Sunday NCAA Tourney Open Thread

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 11:00 AM CDT in Kansas Jayhawk Basketball

12:10 PM ET – #8 Gonzaga against #1 Syracuse (CBS)

2:20 PM ET – #10 Georgia Tech against #2 Ohio State (CBS)

2:30 PM ET – #5 Michigan State against #4 Maryland (CBS)

2:40 PM ET – #10 Missouri against #2 West Virginia (CBS

2:50 PM ET – #12 Cornell against #4 Wisconsin (CBS)

4:50 PM ET – #6 Xavier against #3 Pittsburgh (CBS)

5:00 PM ET – #5 Texas A&M against #4 Purdue (CBS)

5:15 PM ET – #8 California against #1 Duke (CBS)

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Just posted this on another thread, but I wanted to make sure it got read

I spent some time thinking about things (what a surprise). Here’s what I got:
I don’t think this team’s record masked anything. This was undoubtedly the best team in the country, but when you play single-elimination anything can happen. To second-guess games played in January and February doesn’t really seem necessary. We ran into a team that played very well and got the bounces to go their way, and that’s all it takes in a tournament.
What I am left thinking about is the fact that most titles seem to come after crushing disappointments for major players in years past. UNC got shellacked the year before they won, and lost the year before that by giving a game away to Gtown in the Elite Eight. We lost in the Elite Eight to UCLA in a terrible performance, and lost in the first round to Bradley before that. I think even Florida lost in the first or second round the year before they went back-to-back with the same players. Despite the fact that the winningest player in KU history was on this team and a battle-tested Cole Aldrich was on this team, this is still mostly a young team with players that exceeded or met expectations before. Last year was disappointing when we lost, but everyone (players included) knew we had still done more than could have been asked at the start of the season. This year, we didn’t. And those guys will hate that, and use it to fuel their improvement through the summer. I leave you with this quote from Marcus:
“I know I’ll be back next year, and I’ll be a leader of this team next year. Summertime, I’ll work as hard as I’ve ever worked in my life and try to bring a national championship to KU before I go anywhere [else]”

by 2.1 seconds left on Mar 21, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions

I guess when I say it masked some of our problems...

I mean that it made it easy to overlook the youth and a lack of urgency from this team that I ultimately feel did us in. We were the best team in the country, but we didn’t play like it all the time and that killer instinct wasn’t a part of this teams makeup.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions

I disagree with 2.1 a little bit.

There were a lot of warning signs earlier in the year that some of just (ME especially) passed off as a “rough game” or a night where the “shots just weren’t falling” when maybe that should have been a big red light flashing as a warning.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 21, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions

exactly my thought as well...

it’s like we were sort of lulled into believing the light was going to come on because we kept winning despite the struggles. It made it much easier to ignore the problems as a fan.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions

i have been thinking the same thing

If this had been the NBA and we play a best of 7 series, Kansas would be the champions. Unfortunatley, that’s not the case.

by fizzle406 on Mar 21, 2010 12:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I did not get nearly drunk enough last night

Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...

by tequilaprophet on Mar 21, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions

That is a comment that is rarely said.

It’s normally the opposite.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 21, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions

i am in the bargaining stage of the grief process

If UK loses I will feel much much better

by fizzle406 on Mar 21, 2010 12:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

there are several teams that would need to lose...

for me to be able to bargain my way out of this one.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions

they will.... they will...

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I hear ya...

I don’t want K State getting too much farther either.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 21, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-ku032110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions

I want to be pissed about that

but can’t be.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 21, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions

There's an interesting section in that story about Xavier

And I wonder if King is right that HCBS won’t every be strung along by a recruit with all the drama that surrounded X this year. I don’t think we were a worse team with X by any stretch, but it will be interesting to see if HCBS decides to recruit with an attitude like “We’re Kansas. We’ve got 2000 wins. I’ve got a national championship. You want to play for me? Great. You don’t? Fine. I’ll find somebody who does.”

It’ll be interesting to see what happens from here on out where that is concerned.

