The End of the Road
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:18 PM CDT
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I, like you, can't fathom that it's over now. Not yet. The initial shock is still over-riding anything else. It wasn't supposed to end like this, but ya know, that's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. We saw how near-impossible it is to win a national championship in 2008; how everything has to come together perfectly and align perfectly for it to happen.
I haven't got much to offer in way of analysis now. We've got the next six months to do that, so here's your thread for the rest of Saturday's games and a place for postgame discussion.*
Also, hats off to Northern Iowa. They played as near flawless as anyone could hope to against such a deep and talented team. You could argue at times that they wanted the loose balls more, were more decisive in their decisions and were never rattled, even when Kansas got it down to one in the final minute. Maryland or Michigan State are going to have their hands full next Friday in St. Louis.
*And, keep it clean and classy, folks. RCT is a classy blog thanks to the way it is run and the members that make up its community. Don't believe me? Check it here. It will stay this way. Warden and/or myself will be around monitoring and weeding out any over-the-top bashing or degrading of Kansas OR Northern Iowa.
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I will say one thing
Ali Farokhmanesh is the reincarnation of Gerry McNamara.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
damn that's a great comparison
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 21, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't it?
Frickin’ bane of our existence then comes back to haunt us in the exact same way.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Mar 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions
The Curse of the Mangino?
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Haha, funny, but unlikely.
Just got outplayed. We were beaten three times this year and were outplayed in all three.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
That really, really sucked.
I spent an hour this morning working on a post for the middle of this week that was going to show why Kansas was the favorite to win it all.
Two minutes ago I just deleted all of it.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Of course.
Tell Denver to dock my pay.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
And, that I should get it.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Again this team showed heart.
With everything going against them in the game, they managed to scape back and make a true game of it (the last 2 minutes). Too bad that desperation didn’t show up with 5 minutes to go?
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:25 PM CDT reply actions
True. It seemed like the intensity really picked up once they decided to go full court.
And Self is going to have answer for why it took so long for him to give it a shot.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
At least KSU and BYU should be a great game.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
It all becomes too hard for me to even watch
Once Kansas is out, especially in a loss like this.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 20, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here.
Although, I’ll attempt my best to keep RCT running smooth.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
In other news,
Washington got me 11 more in the WBC. Lead extended. yay
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
You guys know me, I’m not a KU basher or a troll, so take what I’m about to say with a grain of sald. But that preformance by Kansas tonight reminded me of the Kansas teams during the Ole Roy era. Very talented, but always clutching their throat in the tournament. This team specifically reminded me of the 96-97 team that lost to Arizona.
BTW, 10-0 BYU
Jimmer!
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
it's funny you say that,
because I said that earlier this year on this very site. another comparison would be the ‘95 Chiefs. always living on the edge, the shit they pulled during a regular season doesn’t work when you’re in a one and done tournament and you’re getting everybody’s best shot.
This team was not tough or talented enough.
"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Mar 20, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
the sad part is...
Bill Self led teams seem to be developing a pattern of choking more than Roy’s teams. Bucknell, Bradley and now this…minus ‘08…we’ve never exceeded expectations. Gotta do better than that.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Eh he kinda has a point
2008 was TITS but otherwise we haven’t done shit in the tournament. Two elite 8 runs which were nice but then two first round loses (inexcusable) and this year (even worse than the first rounders).
Its almost getting eerie how we just beat the living shit out of the Big12 every year but stumble in the tourney afterwards.
Shit happens when you win championships
I feel like Denver has a legitimate criticism here.
I mean, do you ever wonder how things would be different if Mario had not hit that 3-pointer?
or if Davidson had hit theirs...
I’m not here to say that we should fire him or ever even consider it, but he seems to be an absolutely INCREDIBLE regular season coach, but something misfires in the tourney sometimes.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
yeah we wouldn't have won a NC
but then you also have to say… what if Simeon hits the last second shot against Bucknell? It works both ways, you can’t just single out that shot.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Might be overly harsh...and don't get me wrong I love having Coach Self.
but the fact is, this team was going to be and will be judged on the tourney…it was a failure.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Look deeper
The 2004 team was not particularly deep. Simien was a stud, but Miles couldn’t drive, and we didn’t have great perimeter play, at least it was never consistent. The 2005 team had a bunch of freshmen, and lost to a Bradley team that went a fair bit deeper into the tournament. We sandwiched Elite 8 appearances around those two losses, then a Title, then a Sweet 16. This loss sucks, but it’s not a trend. I agree this team just seemed to lack a little grittiness, after Collins. If we played with K-State’s intensity for 40 minutes we’d be un-freaking-stoppable. Good squad coming back next year, though.
by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
welcome to the site...
and yes I think each loss has to be taken in perspective.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Yeah, seriously...
…I’m an Iowa fan (so I was rooting for UNI since they’re the only good team in our state) and didn’t believe this was possible, but I knew you’d be playing a tough UNI team. I didn’t think they could take it to you for all 40 minutes, but these things happen in the tourney.
However, you should NOT be complaining about your tourney performances (lest you sound like an Ohio St fan). You could be in Iowa’s position. Y’all are in good shape, and you’ll have another crack at it next year while some schools struggle to even have a legit program. Don’t despair- – I know it’s hard when you’re the favorites, but…
Just remember, there’s a reason it’s called March Madness. It looked like Kansas thought they could take the day off, and they paid the price (mainly because UNI showed up bigger than anyone could have expected). Chin up, you’ll probably be a front runner again next year.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 23, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Gerry Mcnamera was a very accomplished college basketball player. He won a national title and multiple Big East titles. This kid is a fly by night.
I also must say this. I saw this coming for Kansas. They lacked toughness to be honest. Losing to Tenn when all’s they had were freshman and walkons was a big sign for me. Aldrich sitting on the bench as KU struggled to stay alive in the last minute is symbolic of Kansas season for me.
I also must say this. I saw this coming for Kansas.
I kinda think we all feared it in the back of our head all through conference play.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry to disagree, toughness is not what this team lacked.
They lacked focus and concentration, but never toughness. Otherwise they would have packed it in by half-time instead of making a game of it in the end.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree MJ.
Our weakness all year has been being sloppy and letting teams stay close before we pull away. We’ve shown lots of toughness when it mattered(winning the Big 12 by 4 games) but we simply let UNI control the game for too long. We made a run late, but we had no margin for error, and UNI made enough plays late to hold on.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Saw it coming
Was a horrible sign that they struggled so badly to beat Texas Tech and A&M in the Big 12 tourney, and then let Lehigh hang around so long. You’re right. They just refused to go out and smack people in the mouth in the first 10 minutes.
by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Northern Iowa is my new favorite to win it all
Incredible defense and one of the best pure shooters in the country.
As for Cole, he seriously needs to reconsider whether he is ready for the NBA. His pan hands cost us at least 5-6 possessions.
screw that
i know i’m probably in the minority, but i for one am a little sick and tired of underdogs…if they (UNI) were so goddamn good they should have done it all year. you’ve got a guy that SHOT one three-pointer all year, and he MAKES two in the first half. they will fade into the background after this game like all the other lilliputians.
kansas needed to play one of it’s better games today to win, and it played one of it’s worst. the lack of effort on rebounds was pathetic. instead of crying, they should really feel some remorse for not wanting it more. if they take UNI seriously and play average to above average, they are moving on.
that being said, thanks to sherron for an incredible 4 years. what he did in ’08 defies words. good luck in the NBA, Sherron.
"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Mar 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Well they only lost 4 games..... they are good
They just don’t play in a BCS exposure league
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
and one of those games was when Egsl.....
was suspended, right?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
then why
are they a 9 seed?
"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Mar 20, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a really good question.
Mainly a terrible strength of schedule.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
See I never got that
THey lost 4 times all year. Southern Illinois was a 4 seed when we hit them 3 years ago from the same league and a similiar record
Shit happens when you win championships
Because the committee always underseeds mid-majors?
Just look at Saint Mary’s. No way they should have been a 10. Temple a 5? Cornell a 12? WTF.
