Big 12 Power Rankings
by Owen on Nov 8, 2010 11:05 AM CST
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Another wild week in the Big 12. Iowa State nearly knocks off the Corn for a second year in a row, Tech beats the once mighty Mizzou in Lubbock, K-State owns Texas and Oklahoma falls to an A&M team that now looks completely different since the benching of preseason offensive player of the year Jerrod Johnson.
What's going on? It's madness in November! College football is shaping up to be as wild as college basketball anymore. Perhaps that bodes well for the future of our Kansas Jayhawks as anymore it seems the gap between the top and the bottom has narrowed.
1. Oklahoma State
How They Fared: 55-28 win over Baylor
Week Eleven: Texas
Previous Ranking #5
I should have stuck with my instincts. Early in the year I had the Cowboys at or near the top and minus a loss to the Corn they didn't do anything to deserve the drop. What they did do is fly under the radar and emerge at the top in complete control of their own destiny. Oklahoma State handled a good Baylor team on Saturday and now sit just four games away from making T. Boone Pickens one happy man. Who says money can't buy you happiness?
2. Nebraska
How They Fared: 31-30 win over Iowa State
Week Eleven: Kansas
Previous Ranking #2
Somebody has to be #2. Right now the Huskers have the best resume, but they sure don't feel like the same team they were just a few weeks ago. A bit of a quarterback shuffle, and some problems in Ames might raise further concern in Lincoln. What's scary to think is that the only thing standing between the Corn and what would be National Title talk is a loss to Texas. The same Texas that EVERYONE is beating this year. The same Texas that Nebraska fans had built up as their Superbowl this season. Bet somebody wishes they had a mulligan on that one.
3. Texas A&M
How They Fared: 33-19 win over Oklahoma
Week Eleven: Baylor
Previous Ranking #8
#3 might have been the toughest pick this week. Oklahoma lost, Mizzou lost, Baylor lost, Kansas State beat Texas but is that enough? The answer is no. Texas A&M made a quarterback change a few weeks back and since that move they've looked much better offensively. A three game win streak after a four game skid and they're back in the top half of the South. This week they get a chance to jump up another notch as they take on Baylor and then they'll need some help but Oklahoma State is in view.
4. Baylor
How They Fared: 55-28 loss to Oklahoma State
Week Eleven: Texas A&M
Previous Ranking #4
It's crazy to think that Baylor was one game away from controlling their own destiny. Art Briles definitely seems to have the program on track. Obviously a big part of that is a down Big 12 South, but he didn't make the schedule and he's won 7 games by beating the team in front of them. Two more very tough tests remain. Win one and Baylor will be sitting at 8 wins, a winning conference record and at least a pair of victories over top 25 opponents.
5. Kansas State
How They Fared: 39-14 win over Texas
Week Eleven: Mizzou
Previous Ranking #7
Kansas State owns Texas winning their last three games against the Longhorns. Can ANYONE else say that? Beyond that Bill Snyder owns Missouri and this week the Wildcats take a trip to Columbia for a matchup against a team reeling after a tough loss in Lubbock. Two weeks ago Kansas State looked like they could be headed toward a four game skid in the conference. After snagging a solid win against Texas, they could very well be the favorite against the Tigers.
6. Missouri
How They Fared: 24-17 loss to Texas Tech
Week Eleven: Kansas State
Previous Ranking #3
I believe the Tigers are better than this, but in what has become classic Gary Pinkel fashion a Tiger team sitting on the brink of greatness can't get over the hump and trips on the way back down. The Tigers let a loss in Lincoln turn into two in Lubbock this past Saturday. Now a well coached and tricky Kansas State Wildcat team comes to Columbia looking to take the skid to three.
7. Oklahoma
How They Fared: 33-19 loss to Texas A&M
Week Eleven: Texas Tech
Previous Ranking #1
Oklahoma now sits at fourth in the Big 12 South. There wins in the Big 12 are over Iowa State, Colorado and Texas. Not that impressive of a list. With games against Baylor, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State remaining the Sooners could redeem themselves a bit, but is anyone sure they will?
8. Iowa State
How They Fared: 31-30 loss to Nebraska
Week Eleven: Colorado
Previous Ranking #6
Iowa State was one throw away from reaching bowl eligibility for the second year in a row. One throw away from beating Nebraska in back to back years to close out the series. Problem was the holder decided to throw it like a girl and Nebraska picked of a surprise 2 point conversion to clinch the win. I still have a lot of respect for the job Paul Rhoades has done. Close out the season with a win or two and head to a bowl. That would be a nice deal for the Cyclones.
