Myth Busters: The Experience Factor?
The 2009-2010 Kansas Jayhawks were labeled the front runners almost as soon as the final buzzer against Michigan State a year prior. A team that had overachieved, developed great chemistry and continued to win in the Big 12 in '09 returned everyone and looked to be adding some seriously talented depth the following year. Experienced, battle tested and poised for a run. That was the conventional wisdom, but how true was that expectation? How experienced was Kansas compared to past champions and how experienced is Kansas compared to the best of the rest in college basketball this year?
By the end of the season the Jayhawks and Bill Self had narrowed down a bench to what appeared to be a solid 8 man rotation. That is Bill Self's philosophy and while in hindsight it may raise some questions, it's worked very well in the past.
Cole Aldrich, Marcus Morris and Markieff Morris made up an interior that included two sophomores and one junior who for all intents and purposes had played two full seasons after spot minutes on the national championship team his freshman year.
The backcourt consists of Tyshawn Taylor, Sherron Collins, Xavier Henry, Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed. One senior, two juniors, a sophomore and a freshman. When you talk about guys that really have an opportunity to play a major role, you are looking at one senior, a sophomore and a freshman. Like it or not Brady isn't a consistently top caliber player and while Tyrel played very well down the stretch, he's better served as a role player instead of someone to lean on.
That brings us to an eight man rotation featuring one senior, three juniors, three sophomores and a freshman. Half upperclassman and half underclassman. In this instance two of the upperclassman made up arguably the top talent, while the other two were probably on the lower end of the spectrum. That leaves the four underclassman as the Jayhawks meat in the middle and a pretty important piece to any success a team might experience. If we were going to improve significantly over '08-'09, it rested on the shoulders of the three sophs and one frosh. So how does this compare?
In '07-'08 the Jayhawks had a rotation up front that featured two seniors and a sophomore on the interior. The guard rotation consisted of one senior, two juniors and a freshman. That's 5 upperclassman and two underclassman. The bottom level of talent in that seven man rotation might be considered Russell Robinson and Sasha Kaun, both who were afforded opportunities to play at a professional level. Can the same be said for Brady and Tyrel? More experience, less depth and better overall talent.
What about North Carolina, the champion from a year ago. Three seniors, three juniors and a freshman. That same group had their tourney struggles in their early years, much like the Jayhawk team from '07-'08 experienced as underclassman.
We all know the story of Florida in the two prior championships. A junior heavy team that wins a title and all turn away the NBA dollars for another run as seniors.
The conventional thought is that in the early rounds experience doesn't act as a major indicator of success or failure. In the long term however it has been looked at and proven to be a major factor in ultimately winning the entire tourney. If that's the case, does when you lose even matter? If you're team isn't composed and experienced enough to win the whole thing or get to the Final Four an upset is an upset no matter if it happens in the 2nd round or the Elite 8.
Taking the next step to the teams still alive in the tourney still this year. Northern Iowa, the team that upset the Jayhawks plays primarily three seniors, three juniors and sophomore, with two freshman rounding out the minutes. Classic makeup for a mid major ready to pull an upset. The rest...
Michigan State; One senior, three juniors and three sophomores.
Tennesse; Three seniors, two juniors, a sophomore and a freshman.
Ohio State; Three seniors, four juniors and a sophomore all averaging double digit minutes.
Syracuse; Two seniors, two juniors, two sophomores and a freshman.
Butler; Two seniors, two juniors and three sophomores.
Xavier; One senior, three juniors, three sophomores and a freshman.
Kansas State; Three seniors, three juniors, a sophomore and three freshman contributing double digit minutes.
Saint Mary's; Two seniors, one junior, one sophomore and three freshman.
Baylor; Two seniors, two juniors, two sophomores and a freshman.
Purdue; Two seniors, two juniors, two sophomores and a freshman.
Duke; Three seniors, three juniors and three freshman.
West Virginia; Two seniors, two juniors and three sophomores.
Washington; One senior, three juniors, three sophomores and a freshman.
Cornell; Seven seniors, one junior and a sophomore.
