Breaking Down KU's First Possession vs Memphis
Editors Note: Warden put this together last week and we plan on doing more things in a similar fashion going forward. I wanted to bump it back to the top of the page since it went up late Friday and perhaps not everyone had the chance to check it out. It's a little more on the strategic side and something that definitely adds to what we're all interested in here, Kansas basketball. - Owen K
From sax solo:
(And is it me, or do we not discuss strategy much on RCT? I don’t hear Bill Self talk about it much after games either, in his very general and careful way of talking about the game.)
He's right, we don't. I'd love to dive into it a little bit, just not sure where to start or what to focus on. So...
After thinking about different ways to bring it up and playing around with some different formats, I thought I'd give it a shot and see where it goes. Going through the entire game isn't going to happen because I actually have a job (sorry, somebody has to think about the kids). But maybe picking out a few plays and sharing is good enough to get the ball rolling? Here's a quick look at what I think could be an interesting discussion starter.
Opening tip of the Memphis game and Kansas gets possession. This is good for one really big reason, it's very likely this was a set play that was called in the locker room and set up in practice. On Tuesday night, it worked to perfection.
Taylor gets the ball to Marcus Morris on the wing with Markieff on the opposite high post. This initial set opens up a lot of possibilities:
- Marcus squares up and shoots.
- Marcus drives to the basket, forcing either Reed's or Markieff's man to help which would open them up.
- Marcus drives to the basket and Memphis doesn't help allowing an open bucket.
- OR what actually happens.
This frame is a little late but Markieff stepped out and set a screen for Taylor to flare along the wing opposite the ball. As Taylor came off the screen, Morningstar cut towards the basket and then rounds toward the top of the key. This action is very important because it forces the man guarding Brady to make a decision. Stay in the paint and be ready to help on a Taylor drive or stick with Brady as he heads toward the perimeter. Morningstar being a pretty good 3 point shooter, adds a little pressure on the guy guarding him. On this play he chooses to follow Brady. Two other things to notice: 1) Markieff's man is probably too tight on him and 2) the guy guarding Reed sees the lane open and realizes he needs to move or Taylor's dunking the ball.
After Taylor beats his man, we see it all develop. The guy guarding Markieff has no chance at stopping Taylor and Reed's man is caught in the middle because he's too far away from the basket in the second frame. From here, Taylor has three great options:
- Score
- Kick it to a Morri who are coming down the lane (likely Marcus as he's on the opposite side and it's an easier angle)
- Pass along the baseline to a wide open Reed for 3. This option has the added benefit of the Morri already in position to crash the offensive boards and Morningstar at the top of key to slow down a Memphis fastbreak.
Taylor chose option 3 and the Jayhawks started the game up 3-0. This same situation occured at least two other times that I remember against Memphis. The coaching staff likely noticed on film that Memphis does a poor job of seeing ball and man, so they took advantage.
Update: Video of play (in Sega Genesis form until I figure out a better way to do it) Hints/Tips are always welcome because this is ugly.
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Awesome
If you want ideas maybe pick a couple of good and bad plays from each game. And you could pick a specific player/area to focus on. Someone like Little or Elijah so we can get a better idea of how they’re really playing. I love reading stuff like this
very cool warden
I for one don’t always realize how much goes on in the plays they run while I’m laying on the couch and critiquing the team
by fizzle406 on Dec 10, 2010 9:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
nice work, warden
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nice analysis
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Dec 10, 2010 10:35 PM CST reply actions
Added "video" so we can see it in full motion.
Really like the idea walshdollar had of picking out a player and isolating a few plays here and there.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
If only I'd gone to basketball camp instead of indoor soccer camp.
I love stuff like this where plays are broken down. In this play though, I have a hard time imagining Marcus pulling a move and driving from the wing. Unfortunately I can imagine TRob trying it. I guess HCBS DID tell them to drive more.
I know just enough about basketball to know I don’t know much about it, so I’m pleased as punch to have other people talking strategy and stuff so that I can appreciate better what our team does out on the floor. Woohoo!
The other day I looked in on Burnt Orange Nation, and the only basketball that was getting talked was about recruiting. They were specifically saying KU was going to be screwed in the future because of our recruiting woes. That may be true to some extent, but I thought that was just too much like what’s exactly wrong with UT basketball: like whoever recruits the best guys wins and nothing else is worth talking about.
If you want some suggestions, ...
Go to the Lawrence Journal World football coverage, and check for Jesse Newell’s weekly post. Each week through the season, he took a play/situation/… and contacted a DII (?) coach to analyze the footage with him. One of the best series going.
Great breakdown Warden
I’d also like to see a breakdown of our inbounds plays under the basket. I feel like we always settle for the lob pass to center court while opposing teams seem to run set plays against us and get a few decent looks every game.
I can think of 2 inbounds plays that I've seen multiple times this year.
I’ll work one of them in on the next one.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
Easy to suggest when I don't have to do the work
- Different plays run out of the same offensive set
- Defensive fundamentals exhibited/not exhibited (help in the lane, guarding pick and roll, even blocking out)
I think more screen shots are helpful, but that’s easy for me to say.
The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. ~ Bertrand Russell
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Dec 11, 2010 3:31 PM CST reply actions
Great Stuff Warden
This play really illustrates the importance of having shooters on the floor. With our guards, mostly Taylor, penetration ability and finishing skills, having Snipers on the floor allows us to force the defense into a pick your poison mentality: help out of drives and leave an open shooter (Reed, Morningstar, Morri) or stay home and hope your teammate can defend one on one.
Shit happens when you win championships
pick your poison
Interesting to read your comment in light of the CSU game.
The announcers commented that Miles had chosen to give the open shot to the bigs in the FT circle. Nice to see Markieff & Mario step up there.
So posting things at 10 pm on a Friday night don't increase page views?
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball...Rock Chalk Talk
::Makes "L" shape with hand and places on forehead::
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 13, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
This is choice.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Player shit
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 13, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Nice work.
I would also like to see more of this kind of thing.
I think a good play to break down
Would be how we create ally-oops in the half court set. I know it involves a big setting up at the post, and then a moving guard get in the middle and set a screen, but seing it broken down with Warden’s expertice would be cool, especially since its a big part of our high/low offense, and offense in general, man this sentance has a lot of commas, don’t ya think?
Shit happens when you win championships
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Another option I’ve seen us run from this setup in the past is for Tyshawn to cut towards Marcus for the handoff/rub screen. If Marcus gets a good screen, it essentially tuns into Tyshawn/Reed/Markieff vs. 2 Memphis defenders. Then its just a question of Ty taking what the defense gives him.
The initial setup to this play is something HCBS has been using his entire career (obviously with many different angles), and something that pro teams use occassionally, as well.
With all X’s and O’s, however, you can’t forget the players themselves. If the Morrii weren’t effective shooters/ball handlers, the options on this setup would be limited, since defenses could simply sag off the big men, preventing any kind of action near the hoop.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Dec 13, 2010 1:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions

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