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The End of the Road

I, like you, can't fathom that it's over now. Not yet. The initial shock is still over-riding anything else. It wasn't supposed to end like this, but ya know, that's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. We saw how near-impossible it is to win a national championship in 2008; how everything has to come together perfectly and align perfectly for it to happen.

I haven't got much to offer in way of analysis now. We've got the next six months to do that, so here's your thread for the rest of Saturday's games and a place for postgame discussion.*

Also, hats off to Northern Iowa. They played as near flawless as anyone could hope to against such a deep and talented team. You could argue at times that they wanted the loose balls more, were more decisive in their decisions and were never rattled, even when Kansas got it down to one in the final minute. Maryland or Michigan State are going to have their hands full next Friday in St. Louis.

 

*And, keep it clean and classy, folks. RCT is a classy blog thanks to the way it is run and the members that make up its community. Don't believe me? Check it here. It will stay this way. Warden and/or myself will be around monitoring and weeding out any over-the-top bashing or degrading of Kansas OR Northern Iowa.

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I will say one thing

Ali Farokhmanesh is the reincarnation of Gerry McNamara.

Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...

by tequilaprophet on Mar 20, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

damn that's a great comparison

Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 21, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it?

Frickin’ bane of our existence then comes back to haunt us in the exact same way.

Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...

by tequilaprophet on Mar 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Curse of the Mangino?

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by Jason Kirk on Mar 20, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha, funny, but unlikely.

Just got outplayed. We were beaten three times this year and were outplayed in all three.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That really, really sucked.

I spent an hour this morning working on a post for the middle of this week that was going to show why Kansas was the favorite to win it all.

Two minutes ago I just deleted all of it.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Of course.

Tell Denver to dock my pay.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And, that I should get it.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again this team showed heart.

With everything going against them in the game, they managed to scape back and make a true game of it (the last 2 minutes). Too bad that desperation didn’t show up with 5 minutes to go?

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

True. It seemed like the intensity really picked up once they decided to go full court.

And Self is going to have answer for why it took so long for him to give it a shot.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least KSU and BYU should be a great game.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

It all becomes too hard for me to even watch

Once Kansas is out, especially in a loss like this.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 20, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here.

Although, I’ll attempt my best to keep RCT running smooth.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

In other news,

Washington got me 11 more in the WBC. Lead extended. yay

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Don’t worry. If Kentucky wins it all, it will be vacated in a couple of years.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys know me, I’m not a KU basher or a troll, so take what I’m about to say with a grain of sald. But that preformance by Kansas tonight reminded me of the Kansas teams during the Ole Roy era. Very talented, but always clutching their throat in the tournament. This team specifically reminded me of the 96-97 team that lost to Arizona.

BTW, 10-0 BYU

Jimmer!

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

it's funny you say that,

because I said that earlier this year on this very site. another comparison would be the ‘95 Chiefs. always living on the edge, the shit they pulled during a regular season doesn’t work when you’re in a one and done tournament and you’re getting everybody’s best shot.

This team was not tough or talented enough.

"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Mar 20, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

the sad part is...

Bill Self led teams seem to be developing a pattern of choking more than Roy’s teams. Bucknell, Bradley and now this…minus ‘08…we’ve never exceeded expectations. Gotta do better than that.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 20, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh he kinda has a point

2008 was TITS but otherwise we haven’t done shit in the tournament. Two elite 8 runs which were nice but then two first round loses (inexcusable) and this year (even worse than the first rounders).

Its almost getting eerie how we just beat the living shit out of the Big12 every year but stumble in the tourney afterwards.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like Denver has a legitimate criticism here.

I mean, do you ever wonder how things would be different if Mario had not hit that 3-pointer?

by knayte on Mar 20, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

or if Davidson had hit theirs...

I’m not here to say that we should fire him or ever even consider it, but he seems to be an absolutely INCREDIBLE regular season coach, but something misfires in the tourney sometimes.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 20, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah we wouldn't have won a NC

but then you also have to say… what if Simeon hits the last second shot against Bucknell? It works both ways, you can’t just single out that shot.

