When Cole Aldrich Plays, Kansas is Better and Mid-Term Grades
It's really as simple as that first statement. Yes, I'm aware that that may, in fact, be the most obvious, biggest understatement of the college basketball season. Earlier in the year, when he was struggling - bronchitis and the loss of his grandmother - it was nearly as if he wasn't playing, really. Sure, opponents had to game plan for him, but he wasn't the Cole Aldrich that we all expected to see coming into the season.
In Saturday's game against Nebraska, he was literally not there for 75 percent of the first half; he had two fould within the first five minutes and was relegated to the bench for the remainder. Jeff Withey came in and played a very valiant nine minutes in Cole's absence. It was nice to see Jeff and oft-struggling freshman Thomas Robinson log some consecutive, relevant minutes with Aldrich on the bench. Those two, particularly Robinson, are going to be very good; probably sooner rather than later, too. That's great for the future. But, let's just be honest with ourselves right now - we came into this season with National Title hopes, once again, and Withey And Robinson playing more minutes in a half than Cole isn't going to get us there.
The first half score with Kansas playing fifteen minutes sans Cole: 37-33 Kansas. Second half score with Cole playing sixteen minutes: 38-32 Kansas, with a maximum lead of eighteen. Coincidence? Probably not. I won't go into the X's and O's breakdown of why Cole has such an impact and what his abilities and size force opponents to do to try and "contain" him. Having a borderline 7-footer in the college game is a huge advantage. We all know that. So, we'll simply leave it at "Kansas is better when Cole Aldrich plays/plays well."
Now, as far as a postgame recap goes, this was an extremely frustrating game. But, I find myself having the same gripes and complaints from game to game. i.e. Xavier Henry is struggling so bad; he can't shoot or dribble, Cole needs to get the ball more, turnovers are going to hurt this team, we need to make our free throws, stop doubling down on post players and leaving shooters open, etc. So, I'm going to refrain from copy-pasting any postgame recap from the last ten games or so and do something different tonight.
Hit the jump to find out what....
State of the 'Hawks
(where the Jayhawks are now, where they need to be by season's end and how they can get there.)
Since we are at exactly the halfway point of conference play, now is the obvious time to take a look and hand out mid-term grades, in relevance of what they are capable of doing; not just how well they have done.
Sherron Collins - When things get tough, Collins is the one who is not only looked to to stabilize the bunch, but he is also the one that asserts himself as that guy. He may get a bit out of control at times and try to do too much, but it's only because his teammates expect him to do so. He sometimes disappears and just acts as floor general at times, which is from time to time, exactly what the team needs. He knows his place and job. He does it. Assuming that everbody has a ceiling of potential for their career and season, we'll call the ceiling "10." Where Sherron is: 9.5.
Brady Morningstar - When Brady came back from his first semester suspension, he was immediately inserted into the floor rotation and given valuable minutes each game. His presence on the floor and the things he does can often not be measured in the boxscore or even in postgame reports. He just does what the team needs him to do. Where Brady is: 8.5.
Xavier Henry - Ugh. He's so frustrating. He is still playing defense at a very high effort level. You have to give him that. While most other freshman phenoms would just disappear down the bench, he continues to earn minutes, thanks to effort and his defense. Prediction: He'll be back next year. (cue explosion during the NCAA tournament, in whice he scores 25 points per game.) Where Xavier is: 3.0.
Marcus Morris - Nobody has improved more form last year. His current form is off the charts. (17.6 points per game, 8.5 rebounds per game in conference play) He has long become the third offensive option behind Sherron and Cole. He scores more than Cole, but the offense still runs through Cole, so he's still the number two. Marcus' only real downfall of late is occasional foul trouble. Where Marcus is: 8.5. (could go down at any moment)
Cole Aldrich - "Kansas is better when Cole Aldrich plays/plays well." Right now, he has been good of late, with the exception of early foul trouble tonight. He can still get better, though. Where Cole is: 7.5.
