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Statistical Rearview: Kansas vs. Oklahoma State

It seemed inevitable.  Running the table for the months of January, February and March would have been extremely difficult and after the way January started, a 13-0 conference start probably seemed a stretch.  Still the Jayhawks went into Stillwater the favorites and were greeted by the first sellout crowd in 4 years. 

Kansas brings out the best in people, the best from the fans and yesterday the best from the other team.  There were certainly things the Jayhawks could have done better but it's hard to say if they could have done enough.  Plain and simple this one seemed over by the end of the first half.  Oklahoma State was on fire and Kansas didn't have it, in the words of Bill Self, Kansas "sucked". 

Today is a new day, rivalry week part II begins on Wednesday with Kansas State coming to town for senior night.  The most important takeaway from this loss won't have anything to do with what happened on the court in Stillwater.  The most important takeaway will be in how Kansas responds on Wednesday in Lawrence and Saturday in Columbia.

 

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Statistically there isn't much more that can or needs to be said than a 69% eFG% by the Cowboys.  Kansas ended up close to average for their part but still came up slightly short.  Ultimately this boiled down to an off shooting night by Kansas and having zero chance to overcome the blistering shooting of OSU. The question becomes, how much of that was due to poor defense by Kansas and how much of that was unavoidable.  I'd say most would probably fall somewhere in the middle but Coach Self will likely put this squarely on the defense and challenge the team.  This has been an area of concern all season for Kansas, the bad thing is that the next time it pops up it could be the end of the season. 


Other than that, Kansas didn't play horribly.  The Jayhawks took care of the basketball better, they got to the free throw line and on a normal shooting night from OSU, I'd say Kansas probably wins the rebounding battle.  On paper it's a stat that the Cowboys win, but it's a bit of a flawed stat tonight based on the shooting percentages and the way the game was played. 

The biggest problem underneath is that the Cowboys completely neutralized and eliminated Cole Aldrich and the Kansas bigs from being a major factor by jumping out to a big lead and forcing Kansas to chase.  Cole gets a bit lost in a game like this and Kansas can't let that happen to one of the most dominant big men in the game this year.


 

If I were to look at one stat that might be an indicator to the shooting woes it would be the assist column.  Kansas only had 10.  After the Cowboys opened up a big lead the Jayhawks, and often Sherron Collins, tried to win it in one possession.  The last five minutes Kansas looked good, just needed to turn that on 15 or even 35 minutes earlier.

TeamSplit PTSFGMFGAFG%2PM2PA2PT%3PM3PA3PT%FTMFTAFT%OREBDREBREBASTSTLBLKTO
Kansas KU Game Final 77 27 58 46.6 19 38 50.0 8 20 40.0 15 23 65.2 9 17 26 10 13 2 12 20
Oklahoma-state OSU Game Final 85 32 53 60.4 22 34 64.7 10 19 52.6 11 17 64.7 7 29 36 16 8 5 16 21
Kansas KU 1st Half 29 11 28 39.3 9 18 50.0 2 10 20.0 5 11 45.5 6 9 15 5 7 2 9 7
Oklahoma-state OSU 1st Half 45 19 31 61.3 13 20 65.0 6 11 54.5 1 2 50.0 4 16 20 9 7 3 9 11
Kansas KU 2nd Half 48 16 30 53.3 10 20 50.0 6 10 60.0 10 12 83.3 3 8 11 5 6 0 3 13
Oklahoma-state OSU 2nd Half 40 13 22 59.1 9 14 64.2 4 8 50.0 10 15 66.7 3 13 16 7 1 2 7 10
Kansas KU Offense Avg 82 28 59 48.8 21 41 52.6 7 18 40.0 17 24 69.2 13 27 40 17 8 6 12 18
Oklahoma-state OSU Offense Avg 74 25 56 45.2 17 33 51.7 8 23 35.5 15 21 71.5 10 26 36 12 6 2 12 20
Kansas KU Defense Avg 63 22 59 37.6 15 40 39.2 6 18 34.1 12 18 67.7 12 21 33 12 6 3 14 20
Oklahoma-state OSU Defense Avg 67 23 56 41.3 16 37 44.2 6 19 35.8 14 20 68.2 10 23 34 11 5 3 13 19

 

On the individual side of things there isn't a whole lot positive to take away.  The biggest thing for me is hands down the way Oklahoma State took our inside advantage completely out of the game.  Cole was chasing blocks, OSU was passing off for easy dunks.  Long shots were either dropping for the Cowboys or resulting in long rebounds.  Come tournament time, I'll be checking the bracket for a team that is slightly undersized, quicker than Kansas and more athletic than Kansas.  That's a team I'll be rooting against from the get go because I don't want to see our bigs up against a team like Tennessee, A&M or OSU again. 