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might be overly harsh...and don't get me wrong I love having Coach Self.

but the fact is, this team was going to be and will be judged on the tourney…it was a failure.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 20, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look deeper

The 2004 team was not particularly deep. Simien was a stud, but Miles couldn’t drive, and we didn’t have great perimeter play, at least it was never consistent. The 2005 team had a bunch of freshmen, and lost to a Bradley team that went a fair bit deeper into the tournament. We sandwiched Elite 8 appearances around those two losses, then a Title, then a Sweet 16. This loss sucks, but it’s not a trend. I agree this team just seemed to lack a little grittiness, after Collins. If we played with K-State’s intensity for 40 minutes we’d be un-freaking-stoppable. Good squad coming back next year, though.

by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

welcome to the site...

and yes I think each loss has to be taken in perspective.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seriously...

…I’m an Iowa fan (so I was rooting for UNI since they’re the only good team in our state) and didn’t believe this was possible, but I knew you’d be playing a tough UNI team. I didn’t think they could take it to you for all 40 minutes, but these things happen in the tourney.
However, you should NOT be complaining about your tourney performances (lest you sound like an Ohio St fan). You could be in Iowa’s position. Y’all are in good shape, and you’ll have another crack at it next year while some schools struggle to even have a legit program. Don’t despair- – I know it’s hard when you’re the favorites, but…
Just remember, there’s a reason it’s called March Madness. It looked like Kansas thought they could take the day off, and they paid the price (mainly because UNI showed up bigger than anyone could have expected). Chin up, you’ll probably be a front runner again next year.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Mar 23, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gerry Mcnamera was a very accomplished college basketball player. He won a national title and multiple Big East titles. This kid is a fly by night.

I also must say this. I saw this coming for Kansas. They lacked toughness to be honest. Losing to Tenn when all’s they had were freshman and walkons was a big sign for me. Aldrich sitting on the bench as KU struggled to stay alive in the last minute is symbolic of Kansas season for me.

by Upstait on Mar 20, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I also must say this. I saw this coming for Kansas.

I kinda think we all feared it in the back of our head all through conference play.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry to disagree, toughness is not what this team lacked.

They lacked focus and concentration, but never toughness. Otherwise they would have packed it in by half-time instead of making a game of it in the end.

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree MJ.

Our weakness all year has been being sloppy and letting teams stay close before we pull away. We’ve shown lots of toughness when it mattered(winning the Big 12 by 4 games) but we simply let UNI control the game for too long. We made a run late, but we had no margin for error, and UNI made enough plays late to hold on.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saw it coming

Was a horrible sign that they struggled so badly to beat Texas Tech and A&M in the Big 12 tourney, and then let Lehigh hang around so long. You’re right. They just refused to go out and smack people in the mouth in the first 10 minutes.

by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Northern Iowa is my new favorite to win it all

Incredible defense and one of the best pure shooters in the country.

As for Cole, he seriously needs to reconsider whether he is ready for the NBA. His pan hands cost us at least 5-6 possessions.

by Nick Britt on Mar 20, 2010 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

screw that

i know i’m probably in the minority, but i for one am a little sick and tired of underdogs…if they (UNI) were so goddamn good they should have done it all year. you’ve got a guy that SHOT one three-pointer all year, and he MAKES two in the first half. they will fade into the background after this game like all the other lilliputians.

kansas needed to play one of it’s better games today to win, and it played one of it’s worst. the lack of effort on rebounds was pathetic. instead of crying, they should really feel some remorse for not wanting it more. if they take UNI seriously and play average to above average, they are moving on.

that being said, thanks to sherron for an incredible 4 years. what he did in ’08 defies words. good luck in the NBA, Sherron.

"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Mar 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

and one of those games was when Egsl.....

was suspended, right?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

then why

are they a 9 seed?

"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Mar 20, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a really good question.

Mainly a terrible strength of schedule.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

See I never got that

THey lost 4 times all year. Southern Illinois was a 4 seed when we hit them 3 years ago from the same league and a similiar record

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the committee always underseeds mid-majors?

Just look at Saint Mary’s. No way they should have been a 10. Temple a 5? Cornell a 12? WTF.

Then everyone’s all shocked when these good teams pull upsets over mediocre power-conference teams that got gifted seeds (read: Villanova/Vanderbilt/etc.)

by JoeVandalFTW on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to get a good non conference schedule when the overrated teams hide.