Tyshawn Taylor - Frustrating Guard 2.0. Moments of brilliance followed by moments of utter frustration. It's nearly half and half. Where Tyshawn is: 5.0.
Markieff Morris - He's not nearly as improved as twin Marcus, but he shoots a high percentage and when he decides to stay under the five foul limit, he gives good minutes. Three blocks against Nebraska were a nice surprise and came at key moments. Where Markieff is: 6.5
Tyrel Reed - He shoots threes. He does so well. That's what he does. Nearly 75 percent of his field goal attempts are from three. He plays acceptable defense and and doesn't turn the ball over. Also, he brings the ball up court well in spell of Sherron or Tyshawn. Where Tyrel is: 7.0.
Thomas Robinson - You can see the potential there. He's so exuberant when on the floor and just wants to do right by his coach. He gets overly excited, though, at times and makes silly mistakes. That will get worked out. Having him as a reliable ten minutes per game kind of backup for the tournament run would be a huge asset if head coach Bill Self wanted to slide a Morris to the three and play big for a few minutes. Where Thomas is: 4.5.
Jeff Withey - 95 percent of college coaches would give an arm to have one 7-footer. What would they give to have two? It was very refreshing to see him receive more minutes against Nebraska and play well. As the (incredibly awesome) announcers stated, he is more athletic than I had ever hoped. Not much was expected of him this year, so really, anything he gives is icing on top. Where Jeff is: 6.5.
Elijah Johnson - Is anybody 100 percent sure he is still alive? It seems forever since he's seen multiple minutes back to back. It would be nice to see him more often, but I do suppose coach Self knows better than I/us, right? Where Elijah is: 3.0.
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Sorry I missed the thread
I’m in Lawrence. Glad we started playing KU basketball towards the end. Rock Chalk!
Henry
Ever since I labeled his play “Giddens-esque” I have been waiting for a breakout return to form and it just isn’t coming. At some point we will have to say that it isn’t going to come and the player whose numbers were being compared to John Wall’s just isn’t going to come back around to form. KC nailed it when he said he “can’t shoot or dribble.” In basketball, those two things are very important. I fear he may be what he is for this season which is a role player.
"When you play happy, good things will happen"-Elvis Andrus
I thought about that yesterday.
Maybe it’s time for another Giddens-Henry numbers breakdown. The more this goes on, the less KGRtC can argue that they are becoming one in the same.
I know it sucks to lump him in with J.R. because, well…for obvious reasons, but the fact is that Xavier has regressed so far that you would wonder why exactly he is playing at all for the #1 team in the country if you didn’t know of the high potential beforehand and probably just HCBS waiting and anticipating him to break out again.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
so...
if Xavier is just a role player…where does that leave this team. It was when X signed that this team suddenly became a sure fire national title contender. Without him what was the view of Kansas? That’s about where we stand now, so I’d be curious if the expectations should be different.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
Marcus Morris
When Xavier signed/committed/came (whatever it was that he did), no one had ANY IDEA that Marcus would improve the way he has. IMO, that nearly (and in some ways) trumps that, because having not only one, but two bigs that can score for you is an asset most teams don’t have.
I think we can get by with the smart play of Brady at the 2 and 3 if Marcus keeps up this level of production. That may be asking a lot, but yet every game he goes out and just does it again.
Tyshawn coming back around and playing efficiently would be huge negation of the lack of Xavier, too.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
see for me...
I always assumed Tyshawn would play very well this year which he has not necessarily so that’s an additional blow to those initial expectations in my head. Marcus is a plus…but Tyshawn and Xavier have been a big drag.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
The more this goes on, the less KGRtC can argue that they aren’t becoming one in the same.
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
Just because something feels right in your gut for some strange reason, doesn’t mean it has any basis in reality. And why is this comparison presumed to be correct? Why is the burden of proof on me to prove that J.R. Giddens isn’t somehow Xavier Henry’s basketball doppleganger?
