One More on X: How Does He Compare to...
Xavier Henry might have walked into the toughest job in the nation when he switched his commitment to Kansas over the summer. He became a freshman that pushed Kansas from National Title contenders to favorites. He was going to be a one and done. He would challenge John Wall for Freshman of the Year and possible National Player of the Year. Today, you'll find many fans who wonder if he should still be starting. It's not a viewpoint without merit, he has seen his points per game and minutes drop significantly the last month. Through the first 18 games, he never played less than 20 minutes a game. He's dipped below 20 minutes in three of the last five games. During non-conference play, he failed to score in double digits once. In Big 12 play, he has failed to make double digits 6 times in eight games. How did we get here? Is he less productive than similar players?
Hype and the non-conference didn't do Xavier any favors for what he is dealing with now. Between daddy Henry talking and Xavier demolishing scrub Division I teams, KU fans bought in. We had a legitimate one and done player, maybe more than another scoring option. Xavier was our scorer! Looking back through the box scores, I see point totals like 27, 19, 18, 16, and 31 points. Unfortunately for Xavier, La Salle and Oakland don't play in the Big 12. Henry did score 11 against Memphis early in the season in his first big game. He scored 16 against UCLA and 15 against Michigan. The scoring was starting to dip a little bit but nothing to be worried about. Well, Big 12 play starts and we see 6, 14, 12, 4, 9, 6, 3, and 9 points. Is it just a shooting slump or is Xavier struggling against better athletes that can take away his left and close out quicker to challenge shots? I don't know, just thought that was very interesting.
Xavier has stepped up his rebounding and defense lately to help compensate for his struggles on the offensive end. At least that's what fans are saying, maybe he is or maybe we are searching for something positive to say about Henry right now. To try and answer that question, I graphed his points per game and his plus/minus together so we can see how they relate to each other. If he is improving the other areas of his game as his scoring is going down, his graph should reflect that.
Unfortunately, his graph doesn't really reflect that. Three things really stand out to me when looking at this. First, Henry hasn't had a game where his +/- outperforms his point total. This isn't a terrible thing because of the slight gunner's tax. However, in a game where he isn't scoring I would like to see him bump his +/- by getting some rebounds, steals, or assists. That doesn't appear to be happening. Second, his +/- seems totally dependent on his scoring. To me, that's not good either (correlation is .834 and in Big 12 play it is .821). The third and maybe most obvious thing, this looks like a slope I could ski down. As mentioned earlier, Xavier was lights out against the inferior competition. As the season has gone on, his production has continued to drop.
Part 2: How does Xavier Henry compare to players from other programs in similar roles?
I asked KC and fetch9 for player recommendations and received six names back. KC gave me Dominique Sutton (KSU), Corey Stokes (Villanova), Darnell Dodson (Kentucky), Chris Allen (Michigan State), and Darryl Bryant (West Virginia). fetch9 simply replied "Well I think Xavier should basically just try to be Morningsleeves." So I went ahead and graphed all of these guys to see how their numbers compared to Henry's numbers. If you don't like the players I used, blame those guys or suggest somebody in the comments and I'll take a look.
Surprised to see his +/- and points so closely related. I figured he'd grab enough boards and steals to spread that out a little bit more. He does have three games where his +/- is higher than his point total. Four games with a negative +/-.
Numbers don't show a strong correlation. Two games where his +/- is higher than his point total. He also has 6 games with a negative +/-.
Back to showing a fairly strong correlation. Two games where his +/- ends higher than his point total. Three games in the negative but they were early, seems to be playing better as of late.
Pretty strong correlation again. Only one game where his +/- ends higher than his point total. Five games in the negative on the +/-.
Correlation is lower again. His +/- is higher than his point total for two games. 6 games in the negative on the +/-.
Brady's numbers don't show a strong correlation, which shouldn't surprise us. His game is built on doing everything on the basketball court. He grabs a few boards, gets a few steals, and a couple of assists while scoring points when he's open. His +/- is higher than his point total 9 times. He only has one game in the negative on the +/- chart.
(Update)
One last graph comparing the average +/- total for the players I used here. I didn't do a very good job of saying that Xavier Henry is more productive than other players who share similar roles. To highlight this point, I threw out Xavier's top TWO +/- totals to show he still averages a higher +/- than the other guys except Morningstar.
Conclusion: Xavier Henry's production matches up with the guys looked at here. His +/- is mostly dependent on his scoring and I'd like to see him be more like Morningstar (+1 for fetch9). However, he has stayed out of the negatives more than all of the non-Jayhawks presented here. Staying out of the negative could be a result of a few things- 1) when he's not hitting, Kansas doesn't have to count on him to shoot his way out of it or 2) he does just enough elsewhere on the court to offset his shooting woes to keep him out of the negative. Either way, it makes me feel a lot better about the team as a whole. With Xavier playing like he has, the Jayhawks are undefeated in Big 12 play. If can catch fire (hopefully tonight and March), this team will be damn tough to beat.
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I think the biggest thing...
you’ve reiterated here is that when Xavier is struggling from the field, which he has been for some time now, he just isn’t contributing enough in other ways right now. That’s what makes Brady a player that everyone can rally around, he may not be a prolific scorer but he is selective, productive and a solid all around basketball player.