Then everyone’s all shocked when these good teams pull upsets over mediocre power-conference teams that got gifted seeds (read: Villanova/Vanderbilt/etc.)
by JoeVandalFTW on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the question everyone at UNI was asking...
…when they saw Kansas in the second round.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 23, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Hard to get a good non conference schedule when the overrated teams hide.
You cannot get BCS exposure when the BCS conferences run and hide. Don’t believe it? How come Wichita State has to beat KU in New Orleans in the NCAA when they are only a couple of hours down the road. If KU played Wichita State on a yearly basis they would be better prepared for Missouri Valley foes. Oklahoma and Iowa enacted legislation and forced their BCS schools to play other Div 1 schools in the state. The ChickenHawks have enough friends in Topeka to stop that in Kansas. It sure has cost them when it comes to Bradley, Southern Illinois, University of Northern Iowa and Wichita State in the NCAA tournament. Perhaps the time has come to wake up and schedule the Shocks 1 and 1 forever. You too FraidyCats. At least KSU had the heart to schedule a scrimmage last year. Let’s fix the schedule.
by Ralph Heady on Mar 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
We did play some tough non-con games this year
At Temple, At Tennessee, home against Cornell, etc. Besides, does playing a MVC school in December help that much in March after playing 19 games against Big12 schools? I’m skeptical
Shit happens when you win championships
Try it. You'll like it.
Pittsburgh State? Emporia State? Fort Hays State? Yeah, that helps. That’s tough.
by Ralph Heady on Mar 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Those are exhibition games
And I think we do do (haha dodo) a good job of playing different styles and schools in our non-con.
We got upset in the tournament. Shit happens. I think everyone is looking into this way too much like its a goddam conspiracy. We lost. It doesn’t have to do with who we played before christmas or this or that.
We just lost.
Lets crack open some beers and move on.
Shit happens when you win championships
That's it!
The Jayhawks lost because they didn’t play enough teams that didn’t make the tournament?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
disagree on Cole...
he needs to go and get paid
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
My girlfriend hasn’t stopped crying since the end of the game. She’s taking this loss hard.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
this is a new generation of Jayhawks '97....
the ’97 team was far more heavily favored and lost to the eventual national champion though.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
The Buddah says...
…the root of all suffering is desire. You have to enjoy the ride. When you wake up tomorrow, reflect on the all the great thrills from this year, particularly spanking Texas, MU (twice) and K-State (3 times), and winning a sixth consecutive conference title, and the Big 12 tourney title. Let go of the desperate hope to win it all…if it happens, it happens (and it won’t happen very often), but enjoy the process. These kids gave us great thrills all year.
by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
good question.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
We need to send Dog the Bountyhunter
on an SBNation funded roadtrip to find out.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree with people that we lacked toughness and even focus
We lacked an ability to play well against slow it down teams that shoot well from three.
Honestly, have we EVER played well against teams like this?
Shit happens when you win championships
The way this day has played out, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a team like West Virginia or Michigan State win it all now.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
Thats the sickening thing
KState or someone like that will be in the final 4 or win the thing. Someone that we’ve beaten or would beat
Shit happens when you win championships
I don’t care who wins it all, I just don’t want Kentucky winning it.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
same here.
i loathe calpari and his sellout tactics of loading up on one and done miscreants.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Definitely a wide open year.
We could have anyone get a little hot streak and get the title.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh not Thuggins please
Anyone but Kentucky, WV, or DOOK is ok with me now. Even the ’cuse winning
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Cal fan, I hope they play against Dook like they did against Louisville.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
How would that be?
Everyone ragging on the Pac10 all year and then Cal wins it all… lol
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Well..........
Washington is already in the Sweet 16. Hopefully Cal can get their tomorrow.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
Don't worry about Huggybear
He’s ours.
Hup Tijgers
by Dutch Missourian on Mar 20, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Sherron a lot
But we win this game with last year’s Sherron. His regression the second half of this year was startling. How many games lately has he shot something like 5-16 from the floor?
We need guys who can knock down shots. I’m tired of watching Taylor shoot WIDE OPEN threes and not even coming close.
Shit happens when you win championships
In the Big 12 conference
I’d hoped we’d seen the debut of “okay I’m serious about winning this shit now” Collins. I guess not.
No he was serious about winning it
He just didn’t play well. Hes shot like 20 percent from 3, can’t finish in the lane and turns the ball over. Our post players and other guards bailed him out a lot the end of the year. If we had last year’s Sherron (39% shooter from 3, etc) were in the final 4.
We depended on him a lot and he played some of the worst ball of his career when it mattered most. Frustrating
Shit happens when you win championships
I do wonder if he's beat up? Knee or shoulder or ankle
Like you said he hasn’t been Sherron since middle of the season.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
This just reminded of everything I'd read in November and December about Reesing.
Shit.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Yup.
I thought about that a little while ago.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I can understand his knicked up a bit, but not buying it for his play
He was bruised last year and still scored 32 points in our first round tourney game and continued to shoot well all year. He isn’t limping out there, he just wasn’t making shots.
Shit happens when you win championships
I don't know why
he kept shooting them. Sherron has shown an ability to recover from a poor start and make clutch shots late, but when T2 bricked his first open 3 attempt, he should not have taken another.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Its even more frustrating to watch KState
Pullen will hit half his threes. Clemente at least a third of them. SHerron? 0-6
Shit happens when you win championships
Sherron on Ali's Shot
If you can stomach to watch the replay again, look for Sherron. If he had run hard OR even if he had gone toward Ali rather than drifting toward the lane, Ali would not have shot it.
Jayhawks played with intensity for 3 minutes. That’s not enough at this level.
Maybe Sherron was tired
It’s a long season. Look at Scottie Reynolds. Same thing. Stud guard, just fell off the cliff the last seven or eight games. I think they just had tired legs, and maybe tired emotionally from knowing they had to be “the man” in order for the team to win. A couple more stud seniors on this team, and I think it’s a different story.
by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
good of a time as any to mention my possible jinx
I had a birthday about a month ago, my wife was going to buy me a new kansas hat. I told her to wait until april to “see whats available then”
we are on every front page for good reason
Shouldn’t lose in the second round when you are the top team in the country. ever.
Then again we shouldn’t have lost to Bucknell. Or Bradley.
Shit happens when you win championships
That's the thing about being a KU fan.
You know there will be disappointments, yes, but there will be more greatness too.
Yep as i told my wife ... there's always next year.
Maybe not having the highest expectations and pressure put on us will be good.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it just hurts more when you are a one seed
30whatever and 2, 15-1 Big12, etc etc.
As a 3/4 seed yeah not as bothered. I knew that Bucknell year team had fallen apart and quit on Self and the Bradley year team was young.
This team was….so good though. Ugh.
Shit happens when you win championships
you got that right
We shouldn’t have lost to UCLA in ’07 ( I think ’07)… Damn Self NEVER adjusts to anything
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I blame Obama
for picking us. It’s always the politicians fault. :)
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh man, KGRtC now has the highest Pts. Possible by like 30 because he didn't have KU in the FF.
And, somehow it vaulted me back to the top. Whatever.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
I guess we need a Warden11's Bracket Challenge score update
to restore our will to live.
KCSince88 leads the field, but his army of radioactive mutant underseeds has thinned considerably.
HERE I COME
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
That's what she said
It’s an Office reference
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
ok, first time I've laughed sine the end of the KU game.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Ugh watching the K-State game... how can we play so damn well during those games
and lay this freaking egg today?
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:02 PM CDT reply actions
UNI >>> kstate?
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I do think it's a pace issue.
Look at Iowa State, Nebraska, Cornell. We had to slog them out. This time UNI was better than those teams and took it to us…..
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
And playing a game like today's makes it so hard to get in rhythm
when you’re only getting the ball ever 30-40 seconds.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
UNI did a great job when we sped them up
and started a run, slowing it right back down. We needed to control the tempo and failed.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Guys.
Just came over to offer my condolences (kind of makes this sound like a funeral, which it is, in a way).