You cannot get BCS exposure when the BCS conferences run and hide. Don’t believe it? How come Wichita State has to beat KU in New Orleans in the NCAA when they are only a couple of hours down the road. If KU played Wichita State on a yearly basis they would be better prepared for Missouri Valley foes. Oklahoma and Iowa enacted legislation and forced their BCS schools to play other Div 1 schools in the state. The ChickenHawks have enough friends in Topeka to stop that in Kansas. It sure has cost them when it comes to Bradley, Southern Illinois, University of Northern Iowa and Wichita State in the NCAA tournament. Perhaps the time has come to wake up and schedule the Shocks 1 and 1 forever. You too FraidyCats. At least KSU had the heart to schedule a scrimmage last year. Let’s fix the schedule.

by Ralph Heady on Mar 21, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

We did play some tough non-con games this year

At Temple, At Tennessee, home against Cornell, etc. Besides, does playing a MVC school in December help that much in March after playing 19 games against Big12 schools? I’m skeptical

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try it. You'll like it.

Pittsburgh State? Emporia State? Fort Hays State? Yeah, that helps. That’s tough.

by Ralph Heady on Mar 21, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those are exhibition games

And I think we do do (haha dodo) a good job of playing different styles and schools in our non-con.

We got upset in the tournament. Shit happens. I think everyone is looking into this way too much like its a goddam conspiracy. We lost. It doesn’t have to do with who we played before christmas or this or that.

We just lost.

Lets crack open some beers and move on.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 21, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's it!

The Jayhawks lost because they didn’t play enough teams that didn’t make the tournament?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 22, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

disagree on Cole...

he needs to go and get paid

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 20, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend hasn’t stopped crying since the end of the game. She’s taking this loss hard.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha

No it’s not.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is a new generation of Jayhawks '97....

the ’97 team was far more heavily favored and lost to the eventual national champion though.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 20, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Buddah says...

…the root of all suffering is desire. You have to enjoy the ride. When you wake up tomorrow, reflect on the all the great thrills from this year, particularly spanking Texas, MU (twice) and K-State (3 times), and winning a sixth consecutive conference title, and the Big 12 tourney title. Let go of the desperate hope to win it all…if it happens, it happens (and it won’t happen very often), but enjoy the process. These kids gave us great thrills all year.

by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

well said

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 21, 2010 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

good question.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree with people that we lacked toughness and even focus

We lacked an ability to play well against slow it down teams that shoot well from three.

Honestly, have we EVER played well against teams like this?

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

The way this day has played out, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if a team like West Virginia or Michigan State win it all now.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Thats the sickening thing

KState or someone like that will be in the final 4 or win the thing. Someone that we’ve beaten or would beat

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t care who wins it all, I just don’t want Kentucky winning it.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

same here.

i loathe calpari and his sellout tactics of loading up on one and done miscreants.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Mar 20, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely a wide open year.

We could have anyone get a little hot streak and get the title.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh not Thuggins please

Anyone but Kentucky, WV, or DOOK is ok with me now. Even the ’cuse winning

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a Cal fan, I hope they play against Dook like they did against Louisville.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

How would that be?

Everyone ragging on the Pac10 all year and then Cal wins it all… lol

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well..........

Washington is already in the Sweet 16. Hopefully Cal can get their tomorrow.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love Sherron a lot

But we win this game with last year’s Sherron. His regression the second half of this year was startling. How many games lately has he shot something like 5-16 from the floor?

We need guys who can knock down shots. I’m tired of watching Taylor shoot WIDE OPEN threes and not even coming close.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

In the Big 12 conference

I’d hoped we’d seen the debut of “okay I’m serious about winning this shit now” Collins. I guess not.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No he was serious about winning it

He just didn’t play well. Hes shot like 20 percent from 3, can’t finish in the lane and turns the ball over. Our post players and other guards bailed him out a lot the end of the year. If we had last year’s Sherron (39% shooter from 3, etc) were in the final 4.

We depended on him a lot and he played some of the worst ball of his career when it mattered most. Frustrating

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do wonder if he's beat up? Knee or shoulder or ankle

Like you said he hasn’t been Sherron since middle of the season.

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

This just reminded of everything I'd read in November and December about Reesing.