9. Texas Tech
How They Fared: 24-17 win over Mizzou
Week Eleven: Oklahoma
Previous Ranking #10
Texas Tech beat Mizzou, Mizzou beat Oklahoma. So Tech should beat Oklahoma right? A win get's them to bowl eligibility and even without a win over the Sooners that should be easy with games against Weber State and SMU still on the schedule.
10. Texas
How They Fared: 39-14 loss to Kansas State
Week Eleven: Oklahoma State
Previous Ranking #9
Wow, just wow. Who would have ever thought? Texas sits in last place in the South. Last place despite consistently landing more talent in the first month of recruiting than some teams manage in the entire calendar year. Right now with games against Oklahoma State, Florida Atlantic and Texas A&M remaining, the Longhorns will need an upset to go bowling.
11. Kansas
How They Fared: 52-45 win over Colorado
Week Eleven: Nebraska
Previous Ranking #12
YES!!! A comeback to remember and what it does is definitively say that Colorado is the worst team in the conference. I think. Either way Kansas gets out of the basement and into the #11 spot for this weeks power rankings. Before I said they'd have to win two in a row for me to move them up, but when you beat the #11 team in the rankings, it has to happen.
12. Colorado
How They Fared: 52-45 loss to Kansas
Week Eleven: Iowa State
Previous Ranking#11
How does one recover from a game like that? Go play intramurals brother, go play intramurals.
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Not last!!!!!!!!!
At the bar in Lawrence saturday night, they showed the Big12 North standings and everyone cheered (since were actually ahead of someone). Made me laugh. Actually thats the last thing I remember from Saturday night…
Shit happens when you win championships
Oh and
“Win won and Baylor will be sitting at 8 wins”
One…. COME ON MAN!
Shit happens when you win championships
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Nov 8, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
there's just so much damn winning going on....
for us these days that I had win, won, winner, winning-est etc on the mind. I fixed it Grammar man.
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Can't wait to see KSU vs. Mizzou
Normally given whats happened the last two weeks I’d expect Mizzou to come out and run train on the cats…. but
KState has a much better coach
Something just seems missing with the Tigers lately
on the other hand:
Texas is KSU’s bitch, the Cats always beat them and play out of this world so I’m not sure what to think. Its kind of like Colorado, even when KU football isn’t very good we always beat them at home. Always.
The game is in Columbia…for whatever that is worth
I don’t see KSU scoring much on MU’s defense (played well against Tech, anytime you hold the Raiders to 24 thats pretty good. Tigers offense cost them that game).
On the other hand… just kidding.
Shit happens when you win championships
i don't think KSU has much of a chance
Last year K-State came out of nowhere and hung about 65 on Texas A&M, and I think the win over Texas was just this year’s version. K-State has a slow secondary and I think MU will return to form and win by double digits.
Is there any way they could both lose?
by PenguinHawk on Nov 8, 2010 11:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't see it happening myself
I just don’t think our defense is good enough. Even their best games haven’t been that great, we still gave up 412 yards to Texas.
Forward into Battle
by ChrisP Wildcat on Nov 9, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand
your logic in putting Nebraska at #2, behind Oklahoma State. Nebraska’s game against them was 51-34 with 1:20 left before a pointless OkSt TD- at their house. We won at Iowa State with our 3rd (THIRD) string quarterback who likely had a concussion; without a starting corner opposite Prince Amukamara.
While I am a self professed ‘homer’ I can’t wrap my mind around Nebraska beating 3 out of the 4 other ranked teams in the B12 and getting placed #2 in your Power Ranking.
BTW, that Texas loss still gives me nightmares. Nebraska gave that game away and potentially gave the National Championship away with it.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Nov 8, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions
Because if Iowa State just kicks their extra point on Saturday OR they have a holder
that can actually throw a football, Nebraska loses to Iowa State.
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and
OSU doesn’t have the sloppy, just-barely wins over bad teams (SDSU, Iowa State) or a bad loss (Texas) or an upcoming loss to a 3-6 team (Kansas?).
I would probably put NU at #1 but I think #2 can be justified
by PenguinHawk on Nov 8, 2010 11:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You're kidding, right
The had a sloppy, just barely win over Troy; they had a sloppy, just barely win over A&M also.
Nebraska beat SDSU by 14 points and almost shut them out. Hardly a just-barely win.
In addition, OSU has trailed at the half in most of their games.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Nov 8, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
look...
I said I would have ranked NU above them. That being said…
Troy > South Dakota State
Texas A&M > Iowa State.
A 14 point win and near shutout means very little against a 1-AA team (trust me, we know bad performances against 1-AA teams). OSU’s win over aTm was sloppy, yes, but still a win over a team that is now ranked. And you can’t deny that OSU’s loss (to you guys) was a better loss than yours (to a team that was just manhandled by K-State)
by PenguinHawk on Nov 8, 2010 1:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rebuttal
you can’t deny that OSU’s loss (to you guys) was a better loss than yours (to a team that was just manhandled by K-State)
I sure cant…
Troy > South Dakota State
Texas A&M > Iowa State.
Not necessarily. Have you seen the Sun Belt (Troy) teams play? And A&M > ISU, depends on what day, they’re both hot and cold.
And what about them trailing at the half in mot of their games? What do you make of that? Toying with the opponent? ;)
by HuskerINtheArmy on Nov 8, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Rebutting the rebuttal
Troy has had multiple teams in bowl games over the years, and has put several players in the NFL, so I really don’t think you can say South Dakota State (4-5 in 1-AA) is on the same level. Yes, ISU and aTm are both up and down, but having watched both, A&M has better athletes on the field so I give them the edge there. But this all started with me playing devil’s advocate and coming up with justification for NU at #2. In the end, I think Nebraska is the best team in the conference (at least with an injured Martinez).
it's a power ranking so...
don’t look for logic. Just go with how you felt each team showed week to week. No other way to explain A&M’s rise, and no other way to explain Nebraska’s drop.
Yes if I did this like an AP poll then Nebraska won so they just file in behind the teams that lost and they would be number one. But since it’s not…since it’s a combination of things and a heavy emphasis place on this weeks performance, Nebraska remains where they are while Oklahoma State jumps.
Besides, I’m now convinced that T. Boone Pickens let you win to set up extra motivation for the rematch in the championship game. I kid, I kid.
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Honestly
this is about what I expected out of Nebraska since Martinez has been out and it’s a big part of why I thought they were insanely overhyped at the beginning of the year.
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Best answer
the rest are just seem to have a highly biased sentiment.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Nov 8, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
on the internet?, never
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 8, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Compared to your completely unbiased sentiment?
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by Warden11 on Nov 8, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Easy
The bugeaters are the most nowledgeable, unbiased fans in all of college football. Just ask Tom Osbourne.
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
Slow down Turbo
I am a self professed ‘homer’
Who said my sentiment was unbiased? I sure didn’t.
I’m not an anti-Jayhawk guy. I grew up in Hutchinson, Kansas and Omaha. Actually graduating in Hutch. I still have a soft spot for the Wildcats and Jayhawks- as long as they’re not playing Nebraska. You’ve got a great coach know, this team will turn around. Fortunately for us, we won’t be around when it happens (assuming it didn’t happen in the fourth quarter last week).
So please, don’t take my presence on this board as trolling.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Nov 8, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
I want to rec this just for "slow down turbo"
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yeah I have to admit...
I liked the slow down turbo line myself.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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Never did think you were trolling or anti-Jayhawk. Please don't think I'm arguing just because you're a Cornhusker fan first.
but with a name like “HuskerINtheArmy”, I’m assuming you’re pro-Nebraska. Is that a safe one to make? My comments are highly biased but it’s the bias that comes from watching Nebraska struggle against ISU. It’s from seeing Nebraska last year without Martinez, which is where their offense is now. If Martinez is 100% healthy, I’ll say they should be #1.
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Well,
I can’t wrap my mind around Nebraska beating 3 out of the 4 other ranked teams in the B12 and getting placed #2 in your Power Ranking.
I think you answered your own question with this:
that Texas loss still gives me nightmares
But I do think Brasky is the best team in the conference right now. Unfortunately, this conference is shit right now.
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Nebraska
can’t expect to have beaten all four when they haven’t played all four.
This conference has 5 ranked teams, the only conference with more is the over-hyped SEC. I wouldn’t exactly call it shit. The ACC, Big East, Sun Belt- those are shit.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Nov 8, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'll give you that the ACC, Big East, and other irrelevant conferences are worse
I just think college football as a whole is down this year.
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Agreed..
when 2 non-AQ teams are undefeated and in the Top 4, you know it’s a down year. When the media has nothing better than to put 5 out of 6 teams in a division from the SEC West(gag) into the T25, you know it’s a down year.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Nov 8, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd for the Intramurals bit
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 8, 2010 1:12 PM CST reply actions
That cartoon is great.
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Completely OT but
Owen can we get an updated on Jayhawks in the pros?
Friday night ESPN 2 had the Calagary/Winnepeg game one. Jon Cornish looked awesome in that game during the 30 minutes I watched. They said something about him being “all Canada” whatever that means.
I also watched the last 2 minutes of the Chargers/Texans game hoping to see a glimpse of Stuckey and/or Holt. I saw neither. Are those dudes getting any pt?
build a damn football program, beat some ass, and get on tv more.
Aqib
Had two picks last week and brought one back for six. Don’t know about the other guys though
by PenguinHawk on Nov 8, 2010 1:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
ahem
Winnipeg.
/go Jets
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by fetch9 on Nov 8, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah they look pretty good this year
unfortunately you have to cheer for that scumbag TJ Oshie.
I have fully embraced the Pens as my team, but it’s just not the same as supporting the hometown Jets. sigh.
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I love me some Oshie -
Pound for pound, I don’t think many players in the league are stronger than he is. The guy’s a freak. He knows how to hit but I don’t view him as a cheap shot artist. The hit this weekend on Krejci was legit. Krejci had his head down, Oshie skated through him, shoulder to shoulder. Where the dude got hurt was planting his head into the dasher. Had that hit happened on open ice, Krejci would have been fine.
As far as embracing the pens, I feel you. I started out as a Northstars fan. When they moved a year after being in the finals it broke my heart. It took me until college to find a new NHL team. Luckily I had the IHL Blades to get me through. The 90’s were a great time for KC hockey fans…
Is that seat getting a little warm, Mr. Gill?
Oh, and this isn't THE hit, but it's still pretty sweet...
Is that seat getting a little warm, Mr. Gill?
I just dont like him
cause we went to college together and I had the “pleasure” of meeting him a few times. Total dbag.
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Ah, well I guess that's different...
if it’s on a personal level, I’ve got not much to say. Can’t say I’ve met him…
Is that seat getting a little warm, Mr. Gill?
Owen, I appreciate the props, but if KSU is the favorite over Mizzou, I'm betting on Mizzou
Heavily. UT is miserable right now but I don’t think KSU wins that game (well, so easily) without being +5 in TOs).
I know the TiTies are mediocre or poor, but Mizzou is going to eat this KSU defense alive. The Tiggers are going to be angry and aching to prove something after a pair of flops. Combing the KSU D and the fact that KSU will struggle to move the ball again that Mizzou D (particularly if Klein starts again at QB), I predict a Mizzou walk. 45 – 13 sounds about right to me.
(And yes, I AM a KSU fan and alumn and a graduate student, but Mizzou is going to demolish this crew and no number of purple shirts will disguise that fact from me.)
Fire Chris Cosh!
look...
I’m sold on two things with Iowa State and Kansas State.
A coach who seems to get players to play above where they should.
And a coach that puts his team in a position to win.
I probably give both of those teams too much credit at times, but last year Bill Snyder turned me into a believer after taking a team that most considered dead in the water and taking them to a .500 record and hell a shot at winning the North as late as November.
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It's also hard, b/c as Sean T says, Mizzou matches up really well against KSU
Against a common opponent, maybe KSU can get the nod, but in head-to-head it gets blurry.
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Nov 8, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
definitely blurry...
just at this moment, this morning…I like K-State…that will probably change.
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Always nice to hear good things from a rival school's fan
And you’re right about the coaching advantage KSU has over MU.
Here’s hoping KU can keep the good juju going and beat the Nubs in Lincoln. Right now, I’d take KU over UT, so that’s possible, right?
Fire Chris Cosh!
Even though we're all thrilled about the comeback on Saturday,
it was against Colorado (who has been terrible on the road) after we found ourselves down that many points to begin with.
Glad I came, just wish I hadn't stayed so long.
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