Operation Final Four is a go. Proceed to target.

by Bensa on Mar 22, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Now CBS is just being mean. Their showing 2003 National Championship highlights.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions

I can't even watch the tourney today.

Maybe next week….but it basically sucks watching today.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 21, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions

Great Sing

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions

My teams out...my bracket is completely busted

Rooting against K State and Kentucky are about the only reasons I have left to watch.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 21, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions

That game is mercifully over. Now on to the Maryland-Michigan State game.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 1:13 PM CDT reply actions

The show goes on...

Time for a Warden11’s Bracket Challenge score update!

There are still plenty of teams left to root for. And for four people in the challenge, that includes a certain team from Iowa. I’m not going to say who these miscreants are but their names rhyme with DCDenver s. tequilaroyal.

by sax solo on Mar 21, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions

Once again, could really use Wisconsin and Baylor winning a couple more games.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 21, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions

You're in a good position

Your picks are a superset of KCSince88’s picks, so from this point out you can’t lose ground.

by sax solo on Mar 21, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions

The Villanova loss killed my bracket yesterday.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions

This isn’t really a “bracket” challenge despite the name. It relates to the contest you can see in the fanpost sidebar.

by sax solo on Mar 21, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey

Kansas fan………just wanted to say that I am sorry about the loss for yall last night. I am a Kentucky fan…….we have been there done that before……04 specifically. It is a miserable sick feeling that stays with you for awhile. The team though really has played well all year and truly was at least tied for the best team in the country(Kentucky being the other :) I watched the game and I truly wanted Kansas to win. I just hate it for yall and the players. Keep your chins up though. You still are among the elite programs in the country no matter what happens. Good luck guys!!!!

by tenken on Mar 21, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions

yep it definitely stings...

but it happens. Thanks for the kind words and good luck, you guys looked pretty good in New Orleans.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks

but we aren’t hanging that banner yet. We are just glad not to be mediocre anymore. Title would be real nice right now but again glad not to be….North Carolina :)

by tenken on Mar 21, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks a lot

This was an embarrassing loss, but as Kansas fans we have had a few, so I don’t think many of us are spiralling into existential despair like we may have done on the earlier ones. It could be so much worse; we could be North Carolina.

by sax solo on Mar 21, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Lol so true

I’m still so glad we’ve got Bill Self sitting on our sideline next year and not Roy. Bill Slef was pissed about that loss last night, you could see it in the post game presser. Roy would have been crying with tears rolling down his face, bellyaching about the loss. Self is gonna sit down tomorrow and figure out WTF went wrong and is going to use this as ammo to teach next years team how to fight it out.

Thanks for the kind words tenken BTW.

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

your

wecome…….yall do have a fine coach. It will be fun racing against yall in the upcoming years to see who can get the most wins in NCAA :)

by tenken on Mar 21, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions

you

said it :)

by tenken on Mar 21, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions

The Midwest region is playing right into the hands on Michigan State now. They look terrific so far against Maryland while Ohio State is struggling against Georgia Tech. Their my new favorite out of the Midwest to reach the Final 4.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions

it's funny how the ball bounces sometimes...

I was even thinking Tennessee has to feel pretty good about things.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Hindsight 20/20

I should have picked Michigan State to win the Midwest region. They would have grinded down Kansas down like last year and they know Ohio State really well. Plus for my money, their isn’t a better in-game coach in college basketball than Tom Izzo.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I told myself I wouldn't watch any more NCAA lastnight

Here I am with a beer in my hand trying to find a team to root for…
Who is everyone else cheering for? Anyone?

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Mar 21, 2010 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

I'm going the same and told myself the same....

of course I didn’t get to watch the first round so I feel like I missed a bunch.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

For some reason

I always go back to Michigan State. I’ve always been a Izzo fan.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I guess the only teams I am rooting against are those that will rub it in our face

MU, KSU.

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Mar 21, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions

They'll rub it in our faces no matter what.