Shit.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I thought about that a little while ago.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can understand his knicked up a bit, but not buying it for his play

He was bruised last year and still scored 32 points in our first round tourney game and continued to shoot well all year. He isn’t limping out there, he just wasn’t making shots.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

he kept shooting them. Sherron has shown an ability to recover from a poor start and make clutch shots late, but when T2 bricked his first open 3 attempt, he should not have taken another.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its even more frustrating to watch KState

Pullen will hit half his threes. Clemente at least a third of them. SHerron? 0-6

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just imagine what happened to his draft stock?

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sherron on Ali's Shot

If you can stomach to watch the replay again, look for Sherron. If he had run hard OR even if he had gone toward Ali rather than drifting toward the lane, Ali would not have shot it.

Jayhawks played with intensity for 3 minutes. That’s not enough at this level.

by StLCat on Mar 21, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair, it was just almost enough.

by sax solo on Mar 21, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Sherron was tired

It’s a long season. Look at Scottie Reynolds. Same thing. Stud guard, just fell off the cliff the last seven or eight games. I think they just had tired legs, and maybe tired emotionally from knowing they had to be “the man” in order for the team to win. A couple more stud seniors on this team, and I think it’s a different story.

by luvthosehawks on Mar 21, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

good of a time as any to mention my possible jinx

I had a birthday about a month ago, my wife was going to buy me a new kansas hat. I told her to wait until april to “see whats available then”

by fizzle406 on Mar 20, 2010 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

we are on every front page for good reason

Shouldn’t lose in the second round when you are the top team in the country. ever.

Then again we shouldn’t have lost to Bucknell. Or Bradley.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the thing about being a KU fan.

You know there will be disappointments, yes, but there will be more greatness too.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep as i told my wife ... there's always next year.

Maybe not having the highest expectations and pressure put on us will be good.

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it just hurts more when you are a one seed

30whatever and 2, 15-1 Big12, etc etc.

As a 3/4 seed yeah not as bothered. I knew that Bucknell year team had fallen apart and quit on Self and the Bradley year team was young.

This team was….so good though. Ugh.

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were pretty good

but we all knew they had some problems.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

you got that right

We shouldn’t have lost to UCLA in ’07 ( I think ’07)… Damn Self NEVER adjusts to anything

by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame Obama

for picking us. It’s always the politicians fault. :)

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So true!

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man, KGRtC now has the highest Pts. Possible by like 30 because he didn't have KU in the FF.

And, somehow it vaulted me back to the top. Whatever.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess we need a Warden11's Bracket Challenge score update

to restore our will to live.


KCSince88 leads the field, but his army of radioactive mutant underseeds has thinned considerably.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

HERE I COME

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

(what’s TWSS mean? This Will Snot Stand? Then We Shall See?)

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what she said

It’s an Office reference

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok, first time I've laughed sine the end of the KU game.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

since*

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

This isn’t a good year for me and picking brackets.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

UNI >>> kstate?

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do think it's a pace issue.

Look at Iowa State, Nebraska, Cornell. We had to slog them out. This time UNI was better than those teams and took it to us…..

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

And playing a game like today's makes it so hard to get in rhythm

when you’re only getting the ball ever 30-40 seconds.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

UNI did a great job when we sped them up

and started a run, slowing it right back down. We needed to control the tempo and failed.

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

K-State has been overrated all year. No way they make it to the Final 4.

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Guys.

Just came over to offer my condolences (kind of makes this sound like a funeral, which it is, in a way).

Oregon and Tennessee fan here. I still think Kansas was the best team in the country this season, and they just ran into a hot-shooting team that plays with an odd tempo. Those whiteys simply shot the lights out. Northern Iowa and Cornell would make for one hell of a game, huh?

But seriously, I know how much this sucks for you guys right now. I’ve dealt with my share of heartbreaking losses, and it’s tough to get over. Take a day or two to get pissed, then look forward to the future. It’s not as bad as you think. There will be brighter days.

Adios guys.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the words

Best of luck to the Vols in the Sweet 16…. was looking forward to a rematch

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

And if you guys want a team to root on for the rest of the tourney….well…..you know….

:)

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Northern Iowa and Cornell would make for one hell of a game, huh?

Can’t forget about Saint Mary’s. They can throw out a white wash as well. Of course, most of their players are from Australia.