Oregon and Tennessee fan here. I still think Kansas was the best team in the country this season, and they just ran into a hot-shooting team that plays with an odd tempo. Those whiteys simply shot the lights out. Northern Iowa and Cornell would make for one hell of a game, huh?
But seriously, I know how much this sucks for you guys right now. I’ve dealt with my share of heartbreaking losses, and it’s tough to get over. Take a day or two to get pissed, then look forward to the future. It’s not as bad as you think. There will be brighter days.
Adios guys.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks for the words
Best of luck to the Vols in the Sweet 16…. was looking forward to a rematch
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks!
And if you guys want a team to root on for the rest of the tourney….well…..you know….
:)
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
Don’t worry, as long as Bill sticks around we’ll be fine. This team had a great year, winning the Big 12 by 4 games and getting to win 2000, but the agony and ecstasy of the tournament is that one off day puts you out.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Bill Self can't coach his way out of a paper bag
no adjustments; lets Collins run wild and free and doesn’t re-set him. Self is all wonderful when the team is up by 20, but can’t handle the scary times. We were EXTREMELY lucky in ‘08. Don’t expect it again under Self.
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with MJ
This sucks and some things could have been done better but when the lucky stuff doesn’t fall your way, there’s not much you can do. Also, it’s hard defending a three-point shot that comes from half-a-mile beyond the arc.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Mar 20, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
resisting a women and sports joke
Beadlemaniacs - Award winning* college basketball blog (new and improved!)
Olympics!
may be brighter in Oregon if...
whoEVER is the designated AD has the sense to do what Kanas should have done when Roy left: hire Mark Turgeon – now w/ Texas A & M, took Wichita State to the Sweet 16, and was an assistant at Oregon under Jerry Green (some said that Mark was the only guy on the Green staff who knew what he was doing)
You could tell that Mark was destined to coach as a point for the mid-80’s Jayhawks – smartest guy on the court… called him Turgeon the Surgeon…
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Just curious do you have a crush on Mark Turgeon
Yeah he’s a good coach, but jesus, are being paid to pimp him?
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
oh honey, I am WAY too old!
… he just does more with less. Self does less w/ more.
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Does more?
What has he done more of? Just curious….
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you forgetting about LAST FUCKING YEAR
Beadlemaniacs - Award winning* college basketball blog (new and improved!)
Olympics!
I believe the question is;
Are you Mark Turgeon’s mom? :)
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Talking to Sherron on radio right now.
Voice quivering and crying, audibly.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
"Where did it go wrong, Sherron?"
“Defense. Just didn’t guard.”
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2010/3/20/1382957/the-end-of-the-road#comments
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
ummm...don't think that's it.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Oops, I mean
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
going there now
did anyone ask about pressing?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
They asked Sherron about it.
Not sure about HCBS
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
oh my god
tennesse fan here just wanted to say omg you guys blew down the stretch and i picked you in my bracket
now i am going to lose
Kthanks, bye.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe you should tell the Kansas players that (who played in the game)
rather than their fans (who didn’t play) on an internet blog.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn.
That’s rather rational of you KC. Is your GF on the computer again?
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The big bucks that RCT pays have changed my ways
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
oh my god
tennessee fan here just wanted to say omg you’re mature and everyone else picked them too so get over it and stop whining
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
So...could have used a Pullen today.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
definitely could have used this Pullen today.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Or let Tyrel or X shoot
all the 3’s that T2 & Sherron took. :)
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
How 'bouts we never play in Oklahoma City again?
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
and everyone was so excited about it.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
I had a bad feeling about going there in the first place.
That state sucks
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
State of Oklahoma: HCBS's kryptonite
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
good thing he doesn't
coach there. he’d have been fired several times by now
Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 21, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
i hear that!
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Stunned
I didn’t even get to watch to game because I had a tennis tournament. I didn’t believe my sister when she said they lost. I appreciate people who show empathy and don’t just kick us while we’re down. It was still a great season with a really bad ending.
33-3 ain't too shabby.
Just sucks that this will be the way the season is remembered.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey
I’ve followed you guys and the team on this blog for the past year and finally decided to comment. This is a goddamn tough loss to deal with but there’s one thing I noticed about this team and that’s that we’ve only got one starter who truly understands what it’s like to be a Jayhawk and the importance of winning games.
I was about to cry until I saw Mario weeping on the floor for well after a minute after the game, Tyrel trying to withhold tears and Marcus needing to be helped up by his teammates. It sucks were losing Sherron, but were going to have a nucleus of determined as fuck players next year with guys like Little, Tyrel, Travis, Thomas, and Elijah understanding what we as fans see as being obvious. The twins will only come back better and I have a feeling Woolridge’ll be a baller.
We wont be as talented next year but with less pressure I think this team will gell a lot better and be a force to be reckoned with.
by Walshdollar on Mar 20, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Keep on comin' back, Walsh.
And, I have to agree about less pressure next year. Although, I can’t bring myself to start thinking about next year yet.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Overall
I still kinda think a 24-hour waiting period to join an SBNation team blog wouldn’t be a bad thing.
Some of the blogs have them.
I know Arrowhead Pride does and Double T Nation. I’m all for outsiders coming in after a game, as long as they are cool. And, if not, they’ll be gone.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of them do have a waiting period
before you can comment. Not a bad idea to weed out the trolls, though we’ve had some newbies make some great comments today also.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'll take the good with the bad and banhammer the bad.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Chip Kelly knows a thing or two about banhammering.
Just thought I’d throw that in, since it’s my sig
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
If Denver ever gives you the banhammer,
I can see you rivaling the Mighty Thor!
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Both Warden and I have the banhammer now, actually.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I shall show you total respect henceforth.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, no need to.
I’m just waiting for the first profanity-laced troll to come through today. I have a feeling it’ll be a race between me and Warden to hit it first.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
About to have our first winner
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
i have to say one thing... the college game is flawed.
5 fouls, 40 minutes, and 20-foot three-point arcs? are college athletes REALLY that inferior to NBA athletes? they’re certainly less skilled, but i see no reason why they should be having these rules in place. half these guys are gonna be in the NBA anyways, so why have such drastically different paramaters for the game? all it does is level the playing field for inferior teams.
i’m sick and tired of seeing unqualified refs being given more power by the fact that it only takes 5 fouls to disqualify a player… i’m sick and tired of seeing gimmick offenses thrive on being awarded an extra point for hitting a shot FIVE FEET AWAY from a free throw, and i’m certainly sick of seeing 2 20-minute halves in place of 4 12-minute quarters. times have changed, and the college athlete isn’t just a “little boy” anymore. the rules need to follow suit.
back in the day, there is NO WAY IN HELL a team like northern iowa would even be able to compete with a team featuring 3-4 future NBA-ers on it, but these past few days have made it almost a GIVEN that they indeed can. this is not good for the game.
I'm not sure I disagree that the college game could be changed for the better
but I don’t think it’s a bad thing that teams like UNI can win these games. I’d rather see the end of one-and-dones and less emphasis on recruitment of future pros.
Yes, the fact UNI can beat a 1 seed
in the second round is what makes the tournament thrilling. I would love to dump the 1 & done rule also. If guys want to go pro out of high school(or prep school) go right ahead.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
For one, I think the college game needs to adopt the NBA no-charge circle. It wouldn’t stop the screaming about what’s a charge and what’s not, but it would sure help.
by JoeVandalFTW on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea what a charge is anymore.
I mean NO idea.
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree 100%
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
i'll go a step farther and say charging should be eliminated from the game.
it should either be a no-call or a defensive foul. force players to actually make a defensive play instead of just standing in the way.
you could still call offensive fouls for moving screens or players pushing off in mid-air, but the charge is ruining the game on all levels
"Not good for the game"
One could also say that allowing a team sport to be turned into a “give the superstar the ball and watch him go one-on-five” is not good for the game either.
by JoeVandalFTW on Mar 20, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
indeed one could.
but i think the fact that the NCAA is such an obvious feeding ground for the NBA is one that can no longer be ignored, and the rules should reflect this.
you and i both know that will never happen though.
the nba treats the NBDL about as seriously as the NFL treats the CFL.