Why don’t you run the numbers on some other famous forwards we’ve had as freshmen and see how they match up- say Pierce and Manning? Hell, maybe he’s a carbon copy of Darrin Hancock for all we know.
Here’s your stats comparison, by the way:
By the end of this season, Xavier is on pace to have more points, rebounds, over twice as many assists, over twice as many steals, and over three times as many free throws attempted as J.R. Giddens did his freshman year.
Can we please stop this foolishness now?
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 7, 2010 2:27 AM CST up reply actions
With every passing poor game,
he is getting closer and closer. That’s all I’m saying. Maybe run a comparison of conference numbers because those are the ones that really matter…
"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin
by Andy Edwards on Feb 7, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I'll take a gander after the season for ya, KGRTC
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Except that he hasn’t regressed. He’s just in a shooting slump. His defense gets better every game- he’s even starting to show an ability to play the passing lanes as he comes to understand offensive concepts better (and thus how to exploit them). He still attacks the boards and usually makes the smart pass.
He outscored Cole Aldrich today. To suggest he has no business playing for KU is ridiculous. Who would you rather have out there? Tyrel? Really? Here’s all you need to know about that comparison:
FTAs:
Reed: 4
X: 72
Oh, and let’s toss these in:
Freshman Giddens: 27 on the season
Sophomore Giddens: 25 on the season
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 7, 2010 2:06 AM CST up reply actions
Shooting slump
His “slump” is over 2 months long at this point. That looks more like a resume to me.
"When you play happy, good things will happen"-Elvis Andrus
In defense of X tonight,
I thought Brady had one of his few bad games this year, and really hung him out to dry. He was lobbing the ball to X, then skipping off to the other side of the court so when X was doubled, he had no outlet. X needs to shoot the ball if he’s open when he first gets it, or immediately get rid of it, and that option wasn’t there too much tonight. I was encouraged that his shot looked better, but it’s too late in the year for him to change his game. He’s getting better playing D and hitting the boards, but the other guards need to realize he needs an outlet.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 6, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
It's too late to improve?
His D and rebounding are improving, but his O can’t?
This makes no sense to me.
X came to KU in large part to learn D (I believe this is part of what he was alluding to in some of his recruiting comments.), and he is learning it well. I suspect that his O will return as he becomes more comfortable with the other developing parts of his game. It could still happen this year. Maybe it won’t happen til next year, but the fat babe hasn’t sung yet.
I don't think X can change
his offensive game much in the middle of the year, other than making better decisions on when to shoot or not. He’s only comfortable dribbling with his left hand, which Big 12 opponents have figured out and adjusted for, so his ability to drive to the hoop is going to be limited.
He’s got more room for improvement on defense because that’s clearly not emphasized on the AAU level where the best players get most of their playing time, and certainly is emphasized on his current coaching staff.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 7, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
good observation wrt his hand
Is that what you mean by “it’s too late in the year for him to change his game”? He can’t significantly improve using his right hand during the season?
It’s rather obvious that you don’t think X can change his offensive game. You said as much the first time. It just seemed like a rather bleak perspective without much substance. I seem to recall another 6-6 one handed guy playing well for KU a few years ago. Maybe there is more that a one-handed SF can do on O and have a positive impact; even be a leading scorer.
I don't think Brandon Rush...
was remotely as incapable of using his right as Xavier appears to be.
52 Conference Championships!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!
I have little doubt X can improve
as much as Brandon Rush if he sticks around another couple years. I’ll stick with my thought that he can improve his offense most the rest of the year by working to get open and shooting when he first gets the ball. If he’s not open, he needs to get rid of the ball rather than trying to force something he’s not comfortable with.
by hunter s. royal on Feb 7, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Xavier Henry is better than J.R. Giddens.
He can do so much more on the basketball court than Giddens ever could. He is in a slump. A bad slump. Maybe (and I don’t know because I don’t have his high school numbers) the only slump he has ever been in. He will come out of it. One of my biggest fears ( for him and KU basketball) is that he figures it out in the tournament, goes for something like 20 ppg, and then bolts for the NBA. He could learn so much more spending another year or two under Self. You don’t learn much basketball in the NBA. On the other hand, if he does do that in the tournament then KU probably wins the title. I might be able to live with that.
Finally, someone with some sense around here!
Although I would say you can learn a lot about basketball in the NBA, but only if you push yourself to do so (see Kobe and Lebron continuing to add new facets to their games each year).
I agree though, at this point X could use another year. He needs to spend a summer on the Morris training program and get a little leaner and more explosive. That, plus a tightened up dribble, and he’s a lottery pick in 2011, no doubt.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 7, 2010 2:31 AM CST up reply actions
This.
Although I would say you can learn a lot about basketball in the NBA
We’re here because we are college baskteball fans but we have to admit that if a guy has the mind and ability for the NBA, that’s the best place for him to improve his game. So many more games, practices, coaches, and resources there to help the guy improve, it should be obvious. College should help to a kid understand that he isn’t God’s gift to basketball and that things go better when he does what he is coached to do.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
at this point X could use another year
Fortunately, we aren’t at the point of deciding/the end of the year.
It is still very possible for all the lessons X has been learning to make sense, and finally start to click. I’m not sure he is capable of scoring 20 ppg on this team – there are only so many pts available. His O could very easily become more reliable, so that we have 4 players consistently at 15 ppg.
If the latter happens, he is indeed ready for the NBA.
It is interesting to live in an NBA city.
There is so much commentary on there being SO much more to learn for the NBA game.
It’s not about practices or fundamentals. There is much less of that development, which in my mind is part of the downfall of the NBA game/decision to draft potential, undeveloped players. There apparently (I’m too ignorant and disinterested in the NBA to state authoritatively) is much to learn beyond fundamentals and most of it is done on your own.
The good news for X is that he appears to at least have the mentality to push himself to develop his game. I think there is still a big step remaining this season.
Xavier is a big guy
Anyone else think he should get some touches in the post? If he is playing SG, then let him post up some 6 foot 2 scrub who can capably guard him on the perimeter, but not on the block. I saw him try it one time against CU.
Is that much of his rep?
If X is posting up low, what do you do with Cole and Marcus?
I can see it being advantageous in the NBA, but not sure how it plays out here. Maybe it is something we see develop in the latter part of the season.
MkM at 6.5
would seem to indicate that his ceiling is viewed as similar to McM.
They may be twins, but there are differences. I believe that Coach Self alluded to this way back at the beginning of 2008. As a % of max, I think they are both playing close to the same level. The difference is that McM’s max is just a bit higher.
Withey had a nice game against NU
and one other game earlier this year.
It seems to me that Jeff, Thomas, and Elijah are all at about the same place – practice fodder, and foul desperation subbing. EJ’s problem is just that there are so many more reliable G’s in front of him.
They are learning, and will assume an active support role next year before taking over the reins in 2011. Coach is developing quite the factory.
all this talk about EJ disappearing also overshadows the fact that CJ has been invisible as well.
Is he still hurt?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
Haven't heard much about CJ,
but even if he became healthy, he really hasn’t shown much to warrant a move to the front end of the bench. Too many G’s in front of him at this point in the year. Even when he has been on the court this year, it doesn’t seem like he has done much more than hang around the arc waiting to shoot 3’s. Sort of TReed without the hustle.
I think KU needs Taylor and X playing at a high level to go deep in the NCAA tourney
Hope they keep getting minutes and getting into form
Morris Collins and Morningstar have have top notch
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Sherron and Cole + 1
at a high level (McM fits the bill at the moment), and a half dozen good role players could take them to the FF. It would be nice to have another role player (X?) step up to have a better chance at winning the last one. In ’88, there was a different role player each game that stepped up for that game. The story line going in to the last game was, “Who will be the unknown Jayhawk?”




