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Don’t worry, as long as Bill sticks around we’ll be fine. This team had a great year, winning the Big 12 by 4 games and getting to win 2000, but the agony and ecstasy of the tournament is that one off day puts you out.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bill Self can't coach his way out of a paper bag

no adjustments; lets Collins run wild and free and doesn’t re-set him. Self is all wonderful when the team is up by 20, but can’t handle the scary times. We were EXTREMELY lucky in ‘08. Don’t expect it again under Self.

by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with MJ

This sucks and some things could have been done better but when the lucky stuff doesn’t fall your way, there’s not much you can do. Also, it’s hard defending a three-point shot that comes from half-a-mile beyond the arc.

Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...

by tequilaprophet on Mar 20, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

resisting a women and sports joke

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by fetch9 on Mar 21, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

may be brighter in Oregon if...

whoEVER is the designated AD has the sense to do what Kanas should have done when Roy left: hire Mark Turgeon – now w/ Texas A & M, took Wichita State to the Sweet 16, and was an assistant at Oregon under Jerry Green (some said that Mark was the only guy on the Green staff who knew what he was doing)

You could tell that Mark was destined to coach as a point for the mid-80’s Jayhawks – smartest guy on the court… called him Turgeon the Surgeon…

by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just curious do you have a crush on Mark Turgeon

Yeah he’s a good coach, but jesus, are being paid to pimp him?

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh honey, I am WAY too old!

… he just does more with less. Self does less w/ more.

by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does more?

What has he done more of? Just curious….

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you forgetting about LAST FUCKING YEAR

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by fetch9 on Mar 21, 2010 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

KU > AandM

Self > The Turg. Good coach. Not Billy Self

Shit happens when you win championships

by Andrew Clark on Mar 20, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talking to Sherron on radio right now.

Voice quivering and crying, audibly.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Where did it go wrong, Sherron?"

“Defense. Just didn’t guard.”

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

http://www.rockchalktalk.com/2010/3/20/1382957/the-end-of-the-road#comments

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

ummm...don't think that's it.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, I mean

http://www2.kusports.com/podcasts/press_conferences_postgame_interviews/2010/mar/20/ku-coach-bill-self/

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

going there now

did anyone ask about pressing?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

They asked Sherron about it.

Not sure about HCBS

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh my god

tennesse fan here just wanted to say omg you guys blew down the stretch and i picked you in my bracket
now i am going to lose

by Chase Milam on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Kthanks, bye.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should tell the Kansas players that (who played in the game)

rather than their fans (who didn’t play) on an internet blog.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn.

That’s rather rational of you KC. Is your GF on the computer again?

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The big bucks that RCT pays have changed my ways

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You and about million other people picked Kansas and are now screwed.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh my god

tennessee fan here just wanted to say omg you’re mature and everyone else picked them too so get over it and stop whining

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pullen is shutting down Jimmer ;-(

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

So...could have used a Pullen today.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

definitely could have used this Pullen today.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or let Tyrel or X shoot

all the 3’s that T2 & Sherron took. :)

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

How 'bouts we never play in Oklahoma City again?

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

and everyone was so excited about it.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

State of Oklahoma: HCBS's kryptonite

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

good thing he doesn't

coach there. he’d have been fired several times by now

Zapp Brannigan/Dayton Moore quote of the day: "[my most important sabermetric stats are] runs scored and runs driven in"

by SagehenMacGyver47 on Mar 21, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mentioned this in the open thread. OKC has been a house of horrors for KU. They also lost as a 1st seed in the 2nd round to Rhode Island back in 1998.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

i hear that!

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Mar 21, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stunned

I didn’t even get to watch to game because I had a tennis tournament. I didn’t believe my sister when she said they lost. I appreciate people who show empathy and don’t just kick us while we’re down. It was still a great season with a really bad ending.

by axbmoore28 on Mar 20, 2010 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

33-3 ain't too shabby.

Just sucks that this will be the way the season is remembered.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

I’ve followed you guys and the team on this blog for the past year and finally decided to comment. This is a goddamn tough loss to deal with but there’s one thing I noticed about this team and that’s that we’ve only got one starter who truly understands what it’s like to be a Jayhawk and the importance of winning games.

I was about to cry until I saw Mario weeping on the floor for well after a minute after the game, Tyrel trying to withhold tears and Marcus needing to be helped up by his teammates. It sucks were losing Sherron, but were going to have a nucleus of determined as fuck players next year with guys like Little, Tyrel, Travis, Thomas, and Elijah understanding what we as fans see as being obvious. The twins will only come back better and I have a feeling Woolridge’ll be a baller.