The rule that really bothers me...
Is the shot clock. It’s absurd that women’s basketball plays with a 30 second clock, while the men play with 35.
Also, add in the arc under the hoop like they have in the NBA. You shouldn’t get an incentive to sit under the basket and hurt guys that are trying to attack the basket.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Mar 20, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
From Bill Self:
didn’t want to press in the first half because of having 6 team fouls and UNI’s a good shooting team. Didn’t just take the press off the table but also made KU use less pressure in the 1st half.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
*good free throw shooting team
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
more thoughts:
67 points isn’t bad against this team. More inability to grab offensive rebounds.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Alright, I just took Fescoe's bait on Twitter.
I feel we may get into it.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
what'd he say now?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
#sherroncollins was awful in his final game 0-6 from 3 pt range? Really? what a way to go out
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
don't waste your time on him
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Too late.
I took it.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
..... as if that's NOT awful?
look, i love sherron as much as any KU guard i’ve ever seen… i’d actually have him ahead of Jacque. but to say he wasn’t putrid in this game would just be ignoring the facts
Geez, show a little maturity.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah, these are missouri fans.
We expect this. Hence why no one is freaking out on him. It validates our superiority to them.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I like how he mentions "choking again"...
Tell me, tbone, when was the last time Missouri made the Final Four? Oh, wait, what was that? Never, you say?
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You're welcome here at RCT anytime, TQA :)
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I just call it like I see it, my man.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Good win for Tennessee today btw!
I picked you guys for our Bracket Challenge.
Frankly I think the inconsistency is a little charming, and I thought that if you guys pulled it together you could make a great run.
We would never.
HCBS is the best coach in the game. I’ll take that any day of the week.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The only coach I would take over Bill Self is Tom Izzo, but that’s it.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
for crying out loud....
Self racks up recruits and stats… Teaches the game, and when all is well, coaches well, but under stress, HE DOES NOT adjust. Don’t believe me? See for yourself (pun intended…) Take a look at the tourney 1st round exits in ‘05, ’06 and the loss to UCLA in ’07. Look at this year’s games against TN, OSU and today.
If he had a clue about answering, don’t you think he might have taken Collins out to give him a blow, some encouragement and some direction??
That game was lost on the bench.
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow you might need to take a break. I think this game pushed you over the edge
You seriously think that anyone could have beaten OSU that day the way they were shooting?
When it comes down to it, it’s the players that play the game, not Self. No matter how much you want to scream and shout that NCHCBS SUXXORS doesn’t make it so, especially with his track record at 3 different schools.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The loss to UCLA?
Self can’t make layups.
The loss to Bradley? They shot like double their average from 3
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I guess I'll trade a choke every once in a while for a National Championship in the non-choke years
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
On behalf of more classy Mizzou fans
Tough loss for you all, you have my empathy. While I can’t deny (as a rival) that I wasn’t terribly disappointed by your loss, I do know how it feels and would not try to rub it in.
Big XII regular season and tourney champions is a great season, and you all will have a great team again next year. I look forward to Missouri’s (hopeful? possible? unlikely?) return to perennial ranked team status where we offer a legitimate challenge to KU’s Big XII dominance.
As long as you have BIll Self, you will have chances to win it all almost every year, and THAT is an incredible blessing for KU fans that I never have (will?) enjoy.
P.S. Cole Aldridge, please go pro!
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
appreciate the words BigMO...
I’m sure both MU and KSU fans enjoy this one as they should, but it’s always good to remain classy about it…thanks.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I wonder if the CBS President hung himself, now that a potential Kansas-Kentucky final is out of the window?
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
Speaking of which, we need to put an APB out on JFOX....
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If that was the case
then you’d have thought both KU and UK would’ve gotten easier brackets…..
I'm Your Huckleberry.
Warden does the +/- matchup with the result
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
This sounds weird
but in a very twisted way, I’m glad the year is over. Every possession this season felt tight. There was something magical about last year’s team and how loose we all were with it. This year, and this isn’t the first time I’ve talked about this, we all felt like we HAD to win the championship. Like winning a championship was the only way this season was going to be any kind of a success.
Let’s be realistic. Winning the NC is hard. We had the pieces this year and it still wasn’t enough. Every tournament features one or two teams who are vastly underrated in the seeding and turn into a buzzsaw come tournament time. We happened to run into that team today and even playing a very, very mediocre game, we damn near one this.
I will say I feel absolutely sick for Sherron Collins. A storied career and a guy that will probably always be THE #4 in my mind in Kansas Basketball. I hate seeing him go out like this and he deserved better. Unfortunately, he had every opportunity to put this team on his shoulders and carry us onward past the pesky Panthers and he flat failed. I hate that my lasting memory of Sherron Collins will be this game. I just wanna go back to OU game last year and freeze time. Much love, 4.
Fuck today.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I agree with that
This is why I wanted to win the Senior Night game so, so bad. You can’t play with the NC in mind, I don’t really think. And long term, I think winning that Senior Night game would be something the players could look back on fondly, no matter how they did in the tournament.
Wow self's body language very PISSED in the press conference.
Didn’t come across like that in the audio, but gritted teeth and closed arms… understandably pissed
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions
Are you shocked?
I’m doing all I can to be accept this loss but if I was the coach, I’d be real pissed at this outcome. A lot of the bad habits we saw this year came out today and it knocked them out in the first weekend.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Not surprised, just didn't pick it up on the audio, but very visible on TV
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't pick that up in the audio either
going to have to try and catch it on television.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Let's hope he takes his revenge
by coaching at Kansas another 20 years and getting 4 more National titles.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
You would think
That as a Cubs fan, I’d be used to this, but this is feeling more worse than any experience I’ve had with the Cubs. Or maybe it’s just because it’s only 2 hours after.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 20, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
Chiefs, Royals, Tigers
At least KU is reliable to compete every year
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
you and me both, wrigley
Lifetime Cubs fan and, wait for it, Vikings fan, too. It’s been a rough couple months where championship games is concerned.
Operation Final Four is a go. Proceed to target.
You're cute.
Can I take you home and play with you?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Slam is the resident troll fucking-with-er......person......guy here.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
But mooooooooooooommmmmmmmmm
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Belmont?
That was you missouri, actually. If you’re gonna troll, at least come correct.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
False.
Clearly he meant this
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Missouri looked pretty good against Navy last December
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They really do hang themselves, don't they?
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
They were just being patriotic
by getting hammered by the Naval Academy.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahahahahaahaha.
Troll fail GET. Listen, dude. If you’re going to mock our choke history, at least take some pride in your work.
For real, though. You’re making me feel a lot better, brah. No matter how much this stings, I still have a national championship shirt in my closet that’s giggling at you right now.
Can we be friends, man? I like you a lot. I feel like I could learn a lot from you.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Consider this your warning.
Keep it up and you’re done here.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Warden
You make me laugh. You put on the teacher pants to type that out, didn’t you?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
See what I mean?
Don’t deprive Slam of this guy.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I would hope
he’s a helluva lot tougher on his students.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe that's the problem
haven’t been able to harass any students all week and I’m just getting trigger happy.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Nah, I'm kinda enjoying it.
Let it play out, Warden. Slam’s having too much fun.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not.
I’ve got no problem with someone having some fun but I’m not reading this shit all night.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
I can agree with that.
Besides, I don’t wanna deprive Warden of using the
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I should be packing
but I always like seeing shiny new toys in the store and I just….I just…I WANT IT.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahahahaha
Maybe I’m just drowning my extreme pain in humor, but Warden, I totally picture this as a real life representation of you right now.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
LMAO
Slam is the best possible therapy after a tournament loss.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i just spit my beer all over my keyboard you fucker
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
TELL ME
that isn’t you.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome
Though it probably looks a helluva lot more like my brother than Warden.(do I know you Slam?)
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone knows me!