Kentucky; Four freshman, three sophomores, a junior and a senior.
Now obviously John Calipari and Kentucky is a glaring exception to any theory here, but by the same token so it the level of talent being brought into that program. Calipari has a formula for success, and whatever means he's using to achieve that is working.
Beyond that however, there are only 3 teams in the sweet 16 with only one senior contributing minutes and three teams with the more than or the same amount of freshman and sophomores contributing double digit minutes as they have juniors and seniors.
It's not a cut and dry case but it would appear that experience counts for something. Kansas was often said to be experienced, but the numbers don't stack up to the majority of the 16 teams remaining in the tournament.
Brandon Rush, Mario Chalmers, Russell Robinson, Sasha Kaun, Darnell Jackson, Julian Wright and company all had the same struggle when they were young and inexperienced. The same scenario plays out every year in college basketball. This is a one year snapshot, but I'm curious what the overall trend is.
Relative to the field still fighting, Kansas wasn't as seasoned. The Jayhawks had talent, but talent alone doesn't win you championships. The Jayhawks were battle tested in the regular season, but they haven't had their backs against the wall in the tourney. Last year the Jayhawks were playing with house money when they lost to the Spartans. This season there was certainly a different level of expectation. Perhaps it was a factor, perhaps it wasn't, that's a question that's hard to answer but certainly interesting to speculate on.
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the experience of defeat
Clearly, while we probably will never replicate the combination of extreme talent, shocking defeat (Bradley) and luck (Rush tearing his ACL and coming back), we have some of those things coming back. I truly doubt that our returning players, the Morri, Little, Releford, ThRob, Withey, EJ and Tyshawn want to experience what they went through Saturday again.
Next season, we’ll have three seniors (Little, Reed and Morningstar), three juniors (Morri, TT) and four sophomores (Withey, Robinson, Johnson and Releford). And of those sophomores, because of redshirts, two could be considered juniors. We will also have one freshman who will possibly redshirt and another possible recruit. That’s a lot of experience.
When it comes to leadership, which of our guards is going to step forward? Is Taylor going to “buy in?” Is EJ going to progress the way that Cole did? Can Morningstar or Reed be considered “leaders?” I think, when it comes to the guards, the most important piece of the puzzle is Taylor. If he “buys in” and figures out the amount of work it takes, if he practices his three point shot until his arms feel like falling off, we’ll be very, very dangerous.
Morris
While I think Keegan is full of it regarding Taylor and replacing him with Selby and Lamb, the comments here from Marcus are fascinating: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/mar/22/next-year-title-possible/?mens_basketball
Asked about [laying on the court crying] afterward, Morris said disappointment brought him to the ground because he knew he had played his last game with teammates Sherron Collins and Cole Aldrich. "I feel like I grew up with them," Morris said. "I became so close to those guys, for them to leave, it’s going to be emotional. I feel like next year I’ve got to come back and get a championship for them."
Notice there’s no mention of being upset for Xavier?
Whatever recruits come to Kansas, they’ll enjoy playing with the friendly Morris twins, Marcus and Markieff, who arrived as lazy players and became hooked on self-improvement. "I’ll take a week or so off and just push harder than I did last summer," Marcus Morris said. "This is not going to happen next year. I’ll be a leader. I’ll push myself over the summer to be the best player I can be and win a national championship at KU."
And the Morri are going back to work. If they work as hard this summer as they did last, how freaking scary will they be next season?
Marcus...
made huge strides and you can tell he understands he has to go hard all the time. Markieff seemed like he started to “get it” about mid way through conference play. Either way, both have grown up a lot and are on their way to being successful college players.
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Yeah the improvements they made were insane
Especially Marcus. If they continue to work like that and improve and TRob and JDubs improve a lot our front court will be frightening.
If the Morri can just learn to stay out of foul trouble….bang bang
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by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Marcus
Big 12 POY next year. Book it.
And honestly I think Kieff can be just as good. He’s just more of an inside guy and it was tough to play him and Cole at once.
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I don't believe Tyshawn is a leader right now...