We wont be as talented next year but with less pressure I think this team will gell a lot better and be a force to be reckoned with.

by Walshdollar on Mar 20, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Keep on comin' back, Walsh.

And, I have to agree about less pressure next year. Although, I can’t bring myself to start thinking about next year yet.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

Thats the only way i can reconcile this loss in my head…

by Walshdollar on Mar 20, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Overall

I still kinda think a 24-hour waiting period to join an SBNation team blog wouldn’t be a bad thing.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

The Seattle Seahawks blog makes you wait for 3 days.

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of the blogs have them.

I know Arrowhead Pride does and Double T Nation. I’m all for outsiders coming in after a game, as long as they are cool. And, if not, they’ll be gone.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of them do have a waiting period

before you can comment. Not a bad idea to weed out the trolls, though we’ve had some newbies make some great comments today also.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'll take the good with the bad and banhammer the bad.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chip Kelly knows a thing or two about banhammering.

Just thought I’d throw that in, since it’s my sig

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both Warden and I have the banhammer now, actually.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I shall show you total respect henceforth.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, no need to.

I’m just waiting for the first profanity-laced troll to come through today. I have a feeling it’ll be a race between me and Warden to hit it first.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

About to have our first winner

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have to say one thing... the college game is flawed.

5 fouls, 40 minutes, and 20-foot three-point arcs? are college athletes REALLY that inferior to NBA athletes? they’re certainly less skilled, but i see no reason why they should be having these rules in place. half these guys are gonna be in the NBA anyways, so why have such drastically different paramaters for the game? all it does is level the playing field for inferior teams.

i’m sick and tired of seeing unqualified refs being given more power by the fact that it only takes 5 fouls to disqualify a player… i’m sick and tired of seeing gimmick offenses thrive on being awarded an extra point for hitting a shot FIVE FEET AWAY from a free throw, and i’m certainly sick of seeing 2 20-minute halves in place of 4 12-minute quarters. times have changed, and the college athlete isn’t just a “little boy” anymore. the rules need to follow suit.

back in the day, there is NO WAY IN HELL a team like northern iowa would even be able to compete with a team featuring 3-4 future NBA-ers on it, but these past few days have made it almost a GIVEN that they indeed can. this is not good for the game.

by Danny Satan on Mar 20, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure I disagree that the college game could be changed for the better

but I don’t think it’s a bad thing that teams like UNI can win these games. I’d rather see the end of one-and-dones and less emphasis on recruitment of future pros.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, the fact UNI can beat a 1 seed

in the second round is what makes the tournament thrilling. I would love to dump the 1 & done rule also. If guys want to go pro out of high school(or prep school) go right ahead.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

For one, I think the college game needs to adopt the NBA no-charge circle. It wouldn’t stop the screaming about what’s a charge and what’s not, but it would sure help.

by JoeVandalFTW on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what a charge is anymore.

I mean NO idea.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll go a step farther and say charging should be eliminated from the game.

it should either be a no-call or a defensive foul. force players to actually make a defensive play instead of just standing in the way.

you could still call offensive fouls for moving screens or players pushing off in mid-air, but the charge is ruining the game on all levels

by Danny Satan on Mar 20, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Not good for the game"

One could also say that allowing a team sport to be turned into a “give the superstar the ball and watch him go one-on-five” is not good for the game either.

by JoeVandalFTW on Mar 20, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

indeed one could.

but i think the fact that the NCAA is such an obvious feeding ground for the NBA is one that can no longer be ignored, and the rules should reflect this.

by Danny Satan on Mar 20, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You say reflect

I say correct.

The NBA has farm leagues, right? Let them use them, FFS.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

you and i both know that will never happen though.

the nba treats the NBDL about as seriously as the NFL treats the CFL.

by Danny Satan on Mar 20, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

The rule that really bothers me...

Is the shot clock. It’s absurd that women’s basketball plays with a 30 second clock, while the men play with 35.

Also, add in the arc under the hoop like they have in the NBA. You shouldn’t get an incentive to sit under the basket and hurt guys that are trying to attack the basket.

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by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Mar 20, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Bill Self:

didn’t want to press in the first half because of having 6 team fouls and UNI’s a good shooting team. Didn’t just take the press off the table but also made KU use less pressure in the 1st half.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

*good free throw shooting team

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

more thoughts:

67 points isn’t bad against this team. More inability to grab offensive rebounds.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright, I just took Fescoe's bait on Twitter.