I’m the guy who shows up after the season after basically abandoning SB Nation because of migraines and starts crackin wise with trolls and admins alike.
Also, go Baylor.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
so who's the starting 5 for next year?
Withey or Markieff at center? marcus and mario at the 4 and 3, then tyshawn and elijah at the guard spots?
I'll talk about this in a month.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
If your immersed in the Cubs, then you’ll be back in a month.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't feel bad
I’’m a Giants fan, so I’ll be back in a month.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
and a lot of us are Royals fans.
We don’t even bother to leave.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahahaha, beat me to it.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahahahaha
Oh, Giants. You guys are silly. Aubrey Huff? Really?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
He should, dude.
That guy is a clown.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He's no Dayton Moore.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
SO true.
I feel so privileged right now. This is weird.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I'd agree with Warden.
T2 will thrive being the lone true point guard in the game a lot of the time and I like a dual Morris at the 3 and 4. Although, I’m not sure HCBS will have the confidence in Withey by then. Also, Warden, you’re forgetting TRob. As was I actually. He will be the first off the bench, a la Kieff this year.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I still see Little getting those early minutes.
T-Rob after him for Withey and whichever of the Morris boys are in the fouling mood that day.
Releford will sneak some time but I’m afraid he might get buried again.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Too much to think about
without looking at it all laid out in front of me. Right now, I’m trying to figure out which bar I can make it to in my car with all the snow.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Lots of time for the Morri,
and i think Travis Releford gets a starting spot. We need to turn the athletes loose next year.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Releford?
The poor man’s Keith Langford? That kid terrifies me. I hope he’s learned to shoot FTs in his year off.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
releford gets a lotta love around here
not sure why… ideally he’s a slashing 3, but he’s not big enough to be a forward and can’t dribble enough to be a guard.
He'll be interesting next year after a year of practice.
We really have no idea what to expect from him next year.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
and honestly, it still wouldn't surprise me to see a transfer.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Could go to Alabama with his brother
and not have to sit out a year since he did this year, no?
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the rumour,
but I don’t know if could play immediately. Sitting out 2 years in a row would be brutal.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
You British, hunter?
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Does it make you type the conspicuous "u" 's in your ending in -or words?
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
close enough.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Burn the witch!
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Be careful,
or I’ll turn you into a newt! And send you out for a shrubbery!
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
A long time from now but I'd think Morningstar's a starter with T2, then the Morri and Withey.
Little coming off the bench for a Morris brother. Reed and EJ subs for Morningstar and T2, work your various freshman in there wherever they end up fitting.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
i could see it benefitting marcus's pro prospects to play the 3
and obviously it would allow markieff to be in the starting 5, but i also feel like mario is gonna explode next year
In basketball related news
BYU trying to make a game of it again.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
It just keeps fucking snowing.
How depressing.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
Dude
I’m supposed to be flying to Los Angeles tomorrow for this bad ass 3 day vacation where I’m going to a couple of hockey games and hanging out with a good friend of mine. I was all packed up until we lost and I had to pull all my KU gear out of my bag and hide it. Now I have no idea what other clothes to wear.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
A real man
would wear the KU gear and give the 1 finger salute to anybody flipping him shit.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
Man up. I’m about to wear KU gear to a bar in missouri.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
good luck with that
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Stop by and I'll loan you
my 9 millimeter. (you’ll have to pay for the ammo though)
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Might go through a lot of that.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That's right.
I’m talking about clothes.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Your not a fucking USC fan
Only those pussies put away their gear after they lose. Your a Kansas fan, wear your colors proud.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
Okay
You guys talked me into it. Any wants to start some static, I’ll just Aldrich roar and pimp hand a bitch. I hope I run into a Missouri fan. Their biggest wins in their history are by the teams who beat Kansas. Some arch rival. /scoffs
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you.
You can keep your RCT card.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
well
at least I have a hockey game to watch
Beadlemaniacs - Award winning* college basketball blog (new and improved!)
Olympics!
I'm done with Hockey
My Sharks are already preparing themselves for a early playoff exit.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
true
I’m watching college though
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Olympics!
you're lucky you aint a blackhawks fan then...
started off the year on fire, now we lose a player a night to vicious hits and our goalies play like they got arthraitis
Alright, I'm gonna trek out to go get drunk.
Thanks for the quick therapy session, guys. I honestly don’t know how I would get by game to game during the long weeks without RCT. It’s a drug and I’m addicted. Don’t everybody all disappear off the map now that the season is over. The summer months are gonna be long, but football coverage and news will start up sooner than you think. Denver has a lot working already and myself and Warden will be looking to add in any ways possible.
Keep it classy.
Rock Chalk.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
I will say
If this season has to end, I couldn’t have picked a better group of d00ds to end it with. Crying in our collective beers aside, this off-season is going to suck.
I must continue the packing, though. You all be good and don’t drive.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Mar 20, 2010 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
I have to admit
Tonight’s KU game is whey the NCAA tournament is the greatest sporting even in the world. It’s a giant crapshoot and you have to be damn lucky sometimes.
Thanks to RTC for hosting me and being nice. I’ll be around for the summer months.
Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"
by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
BYU hitting a couple of shots would really help me enjoy this game.
At least make it close for a minute or so.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Sherron & EJ commiserating after game
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Gah, really don't want to see pics like this.
Guess I’d better stay of the internet for a month or two.
I'm out for a bit
KU had the best team in the nation, and got plenty of recognition for that. We didn’t bring out best games in the tourney and lost. That’s just the way it is. But we had a pretty damn good season that a hundred schools would trade their left nuts for. If we had our hopes set on a NC, that was a false hope, I guess. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one who was looking forward to being able to point at two NC’s in three years and saying “That’s my school.”
Hope to see people in the OGT for the rest of the tournament!
by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Bill Self - inexcusable performance
As bad as Collins was, the loss belongs on the shoulders of Bill Self. To NEVER sit Collins out and have a little chat and rest, to never give more opportunity to Morningstar and Reed, to not make an iota of adjustment once again reveals how clueless Self is to gametime stress situations.
He recruits; he teaches; he can put a game plan together – well, most of the time, but when the going gets treacherous he falls off the cliff. Player grit, a little luck, and Super Mario gave the chump a National Championship in 2008, and now we’re stuck with him.
Think I am wrong? Take a look at a few tapes and see how Kansas performs after timeouts.
Gawd, I wish Kansas would have hired Mark Turgeon a few years back….
You can't possibly be serious....
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, we'll just have to make the best of it.
Being stuck with Bill Self.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah life sucks as a Jayhawk eh?
Guess we all had to suffer though another 3 loss Big12 Championship season… sigh
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah i am serious
Self stinks under pressure… but i don’t expect any changes… contract and all.
Among other things, he did a real disservice to Collins by not sitting him for a bit, letting him regroup and get a blow, and ..um maybe talking some strategy to the on-court leader.
Self does great (apparently) at selling his programs (Tulsa, Illinois, KU) to bluechip recruits, teaches the game, and plans for the game. I have great admiration for the way his teams exhibit stellar sportsmanship.
But truly, tough situations reveal a gap in his coaching prowess. Go look at some archives for yourself.
Hey, I hope he figures it out… he has a ring and with it comes tenure
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
Self is one of the best coaches at adjusting in game.
Usually they perform great after time-outs so I don’t get your point there.
Reed played 26 minutes this game.
Oh, if we would have hired Turgeon… we wouldn’t have a National Championship 2 years ago.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
we're watching different games then
… and performing great after a timeout w/ a 20 point lead is different than performing after a critical timeout that’s called to make adjustments.
Look, reality is that some folks think Self walks on water… he doesn’t. And, I know I sound harsh, and am being taken as “harsher”. Reality is Self is going to be at KU for a while – a long while.
Don’t get so defensive… I did acknowledge he does most things well.
Whether any of us recognizes that there were critical coaching errors today or not is immaterial.
3 loss season… ? I was much happier in Apirl ’88 after an 8 (I think) loss season.
And Turgeon… it wasn’t going to happen then, and it probably would have been too early, bu the guy is good and has a great future… Oregon may snag him (but he’ll have work cut out for him!)
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't trade Bill Self for anyone
but I’d agree there are games where we struggle to make the adjustments needed.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I'm sorry but...
….you’re an idiot. Self is 24-11 in NCAA games, including while coaching a pair of mid-majors. He’s won six consecutive conference titles (any idea how incredible that is?), taken KU to a Sweet 16, two Elite 8s and a national title in 7 years. Swear to God, people like you are never satisfied. Go root for Nebraska.
by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Goddamit
Goddamit this sucks. Still, I’m optimistic about next year. Good players back, good coach, and winning the league always happens.
Lets all channel our anger and use it to our advantage in the first ever RCT golf outing this May
Shit happens when you win championships
Sounds good to me.
Adjusted handicaps/beer-per-shot rule should work just fine for me.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, so what's worse...
Being a fan of a team that is perennially competing for league/national championships but still falls short and suffers the occasional humiliating loss, or a fan of a team that never competes at all? At least in the latter case, you never get your hopes too high, so the soul-crushing moments are few and far between.
Of course I wouldn’t trade being a KU alum and Jayhawk fan for anything; I’m just effin’ depressed.
I'll take the lows that come with the incredible highs being a KU fan.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too. Any day of the week
Its better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all.
I’ll take the glorious winning and painful loses than being apathetic towards my crap team
Shit happens when you win championships
Same here.
Although I can’t say for certain I would feel the same way if we had not won in ‘08. The sheer joy and exuberance of that night was unlike anything I’ve ever experienced, so it makes up for any second-round losses we’ll have for probably the rest of my life. God I’m drunk.
Yeah I wouldn't be this rational had we not won it in 2008.
I’d be roaring pissed. Be like “we can’t be a national powerhouse. we are the Buffalo Bills. Big12 titles don’t mean shit anymore. FML” etc.
Shit happens when you win championships
Exactly.
You’d be asking yourself if it was worth it; if it was worth becoming so emotionally invested in a friggin’ basketball team each year. For me, it’s only because of ’08 that I can say..yes, yes it is totally worth it.
2008 was everything
Had we lost that game to Davidson Bill Self is feeling serious heat right now. KU nation is calling for his head. So glad it isn’t the case but he would have been here years with three pre sweet 16 loses, no title, etc.
2008 was everything. We are almost playing with House money for a few years now as fans. I sorta feel that way
Shit happens when you win championships
Yeah, this is becoming a really scary trend.
I’ll admit that.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
The secretive legend of Denverjhawk lives on.
I was all set to meet Denver in St. Louis this week and find out who he is. It isn’t to be, I suppose.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
I know what his name is...
And that he has a beard…or did in the fall. Thats it
Shit happens when you win championships
how do you know these things? : )
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
You came to town for a football game and I went back that weekend too
I think you texted me we tried to meet up…but I ended up not getting to Lawrence till game time (I had to work on saturday…fml)
Shit happens when you win championships
Another thing bothering me
Whats the point of the regular season? Honestly. We went 30-2 this year, won the league, league tourney and etc and yet this season is a failure (in the eyes of many). I mean seriously.
I almost am starting to wonder…I mean why play so many games, non-con then conference etc if at the end of the year you are placed in a crazy single-elimination tournament that is comprised of teams/styles you have never seen before?
Maybe football has it better? The regular season matters, if you aren’t sharp throughout you don’t get to play for the big prize. Maybe thats worse? I dunno.
It just makes it tougher to swallow when we we beat everyone this year, owned our league…then this.
Shit happens when you win championships
Well, yeah work all season..
… to get that # 1 seed… and ya just aren’t supposed to lose to an 8/9
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I just say that when I came here to do a quick check before heading to bed and saw 35 new comments
My first thought: “Oh shit, who started a flame war”
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
I figured tbonetiger made a comeback.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
No it's the Carla Hanson that's ragging on Self
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
and i haven't even had the honor to buy you a drink...
… geez guys, you take it so personal… I’m not raggin on your manhood!
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
Just can’t take anyone seriously who is ****ing Mark Turgeon’s @)%*#% and wishing we had never hired Bill Self.
hey I admit
I rooted for Turgeon then and now, and then woulda been to early (moot point, anyway).
But here’ my question. Is Self’s struggle to handle tough game situations a correctable problem?
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't you have to first identify the problem?
The man taking teams to the Elite 8 and winning a National Championship doesn’t look like a problem. Beating K-State in Manhattan in overtime doesn’t look like a problem.
Right now, there is really only 3 games that look like a problem and they’re only related by the point in season they were played and that Bill Self was coaching. Can we really let 3 games tell us there is a huge problem with KU’s coaches in big games?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
And those three games were decide by a combined 7 points
3 possessions over 3 games…… Don’t think that’s enough to indict him as a poor coach in the tourney.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I thot I did ID the problem
(but first, a cliche, the difference between good and great is in the details)
The Problem – the team seems unable to respond in critical situations in which they are behind
Observation – (just one for brevity) Key player having off game; very poor shooting night, poor passing, etc..
Solution – sit player (for at least some time), adjust offense
I am not indicting the entirety of Self’s coaching bonafides; I was and am specific… and the specifics can be the difference between 2nd round exit and playing in April.
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
c'mon, let me vent!
… and i was very specific in my raggin’
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Vent away.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Thanks Warden
I think i got it outta my system…
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
all opinions are welcome....
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I feel like this team lacked chemistry this year...
and I would point to 2 maybe 3 players that could be a big factor in that.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
To borrow a phrase from our favorite whipping Boy Roy
This team lacked the “Wont To” at times. Today was one of those days
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Today was definitely one of those days.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
a few individuals ....
talent and wins masks a lot of the issues but you can go back as far as Cornell and the signs were there that we weren’t consistent and seemed to have times where our players just weren’t on the same page. For all the talk early on about how difficult the midwest was and how we got screwed….the reality is, we weren’t coming out of any bracket playing the way we did this weekend.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
That's a good point.
It’s amazing how quickly things can change. Just last weekend KU beat possibly the best team on their schedule solidly for the third time this season, Thursday and today were just flat-out awful performances.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Let me provide some perspective
I’v grown up with KU BBall. Had season tix since I was 7 or 8. Love it, it’s fun, its entertaining, and we’re almost always competitive. Yet losing a game is not the end of the world. It used to upset me for days/weeks, not anymore. Last August my daughter passed away at 6 months old and I’ve finally realized what’s important in life and it’s not a basketball game.
Maybe it took a long time in life to get there, but I won’t lose any sleep over this win tonight. Yeah I still watch, yeah I still get worked up, but in the end it’s just a game.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:58 PM CDT reply actions
Agree completely
… and helps to civilly vent online, even with folks that disagree w/ my points
I am so sorry about your daughter.
Be well, Michigan
by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto to what the Carla Hanson said
Sometimes I need to be reminded of the more important things in life.
But this still hurts.
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Mar 21, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't Make Excuses
Going into this game everyone clearly thought Kansas was the best. And they were. It was just one of those tournament moments that happens. But’s let not make excuses on chemistry or on Bill Self. If they had lost to Davidson in ’08 we would have made the same excuses. But they won and went down in history.
BTW -
Can we please stop playing games at the Ford Center. It has been the site of of our 2 worst tourny losses in the HCBS era.
Sad face.
Man crush. Sherron.
let's just burn Oklahoma down.
Seems just to me.
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I can bring the kerosene
Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...
by tequilaprophet on Mar 20, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
UNC Fan here
Tough loss. However, the response both here on this blog and by the Jayhawks after the loss has been completely classy. Kudos. I doubt our fan base would be as sane as yours is if the Heels were in your shoes.
Good luck in the future, ladies and gentlemen.
Hope I don't have to tell you guys...
…that the idiot troll who claims to be a Missouri fan doesn’t represent us (or, at least, the folks at Rock M Nation).
Condolences.
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Don't worry.