SMINPTSFGMFGAFG%2PA2PA2P%3PM3PA3P%FTMFTAFT%ORDRREBASTSTLBLKTOPF+/-RR
Kansas S. Collins * 36 22 7 16 43.8 3 7 42.8 4 9 44.4 4 6 66.7 0 4 4 4 2 0 6 2 5 18
Kansas X. Henry * 32 17 6 12 50.0 4 6 66.6 2 6 33.3 3 4 75.0 2 2 4 0 1 0 2 2 -6 -4
Kansas T. Taylor * 27 8 3 8 37.5 1 6 16.6 2 2 100.0 0 0 1 2 3 3 1 0 2 3 0 8
Kansas M. Morris * 25 10 3 7 42.9 3 6 50.0 0 1 0.0 4 9 44.4 1 2 3 1 2 0 1 5 -9 -10
Kansas C. Aldrich * 24 11 5 9 55.6 5 9 55.5 0 0 1 1 100.0 3 2 5 0 3 1 0 0 -12 -16
Kansas M. Morris 22 6 2 3 66.7 2 3 66.6 0 0 2 2 100.0 1 3 4 0 0 1 1 3 -7 -6
Kansas B. Morningstar 16 0 0 1 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 1 -8 -8
Kansas T. Reed 16 3 1 2 50.0 1 1 100.0 0 1 0.0 1 1 100.0 1 1 2 0 3 0 0 3 -7 -6
Kansas J. Withey 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 12
Kansas T. Robinson 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 12
KU 200 77 27 58 46.6 19 38 50.0 8 20 40.0 15 23 65.2 9 17 26 10 13 2 12 20


S MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 2PA 2PA 2P% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OR DR REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- RR
OSU 200 85 32 53 60.4 22 34 64.7 10 19 52.6 11 17 64.7 7 29 36 16 8 5 16 21
Oklahoma-state O. Muonelo * 38 17 6 13 46.2 4 7 57.1 2 6 33.3 3 8 37.5 0 4 4 3 1 1 1 2 2 -4
Oklahoma-state J. Anderson * 36 27 9 19 47.4 5 13 38.4 4 6 66.7 5 6 83.3 1 7 8 3 2 2 3 2 10 12
Oklahoma-state K. Page * 29 15 5 6 83.3 1 2 50.0 4 4 100.0 1 1 100.0 0 0 0 4 2 0 3 4 9 10
Oklahoma-state F. Gulley * 29 0 0 2 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 2 0.0 0 0 0 6 6 4 2 0 2 2 -7 -22
Oklahoma-state M. Pilgrim * 23 18 8 8 100.0 8 8 100.0 0 0 2 2 100.0 3 3 6 0 1 1 2 4 -8 -24
Oklahoma-state N. Sidorakis 25 0 0 1 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 1 2 12 16
Oklahoma-state M. Moses 17 8 4 4 100.0 4 4 100.0 0 0 0 0 2 5 7 1 0 0 2 4 16 24
Oklahoma-state J. Shaw 3 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 6 4

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Once we missed all those threes to start the game

Then OSU just packed their guys in the middle and dared us to shoot, while mobbing anyone who got the ball down low. During that stretch, if we’re able to knock down any of those wide open threes, who knows what happens. Regardless, I got really tired of the announcers saying that KU was reticent to shoot the three when they needed to – we missed so many at one point I’m sure Self told them to stop chucking em up.
I’d chalk this one up to a juiced homecrowd and a lot of made jumpshots. Thats just why I wouldn’t want to play OSU in the first two rounds, but wouldn’t mind by the Sweet Sixteen when you can’t just ride hot streaks.

by 2.1 seconds left on Feb 28, 2010 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah we are in the game if we shoot average from three

We would have kept pace somewhat, gone into halftime down maybe 8 or so, very manageable. We just haven’t shot the ball for shit from 3 in a long time. X has been good but Sherron’s poor shooting streak is not going away and Morningstar is doing what he did last year (shot well before Big12 play, then he shot 30% in conference play). Those two have to make outside shots to make life easier on our bigs and help the offense as a whole. Oh and it puts points on the scoreboard too which is noice

by Andrew Clark on Mar 1, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

50% agree.

The most important takeaway will be in how Kansas responds on Wednesday in Lawrence and Saturday in Columbia.

Maybe I’m going all “everything is great, aw shucks” again, but if HCBS needs them to lose another one or they play like dog piss in Columbia and lose that one, (we will NOT lose Wednesday – I promise) then so be it. That was just the perfect storm yesterday.

What I’m saying is that other than a couple small things – getting to loose balls and rotating on ball screens (really our only two faults yesterday) – we played pretty well given the environment and what we were up against. We scored 77 points and shot nearly 50% from the field. Most days for Kansas, that will get it done. Just not when the other team is hiiting from a different area code repeatedly.

We will rebound nicely. (both figuratively and literally Wednesday night)

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Feb 28, 2010 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

A loss in Columbia is fine...

as long as it isn’t a blow out in Columbia. Winning Wednesday though is critical.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Feb 28, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Apparently, we just can't beat teams who have orange has a school color

I’m now hoping to hell we don’t play Syracuse in the tournament.

Oh my dear lord...this is RETARDED boss...

by tequilaprophet on Feb 28, 2010 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

Which sucks

because I love the color Orange. In fact, I’m wearing an orange shirt right now. Of course, we didn’t have a problem with burnt orange this year, only the bright orange. Weird.

Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.

by Bensa on Feb 28, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Time to change the ol' sig-a-rooski.

"Not to be cliché or anything, but I’m Jayhawk born and Jayhawk bred and when I die I’ll be Jayhawk dead." - Ovechwin

by Andy Edwards on Feb 28, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Damn. You're right.

Operation 39-1 is a go. Proceed to target.

by Bensa on Feb 28, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

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