I feel we may get into it.

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

what'd he say now?

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

#sherroncollins was awful in his final game 0-6 from 3 pt range? Really? what a way to go out

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't waste your time on him

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too late.

I took it.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

..... as if that's NOT awful?

look, i love sherron as much as any KU guard i’ve ever seen… i’d actually have him ahead of Jacque. but to say he wasn’t putrid in this game would just be ignoring the facts

by Danny Satan on Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

don’t know how you can be angry at someone that says that

by jco8394 on Mar 20, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Poor Hawks..

KU chokes again.. KU fans please don’t start asking for Self to be fired!!

TB

by tbonetiger on Mar 20, 2010 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Geez, show a little maturity.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, these are missouri fans.

We expect this. Hence why no one is freaking out on him. It validates our superiority to them.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like how he mentions "choking again"...

Tell me, tbone, when was the last time Missouri made the Final Four? Oh, wait, what was that? Never, you say?

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're welcome here at RCT anytime, TQA :)

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by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good win for Tennessee today btw!

I picked you guys for our Bracket Challenge.

Frankly I think the inconsistency is a little charming, and I thought that if you guys pulled it together you could make a great run.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

We would never.

HCBS is the best coach in the game. I’ll take that any day of the week.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only coach I would take over Bill Self is Tom Izzo, but that’s it.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

for crying out loud....

Self racks up recruits and stats… Teaches the game, and when all is well, coaches well, but under stress, HE DOES NOT adjust. Don’t believe me? See for yourself (pun intended…) Take a look at the tourney 1st round exits in ‘05, ’06 and the loss to UCLA in ’07. Look at this year’s games against TN, OSU and today.

If he had a clue about answering, don’t you think he might have taken Collins out to give him a blow, some encouragement and some direction??

That game was lost on the bench.

by Carla Hanson on Mar 20, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow you might need to take a break. I think this game pushed you over the edge

You seriously think that anyone could have beaten OSU that day the way they were shooting?

When it comes down to it, it’s the players that play the game, not Self. No matter how much you want to scream and shout that NCHCBS SUXXORS doesn’t make it so, especially with his track record at 3 different schools.

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The loss to UCLA?

Self can’t make layups.

The loss to Bradley? They shot like double their average from 3

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by fetch9 on Mar 21, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

On behalf of more classy Mizzou fans

Tough loss for you all, you have my empathy. While I can’t deny (as a rival) that I wasn’t terribly disappointed by your loss, I do know how it feels and would not try to rub it in.

Big XII regular season and tourney champions is a great season, and you all will have a great team again next year. I look forward to Missouri’s (hopeful? possible? unlikely?) return to perennial ranked team status where we offer a legitimate challenge to KU’s Big XII dominance.

As long as you have BIll Self, you will have chances to win it all almost every year, and THAT is an incredible blessing for KU fans that I never have (will?) enjoy.

P.S. Cole Aldridge, please go pro!

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by BigMOman on Mar 20, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

appreciate the words BigMO...

I’m sure both MU and KSU fans enjoy this one as they should, but it’s always good to remain classy about it…thanks.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Mar 20, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the CBS President hung himself, now that a potential Kansas-Kentucky final is out of the window?

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Speaking of which, we need to put an APB out on JFOX....

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If that was the case

then you’d have thought both KU and UK would’ve gotten easier brackets…..

I'm Your Huckleberry.

by Carl C on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This sounds weird

but in a very twisted way, I’m glad the year is over. Every possession this season felt tight. There was something magical about last year’s team and how loose we all were with it. This year, and this isn’t the first time I’ve talked about this, we all felt like we HAD to win the championship. Like winning a championship was the only way this season was going to be any kind of a success.

Let’s be realistic. Winning the NC is hard. We had the pieces this year and it still wasn’t enough. Every tournament features one or two teams who are vastly underrated in the seeding and turn into a buzzsaw come tournament time. We happened to run into that team today and even playing a very, very mediocre game, we damn near one this.