RMN has definitely proven itself to be a classy site and we certainly don’t blame you for the occasional wandering troll. :)
by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
no worries...
good luck against WVU
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I'm sure you'd rather not hear from another opposing fan, but oh well
I admit i was torn tonight while watching KU’s game. Lately, I’ve been on an Anti-Big East kick, so i was really hoping the Big 12 would represent. On the other hand, I really did not want KSU to face KU for a 4th time(if KSU made it that far) since that is a horrible match up obviously. But would rather of had KU drop out later in the tourney. It’s tough to play teams with nothing to lose and this year’s tourney magnifies that.
Keep your head up, i’m sure next year KU will reload and be ready to go. Don’t get too drunk tonight and stay safe.
Most talent in 20 years...
…and they blew it. They didn’t want it bad enough and they let all their Jayhawk fans down. You guys completely screwed up. Lost lots of respect for Bill Self today. We should start calling you Roy Williams. You forget you still need to get talented kids ramped up like they are playing the number 1 team in the country, not defending a title you don’t have.
Damnit, that sucks. Nice f***ing effort.
by formerjayhawkfan on Mar 21, 2010 12:13 AM CDT reply actions
Roy never won the NC for us
Chill out. Bill did a hell of a job this year… I just hope Xavier is the last one and doner we get. Look at last season and the job he did with Cole, look at what he did with the Morris bros. as well as Morningstar and Reed. I really think if he has raw but coachable talent we would be much better off.
The Chiefs will take a defensive player with 3 out of their first 4 picks in 2010
I'd agree...
you either go all in or all out with the one and doners. Self seems to be better at building a team and developing chemistry, add the wrong ingredient and it might not be the best move. If we’re going one and doners, lets go balls out like Coach Cal and just see what happens. My preference would be our current technique and the developmental team approach.
The reality with X is, if he’s gone…his Kansas career will be completely forgettable. That’s not meant as a knock on him, but it’s reality….very few will remember his contributions to Kansas basketball a decade from now.
53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
stuff happens
and its heartbreaking that it happens to us a lot. They seemed extremely tight thursday and even more today. we had the pressure on us, they had nothing to lose. N. Iowa made shot after shot, hit about every free throw, and i swear they drew a ton of fouls. more than usual in my opinion. We fought to the end but it wasnt meant to be. Just their day. we missed too many shots and a few key free throws late, then left the iranian nighmare open at the end. Makes me sick but we are still ku and will be contenders again next yr, the yr after, and yr after that…
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
I wouldn't say it happens to us any more often
every team but one loses every year. When you go to the tourney for 20+ years in a row it just seems that way. But the fact remains, winning it all is hard and it needs everything to break just right. I mean how often does the best team in the country go into the tourney and lose at some point? I’d say far more often than not.
Man crush. Sherron.
Any chance Cole and X come back next year..
..because of the disappointing way the season ended? I would almost be suprised if Xavier left, but I’m sure Cole has played his last game.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 21, 2010 12:28 AM CDT reply actions
Epic fail
That has been the most disappointing game I have seen in a while. Maybe there is a rule that KU does not play in OKC in any tournament until the second coming.
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sure it sucks and all that, but if I wanted to follow a boring and predictable sport, Id be an NBA and college football fan
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by fetch9 on Mar 21, 2010 1:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
its not Right that 4 (Sherron) has to go liek this.
He’s been a knight in shining armor and Built Like A Rock (Chevy) and alwaays so good and conistently reliable.
No more 4 :’’’’(
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I’m a Nittany Lion fan living in Toronto, that should tell you i’m mostly a football fan and just here cuz i had kansas in an office pool.
I’m familiar with disappointing seasons so first off my condolences. Secondly I know all about not judging a coach on a single performance but considering their entire body of work, but I have to say I am very surprised by the responses on this thread.
I don’t know too much about your coach and how he usually performs, but I blame this particular loss squarely on him. Frankly I am very surprised more of you are not doing the same. Allow me to explain myself before you fire back.
While I do agree with Carla Hanson that Collins should have sat for a few minutes to calm down and Self didn’t make adjustments they needed early enough, I don’t think these were critical errors that could not have been over come. Collins is one of your stars and I’m all for going with the guys that bought you this far, so I’m generally cool with a coach that makes the mistake of overplaying a proven winner. To be clear I think the ideal move would have been to take Collins of for about 30 secs to have a quick chat and calm him down with about 7 min left in the game, just before you’re about to make your final surge. He seemed a bit frazzled by the tough zone defense which made it difficult to dribble penetrate, the coach should have taking a moment to calm him down and remind him of ways in which to use some of his other considerable talents to hurt NIU.
As for the adjustments they eventually made the key adjustment they needed, going to the press and they got it to within 1 point. So the coach provided method with which the team could get back in a position to win and the players executed that plan and we were on the verge of a great comeback.
Then with 42 seconds left Self called a timeout…. I believe this cost you guys the game. You had all the momentum, just scored to bring it to 1 point, the jayhawks were looking like sharks that smelled blood. Your press reminded me of the Pitino days at Kentucky. NIU had turned it over on 2 straight attempts against the press, they just saw there lead go from 7 with 1:08 left to 1 in 25 seconds (43 sec left in the game), they were paniced they had only 1 TO left and couldn’t afford to use it now. They were ripe for another turnover, everything was going the Jayhawks way, it seemed assured that NIU would collapse at the end like so many cinderella’s before them. But inexplicably your coach called a timeout…. this gave NIU a chance to regroup, draw up a strategy to break the press and hit that crucial three. All credit to NIU for executing and Ali for nailing that 3. KU wasn’t out of it at that point but NIU never looked as vulnerable from that point on.
I’m sorry if the wound is too fresh for you guys, i can certainly relate to that, but I’m looking for answers and am very interested to hear what you guys think of my analysis and what you think of that Timeout that I was screaming at the TV about (seriously the entire time I was yelling that either: the play-by-play guys had made a mistake how/why could/would KU take a time out now, or the KU coach is the stupidest man alive).
I think this is a very valid point.
Then with 42 seconds left Self called a timeout…. I believe this cost you guys the game. You had all the momentum, just scored to bring it to 1 point, the jayhawks were looking like sharks that smelled blood. Your press reminded me of the Pitino days at Kentucky. NIU had turned it over on 2 straight attempts against the press, they just saw there lead go from 7 with 1:08 left to 1 in 25 seconds (43 sec left in the game), they were paniced they had only 1 TO left and couldn’t afford to use it now. They were ripe for another turnover, everything was going the Jayhawks way, it seemed assured that NIU would collapse at the end like so many cinderella’s before them. But inexplicably your coach called a timeout…. this gave NIU a chance to regroup, draw up a strategy to break the press and hit that crucial three. All credit to NIU for executing and Ali for nailing that 3. KU wasn’t out of it at that point but NIU never looked as vulnerable from that point on.
I don’t think it cost the game, there were many things that did that. But I was also confused about calling a timeout there.
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I don't remember, but did he sub someone there Offense for defense?
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
but the timeout was not required for the substitution, he was doing that without timeouts prior to that.
On second thought
That was happening after free throws… excellent point, maybe thats what it was about. I still think the momentum was overwhelming and giving NIU a chance to regroup was crazy.
Shouldn't have been.
There wasn’t a stop in the action after Marcus Morris made both of his free throws and whatever defensive guys he wanted out there should have already been out there.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
Excellent
So I firmly back my initial “the timeout was insane” stance, with no reservations regarding personnel.
Wasn't that the break where X got fouled?
Not a TO? Then X missed the front end of the 1-1.
The Chiefs will take a defensive player with 3 out of their first 4 picks in 2010
No, that was about a minute earlier in the game.
This timeout followed Collins’ made layup.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
and in the interest of full disclosure,
I’m generally against timeouts at the end of the game in situations like this, especially when you have the superior group of players.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
I don't think that time-out made the difference, too many other things up to that point
We just left it too late to make the charge. This team had a bad habit all season of playing mediocre ball for 20-30 minutes and then playing 10 minutes of brilliant ball. They usually turned it on somewhere around the 15 minute mark left to go. In our 3 losses now, they made a furious charge, but waited until too late. Here they woke up around 5 minutes to go. In Tennessee it was with about 7 minutes to go, in OK State game it was also about 6 minutes. but the defeceits were too large.
Sometimes the players didn’t seem to listen to him. They felt they had the natural talent to win these games ballin’ on their own, yet when they played as a team they were unstoppable. I don’t think Self could have done anything different, maybe press a little earlier but remember we’re not a pressing team, Cole gets gassed.
Overall I don’t think this team ever gelled the way the 2008 team did. Something was off in the chemistry, dunno what, but it wasn’t 100% there.
Also I go back to a comment I made awhile back, these guys knew/thought they could beat anybody because of their talent anbd consequently farted around waaaay too much and then tried to close out late. I just didn’t see the emotion on the court that a lot of other teams display. Think about how often you’d see chst thumping and pointing with the 2008 squad. Sometimes it seemed this team didn’t give a rip, Sherron , Cole and Reed are the only ones that come to mind that were consistently ‘in the game’ emotionally. Their reactions in the locker room after last night shows they wanted to win … but also expected to win.
Maybe they expected it more than they wanted it…..
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
What do you think about...
the timeout giving NIU a chance to regroup when they were flustered? It seemed to me like they were about to collapse.
Possibly, but it also gave KU a chance to set up the next 45 secs.
Honestly when it comes down to it it should not have even come down to the last 60 secs. If the team would have played with true passion and determination for 10 minutes instead of just 5 minutes we would have won by 6 or more.
I say again
Maybe they expected it more than they wanted it…..
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions
That is true.
But that is also true for all major upsets where there is a significant talent divide. Games where the favourite narrowly avoids upsets are not cuz they wanted it just enough. It’s more like they started to turn it on just in time and didn’t make any crucial mistakes as they came back.
I believe Kansas turned it on just in time yesterday but the coach made a crucial mistake that cost them. Is that to say it should have come to that? Absolutely not, leaving it to that is unacceptable from a fan perspective, but we love our teams and we know it’s going to happen from time to time so we cherish the victories and try to forget the upsets.
Ok another reality check
After reading some of the comments posted in Jason Whitlock’s column I realized how freaking lucky we are. How many teams are there that are as competitive as KU is almost every year? 5, maybe 10 at the most?
Yeah it hurts when we lose a game we should/could have won, but it hurts because we have been accustomed to greatness. If we were a Gonzaga, Butler, K-State, or god forbid Missouri… a perennial also ran… would you like that better? I wouldn’t.
I love this team because they are always in-the-mix. They excite us, they entertain us, they make us look forward to March Madness every year, because even at an 8 seed we’ve won the crown. I’ll take these hurts in trade for all the good times.
Coach Self will bring us another NC. Maybe next year, maybe the year after, who knows, but I’m confident he will. We all need to accept the fact that there is more luck involved in this game than we’d like to admit, last night the stars didn’t align.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Well said
Every Penn State fan was forced to this conclusion during “the dark ages (2000 – 2005)”. If you can truly come to grips with this without having to face such horrors you really are the winner.
(no sarcasm)
yep...this is what I keep coming back to...
you can’t be “upset” if you aren’t any good. Kansas has been VERY good year in and year out so almost every time we lose…it makes news. To be great you take the good with the bad. The highs are high and the lows are low.
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mirror image of the past
i think that the hawks lost to a team that resembles how ku played 20 years ago, absent the transition game. i think this is why i wasn’t reaching for the industrial-sized whiskey bottle like i would have if ku had lost to a team with no discipline, defense, or 3-point threat. northern iowa is the poster boy for the amount of parity in college hoops. ku will not be the only 1-seed to fall before the final four.
keep in mind: for all the ‘expert’ opinion about the jayhawks being unstoppable, folks overlook the amount of freshman/soph players expected to step up and deliver in pressure-packed situations. this was a pretty young team on the court; even moreso when cole would be out of the game.
i think it’s a testament to coach self that a team with only 1 starting senior could play the season and end up with only 3 losses.
it’s now elijah’s team. time to reload.
Well put.
I do wonder if the pressure and expectations put on them from early on lead to a lot of the tightness and forced plays we saw over the last few weeks. Yet we were lucky enough to survive those, but just couldn’t pull this one out
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Seth Davis writing in SI about Round 2
It’s the nature of the beast that some folks are going to take shots at Bill Self after this, but it’s not going to be said by anyone with reasonable intelligence. This is the same guy who led Kansas to a championship, this is the same guy who has led three different schools to the Elite Eight. That being said, this one’s going to be painful for Self for a long time. He takes losses very hard, and this was a team that really had a great chance to win a championship. You don’t often go into the tournament and say, “We’ve got a really good chance to win this thing.” That opportunity doesn’t come around every day.
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions
chiming in
Well, that was a night.
It came to me in the shower this morning: I never liked Xavier’s attitude. He constantly put out this feeling that he didn’t have to try and that it wasn’t all that important if he did. Giggling after made three pointers, shrugging after missed three pointers, he honestly believes his ability is more important than his effort. I hate to compare him to Wall, but when Wall’s on the court, he’s constantly looking for ways to embarrass opponents, beat them into the ground. Sometimes he succeeds, sometimes he fails, but he always tries.
I never got that feeling from Taylor or the Morri last year. I think that Xavier’s attitude of “it doesn’t really matter either way” is what got in the way of this team gelling and doing more than going through the motions. Sure, there was Collins there to offset it, but that clearly didn’t work.
Not all OADs are like that, but this one was. It just seems like Xavier never thrived on the competition, on winning, on Sportscenter plays of the day. He is Brandon Rush without the need to compete harder than anyone else. At Rush’s first media appearance as a Jayhawk, he was asked to describe his game. He said, “highlights.” And then he said he looked forward to learning more under Coach Self and playing with the team.
I wish Xavier the best, and I pray that he declares for the league.
John Wall also has a fire and intensity that Xavier never showed...
I want to remember Xavier differently but I’m afraid the best we’ll know of him as a Jayhawk was a kid that still had some growing up to do on the basketball court. He’s a talent, but you say his effort wasn’t great which is true.
I read a quote from Sherron talking about how the toughest thing for him was understanding the effort needed. He talked about how many high school seniors and especially the caliber of player Kansas recruits, doesn’t have to try that hard in HS to be great. They just go out, do there thing and they are studs. I don’t think this team understands that top to bottom. I think Marcus Morris’ emergence is because he figured it out…others haven’t.
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by Owen Kemp on Mar 21, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you catch the CBS bit on the Morri yesterday morning
It talked about that exactly, i.e. the Twins figuring out that they actually needed to work to get better. X was definitely the X factor and disappeared again yesterday.
I hinted at this a couple games ago with X’s reaction after hitting a 3, he was happy, but there wasn’t that killer FU emotion behind it….
by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 21, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
You can tell though the Morri want it bad
After a big rebound, dunk, shot, etc they have a fire to them. One thing I like about them. Also something that makes our future bright. Them, TRob, even J Dubs all are firey post players who will fight for the ball and try to destroy you.
Hopefully that combined with guards who can actually shoot from outside points to a bright future for us
Shit happens when you win championships
Agreed
I don’t want to say that Sherron was bad for us, to do so would be treason… but In a system like Self’s, the lifeline of the team is inside, and it seems like Sherron and T2 were too aggressive in looking for their own offense throughout the course of the season, rather than keeping the Bigs involved.
Cole was looking SOOO Good inside and UNI couldn’t do anything about it….but we’d feed him a couple times, and then start jacking three’s or driving the lane into bad shots.
This team needs pass-first, score second guards. It fits the system better.
I think EJohnson will have a tremendous offseason and establish himself as the great guard we’re all thinking he will be. I still don’t think T2 has sold himself out for the betterment of the team yet.
Having said that,
If the Morri do whatever they did prior to this postseason, this postseason, and take TRob and Withey along for the ride…..We’re going to be tough to out-muscle next season.
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