I’d say Marcus Morris is probably the most likely to step into a leadership role but we don’t have anyone in the backcourt prepared to do that. We will need a guard to step up next year to be a Final Four caliber team. When things got tight this year it was almost as if some players were afraid to attack.
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secondly
Secondly, what I more and more think this team was missing, besides the desire to embarrass opponents, is superior defense from the guards.
Not the defense that frustrates you for 30 seconds before you take a bad shot, but a guard-oriented defense that will take the ball from you if you blink.
Did this team rely too much on Cole, knowing that all they had to do was hold off until a bad shot was taken or Cole blocked/altered the shot?
by PDXJayhawk on Mar 22, 2010 8:06 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
yep...
Mario and Russell created steals on the perimeter. Tyshawn should be able to do that, but Brady and Tyrel are not good enough perimeter defenders to play the way Mario and Russell did.
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I think I miss the 3-headed guard monster most
Between RussRob, Mario and Brandon, that guard lineup with Collins off the bench was one of the most beautiful basketball I’ve ever seen.
Taylor, EJ and a guard to be recruited later could make up a similar trio if Taylor buys in.
I sometimes wonder if Tyshawn's issues...
were a buy in problem, or if they were a system problem. Like I said below…Cole seemed in the way for what we were probably more capable of doing offensively. The three man weave up top seemed useless because Cole doesn’t really have the quickness to do anything but stand on the block. I wonder if that hurt Tyshawns ability to play to his strengths.
No clue if I’m going somewhere with this or not, just a thought. I guess I’m just wondering if an offense with the Morris twins, Tyshawn, EJ and another guard might have quickness top to bottom and allow Tyshawn to freelance a little more than he could this year.
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runs
We certainly went on a lot of runs when Cole wasn’t in the game. I think we saw flashes of really good ball from next year’s lineup, a real run-and-gun team…
Taylor
Reed (switching off with Morningstar next season)
Morningstar (replaced with Little/Releford next season)
Morris
Morris
That lineup, which we saw this season, has a three point specialist who never gives up on defense, a lightning-fast point guard, either a second 3 point shooter or two quick and athletic small forwards, and two post men who are fast, athletic and never give up on offensive rebounds (although I wonder how many offensive rebounds they would have if you couldn’t count rebounding their own shots).
I'm sorry but I'm just really down on Brady right now....
I don’t think he provides anything offensively and I think we’ve been sold that he’s a great defender yet we aren’t a great defensive team at the moment. So is he just a good defender that looks great because no one else is out there pulling their weight?
I do like what Reed has to offer, but I like him off the bench still. I want athletes that can defend in the game. I have a post planned for Thursday morning maybe to look ahead at who’s returning and what we might be looking at. That’s after we’ve looked back at a few areas that may have hurt us down the stretch.
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At this point I think Reed is more valuable than Morningstar
Reed’s three point shooting is deadly consistent. His defense has gotten a little better and he has added more dimensions to his game (driving, a pull-up jumper, etc).
Morningstar is the same player he was last year and hasn’t shot the ball well for a while. Reed keeps improving.
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by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
My thought is that Self isn’t going to replace Morningstar in the lineup without a good reason. Reed provided a lot more down the stretch. Can EJ replace either of them in the lineup? And can he shoot? If not, we’re going to have two guards, one swing, and two forwards, with the only threats outside being the Morris brothers. And THAT’S scary.
might want to move up that post...
Because it’s pretty much all any of us are talking about!
So, Denver, are you trying to get a minute or two with Selby? I’d love to hear what Woolridge has to say, as well, about next season.
Don't have it done yet or I would think about it...
If Selby’s here then yes…I expect a lot of minutes out of him. I expect EJ to start seeing time, Releford and Little potentially as well. I just think Brady was a good filler during that transitional year but as Sax Solo says…if he’s one of the five best players, it’s a problem.
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Morningstar produced very little after his first 10 games or so this season.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
The idea of Brady as a starter
makes me throw up in my mouth a little. If he’s really one of the five best players on the team, we’re f*cked.
Sherron's defense has really gone downhill since his sophomore year
When he played less minutes he could really do a good job of guarding. Now he plays the whole game, would be a little tired, etc etc. To me his defense got worse and hurt. Taylor also gets beat a lot too.
The 2008 team had much better overall defense, and yes it was mainly from the guards (I’d say the post defense is a wash. The 2008 team rebounded better, but 2010 team blocked and contested shots better)
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by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
2008 team was more athletic as well which...
helped our offense a lot I believe.
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Very good point.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Taylor is a terrible defender.
Just awful.
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by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Mar 22, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed...
our guards rarely got steals or created turnovers. Hopefully we can do better next year in that area. I honestly don’t think we will miss a beat offensively in the post without Cole, but his defense will be missed.
offense no...
defense yes…he didn’t seem to fit the offense as well this year now that there were so many options and we were a more athletic team. Almost like he was in the way on offense. Not that he’s bad, it just didn’t seem to work quite right. Defense though, you can’t replace what he brought.
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defensively we will miss him
He altered so many shots and obviously blocked a ton as well, but Withey showed flashes of that same ability. He’s not as wide as Cole, so he’ll be easier to move for the easy lay-in, but if he keeps his position, the turnaround jumpers will be really tough to hit because of his volleyball experience. It’s also interesting, comparing blocking shots in basketball with blocking in volleyball. The reach-down foul or fouling with the body is the same as spiking or blocking and getting your body into the net. Withey’s ability to contort to avoid contact with the net will serve him well when he’s blocking shots that aren’t directly in front of him.
And we’ll also be more mobile against the hybrid post men who can step out and shoot.
I believe...
Withey will eventually bring more agility and recovery speed to the table as well.
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Not sure
that Withey has (or ever will have) the intensity on D that Cole had, but I do believe he’s just slightly more athletic than Cole, which will certainly help.
Operation Final Four is a go. Proceed to target.
yeah no chance he's as intense....
Paul Bunyon Minnesotan looking dude who’s dad is blue collar and his older brother is a marine! vs. Sun bathing, beach volleyball playing San Diego living seven footer! I’m stereotyping here as much as possible and it’s fun!!
Cole is likely tougher but I’m sure Withey will bring his own twist to the interior.
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by Owen on Mar 22, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
needed a laugh since I’m back at work for the first time in a week.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
back to work and no basketball to look forward too...
that’s a rough combo…
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well...you know what I mean
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I know what you mean, for sure.
I know I’ll probably watch a few more games, just because it beats studying, but it won’t be nearly the same. Plus, I’ll be pretty much only rooting for teams to lose, not for my team to win, which makes it not that much fun.
Well, that sucked.
not to mention,
there’s still snow on the ground outside my window reminding me that golf is still out of the question.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
I'm thinking golf on friday is going to happen for me
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I, too, am back at work
well, school, anyway. Not a whole lot of fun, I’m afraid. The KU campus is, well, subdued. Not a lot of chipper conversation going on, that’s for sure.
Operation Final Four is a go. Proceed to target.
change the sig?
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That's the target for next year?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Man, I hadn't thought about that yet.
Sheesh. I’ll have to think about it for a while. I’ll let y’all know, though.
Operation Final Four is a go. Proceed to target.
works for me...
at least for now.
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Thanks for jinxing us all year.
Everything you put down there ended having to be changed!
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
That fact had crossed my mind.
I still say, though, go big or don’t go at all. I had very high expectations for this team (obviously). Oh well. C’est la vie.
I’m thinking of a fanpost on this subject. I’ll see if I can get around to writing it while it’s still relevant.
Well, that sucked.
It's not like you have anything more important going on, right?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Quick sidenote here...
I was down in New Orleans last week and two things struck me.
The entire Texas team loading up on Popeyes Chicken just hours before tip? I should have place a bet on that one.
Kentucky players strolling bourbon street late at night? Obviously didn’t affect them, but hmmm….
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I'm working on an optimistic preview for next year's team
I hope it will cheer everyone up a little. Especially after the depressing story I posted yesterday…
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I support this.
Unlike others on this blog (KGRTC, for one), I’m actually convinced we’ll be a top-5 team next season, regardless whether X and Cole both leave. I think we’ve got great depth, we get two dynamic players off of red-shirt years, and all of our players will have more experience.
Not trying to steal your thunder, or anything, but that’s my thought up front. People tend to forget about Releford and Little coming back next year, which I think will be huge. I don’t think we’ll see a huge drop-off in the 3 spot if Xavier leaves early. And if he sticks around, we’ll be even that much better.
Well, that sucked.
I'm not sold on top 5...but we'll be in the mix...
top 15 I’m comfortable with.
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Honestly, top 15 should be a good goal for next year.
(At least in my mind)
Whole lot of question marks going to be asked to do a whole lot of stuff.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
I can see us as top 15
I would not be surprised if we’re just top 25, though.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Mar 22, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
Although, I think we won’t be a top-5 team in the preseason polls. I do, however, think that the athleticism on next year’s squad is going to be insane. The fast-paced, thunder-dunk/quick open 3 point shot we saw at times during the year when Aldrich was on the bench will be a lot more common.
I just wonder about whether this team is better if Xavier leaves.
This
Releford and Mario are supposed to be much improved, and especially Mario (since we never even saw him healthy) will surprise people next year. Releford is supposedly one of the better shooters on the team now, and when added to his long arms and height and KC background…we know where I’m going :)
Alright, that last bit was jumping the gun but I’m serious about the rest. Mario, Releford (and Withey and CJ to some extent – they got so screwed by injury early on they weren’t going to get in the rotation this year) will surprise people with how good they are next year.
by 2.1 seconds left on Mar 22, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we’ve got the talent to be a top-5 team (especially if we get a good recruiting haul this summer). My thing is I just don’t know if Self will be willing/ able to use it to reach its full potential.
If our starting lineup is this:
Selby
EJ
Morris
T-Rob
Withey
We could make another deep run. If it’s this:
Taylor
Reed
Morningstar
Morris
Morris
I don’t think that’s even a top 15 team. Based upon what I’ve seen from Self in the past, I would bet the latter lineup is what we end up with.
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by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Mar 22, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he'll have any problem burying both Morningstar and Reed
but for that to happen, someone is going to have to a) hang on to the ball b) hit an outside shot and c) feed a post player.
However, the “C” from above will be less important next year. The Morri won’t be near as dependent on the guards as Cole was this year.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
the high-low
The High-Low will be crazy next year with Marcus up top….they will have to guard him from shooting, driving and scoring, driving and dumping, driving and kicking out or passing it into the post.
That’s freaking tough.
You lack faith in the 3 million dollar man
He’s always been willing to use talent before when it was ready (Darrell, Sherron, Russ) so I think that if guys were, we would have seen them.
by 2.1 seconds left on Mar 22, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
so am I
I don’t see how we’re not a 2 seed in the tournament next year.
Hopefully once the doom and gloom ends people will start seeing it rationally
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The post is done
I’ll be posting it in about 10 minute or so…
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if it's done...why not post it now?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
he likes to build the anticipation
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KUGrad is from Wisconsin.
They. Do. Things. Slowly. And. Methodically.
by PDXJayhawk on Mar 22, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
not sure if this will ever get old.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
It hasn't so far.
But KU Grad might have a different opinion.
If he does, I’m sure he’ll get around to saying something….
eventually.
I'm from Illinois. Family is from wisconsin
Illinois is much faster
And I cant post it cuz I’m doing work bah ease off me back!
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by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
10 minutes my ASS
this is not a Wisconsin level of discipline.
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I find myself disappointed, but unsurprised...
Just kidding, Grad. You’re the best!!!
Well, that sucked.
its up.
stop being such an 
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by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I will now spend the rest of my day trying to figure out how a donkey got into the bottom of a well
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Mar 22, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Im guessing its a photoshoped pic...
But still epicly awesome
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by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of a story
about farmer who never got around to filling in an abandoned well. One day he led his mule through the weeds and it fell in. When farmer couldn’t get him out, he called in the neighbors to help bury the mule. When they shoveled in dirt, mule shook it off and stepped up, until he could jump out. Farmer was glad to have the mule back until it bit him in the rear end. Eventually the bite was infected so bad he had to cut off one leg, including that cheek of his butt.
Moral #1: When troubles pile up on you, shake them off and stay on top of things.
Moral #2: If you try to bury your mistakes, they’ll bite you on the ass every time!
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by KU62 on Mar 22, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's great.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Very wise
Sounds like something my grandpa would say. Except this made sense and had a good point to it, where as his stories usually just involve him yelling at my cousins.
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by Andrew Clark on Mar 22, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
In Review
Going into next season, the Jayhawks will be a somewhat young and weakened team. Maybe I’m a pessimist (and I am), but I am just very uncertain about next year’s team. I question whether or not Tyshawn can step and be the leader the Jayhawks will need in the backcourt. If the twins can improve like they did over the last offseason, they could become a really dangerous force from the inside that could well replace Cole (his shot blocking abilities aside). But if HCBS wants to rebuild this team, he must rebuild his guard corps, and restock it with some fresh talent. Listen, I love Morningstar and Reed, but I do not think they are ready to be starters. Reed is in there to hit clutch threes while Brady does the little things, but can not do the big things that Collins could.
I doubt that HCBS will find a John Wall or another Xavier Henry, but he is gonna need some solid freshman guards to play and grow in his system. Plus, if the Twins can improve we could be a contender. National title, probably not. Sweet Sixteen, could happen.
I think the point of this though...
is that we’re pretty young right now. Next year we actually have the potential to be more seasoned and experienced than this year in all reality.
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how can you be thinking about next year
I am still wallowing in misery after losing to Northern Iowa.
Without Sherron,
the team will be entirely different. As before last year, I don’t expect one ‘true point guard’, but two or three ball handlers all the time. Brady could very well be a steady, RussRob sort, with CJorEJ the one off the bench who gets more minutes and stats. The other five guards (EJorCJ, Reed, Taylor, Little, Releford) have to fill two spots (so two of them sit a lot). The front line will have similar overload, MMx2, TRob, Withey competing for enough minutes to not go stale. When needed, we could even go 3-big with still a backup.
This is assuming —
• Cole takes the lottery money,
• Zavvy-aire takes the someone’s round money,
• Three recruits are content to learn SelfBall in practice.
I am pretty sure I know exactly what kind of rotation Mike Anderson would use with this roster. Two platoons with 11, 12 filling in wherever. Every TV break, run in five pairs of fresh legs. Maybe one or two guys log a total over 25 minutes, and only in close games.
After watching KU play 36 minutes at NIU’s tempo, I wished so badly for five fresh guys to bring four-minutes-of-hell, then come back with the starters rested and settled. Any coach in the country would go crazy preparing his team to not ‘lose it’ during or after the blitzkrieg, if not both. As a one-time shake-up in a tournament game going bad, there is no telling how effective it could be to suddenly not always strive to be “Who We Are” whether who-we-are isn’t working or not. However well done, predictability can be prepared for.
RRROOOOCK CHAAAALLLK! JAAAAYYYHAAAAWWWK! KAAAAYYY UUuuuUU!
I was hoping to see this all year and kind of what I envisioned at the beginning of the year.
I wished so badly for five fresh guys to bring four-minutes-of-hell, then come back with the starters rested and settled.
Bring out 4 or 5 guys and go all out and all over, then bring them out after they annoyed the opponents for 3 or 4 minutes. Fresh starters against everyone else.
Should be a perfect post for all of this tomorrow…
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
I hesitated ...
to make the four-minutes-of-hell comment right after the loss, because I know I’m no one to be criticizing coach; and my wish is not intended as criticism. His relentless dedication to produce “Who We Are” basketball has been so good than no criticism is warranted.
That said, I do believe my ending sentence — “However well done, predictability can be prepared for” — is worthy of discussion.
There is a good reason that armies no longer wall themselves up in stone forts.
It is called ‘artillery.’
RRROOOOCK CHAAAALLLK! JAAAAYYYHAAAAWWWK! KAAAAYYY UUuuuUU!

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