I will say I feel absolutely sick for Sherron Collins. A storied career and a guy that will probably always be THE #4 in my mind in Kansas Basketball. I hate seeing him go out like this and he deserved better. Unfortunately, he had every opportunity to put this team on his shoulders and carry us onward past the pesky Panthers and he flat failed. I hate that my lasting memory of Sherron Collins will be this game. I just wanna go back to OU game last year and freeze time. Much love, 4.

Fuck today.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   3 recs

Agreed

A lot of pressure on this team all year. They were the favorites at the beginning of the year to win it all and had to deal with that all year.

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

This is why I wanted to win the Senior Night game so, so bad. You can’t play with the NC in mind, I don’t really think. And long term, I think winning that Senior Night game would be something the players could look back on fondly, no matter how they did in the tournament.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow self's body language very PISSED in the press conference.

Didn’t come across like that in the audio, but gritted teeth and closed arms… understandably pissed

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you shocked?

I’m doing all I can to be accept this loss but if I was the coach, I’d be real pissed at this outcome. A lot of the bad habits we saw this year came out today and it knocked them out in the first weekend.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't pick that up in the audio either

going to have to try and catch it on television.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Self is a controlled motherfucker.

by sax solo on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's hope he takes his revenge

by coaching at Kansas another 20 years and getting 4 more National titles.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would think

That as a Cubs fan, I’d be used to this, but this is feeling more worse than any experience I’ve had with the Cubs. Or maybe it’s just because it’s only 2 hours after.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 20, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Chiefs, Royals, Tigers

At least KU is reliable to compete every year

by MichiganJayHawk on Mar 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, that’s because Kansas is actually expected to win Championships.

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

you and me both, wrigley

Lifetime Cubs fan and, wait for it, Vikings fan, too. It’s been a rough couple months where championship games is concerned.

Operation Final Four is a go. Proceed to target.

by Bensa on Mar 20, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're cute.

Can I take you home and play with you?

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Slam is the resident troll fucking-with-er......person......guy here.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 20, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

But mooooooooooooommmmmmmmmm

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Belmont?

That was you missouri, actually. If you’re gonna troll, at least come correct.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean THIS

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

False.

Clearly he meant this

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Missouri looked pretty good against Navy last December

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by Jason Kirk on Mar 20, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

They really do hang themselves, don't they?

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahaahaha.

Troll fail GET. Listen, dude. If you’re going to mock our choke history, at least take some pride in your work.

For real, though. You’re making me feel a lot better, brah. No matter how much this stings, I still have a national championship shirt in my closet that’s giggling at you right now.

Can we be friends, man? I like you a lot. I feel like I could learn a lot from you.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consider this your warning.

Keep it up and you’re done here.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Warden

You make me laugh. You put on the teacher pants to type that out, didn’t you?

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

See what I mean?

Don’t deprive Slam of this guy.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would hope

he’s a helluva lot tougher on his students.

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's the problem

haven’t been able to harass any students all week and I’m just getting trigger happy.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, I'm kinda enjoying it.

Let it play out, Warden. Slam’s having too much fun.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not.

I’ve got no problem with someone having some fun but I’m not reading this shit all night.

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can agree with that.

Besides, I don’t wanna deprive Warden of using the

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should be packing

but I always like seeing shiny new toys in the store and I just….I just…I WANT IT.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spray this KU fans

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

Maybe I’m just drowning my extreme pain in humor, but Warden, I totally picture this as a real life representation of you right now.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   3 recs

LMAO

Slam is the best possible therapy after a tournament loss.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just spit my beer all over my keyboard you fucker

Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.

People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.

by Warden11 on Mar 20, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

TELL ME

that isn’t you.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe I’m just drowning my extreme pain in humor

That’s how us Cal fans deal with defeat. And trust me when I say this, we have to deal with defeat all the time. Except in Rugby.

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Though it probably looks a helluva lot more like my brother than Warden.(do I know you Slam?)

by hunter s. royal on Mar 20, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone knows me!

I’m the guy who shows up after the season after basically abandoning SB Nation because of migraines and starts crackin wise with trolls and admins alike.

Also, go Baylor.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Mar 20, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

so who's the starting 5 for next year?

Withey or Markieff at center? marcus and mario at the 4 and 3, then tyshawn and elijah at the guard spots?

by Danny Satan on Mar 20, 2010 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll talk about this in a month.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Mar 20, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If your immersed in the Cubs, then you’ll be back in a month.

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by 49er16 on Mar 20, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions