lot at the Mercedes dealership does NOT mean you shouldn’t negotiate a deal with the salesman.

At the end of the day we paid the 5th highest Big 12 footbal salary…..for a 10-30 MAC conference record of experience. Like it or not, fans in other conferences are saying WTF?!?! and laughing their asses off at us right now. Let’s hope we have the last laugh.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 13, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Jimbo Fisher thing was the one that stood out most....

I was doing the research and came across most of the info on the Florida State SB Nation site. Fisher is being paid less than Gill and the FSU fans were truthfully disturbed at the fact that they would pay so much for such an unproven commodity.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as things are on the up and up...

in the AD I think it’s ok. Still, I’d hate to get caught in a situation like CU where we spend spend spend and then can’t get out from under a contract at some point. Make no mistake, Hawkins wouldn’t be there if they could do something about it.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

We will hear from Rivet in

3…2…1…

Is back from being a KSU fan for a week. Now, onto SPRING FOOTBALL and OPENING DAY!!!

by labbadabba on Apr 13, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

hurmph

::waiting impatiently::

Shit happens when you win championships

by KU Grad 08 on Apr 13, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry....

I’m done for now, but I’ll come back in the morning…….

Damn phone is ringing……….

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 13, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gill's Twitter page -

" Saw a lot of good football today. And a Special Shot out to the Guest at Our practice today." Wrote yesterday.

Anybody know who was the “Guest” at the practice?

by MitchumMan on Apr 13, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

John Hadl

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

just as an FYI...

they have been having recruits up during the scrimmages on the weekend to observe practice and there will certainly be a bunch at the spring game. I’ve been getting a list going and will have something regarding the recruits in attendance for that one.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've noticed that...

from other articles. We should have a pretty good turnout (recruit wise) for the Spring Game. We need lots of support in the stands to maximize the experience for those recrutis too. So all of those out there reading this post need to do whatever they can to make the trip happen.

by MitchumMan on Apr 13, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Denver:

Do you know if Coach Gill has reached out to Coach Fambrough yet?

Coach Fambrough is a little rough around the edges and would almost certainly violate some of Gill’s policies during practice. But the guy is an important part of KU football history. It would be a shame to shun him.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

not sure...

and if you recall, Fambrough was a fairly outspoken supporter of Mangino. Not a big surprise there. I’m sure he’ll be around, but nothing yet.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 13, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The biggest question to me on the buyout

Why, why, why in the world would Lew Perkins NOT protect us from Nebraska?

Think about it. We know for a fact that Tom Osbourne is a GOD in NE. We know for a fact that Tom Osbourne is the single most influential person in the entire Nebraska Athletic Department. We know for a fact that Tom Osbourne is Turner Gill’s best friend, best man at his wedding, and mentor. We know for a fact that Tom Osbourne and Turner Gill talk to each other at least once a week.

We also know for a fact that Turner Gill’s success can only come at the demise of Nebraska football. The path to Big 12 championships will always go through Nebraska for KU.

IMHO, an easily identifiable, specific risk – Nebraska taking one of their own back home.

So why in the world wouldn’t Lew address that in the contract?!?! A $4 million Nebraska-specific buyout clause would have done the trick.

Instead, the “buyout” is a pathetic $200K. Shit, Tom Obsourne already has that check written and locked in his top drawer. $200K is probably a third of what Nebraska makes in parking revenues for its Spring Game.

It just does not make sense to ignore this risk. But it appears Lew did.

There simply is no substitute for experience.

by Rivethead on Apr 14, 2010 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree...

that’s a concern. And there really isn’t a way to argue around it for the simple fact as you state that…

Turner Gill’s success can only come at the demise of Nebraska football.

100% true. In an ideal world Gill makes Kansas competitive, we win a few North titles. Missouri isn’t going anywhere either. If Nebraska goes on a stretch where they don’t win for a while…a change gets made…they don’t tolerate it up there.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 14, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guess we have to hope that

Bo Pelini keeps winning…while we keep winning?

Shit happens when you win championships

by KU Grad 08 on Apr 14, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

But we could HOPE to get to the point where we are the UT/OU’s of the North. Both competing for BCS games even though only one goes to the Big12 championship game.

by MitchumMan on Apr 14, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

good point...

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen Kemp on Apr 14, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shit happens when you win championships

by KU Grad 08 on Apr 23, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Shit happens when you win championships

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HONOLULU - SEPTEMBER 2:  Ronald Johnson #83 of the University of Southern California Trojans runs in for a touchdown against Corey Nielsen #8 of the University of Hawaii Warriors during first half action at Aloha Stadium September 2 2010 in Honolulu Hawaii. (Photo by Kent Nishimura/Getty Images) +2 updates

Lane Kiffin Is Victorious In Debut, No. 14 USC Wins In A Shootout At Hawaii, 49-36

South Carolina quarterback Stephen Garcia, left, celebrates a first-quarter touchdown with South Carolina tackle Kyle Nunn, center, and South Carolina guard Rokevious Watkins, right, during the first half of their NCAA college football game against Southern Mississippi, Thursday, Sept. 2, 2010, at Williams-Brice Stadium, in Columbia, S.C.  (AP Photo/Brett Flashnick) link

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