Is it possible that the Brady v X comparison is a smaller example of why upsets happen in the tourney. Players with a better understanding of the game and ability to contribute at all levels overcoming a more talented group that doesn’t concern themselves with the little things.
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I'd buy that (your last paragraph)
I think a lot of it too though is time spent in a program. You can be an average to good player, and after a few years in Self’s program you are a starter on the #1 team and a productive role player. To even further that, if you have a ton of talent and spend a few years under Self, you are going to go to the NBA
by Andrew Clark on Feb 8, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Adding to your Tourney Upset point
You are right. I am of the opinion that some of the best basketball in the world is played in college. The problem is that a player like Morningstar will never be able to play in the NBA because he isn’t athletic enough. The athleticism required to play in the NBA is so high that even really good b-ball players can’t make it in the league. (not that I am trying to call Morningstar a really good basketball player, but try to find a difference between Stars role with KU and what Ron Harper’s was with the Bulls)
Obviously, in the NBA the most athletic players that are also good basketball players eventually rise to the top. Look at LeBron. When he came into the league he was just big and strong. But over the last two seasons he has learned that basketball isn’t all shooting and rebounding, you see him move the ball a little more (not just for the assist) and play help side defense.
Okay, that was a rabbit trail. My point is that I used to like watching the NBA because it was good basketball played with more athleticism than college basketball. Now, well all of the high school and underclassmen have dilluted the basketball talent with athletic talent. Henry will do the same thing if he leaves after this year. He really has the talent to be a special player and if he is willing to learn how to play basketball in college, it will benefit him greatly in his Pro career.
The athleticism required to play in the NBA is so high that even really good b-ball players can’t make it in the league.
Dead on with this one. If you ever get a chance, sit close at an NBA game…as close as you can get to the floor. You will be blown away at how fast the game is played. It give a whole different perspective, but you are correct in that it isn’t always fundamental in nature.
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The fundamentals are everything in the NBA
It just so happens that the best teams are the best fundamental teams also. Take Cleveland. They didn’t get better because they got more athletic, they got better because they added skilled players around LeBron (Mo Williams, Shaq, Varajeo, West)
That aside, the reason I love college basketball is since athleticism hasn’t gotten out of control, you run into coach driven games of varying style. Coaches are able to take players of varying skill and maximize those skills in different styles of play, (ie – Missorui v. Colorado v. K-State, etc.) In the NBA only some skills are applicable to the high speed high athleticism of the pro game. Sadly, Xavier probably has the skills to play the pro game while lacking many of the skills necessary to play HCBS game.
Yes and no. We would love to see him contribute more outside of scoring like Morningstar.
I was also hoping to show that he still outproduces the other guys I’ve listed here. Made an update to emphasize that part.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
I had no idea what you were asking me yeserday
I was sooooo out of it haha
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I have one small quibble with the +/- system we use:
I think it over-emphasizes FTAs. Missed free throws are bad, there’s no doubt about that. But does a missed free throw hurt you just as much as a turnover? I don’t think so. If you get to the line and miss both shots, you’ve still done some damage to the opponent in getting them another foul.
Plus, imagine this scenario: A player scores 10 points in a game by going 10/10 from the line. He adds nothing else to the game, nor does he take anything away. Does he really deserve a plus/minus of 0 for that game? He put up ten points and drew five fouls on his opponent. That’s a positive contribution, isn’t it?
I’m not saying that missed free throws should be removed from the system, because they definitely can be devastating to a team in certain situations (see the Colorado game). But maybe they need to be weighted a bit less than just as bad as turnovers? Just a thought.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 8, 2010 2:20 PM CST reply actions
Well, 10/10 from the line
would result in a +10 because a player receives a +1 for every point they get. If a guy makes just 50% from the line, they will get a 0. Anything over that results in a positive.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
So...can we end the Xavier silliness yet?
Or does he need another great performance in another one of the biggest games of the season before we cut the freshman some slack?
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 9, 2010 1:54 PM CST reply actions
the silliness like this?
Xavier Henry is more productive than other players who share similar roles. To highlight this point, I threw out Xavier’s top TWO +/- totals to show he still averages a higher +/- than the other guys except Morningstar.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
speaking of plus/minus...
I’m guessing last night ended up looking pretty good for a few guys.
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I haven't done it yet, planned on doing that tonight.
But just off the top of my head- Xavier and McMorris should be tops, Sherron will be up there as well because of his free throws at the end. Cole might have had his worst output of the season.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
I was thinking...
Xavier, McMorris and Markeiff would all measure up pretty good actually. I’ll FP it tomorrow if you have it ready.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
/drinks bitter beer
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The people have spoken...
the plus minus was something people liked seeing. I’m all for front paging stuff when it get’s rec’d, it’s topical and timely.
Didn’t I front page something of yours already? We could always start a front page friday where we FP the best contribution if people want to? Other sites do it, we just go in spurts sometimes around here.
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That would require regular posts every week.
Hint hint, Grad and fetch ;)
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done and done
I was much too busy getting caught up on One Tree Hill. wait, what?
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