They could have the shittiest or best season on record, and their bitchy ankle-biter fan contingents will still glory in any KU misstep or setback, no matter how small. No point in even worrying about it.

by sax solo on Mar 21, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm still rooting for the Big 12!!

Also Cornell, Cal, and Tennessee.

by sax solo on Mar 21, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m rooting for Frank Martin to kill someone on the sidelines.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions

WVU....

looking pretty good early. Missouri can score quickly though

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions

Cornell never misses

They make every shot.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions

DanWetzel

UK is Harvard of Central Kentucky RT @NJ_StevePoliti Cornell-Kentucky? There’s a matchup of schools with, uh, different priorities.

No kidding

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions

Does anyone have a link where I could watch Wisconsin Cornell?

I gotta root for my second favorite team now that my Hewks are out

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions

Here you go

http://mmod.ncaa.com/video/std?ts=1269195450&t=53fb564c05d1dca5d0d41b8544d67e87&w=90

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions

This is awesome!

Thanks a lot bre

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m using MMOD because my local station is showing that stinkfest between Georgia Tech-Ohio State.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm in the hospital

Wireless here sucks. Hopefully it picks up. Gotta support my biadgers. Err my parents aunts and uncles biadgers

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions

KCsince88 (if you are in here)

I got my new irons finally and went last weekend. I can’t use my lob wedge for shit I’m not used to it. We need to go golf sometime soon since you are the short-game guru

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

Uncharacteristically fast paced MSU game. Also it amazes me how well Cornell plays on the offensive end.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions

is Turner really that good?

I mean, they talk about him like he’s the next Brandon Roy or something, but I don’t really see it. He seems first round good, but not #1 pick good.

Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 21, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions

He has awesome size though

A guard who can dribble and shoot and is 6’7 is pretty awesome, especially if he can develop even further. I’d gamble a pick on him, although John Wall seems more likely to produce immediately kinda like how Derrick Rose did/does

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions

John Wall seems like he’s a hot head though, who is capable of blowing up an any moment.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Good. Hes like me

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by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions

i guess i didn't realize he was that tall

looks about 6’3’ on the TV

Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 21, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Turner’s problem is that his teammates aren’t very good. If he had a point guard like Collins/Randle/McConnell, then he would undoubtedly be the number 1 pick.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Anyone know a place to watch games other than CBS' site?

Can’t get that one to work for me. Could be shitty internet though. 49er16 is there anything specific I need to do to make it work>

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 2:23 PM CDT reply actions

It needs to install some plugin the first use, could you work's firewall blocking it.

Make sure pop ups are allowed as well.

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Mar 21, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions

If that doesn’t work than try atdhe.net.

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by 49er16 on Mar 21, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Off topic but anyone know who this top kansas football prospect

that is supposed to visit lawrence next weekend and commit is?

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Mar 21, 2010 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

Dreamius Smith...

not sure if I’d call him a top prospect, he’s relatively below the radar but he is a very fast and athletic looking prospect out of Wichita…GREAT speed.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions

thanks for the info. rivals website teaser implied he was a top kansas prospect

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Mar 21, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions

well that could be true...

I thought you meant top prospect overall. I know Okie State was looking at him.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions

ah I see it in your post...

I just read it quick and thought you meant he was a national type guy.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions

awesome. Gill said he would recruit speed.

Can’t let good kansas kids go out of state as often as we have in the past.

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Mar 21, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Change this topic again

Looks like ksu picks up both brown brothers. That is some serious talent if snyder can get their heads on straight.

It's not that I'm lazy; it's that I just don't care.

by KRichards on Mar 21, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

yep...looks like he's going to turn that thing again possibly...

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Missouri has WVU right where they want them...

keep it close in the first half and Missouri makes their run in the 2nd.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 2:27 PM CDT reply actions

Incredible finish...

to MSU and Maryland…Tom Izzo as usual is going to take a team much further than expected, he’s clutch. Did all that without Kalin Lucas for the entire 2nd half.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions